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Legal and Activism / Firearms at home / Carrying at home
« on: February 15, 2016, 07:04:17 PM »
Hi i would like to enquirer whether carrying a firearm within your own property is legal in the state and if this is effected by whether you can be seen from a public area or not,

For example.....
Is it legal to carry openly (a loaded firearm in a holster)inside my living room?
Is it legal to carry openly (a loaded firearm in a holster)outside in my front yard?
Is it legal to carry openly (a loaded firearm in a holster)outside in my front yard if i am visible from a public street?
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General Discussion / Way to start a career (yet more HPD hijinx)
« on: February 09, 2016, 08:45:07 AM »
Apparently the corruption is starting day one now

Internal probe targets alleged cheating at police academy

"A cheating scandal at the Honolulu Police Department's training academy has resulted in an internal investigation, officials said.

Some recruits in the current class at HPD's training academy in Waipahu are under investigation because of allegations that some of them received answers to questions on tests in advance, allowing them to cheat"

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/31172312/exclusive-internal-probe-targets-alleged-cheating-at-police-academy
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General Discussion / pepper spray,
« on: February 06, 2016, 12:09:46 PM »
So i have tried a search of the forum and google ect...

And have seen so much conflicting information.

The only laws (status) i can find regarding pepper spray are on the seller are ROH (Revised Ordinances of Honolulu) not state laws.  I have copied and pasted the relevant information below and here is a link to the ROH. https://www.honolulu.gov/rep/site/ocs/roh/ROH_Chapter_41a26_42_.pdf

Now my question is this, People keep talking about a size restriction yet i can not find it anywhere in the laws (some places say 1/2oz others say 1oz). Although i see restrictions on the sale within the state i see no restrictions about bringing pepper spray from out of state. Any one know of any other laws regarding pepper spray i may have overlooked ?


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ROH : Sec. 41-37.1 Definitions.
"Adult" means any natural person other than a minor.
"Chief of police" means the chief of police of the City and County of Honolulu or the chief of police's authorized
subordinate.
"Chemical device" means any aerosol container or other device that is capable of emitting chloroacetaphenone (CN),
orthochlorobenzalmalononitrile (CS), or oleoresin capsicum (OC), or any combination or derivative thereof, in a vapor or liquid form.
"Controlled substance" means the same as defined in HRS Section 329-1.
"Department" means the Honolulu police department.
"Designated place of business" means a fixed place of business owned or leased by a licensee and designated by the
licensee in its application under Section 41-37.4 as a place where it desires to sell or otherwise distribute pepper spray on a regular
basis. "Designated place of business" does not include any temporary space rented or leased by a licensee at a swap meet, open
market or other similar setting.
"Licensee" means any person who has obtained, pursuant to Section 41-37.4, a license to sell, transport or otherwise
distribute pepper sprays in the city.
"Minor" means any natural person below the age of 18 years.
"Pepper spray" means any aerosol container or other device designed to fit into a handbag or a pants pocket and has a
trigger-guard, flip top or other mechanism to prevent the accidental release of the spray, that: (1) is capable of emitting oleoresin
capsicum (OC), or any derivative thereof, in a vapor or liquid form; (2) contains only the chemical substance oleoresin capsicum, or
any derivative thereof, without containing chloroacetaphenone (CN) or orthochlorobenzalmalononitrile (CS); and (3) contains a nonflammable
propellant and/or carrier.
"Person" means the same as defined in Section 41-25.1.
(Added by Ord. 95-49)
Sec. 41-37.2 Exceptions.
This article shall not apply to persons authorized under Sections 40-2.4 and 40-2.7 to possess, use, sell, transport, or
otherwise distribute chemical devices in the city; provided that the persons possess, use, sell, transport or otherwise distribute the
chemical devices while acting in their capacities as employees of the city, of private security agencies, and of other organizations, or
as licensed vendors, all in accordance with Chapter 40, Article 2. (Added by Ord. 95-49)
Sec. 41-37.3 Restrictions on possession, sale, and use of pepper sprays.
(a) It is unlawful for any person to use any pepper spray for any purpose except:
(1) Self-defense;
(2) Defense of another person; or
(3) Protection of property of the person or of another person.
(b) It is unlawful for any person to sell or offer for sale any pepper spray in the city without a license obtained pursuant to
Section 41-37.4.
(c) It is unlawful for any person to sell, offer for sale or otherwise furnish any pepper spray to a minor in the city.
(d) It is unlawful for a minor to purchase, possess or use any pepper spray in the city.
(e) It is unlawful to sell or offer for sale any pepper spray on premises where liquor or alcoholic beverages are consumed.
(f) It is unlawful for any person to alter the manufacturer's name on any pepper spray to be carried or used in the city.
(Added by Ord. 95-49)
Sec. 41-37.4 License to distribute--Application and requirements.
(a) Any person desiring to sell or offer for sale any pepper spray in the city may apply for a license using forms prescribed by
the director of finance. The application shall set forth the name and location of the principal place of business of the
licensee and, if applicable, each additional designated place of business at which the licensee desires to sell pepper spray
on a regular basis.
(b) Upon receipt of the completed form and the fee established in subsection (f), the director of finance shall issue a license
and, if requested, certified copies thereof to the applicant.
(c) Prior to making a sale of or otherwise distributing pepper spray, the licensee shall provide a point-of-sale briefing that
includes, but is not limited to, the following:
(1) The proper and safe use of the spray;
(2) The shelf life of the spray;
(3) The proper disposal of the spray;
(4) First-aid or medical remedies for people who come in contact with the spray; and
(5) Current information regarding the effectiveness and limitations of the spray.
After giving the briefing, and prior to the sale or distribution of the pepper spray, the licensee shall obtain a signed
acknowledgement from the purchaser or other recipient acknowledging that they have received the briefing. The
acknowledgement shall be on a form provided by the department of finance or a copy thereof.
(d) The license or a certified copy thereof shall be posted at each designated place of business during any hours when pepper
spray is being sold or offered for sale.
(e) No license shall be issued to a minor.
(f) The annual fee for a license under this section shall be $25.00 for the principal place of business of the licensee and shall
be $25.00 for each additional designated place of business of the licensee, which shall be payable to the director of finance.
The license shall be provided by the director of finance for the principal place of business and, if applicable, a certified
copy of the license shall be provided for each additional designated place of business.
(Added by Ord. 95-49; Am. Ord. 96-77)
Sec. 41-37.5 Conditions of license.
(a) The licensee's books and records for the licensee's inventory shall be subject to inspection by the department at reasonable
times during normal business hours. In addition to the records required to be kept under subsection (b), the licensee shall
keep a record of the licensee's purchases, sales and other acquisitions and distributions of pepper sprays as well as a record
of the licensee's current inventory of pepper sprays.
(b) The licensee shall keep records of pepper sprays sold or otherwise distributed by the licensee in the city for a minimum of
five years from the date of sale or other distribution. The records kept shall include:
(1) The recipient's name, date of birth and address;
(2) The quantity and description of the pepper spray distributed, including the name of the manufacturer;
(3) If applicable, the business name, address, telephone number, and the pepper spray license number of the
purchaser;
(4) The date and time of transaction;
(5) Information as to whether the transaction was a sale, gift or other transaction; and
(6) Signed acknowledgement forms required, pursuant to subsection 41-37.4(c), of a purchaser or recipient of
pepper spray.
(c) When displaying or storing pepper sprays at a designated place of business, the licensee shall display or store the pepper
sprays at a location that is not within the reach of the general public and shall make a sale of pepper spray only upon
request and only to an adult.
(d) The licensee or an adult employee of the licensee shall be present during all hours of operation of each designated place of
business of the licensee; provided that if the pepper spray is in a locked cabinet inaccessible to minor employees, no adult
employee need be present at the place of business.
(e) The licensee shall be responsible for the legal sale, distribution, and proper storage of any pepper spray under the licensee's
control or at any one of the licensee's designated place of business.
(Added by Ord. 95-49; Am. Ord. 96-77)
Sec. 41-37.6 Suspension or revocation of license.
If the department has probable cause to believe that a licensee has violated any provision of this article, the license may be
suspended by the director of finance. If the licensee is not convicted, then the director of finance shall remove any suspension placed
on the license. If the licensee is convicted, then the license shall be revoked by the director of finance. (Added by Ord. 95-49)
Sec. 41-37.7 Forfeiture.
Any chemical device under the ownership of or found in the possession of or at the premises of a licensee may be subject
to forfeiture to the city in accordance with the provisions of HRS Chapter 712A and if so forfeited, shall be destroyed or, if not
destroyed, transferred to the chief of police for use by and under the control of the department. (Added by Ord. 95-49)
Sec. 41-37.8 Rules.
The director of finance and the chief of police are authorized to adopt rules in accordance with HRS Chapter 91 necessary
to administer and enforce the provisions of this article. (Added by Ord. 95-49)
Sec. 41-37.9 Violation--Penalty.
Any person who violates any provision of this article shall, upon conviction, be punished by a fine not exceeding $2,000.00
or by imprisonment not exceeding one year, or by both. In addition to the penalties assessed under this section, upon conviction of
any licensee, any license issued under this article shall be suspended or revoked pursuant to the provisions of Section 41-37.6. Each
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In a major victory for gun rights advocates, a federal appeals court on Thursday sided with a broad coalition of gun owners, businesses and organizations that challenged the constitutionality of a Maryland ban on assault weapons and other laws aimed at curbing gun violence.

A three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit said the state's prohibition on what the court called "the vast majority of semi-automatic rifles commonly kept by several million American citizens" amounted to a violation of their\ rights under the Constitution.

66 page opinion : https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2704151/Court-opinion-on-Maryland-assault-weapons.pdf

News Article : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/assault-weapons-constitutional-protection_us_56b38ec7e4b08069c7a65c21?
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Legal and Activism / And you though Hawaii was bad
« on: January 29, 2016, 01:02:56 PM »
Law Enforcement Could Seize Semiautomatics Under Ga. Bill

Georgia lawmakers have put forth several gun control bills this year, including a measure that would call on law enforcement to seize and destroy what the proposal deems “assault weapons” from gun owners.

A major purpose of HB 731 is “to designate certain weaponry and ammunition as contraband and to require seizure of such by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.”

Full Story here : http://cnsnews.com/blog/eric-scheiner/law-enforcement-could-seize-semiautomatics-under-ga-bill

The Bill : http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20152016/154275.pdf

List of banned firearms, Not limited to
 : (B) Any of the following semiautomatic firearms: the Algimec Agmi; Armalite
46 AR-180; Australian Automatic Arms SAP Pistol; Auto-Ordnance Thompson type;
47 Avtomat Kalashnikov AK-47 type; Barrett Light-Fifty model 82A1; Beretta AR-70;
48 Bushmaster Auto Rifle and Auto Pistol; Calico models M-900, M-950, and 100-P;
49 Chartered Industries of Singapore SR-88; Colt AR-15 and Sporter; Daewoo K-1, K-2,
50 Max-1, and Max-2; Encom MK-IV, MP-9, and MP-45; Fabrique Nationale FN/FAL,
51 FN/LAR, or FN/FNC; FAMAS MAS 223; Feather AT-9 and Mini-AT; Federal XC 900
52 and XC-450; Franchi SPAS-12 and LAW-12; Galil AR and ARM; Goncz High-Tech
53 Carbine and High-Tech Long Pistol; Heckler & Koch HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, and
54 SP-89; Holmes MP-83; MAC-10, MAC-11, and MAC-11 Carbine type; Intratec TEC-9
55 and Scorpion; Iver Johnson Enforcer model 3000; Ruger Mini-14/5F folding stock
56 model; Scarab Skorpion; SIG 57 AMT and 500 series; Spectre Auto Carbine and Auto
57 Pistol; Springfield Armory BM59, SAR-48, and G-3; Sterling MK-6 and MK-7; Steyr
58 AUG; Street Sweeper and Striker 12 revolving cylinder shotguns; USAS-12; UZI
59 Carbine, Mini-Carbine, and Pistol; Weaver Arms Nighthawk; and Wilkinson Linda
60 Pistol, and any part designed or intended for use with such firearms;

61 (C) Any of the following semiautomatic center-fire rifles: the AK-47; AK-74; AKM;
62 AKS-74U; ARM; MAADI AK47; MAK90; MISR; NHM90; NHM91; Norinco 56,
63 56S, 84S, and 86S; Poly Technologies AKS and AK47; SA 85; SA 93; VEPR;
64 WASR-10; WUM; Rock River Arms LAR-47; Vector Arms AK-47; AR-10; AR-15;
65 Bushmaster Carbon 15; Bushmaster XM15; Bushmaster ACR Rifles; Bushmaster MOE
66 Rifles; Colt Match Target Rifles; Armalite M15; Olympic Arms AR-15, A1, CAR,
67 PCR, K3B, K30R, K16, K48, K8, and K9 Rifles; DPMS Tactical Rifles; Smith &
68 Wesson M&P15 Rifles; Rock River Arms LAR-15; Doublestar AR Rifles; Barrett
69 REC7; Beretta Storm; Calico Liberty 50, 50 Tactical, 100, 100 Tactical, I, I Tactical,
70 II, and II Tactical Rifles; Hi-Point Carbine Rifles; HK-PSG-1; Kel-Tec Sub-2000, SU
71 Rifles, and RFB; Remington Tactical Rifle Model 7615; SAR-8; SAR-4800; SR9; SLG
72 95; SLR 95 and 96; TNW M230 and M2HB; Vector Arms UZI; Galil and Galil Sporter;
73 Daewoo AR 100 and AR 110C; Fabrique Nationale/FN 308 Match and L1A1 Sporter;
74 HK USC; IZHMASH Saiga AK; SIG Sauer 551-A1, 556, 516, 716, and M400 Rifles;
75 Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78S; Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine; and Barrett
76 M107A1;
77 (D) Any of the following semiautomatic pistols: the Centurion 39 AK; Draco AK-47;
78 HCR AK-47; I.O. Inc. Hellpup AK-47; Mini-Draco AK-47; Yugo Krebs Krink;
79 American Spirit AR-15; Bushmaster Carbon 15; Doublestar Corporation AR; DPMS
80 AR-15; Olympic Arms AR-15; Rock River Arms LAR 15; Calico Liberty III and III
81 Tactical Pistols; Masterpiece Arms MPA Pistols; Velocity Arms VMA Pistols; Intratec
82 TEC-DC9 and AB-10; Colefire Magnum; German Sport 522 PK and Chiappa Firearms
83 Mfour-22; DSA SA58 PKP FAL; I.O. Inc. PPS-43C; Kel-Tec PLR-16 Pistol; Sig Sauer
84 P516 and P556 Pistols; and Thompson TA5 Pistols;

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Legal and Activism / My Lawsuit Update,
« on: January 27, 2016, 05:46:55 PM »
BAck in November i had to file a Lawsuit in Federal court in regards to HPD violating my rights and potentially the rights of others,

I First Acquired a Rifle permit and was issued it with no problem, I Then tried to get a pistol permit a couple of weeks latter and this is where i ran into a problem. HPD claimed to have a "policy"

They claimed that the policy stated that Non-Citizens were required to provide documentation (a letter or copy of their criminal history) from their country of origin or the embassy or consulate of that country. When asked for a copy of the policy they claimed it was a verbal policy issued from the cheifes/city lawyers.
They claimed the policy was because the NCIS check they are required to do does not show family crimes or misdemeanors that would prohibit owning a gun in Hawaii.
I explained to them they were wrong and that it does show this (i even checked with Homeland security) I explained that the law required that they do the background check, I also explained that if i went to get my citizenship (which i am in the process of doing) they wouldn't even ask about my history before hand (their is no history anyway).
This is where it gets really stupid, I had already been issued a valid rifle permit, So i went and bought a cheap shotgun. I then took this shotgun to HPD to register, They seized my shotgun and revoked my permit. They told me the permit was issued in error and as such i should of never been able to buy the shotgun. I explained that although they may believe that to be the case, The law does not allow them to seize my legally purchased/owned firearm and doing so was a violation of my rights, I asked them under what law they were seizing it and they could not answer, I asked them if i had broken a law they told me no.

I was left with little to no choice but to file suit. I called Richard L Holcomb (If you need a lawyer for this type of thing he is the guy)  I expalined the situation to him and he was right on it, We filled the lawsuit in federal court on November 6th 2015 (a copy of which can be found here http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Portals/0/Article%20Attachments/Roberts%20v%20Honolulu%202nd%20Amendment.pdf)

It is a 2nd, 4th and 14th amendment case,

The city settled the case  this past week, They accept no liability or wrong doing But gave me back my rifle and issued me both my permits, They also changed HPD policy to state that they can/will not require additional background checks of non-citizens other then allowed by law (via the NCIS database)

Now im not sure how many other people they may have done this too who were not aware of what their rights are, But even tho this dose not affect that many people here in Hawaii, it is still a 2A win for everyone.
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