Does anyone know if it is possible to run a group buy on lower receivers? or if it's something only an FFL can do?

The cheapest lower I found was at OGC Tactical (Spike's Tactical Lower) for ~$119. There are quite a few manufacturers out there that can produce them cheaper but they are not "tactical" enough for OGC 

Anyway, if it's possible would anyone know how to run one?

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/06/us/06guns.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=nonresidents%20utah&st=cse
 
Essentially, the Utah CC permit is recognized in 32 states, including states that have no concealed carry permitting process of their own.  People travel specifically to Utah or to instructors registered to Utah to get their CC permits because it is so widely recognized.   We've been trying to get our own CC passed but it always gets shot down before it even makes it out of the gate.  I'm thinking maybe our approach has been too direct; the change from a very anti-gun climate to CC in Hawaii is just too much of a drastic change for lawmakers and the public. If we took a more round about approach, by getting Hawaii to recognize another state's CC permit might be a heck of a lot easier than trying to introduce CC to Hawaii outright-- especially since 32 other states already recognize the Utah permit.  It would be like adding a detour along the way so the lawmakers and public can get "comfortable" with concealed carry without actually having the fuss and controversy of true concealed carry in the state.  Those of us (which is probably all of us) looking to get CC, would now have a viable option to have a legal CC permit in Hawaii.  It would also be a valuable stepping stone to get our own in-state CC in the near future.

What are your thoughts on this? 

 

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James Roe, a 64-year-old computer consultant from rural Pennsylvania, spent a recent Saturday in a Pittsburgh suburb learning about riflings, hangfires and powder charges. The gun safety class was for people seeking a concealed-firearm permit in Utah, some 1,500 miles away. Never mind that Mr. Roe has not been to Utah in 20 years and has no plans to visit anytime soon.


   Like thousands of other gun owners who will most likely never set foot in Utah, Mr. Roe wants a permit there for one reason: It allows him to carry his semiautomatic .45-caliber pistol in 32 other states that recognize or have formal reciprocity with Utah’s gun regulations.
“I think that all states should be as broad based with reciprocity and as careful as the state of Utah is,” said Mr. Roe, who wants the option of taking his handgun with him when he visits his son in Ohio, both for protection and for target practice. (Ohio does not honor Pennsylvania’s firearm permit.)
With the Supreme Court ruling last week that the Second Amendment’s guarantee of an individual’s right to bear arms applies to state and local laws, Utah is a popular player in Americans’ efforts to legally obtain firearms. The state is issuing what has become the permit of choice for many gun owners.
Fifteen years after the Utah Legislature loosened rules on concealed firearm permits by waiving residency and other requirements, the state is increasingly attracting firearm owners from throughout the country. Nearly half of the 241,811 permits granted by the state are now held by nonresidents, according to the Utah Bureau of Criminal Identification, which administers the permits.
In 2004, Utah received about 8,000 applications for the permits. Last year, 73,925 applications were submitted — with nearly 60 percent coming from nonresidents.
Laws for carrying concealed firearms vary widely by state, as do issuing standards for permits. New York, New Jersey and Connecticut do not honor other states’ permits. Some states, like Florida, allow nonresidents to qualify for permits. Utah stands out because its permit is relatively inexpensive and is broadly accepted, and the requisite safety class can be taken anywhere.
By passing the class and the background check, and paying a $65.25 fee, the applicant receives what many consider to be the most prized gun permit in the country. Permits are good for five years and cost $10 to renew.
Some Second Amendment proponents argue that people with permits are more likely to be law abiding because they have undergone at least some form of background check.
“The spirit of self-defense should not stop at a state’s border,” said Clark Aposhian, a Utah gun lobbyist who sits on the state’s Concealed Firearm Review Board, which helps regulate the permitting process. “Not once has there been a pattern of problems with Utah permit holders in other states.”
But Utah’s permit program has its critics. Peter Hamm, a spokesman for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, asserted that Utah’s policy was dangerous because many states were lax in submitting felony and mental health records to the federal database used for background checks.
“I think it’s absolutely shameful and ludicrously irresponsible to say that anybody anywhere who wants one of our concealed-carry permits, and thus will be able to carry legally in dozens of states, can just log on to our Web site and pay 60 bucks and that’s all she wrote,” Mr. Hamm said.
As more people have turned to Utah for permits, the demand for instructors who teach Utah’s gun safety class in other states has increased. Of the 1,097 instructors certified by Utah, 706 are in other states. Advertisements for classes held throughout the country appear widely on the Internet.
Another source of contention is that the class does not require any actual shooting. One could conceivably obtain a Utah permit without ever having fired a gun. Nevada and New Mexico recently stopped honoring Utah permits because the class does not meet its live-fire requirements.
“Residents of other states should be aware that people who have a Utah concealed-weapon permit may not have actually fired a weapon,” said Dee Rowland, chairwoman of the Gun Violence Prevention Center of Utah. “I think that would be quite shocking to members of the public.”
Supporters of Utah’s policy counter that the state’s 50-page curriculum on gun safety, and background checks that are updated every 24 hours, ensure that the system is safe.
“We teach passive defense in Utah,” said State Representative Curtis Oda, a Republican from Clearfield.
“We have no idea what could have happened had there been an armed defender at Columbine and Virginia Tech,” Mr. Oda said, “but we know with absolute certainty what happens when there’s not.”

Welcome everyone.  Just curious to the new guys, how did you find the site?

Id like to get a permit to own a handgun. I have a friend who wants to get rid of his and id like to purchase it. Ive been told there is a waiver or exemption for military so we dont have to pay and attend the class(s?) to get the permit. Does someone, anyone, know where and what forms i need for this? I saw a paper for Army and its supposed to be signed by OIC so im looking for something similiar to that. I have medal for markesmanship with 9mm if that is worth anything? Anyone with advice or even point me in right direction, thanks in advnace!!
 
Also if i decide to just do the class for the permit (handgun) is it only one class, or do i need to do hunters course before taking hangun course? Also is there somewhere i can pay cheaper if i dont want credit at the store? Like i said im buying from a friend so I saw one club offerring the class at $200 but half of that goes toward 100 dollar credit at store.