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changemyoil66

Maxim50
« on: September 19, 2017, 08:25:20 AM »
https://www.store.silencerco.com/products/maxim-50?variant=37950952529

Claims to be 50 state legal.  But we know the Shockwave was deemed illegal by HPD, but legal on the Big Island. So...
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jaynick

Re: Maxim50
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2017, 08:45:23 AM »
Yea i wouldnt want to be the first to pay for it in full then try to register it.
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changemyoil66

Re: Maxim50
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2017, 08:56:00 AM »
Quote from: jaynick on September 19, 2017, 08:45:23 AM
Yea i wouldnt want to be the first to pay for it in full then try to register it.

What would happen if I take it to HPD and they deem it illegal like the shockwave?  Jail time, confiscation?
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robtmc

Re: Maxim50
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2017, 09:31:34 AM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on September 19, 2017, 08:25:20 AM
Claims to be 50 state legal.  But we know the Shockwave was deemed illegal by HPD, but legal on the Big Island. So...
Must have missed this.  Got a link i can read up on?
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changemyoil66

Re: Maxim50
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2017, 09:36:31 AM »
Quote from: robtmc on September 19, 2017, 09:31:34 AM
Must have missed this.  Got a link i can read up on?

It was posted here a few months ago. 

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=23385.msg209914#msg209914
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rklapp

Re: Maxim50
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2017, 11:34:14 AM »
Looks like fun.

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zippz

Re: Maxim50
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2017, 04:00:22 PM »
Okay I'm not seeing how this is legal in Hawaii.  Might be legal under federal laws, but it still looks illegal under Hawaii state law as Hawaii has no definition of "antique firearm".
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rklapp

Re: Maxim50
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2017, 04:04:23 PM »
AFAIK, there's no exemption for silencers if the unit is welded to the barrel. Maybe in Kentucky...
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mill8316

Re: Maxim50
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2017, 06:14:15 PM »
Quote from: zippz on September 19, 2017, 04:00:22 PM
Okay I'm not seeing how this is legal in Hawaii.  Might be legal under federal laws, but it still looks illegal under Hawaii state law as Hawaii has no definition of "antique firearm".

If they are designed to be fired using loose black powder i.e. Muzzle loader. They do not require registration.
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London808

Re: Maxim50
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2017, 06:56:10 PM »
Quote from: mill8316 on September 19, 2017, 06:14:15 PM
If they are designed to be fired using loose black powder i.e. Muzzle loader. They do not require registration.

Still illegal in Hawaii,

Silencers are illegal, A muzzle loader is still a firearm in Hawaii and all laws apply except registration.
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changemyoil66

Re: Maxim50
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2017, 09:48:23 AM »
Quote from: London808 on September 19, 2017, 06:56:10 PM
Still illegal in Hawaii,

Silencers are illegal, A muzzle loader is still a firearm in Hawaii and all laws apply except registration.

That's what I told SilencerCo.
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rklapp

Re: Maxim50
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2017, 10:27:02 AM »
Quote from: London808 on September 19, 2017, 06:56:10 PM
Still illegal in Hawaii,
Silencers are illegal, A muzzle loader is still a firearm in Hawaii and all laws apply except registration.
So don't have to bring the muzzle loader into HPD for registration. My question is what would HPD do if they observed the rifle in the home, range, or out hunting? Would they care? Would they only confiscate? Would it be a felony conviction? Maybe but who would try it?
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changemyoil66

Re: Maxim50
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2017, 10:30:20 AM »
Quote from: rklapp on September 20, 2017, 10:27:02 AM
So don't have to bring the muzzle loader into HPD for registration. My question is what would HPD do if they observed the rifle in the home, range, or out hunting? Would they care? Would they only confiscate? Would it be a felony conviction? Maybe but who would try it?

I emailed SilencerCo and told them to read HRS134-8 and call the AG and HPD to confirm in writing since they advertise "50 state legal".  I also told them the issues with the Shockwave.
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ren

Re: Maxim50
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2017, 10:31:49 AM »
Still loud. I was watching a movie and it had a silencer which was quieter than that.
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Re: Maxim50
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2017, 11:10:14 AM »
It's not a silencer it's a smoke hider... it's a smoke reducer
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changemyoil66

Re: Maxim50
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2017, 12:30:15 PM »
Quote from: dirtylickins on September 20, 2017, 11:10:14 AM
It's not a silencer it's a smoke hider... it's a smoke reducer

You mean it identifies as a smoke reducer.
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rklapp

Re: Maxim50
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2017, 12:39:26 PM »
Quote from: dirtylickins on September 20, 2017, 11:10:14 AM
It's not a silencer it's a smoke hider... it's a smoke reducer
A valid point in that HRS does not define "deadening or muffling". Does attempt to deaden or muffle count as a class C felony for the owner?

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0008.htm
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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2017, 01:28:15 PM »
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Re: Maxim50
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2017, 01:29:36 PM »
But they say...
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rklapp

Re: Maxim50
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2017, 04:36:38 PM »
"Hawaii is good to go"?
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