New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely (Read 7313 times)

changemyoil66

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2023, 12:30:45 PM »
Of course it matters how people would look at it. Your response betrays how subjectively you are looking at it, "strike for the right reason" as if the truth of what happened is so plain and obvious.

We aren't talking about a strike for pay/benefits, we are talking about a strike to sway the justice system. Swoosh!
Nice try whataboutism and redirecting. Hahahhahahahha

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changemyoil66

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2023, 12:31:25 PM »
I caught you in your own strawman and now you want to cover your retreat with your clever new catch phrase. Okay.  :shaka:
Hahhhhahhaa seeing things that arent there in order to redirect. Thanks for playing.

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changemyoil66

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2023, 12:49:36 PM »
I caught you in your own strawman and now you want to cover your retreat with your clever new catch phrase. Okay.  :shaka:
Btw, u had so many bad opinions that i dont got the time to show how bad each one is. Dont got time for games at the moment.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2023, 10:35:30 PM »
Btw, u had so many bad opinions that i dont got the time to show how bad each one is. Dont got time for games at the moment.

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changemyoil66

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2023, 10:38:20 PM »
Don't got time for games or just don't like losing?
Re-read the post and u will have ur amswer. Maybe urgent care would be a good decision.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2023, 10:49:14 PM »
Re-read the post and u will have ur amswer. Maybe urgent care would be a good decision.

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changemyoil66

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2023, 07:19:38 AM »
Me: Doctor doctor, help me, CMO diagnosed me with bad opinions. What ever shall I do?

Dr: You'll be fine. CMO is teasing you because he doesn't have a rebuttal
Eef: doctor, i like to refuse logical evidence or provide logical evidence when called out. And i think so highly of myself that a non supportive/off topic reply means im right. The last guy who took the time to be somewhat nice to me stopped and is hurting my feelings.

Doc: sounds like ur an a....h.... whos bored. U should re-evaluate ur hobby.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2023, 10:05:05 PM »
Eef: doctor, i like to refuse logical evidence or provide logical evidence when called out. And i think so highly of myself that a non supportive/off topic reply means im right. The last guy who took the time to be somewhat nice to me stopped and is hurting my feelings.

Doc: sounds like ur an a....h.... whos bored. U should re-evaluate ur hobby.

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We appear to have the same hobby....

What logical evidence? You just claimed the crowd was hostile, I showed you how they weren't hostile but you ignored that. I am very pro-cop and even I can recognize the failure of the asian officer, I don't know why you can't, especially considering you were very critical of cops in other issues.

changemyoil66

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2023, 05:41:25 AM »
We appear to have the same hobby....

What logical evidence? You just claimed the crowd was hostile, I showed you how they weren't hostile but you ignored that. I am very pro-cop and even I can recognize the failure of the asian officer, I don't know why you can't, especially considering you were very critical of cops in other issues.
WAtCh dA vIDs.

Wow, now u brining in other issues and cops. Goal post moving again.

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eyeeatingfish

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2023, 10:44:44 PM »
WAtCh dA vIDs.

Wow, now u brining in other issues and cops. Goal post moving again.

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I watched the videos of Floyd's detention multiple times from multiple angles. Thats why I know you are wrong.

Connect four

Flapp_Jackson

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2023, 12:10:48 AM »
FBI ALTERED George Floyd Autopsy Report
Claims Documentary
To Implicate Derek Chauvin In SHAM TRIAL

"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

eyeeatingfish

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2023, 02:26:37 AM »
FBI ALTERED George Floyd Autopsy Report
Claims Documentary
To Implicate Derek Chauvin In SHAM TRIAL



I think he hits the nail on the head.  It would be silly to ignore that there is a practical take on this that would lead some to the belief that it was necessary to find Chauvin guilty in order to avoid a greater harm of large scale riots. For some, sending Chauvin, a man not guilty of murder, but not innocent of wrongdoing either, to jail would be worth it if it meant saving dozens or even hundreds of lives and likely billions of dollars. This is a very utilitarian solution to the problem.

QUIETShooter

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2023, 06:48:10 AM »
Beginning to look like Chauvin and his fellow officers were sacrificed.

If I was them I would go down swinging.

Funny thing is, they were pretty calm and collective about it.  I would be livid.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

changemyoil66

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2023, 08:00:34 AM »
I watched the videos of Floyd's detention multiple times from multiple angles. Thats why I know you are wrong.

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changemyoil66

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2023, 08:03:16 AM »
I think he hits the nail on the head.  It would be silly to ignore that there is a practical take on this that would lead some to the belief that it was necessary to find Chauvin guilty in order to avoid a greater harm of large scale riots. For some, sending Chauvin, a man not guilty of murder, but not innocent of wrongdoing either, to jail would be worth it if it meant saving dozens or even hundreds of lives and likely billions of dollars. This is a very utilitarian solution to the problem.

Good think we have "due process" to protect people against those who think that jailing 1 innocent man is worth it.  Oh wait...there's that combo of words again, due process.  Hmmmmm... what is that?  IDK, guess it means jailing 1 innocent man of said crime to save others. pUBLiC SAfEtY meh meh meh.

Good thing there was no strike or walk off. Hope this happens again and again.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2023, 11:05:13 AM »
Good think we have "due process" to protect people against those who think that jailing 1 innocent man is worth it.  Oh wait...there's that combo of words again, due process.  Hmmmmm... what is that?  IDK, guess it means jailing 1 innocent man of said crime to save others. pUBLiC SAfEtY meh meh meh.

Good thing there was no strike or walk off. Hope this happens again and again.

Blackstone's Ratio

It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.

The reverse is not "utilitarian."  It's injustice. 

Maybe it's better that ten "peaceful protestors" be shot than several innocent Cops be railroaded and sent to prison?

Using unjust prosecutions to quell civil unrest is like sending your oldest child to reform school so the other children stop arguing with him.

Punish the law breakers (protestor causing damage and injuries), and stop demonizing Cops. 

Most of the protests are sparked by Social Media.  Maybe go after the news agencies and content providers who post misinformation and lies that incite unrest 
before the facts are actually made public.

The rush to "scoop" a big story while spinning it as another race-related Police-on-Black-person incident should not override reasoning and responsible journalism.

There's no better term for a story that gets massive clicks than "viral."  That's what we've devolved into.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2023, 01:37:25 PM »
Beginning to look like Chauvin and his fellow officers were sacrificed.

If I was them I would go down swinging.

Funny thing is, they were pretty calm and collective about it.  I would be livid.

Probably what the lawyers advised their clients to do. Maybe more advantageous to look remorseful than to go down swinging?

I think a couple of the officers bear some responsibility and therefore deserve some punishment but at least one of them was sacrificed to the cause.

They all should appeal their convictions, they have good cause for their cases being overturned and/or given lower convictions/sentences.

eyeeatingfish

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2023, 01:44:34 PM »
Blackstone's Ratio

It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer.

The reverse is not "utilitarian."  It's injustice. 

Maybe it's better that ten "peaceful protestors" be shot than several innocent Cops be railroaded and sent to prison?

Using unjust prosecutions to quell civil unrest is like sending your oldest child to reform school so the other children stop arguing with him.

Punish the law breakers (protestor causing damage and injuries), and stop demonizing Cops. 

Most of the protests are sparked by Social Media.  Maybe go after the news agencies and content providers who post misinformation and lies that incite unrest 
before the facts are actually made public.

The rush to "scoop" a big story while spinning it as another race-related Police-on-Black-person incident should not override reasoning and responsible journalism.

There's no better term for a story that gets massive clicks than "viral."  That's what we've devolved into.

It is definitely injustice, in my opinion, but that doesn't make it not utilitarian. They are separate concepts that can exist independently

Utilitarianism simply looks for the best outcome, whether it be the most good done or the most bad avoided. Like the trolley experiment, they would argue better to run over the one person than to run over 4 people even if it meant turning the trolley towards the one person. They think it is better to toss out justice and put a few innocent people in jail than the consequences of the protests if they were released.

eyeeatingfish

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2023, 01:47:09 PM »
Ask anyone who's standing near you to help you understand what's going on in them. Thanks for playing. Chutes and Ladders.

Maybe after getting some reading glasses you can get some hearing aids, then you can watch the videos and understand.

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changemyoil66

Re: New George Floyd Bodycam Footage Changes Narrative Completely
« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2023, 01:58:19 PM »
Maybe after getting some reading glasses you can get some hearing aids, then you can watch the videos and understand.

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