Young v. State of Hawaii (Read 126239 times)

michaelkih

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #180 on: July 29, 2018, 11:19:27 PM »
Does this smake all the people who already just carry guns on them regardless of the laws legal now?  haha

eyeeatingfish

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #181 on: July 30, 2018, 09:58:40 PM »
Does this smake all the people who already just carry guns on them regardless of the laws legal now?  haha

I don't know ow how those technicalities work but I sure won't be the first one to try!

wolfwood

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #182 on: July 31, 2018, 04:52:19 PM »
they filed a motion to extend time
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zippz

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #183 on: July 31, 2018, 05:18:08 PM »
Perhaps they need more time to find a better attorney.

Hahahahaha I knew it.
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illmatic37

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #184 on: July 31, 2018, 06:16:24 PM »
they filed a motion to extend time

So they're asking for 45 more days, until 9/15? If that motion gets granted, what does that mean exactly?
The Hawaii court has to rehear the case by 9/15? Sorry, not trying to be ignorant, but legal jargon and procedure confuses me. 
Lol, trying to not get my hopes up but at the same time I'd like to know what's happening, what's ahead, timeframes ( hopefully not another 6 years), etc.

wolfwood

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #185 on: July 31, 2018, 06:53:27 PM »
So they're asking for 45 more days, until 9/15? If that motion gets granted, what does that mean exactly?
The Hawaii court has to rehear the case by 9/15? Sorry, not trying to be ignorant, but legal jargon and procedure confuses me. 
Lol, trying to not get my hopes up but at the same time I'd like to know what's happening, what's ahead, timeframes ( hopefully not another 6 years), etc.

County is asking until Sept 15 to file a new brief asking the full court to rehear the case
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zippz

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #186 on: July 31, 2018, 09:17:27 PM »
2a activism meeting on August 18th.  Learn how you can help this case.

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=31972.0
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zippz

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #187 on: August 02, 2018, 07:46:50 AM »
More derp from our judges.  They assume the NRA is behind this case because the attorneys are from the mainland.  They dont know the attorney is originally from Hawaii and the NRA ignored the Young case.

Hawaii’s limits on open carry of guns won’t change soon, former justice says

....“It looks to me like an NRA (National Rifle Association) project,” he said. “I don’t know if it is or isn’t,” but he noted the lawyers representing plaintiffs in this and another pending case before the 9th Circuit Court regarding civilians carrying Tasers are from the mainland.

....“As a judge I was a great fan of our gun control laws,” he said. “I don’t want to see Tombstone, Arizona, and Dodge City, Kansas, under Wyatt Earp anymore, but that’s the way it is in a lot of states. Ultimately the U.S. Supreme Court will tell us.”


http://www.staradvertiser.com/2018/08/02/hawaii-news/hawaiis-limits-on-open-carry-of-guns-wont-change-soon-former-justice-says/?HSA=a2338a946ec4e95586ef10a1e5e0e55908b896ab
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2ahavvaii

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #188 on: August 02, 2018, 07:53:25 AM »
As a judge, his job is to make rulings on what is constitutionally right, not make laws based on his personal feelings.

drck1000

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #189 on: August 02, 2018, 08:11:30 AM »
What difference does it make it if it's an "NRA Project" or not.  Sounds like ignorance at first glace, but I'm betting it's getting the NRA name out there to mobilize those who are rabidly anti-NRA, anti-Trump, etc. 

wolfwood

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #190 on: August 02, 2018, 01:08:07 PM »
the court granted a sept 14 extension

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robtmc

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #191 on: August 02, 2018, 07:36:20 PM »
As a judge, his job is to make rulings on what is constitutionally right, not make laws based on his personal feelings.
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SOLEsource684

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #192 on: August 04, 2018, 03:19:23 AM »
So there going to request an En Banc hearing? So possibly 2+ more years.  :shaka:

RSN172

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #193 on: August 04, 2018, 03:51:09 AM »
I stand by my prediction stated earlier, 3 to 7 years.

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GlockNewb

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #195 on: August 08, 2018, 05:32:58 PM »
Wow, got coverage by The Gun Collective

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Wake27

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #196 on: August 11, 2018, 07:58:43 AM »
Another good video:

wolfwood

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #197 on: August 15, 2018, 07:05:44 PM »
new free beacon article
"George is a good man," he said. "The federal court system isn't just for big businesses. It should be for everyone. I feel strongly he at least needed to be allowed to be heard, especially over something like the Second Amendment. You know, he's complaining about his constitutional rights, and they're not even letting him show up."
https://freebeacon.com/politics/meet-native-hawaiian-army-veteran-just-won-major-gun-carry-case/
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punaperson

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #198 on: August 21, 2018, 06:49:32 AM »
Charles Nichols 8-minute podcast on Young v Hawaii, including how it has been binding precedent since the day it was published and still no attorney has filed for a TRO/Preliminary Injunction that would force the filed-against attorneys general of any state in the Ninth Circuit to conform to the open carry requirement of the decision.

http://blog.californiarighttocarry.org/?page_id=8372

I've written SAF, NRA, and GOA asking why they have not filed such actions. Only got a response from SAF, which hinted, after first wrongly claiming that Young has been appealed en banc, that they have some "double secret probation" strategy in the works. Sure they do. Let me guess. Amicus brief? They won't tell me. Since all those "gun rights organizations" oppose open carry (see their actual filings and oral arguments in Peruta and Richards), maybe they'll file an amicus for the defense?

punaperson

Re: Young v. State of Hawaii
« Reply #199 on: August 23, 2018, 06:42:50 AM »
Charles Nichols podcast #2, almost 16 minutes focusing again on Young v Hawaii with detailed consideration of the possibilities regarding en banc petition. Yeah, 16 minutes. Only for weed dwellers and revelers (the "legal details", not "cannabis"  ;)). But makes clear why the petition for en banc is not a "done deal", as some of the possible negative outcomes for the appellees (state and county, et al) are outlined. Also mentioned that there are four other similar cases in other circuits where things actually get done in a timely manner that could easily get to SCOTUS before Young (and thus before Nichols) which would stay Young/Nichols pending the SCOTUS decision in one of those cases (were any of them granted cert of course).