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General Discussion / HPD REGISTRATION E-MAILS
« on: November 26, 2023, 07:55:09 PM »
Have any of you recently tried to register a firearm online with HPD,

Have you received an emailed response?

I am investigating some troubling behavior and am looking to collect some of these emails to see if there is a pattern.

So if you could share your e-mail (black out any PII) that would be great.
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Legal and Activism / Yukutake vs Shikada. Baton/billy lawsuit
« on: July 25, 2022, 09:06:20 PM »
Hawaii’s ban on batons, Billy clubs and sticks is unconstitutional.

Heres another lawsuit for Hawaii Firearms Coalition Todd Yukutake.

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If you can carry a gun, you can carry a stick #2Amendment

This lawsuit was filed on Todd’s behalf by Alan Beck and Rick Holcomb. These are the same lawyers that won my first lawsuit 7 years ago.
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Yesterday, it was brought to our attention that HPD is (illegally) charging some people $43.25 just to apply for a concealed carry application. How were they doing this? By making them (illegally) sign up for Rapback.

In 2018, Hawaii was the first (and only) state to require people that wished to obtain or register a firearm in the state to sign away their rights and enroll in the FBI Rapback program. For the privilege of doing so, the state deemed that people should be charged a one-time fee of $43.25.
Rapback is an FBI program that enrolls Hawaii gun owners into a constant background check system, where they become a suspect of all crimes in the US, just for owning a gun in Hawaii.

When and how Rapback enrollment can be done is set in Hawaii law. Relevance to firearms is within HRS1345-2 and 134-3 and says that, "The issuing authority shall perform an inquiry on an applicant by using the International Justice and Public Safety Network, including the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement query, the National Crime Information Center, and the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, pursuant to section 846-2.7"

HRS 846-27 says: Except as otherwise provided in this section, criminal history record information shall be used exclusively for the stated purpose for which it was obtained in accordance with section 378-2.5. (43) The county police departments on applicants for permits to acquire firearms pursuant to section 134-2 and on individuals registering their firearms pursuant to section 134-3;"

As you can see, it mentions NOTHING about sections 134-9, which is in regards to Hawaii's concealed carry laws. Furthermore, the fee for a concealed carry permit (when issued) is $10, and this is contained in 134-9: "(d) A fee of $10 shall be charged for each license and shall be deposited in the treasury of the county in which the license is granted."

Section 846-2.7 is explicitly clear, the Rapback enrollment/background checks CANNOT be used for any other purpose than those stated in the law, and section 134-9 is also explicitly clear, the only fee allowed to be charged is the $10 fee.

So this makes it clear that HPD (and possibly other counties) are illegally signing people up for Rapback and stealing their money to do so.

We don't know how many people have fallen victim to these scheme, and likely never will.We did speak to the police department this morning and expect to hear their explanation on Tuesday.

If you have been charged this illegal fee, do reach out to us. It's likely that our lawyers would be interested in hearing about it.
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Legal and Activism / DENIAL LETTERS
« on: July 16, 2022, 06:35:40 PM »
If you have ever received a letter or notification from the police department regarding a permit, registration or CCW license denial or issue (such as TRO or revocation) please send them on to me.

You can block out as much of your personal information as you would like, the important thing for me to be able to see is the date and the wording for the denial or issue.

We are looking to put together a list of potential plaintiffs for future lawsuits and/or use the information to hold the police departments accountable for their abuse.

You can send them to info@hifico.org

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Legal and Activism / Permits Vs Registration side at HPD
« on: July 15, 2022, 06:35:54 PM »
DID you know that you cant take Firearm on the left (permit side) of HPD ??

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Legal and Activism / HI, Im back: For Now.
« on: July 15, 2022, 01:04:36 PM »
I was asked to come back by a couple of people and start posting.

Most people who know me, know why I stopped and if that behavior carries on, ill just leave again.

I don't have time for the pointless trolling and circular talk that some forum members try to use to make their nonsensical point about bullshit.. I don't need the back and forth pretty bickering between people that distract from the point at hand.

If you're not actively involved in fighting for our rights, I don't care about your opinion on what I'm doing, I don't want to hear the "you're just going to make it worse" line, its boring already/
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Legal and Activism / Medical release - Kaiser and Co
« on: March 19, 2021, 04:10:19 PM »
Does HPD still have issues with releases for certain insurance companies?

Starting to look at this again for potential legal action.
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General Discussion / Response to HNL Star Advertiser.
« on: January 28, 2020, 10:15:48 AM »
I wrote this in response to an editorial from the Honolulu Star advertiser.

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/01/27/editorial/our-view/editorial-close-loopholes-in-isles-gun-laws/?HSA=e49de945469fcdbaddbb4b1c75de1b666ed39681

Gun control laws in the islands routinely rank among the toughest in the nation. Yet here we are in another legislative session, and Hawaii's law makes think we need more. Regardless of the fact that we have more guns than people, but with that, we also have the lowest rate of homicide with firearms.

This year they have gone looking for loopholes that they believe make Hawaii unsafe but yet present little to no evidence of it doing so.

>>House bill 1600 would repeal a provision in state law that allows rifles and shotguns to be loaned to another person who is not prohibited by state or federal law. 

This provision was put into the law to allow people to loan firearms to relatives and out of state visitors for hunting and other legal activities. This law also allows a person to remove firearms from their home and leave them with a friend or family member during an emergency such as a fire or natural disaster.

Another group that will be affected is the boyscouts, who often rely on loaned firearms for shooting events.

We have yet to find any evidence of a person with a firearm that they legally acquired through this loaning "loophole" that has later gone on to commit a crime with the firearm.

>>House Bill 1736 would limit the possession of so-called "High Capacity" magazines for rifles to law enforcement use only. Currently, the law prohibits magazines or more than ten rounds in pistols.

Anti-gun groups around that nation like to say that reduced capacity magazines would save lives in a mass shooting, what they fail to mention is they would cost lives in self-defense. 

The reason police officers are exempt in these laws is that they may face situations where there are multiple attackers. These situations don't occur in police stations, but in people's homes, businesses, and public places, where a law-abiding armed citizen would have to deal with the same situation. Running out of ammo in the middle of a threatening life situation is not something a police officer wants to do, nor does the average person.

Another thing that's often overlooked with the Second Amendment is the militia; you know the well-regulated part. Well regulated at the time of writing meant functioning or working correctly, For example, a clock that ran on time would be known as a well-regulated clock. Part of being well regulated would be making sure one is well equipped. 

Hawaii Revised State 121-1 (4) contains the definition of "The unorganized militia."
"The unorganized militia shall consist of those members of the militia who are not members of the national guard, the naval militia, or the state defense force. " (A)

The State of Hawaii is ill-equipped to deal with a natural disaster, let alone deal with a national emergency or one where the militia would need to be activated. It doesn't even have a "state defense force," as mentioned in the same statue. Having the people themselves be armed with suitable equipment (including magazines of a suitable size) would allow the state to quickly and easily muster a force for defense or offense if ever needed.

>> House bill 1734 requires a separate application for a permit of each rifle or shotgun purchase. This is yet another so-called loophole that was intentionally put into the law. It wasn't by mistake and is plainly written.

In 2018, the state law enforcement agencies processed a total of 18,070 firearms permit applications and registered a total of 43,033 firearms. If they were required to process a permit application for each permit, they would be required to do twice as much work. Honolulu police department already spends $1.2million a year in its firearms department and can barely keep up with demand. Other departments are in a similar situation where people end up being sent away and tell to come back another day.

In 2016 Hawaii passed a law the put firearms owners into a federal database known as rap back. This database acts as a continuous background search. This means if anyone commits a crime, the state gets notified and can use that information to remove a person's firearms. Now with such a system in place, a background check for each firearm is made redundant.

With a background check that never stops and consent to check their medical history whenever they need, the police departments have everything they need to checkup on gun owners whenever they feel the need. In fact, once you've done one background check, You shouldn't have to do one ever again.

Could the intent of the law be to make people have to take multiple days off work and make it so cost-prohibitive that people just don't want to go through the process? Hawaii Firearms Coalition thinks so. That's why HIFICO director Todd Yukutake filed a federal lawsuit challenging the permitting process. (B)

>>House Bill 1733 aims to ban home-built firearms, known as "Ghost guns" Firearms that are manufactured by a person for their own personal use. 

The common misconception with "Ghost guns" is that you just order them online and assemble them like lego, When in fact, the reality is it's more like ice carving. You buy your block of ice and using special tools, and you start to cut away the ice until you are left with a work of art.

"Ghost guns" aren't new, and if it weren't for the fact that a manufacturing company filed a lawsuit against the Department of State,(C) you probably wouldn't be hearing about them now. They are the new Teflon coated bullet. Something that somebody read about on the internet or seen in a movie and started yelling the sky is falling.

The ability to manufacture a firearm for ones own personal use must be at the heart of the Second Amendment. The fact that technology and materials have changed should have no bearing on that ability. To give the government the ability to prohibit the building of arms and, at the same time, the ability to control import would allow them to effectively cause the right to bear arms to cease to exist.

All firearms in the state are already required to be registered; all firearms are required to have a serial number to be registered. A person can avoid getting a permit by simply purchasing a firearm from out of state and bringing it back to Hawaii or even go to the effort of mailing it. Both of which are cheaper then making a "Ghost Gun", Something that, if not done correctly, could be catastrophic or even deadly to the user.

We have spoken to more than a dozen police officers past and present, and not one of them has ever come across a homemade firearm, let alone came across one in a crime. In fact, most firearms that they do come in contact with are stolen and have had the serial numbers removed, two things that are already illegal in Hawaii.

Hawaii state legislators have put together more than three dozen gun-related bills this session and while weighing the pros and cons lawmakers will ignore the fact that law-abiding gun owners are the only ones who follow gun laws, not one of these gun laws will stop a criminal obtaining a firearm and using it for ill intent.

Andrew Namiki Roberts
Director Hawaii Firearms Coaltion.

(A)https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrsarchive/hrs2000/Vol03_Ch121-200/hrs121/HRS_121-1.htm
(B)https://dockets.justia.com/docket/hawaii/hidce/1:2019cv00578/146729
(C)https://harvardlawreview.org/2017/04/defense-distributed-v-united-states-department-of-state/
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Legal and Activism / YET AGAIN WE ARE GUN NUTS
« on: January 05, 2020, 08:45:50 PM »
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please pass this out and talk to your clubs and stores about this.  PDF: https://hifico.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/HIFICO-Rally-2020.pdf

We need you to register so I can create the Senate/House breakout groups to meet your legislators.  Register at www.hifico.org/rally2020

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Legal and Activism / deadly force bill.
« on: October 05, 2019, 10:06:43 PM »
Im considering putting forward a bill to change Hawaii's use of deadly force law. What do you guys think?

§703-304 Use of force in self-protection.
(1) Subject to the provisions of this section and of section 703-308, the use of force upon or toward another person is justifiable when the actor believes that such force is immediately necessary for the purpose of protecting himself against the use of unlawful force by the other person on the present occasion.

(2) The use of deadly force is justifiable under this section if the actor believes that deadly force is necessary to
(A)protect himself against death, serious bodily injury, kidnapping, rape, or forcible sodomy.
(B)deadly force is necessary to stop unlawful forced entry to the actor's home, vehicle, place of sojourn, place of business or employment.
(c)deadly force is necessary to stop a crime against the actor's property during the hours of darkness. Hours of darkness are defined as one half-hour after sunset and one-half hour before sunrise.
Forced entry to, or the brandishing of a weapon on the actor's property shall in itself be evidence of intent to cause serious bodily harm or death to the actor.
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Legal and Activism / State admits Rap Back is bullshit.
« on: May 16, 2019, 11:40:00 AM »
State admits that Rap Back is bullshit

“according to Chris Young, administrator at the state Criminal Justice Data Center, which runs a state version of the Rap Back program.

No fingerprints of registered gun owners were submitted to the FBI, as the federal agency has not decided if Hawaii’s inclusion of firearm registrants’ fingerprints would be permissible, “

https://www.civilbeat.org/2019/05/gun-group-sues-fbi-for-records-on-state-fingerprint-program/
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Legal and Activism / HIFICO sues the FBI
« on: April 30, 2019, 10:11:08 PM »

Honolulu, Hawaii – Local gun rights group Hawaii Firearms Coalition in an attempt to seek clarification on the State of Hawaii's use of the FBI Rap Back service submitted a Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) request seeking documents under the control of the FBI. The FBI failed to respond to the request in the legally allotted time.

In 2016, Governor Ige signed SB 2954 into law. The law authorizes people who register firearms in Hawaii to be entered in the FBI’s Rap Back service database. People who register firearms in the county where they live will have their fingerprints retained and entered into the Rap Back service.

Per the FBI, “The Rap Back service allows authorized agencies to receive notification of activity on individuals who hold positions of trust (e.g. school teachers, daycare workers) or who are under criminal justice supervision or investigation, thus eliminating the need for repeated background checks on a person from the same applicant agency. “ “The fingerprints enrolled in the Rap Back Service are continuously searched by and against criminal (including latent) and non-criminal justice fingerprints subsequently submitted to NGI.”

It was brought to Hawaii Firearms Coalition's attention during this year's legislative session that not one single firearms owner has been entered into the service. However, for more than two years, the state has been requiring firearm owners to sign a wavier (of their constitutional rights) and collect the fees associated with the FBI Rap Back service.

Hawaii Firearms Coalition is seeking clarification from the FBI over the state's attempted use of the service. To do so, they requested copies of all communications and policies shared between the state and the FBI regarding Rap Back and the state's use of it for firearms owners. Additionally, they requested copies of any and all receipts for payments from the state to the FBI in relation to firearms and the Rap Back service.

Federal law requires that the FBI respond to all FOIA requests within 20 days of submission. The FBI has, in this case, failed to respond. Thus, on behalf of the Hawaii Firearms Coalition, Stephen D. Stamboulieh, Attorney at Law, filed to sue the FBI in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia.

Hawaii Firearms Coalition is hoping to show Hawaii's attempted use of the Rap Back service for firearms owners: 1)violates the FBI's policy's regarding the Rap Back service, 2) violates federal laws, 3) infringed on the constitutional rights of firearms owners, and 4) the FBI is denying the state's use of the Rap Back service due to these attempted violations.

The State of Hawaii needs to stop treating the Second Amendment like a second class right and start treating those that own or wish to own firearms as the law abiding people that they are.

Hawaii Firearms Coalition is a 501(c)(4) organization, founded to protect and unify Hawaii’s firearms owners and those that believe in the constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms.

Links : https://hifico.org/
https://hifico.org/foia-complaint/
https://www.fbi.gov/…/cjis/fingerprints-and-other-biome…/ngi
https://www.fbi.gov/file-…/pia-ngi-rap-back-service.pdf/view
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Off Topic / Photo OP
« on: April 13, 2019, 06:52:37 PM »
When you get the chance for a great photo, You have to take it.

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Legal and Activism / State of Hawaii steals millions from gun owners
« on: March 20, 2019, 10:17:42 PM »
State of Hawaii Steals Millions of Dollars From Gun Owners

State of Hawaii collects fees associated with non-functioning federal services to collect funds from Hawaii gun owners who get no service provided in return.

Currently, Hawaii requires all persons in the state to pay a fee for a criminal background check and to be entered into the FBI Rap Back system if they wish to obtain or register a firearm.
 Hawaii passed a law in 2016 that requires enrollment into the FBI Rap Back system. They started collecting funds in December of that year.  The enrollment into Rap Back causes the person to be entered into a federal database where their fingerprints are run against all arrest records and against latent fingerprints from crime scenes to determine if that person is a criminal. This check is not just done on past fingerprints, but all fingerprints collected into the future.  Therefore, owning a firearm in Hawaii makes you a suspect to any crime the FBI encounters.

The Rap Back system also uses a reporting function where: if a person is arrested anywhere in the United States of America, the state and county police departments would be notified and would then determine if that person’s actions (elsewhere) would prelude them from owning firearms in Hawaii.
To do so, the state and counties require the firearm applicant, or person registering a firearm, to sign a waiver of their 4th amendment right. Thus, allowing themselves to be entered into the system.

The FBI says that the Rap Back system is voluntary for non-criminal use. Hawaii makes it required by law. If you don’t sign the waiver, you can’t own a firearm.  In fact, if someone refuses to sign the waiver when registering a firearm, the county police departments will seize the firearm.  They can then arrest you for failure to register the firearm within the required time limit.

During the March 15th hearings for bills relating to firearms at the Hawaii State Capital, it was brought to light that the State of Hawaii, via the Hawaii County Police Department, has been collecting funds from firearms owners along with consent forms in relation to the FBI Rap Back program.  The fee for fingerprinting an enrollment currently stands at $43.25. 

The problem with this is the system is not set up.  The State has no firearm owners enrolled in the Rap Back system.

During the year of 2017, the State of Hawaii had 40,635 firearms registered.   Enrollment into the Rap Back system is required to register a firearm or must have been done previously when obtaining a permit to acquire that firearm. This would lead us to believe that the state collected more than $1.7 million from firearm owners. Even though the system required is not in place. If a similar number of firearms were registered in 2018 (report will not be available until May) this number could be as much as $3 million.
Hawaii Criminal Justice Data Center is paid the fees collected by the counties, which are meant to be used to process fingerprints, and for entry of the individual’s information into the FBI Rap Back database. Currently, the fees cover the cost of processing all the data for the individual.  However, if the cost were to rise, the fees would fall short. Thus, resulting in a hefty expense to the state.  A price increase of $0.50 per entry would result in the state having to find an extra $40,000 or more.

Firearm owners are being charged these fees due to the state’s requirement that they pay for the Rap Back service to be provided to them. So far, no service is being provided.  It has been more than two   years and we’re being led to believe that it will never be available.  WHY are they still being charged? Why would you collect funds for a service that’s not available? It’s like paying an electricity bill, but not being hooked up the grid.

We feel the state’s purpose is to dissuade those who believe that their right to privacy is as equally as important as their right to bear arms. We also feel, some people who would otherwise purchase a firearm, simply will not pay for and sign away their other rights to do so.

The State of Hawaii and the county police departments not only owe firearm owners in Hawaii an apology, until the system is working correctly and is available for use, they also need to stop collecting funds and personal data for the Rap Back system. They should also need to refund people who have paid fees with no service provided.  We feel that this is equivalent to theft. If anyone else collected money for a service they are unable to provide, criminal charges would shortly follow.  Therefore, we feel, there are wrongs that need to be righted.

Hawaii firearms Coalition has set up a webform for Hawaii firearm owners to request a refund of the fees associated with Rap Back. You can find the form at  www.hifico.org/rapback.

Once completed, the form will automatically e-mail the Attorney General’s office, requesting a refund for the fees collected and associated with Rap Back.

Andrew Namiki Roberts
DIRECTOR Hawaii Firearms Coalition
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Legal and Activism / HIFICO @ Kalihi Town Hall Metting
« on: February 27, 2019, 07:43:55 PM »
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Legal and Activism / The man to blame
« on: February 22, 2019, 08:57:27 PM »


This is Senator Karl Rhoads
Senate District 13

Today he heard 4 firearms bills in the Committee on Judiciary, He voted against the people. He passed 3 of the bills and deferred one of them Ignoring more then 1300 pieces of testimony.

WE THE PEOPLE elect legislators to office to represent us, NOT to rule us. Their job is to listen to the people and to represent our wishes not apply there own bias.

Give Senator Karl Rhoads a call AND shoot him an e-mail letting him know that what he did was wrong, Let him know that WE THE PEOPLE are done with rulers being in the people house and let him know when election time comes around his actions will be remembered.

The bills voted on today were SB600, SB621, SB1321, SB1466

If you get a voice mail. Leave a message, Ask for him to call you back to explain WHY he voted the way he did, Why he didn't listen to us THE PEOPLE.

phone: 808-586-6130
senrhoads@capitol.hawaii.gov
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Legal and Activism / OFFICIAL : From HIFICO, WE GOT FUCKED.
« on: February 10, 2019, 08:12:53 PM »
THIS IS LONG, BUT YOU NEED TO READ IF YOU BELIEVE IN FREEDOM.

Over the last few weeks Hawaii Firearms Coalition has been helping you the people submit testimony to the Hawaii state legislators.

We have been using our web site and the state e-mail system to do so.

It is with great sadness that I need to inform you that all of our work and yours was ignored. Now I don’t mean they heard us but chose not to listen. I mean they made a choice not to hear us at all.

The Senate Committee on public Safety, Intergovernmental, and Military Affairs has arbitrarily decided to not accept testimony submitted to it via e-mail. Ignoring the fact that the e-mail system is an approved and legitimate way to submit testimony. Ignoring the fact that we had confirmed with the public access (information) room, the senate clerks office and the committee chairs office itself that our testimony was being accepted. We even called the day before the hearings to enquire and were told it was being included.

We did not find out it was not included until the day of the hearings after the testimony was released to the public. The number of testimonies missing across the 5 bills is around 700, that means that the other members of the committee were denied the ability to make an educated determination the bills, they were not presented with the will of the people that they are representing. Your testimonies equated to around 75% of the tots submissions. This means that the legislators made a determination of what Hawaii wants and what’s best for us the people whilst ignoring the opinions on 75% of the people.

I Andrew, went to Senator Clarence K. Nishihara’s office (the committee chair) to find out what happened and why. What I was told shocked me beyond belief, this committee has been ignoring this official method of submitting testimonies for 2 legislative sessions. So not only have they ignored the approximately 700 submissions for these 5 bills but they could have ignored thousands of more for dozens of other bills.

When asked why they do this I was told simply that this is just the way we do it, when I asked if it was noted anywhere I was told it was on the hearing notice. So we looked at the hearing notice and guess what, they lied. Although they do link to the legislative website to submit testimony, it’s the same website where it says you can e-mail testimony’s.

I asked for the senator to call me to let me know what happened and he did. What he said was the comments we submitted would be added to the committee report. This is the report generated AFTER the committee hearing and shows its recommendations on the bill. Why would they add something to a report that was not used to determine the outcome of the reporter ? To his what they did. To his the fact that since 2018 this one legislator has made a choice to hear testimonies submitted by e-mails and to not allow the other committee members to do so either.

Now what can we do ?

Here’s the 3 things,
Call and e-mail Senator Clarence K. Nishihara and let him know what you think.
phone: 808-586-6970
sennishihara@capitol.hawaii.gov

Call and e-mail the Senate president and let him know what’s happened and ask him to intervene in stoping the progress of these bills due to the testimony not being handled correctly.
Senator Ronald D. Kouchi
phone: 808-586-6030
senkouchi@capitol.hawaii.gov

Call and e-mail your representatives and let them know that your not happy. You can find your here

You can see a video of my interaction with the senators staff here
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General Discussion / HOW TO SPOT A TERRORIST IN THE UK
« on: January 31, 2019, 09:32:36 AM »
A guy putting out trash, A guy purchasing a hammer and a Guy taking photos in public.

ALL OF THESE THINGS COULD BE WARNINGS OF TERRORISM

SMH,

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Legal and Activism / The rifle case video.
« on: January 08, 2019, 10:29:46 AM »
Some of you may have seen this before (although it is on the HiFICO YouTube channel this is not carried out or endorsed by HIFICO and is nearly shared for educational purposes)

Last year I walked through Waikiki carrying a rifle case. Whilst doing so I was followed by a man who latter (at my request) identified himself as a DLNR officer. He followed me into stores and a restroom.

He then lost sight of me as he went I to the Waikiki police station to seek assistance.

Shortly after Waikiki was flooded by police officers, when I was spotted by them an officer started following me whilst others got ahead of me. I made the choice to stop and make contact in the shade and be living they may detain me, somewhere I could sit down.

Here’s the video

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