Trump (Read 456059 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1380 on: March 01, 2019, 03:37:22 PM »
2016 video shows Michael Cohen lied to Congress about
not wanting a Trump administration job


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2016-video-suggests-michael-cohen-lied-about-not-wanting-a-job-with-the-trump-administration
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1381 on: March 05, 2019, 04:29:37 PM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1382 on: March 05, 2019, 05:07:25 PM »
More than 2 years, millions spent on investigations, Trump is the most vetted politician in history.

Did he just screw the NSA???

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changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1383 on: March 06, 2019, 10:12:06 PM »
Used to watch the world news on channel 6 and 3 and majority is about Trump negatives.

Watching in Taiwan its actuall world stuff. Freedom of speech protest in Uganda, venusuala, Nigeria. Corupt officials and CEOs from Japan, S. Korea, China. And yes YELLOW VEST movement still going strong 1 month later.

Only thing Taiwan news said about Trump was that his meeting with Kim Jong is done and trade war with China. Nothing negative (fake news).

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dustoff003

Re: Trump
« Reply #1384 on: March 06, 2019, 10:25:26 PM »
Used to watch the world news on channel 6 and 3 and majority is about Trump negatives.

Watching in Taiwan its actuall world stuff. Freedom of speech protest in Uganda, venusuala, Nigeria. Corupt officials and CEOs from Japan, S. Korea, China. And yes YELLOW VEST movement still going strong 1 month later.

Only thing Taiwan news said about Trump was that his meeting with Kim Jong is done and trade war with China. Nothing negative (fake news).

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02nq0gn/episodes/downloads

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #1385 on: March 07, 2019, 10:09:56 PM »
He didn't write the statement that he gave, but I'm sure he added his 2 cents in.  That part about denying certain stories was inputted just to fool the public and give him some credibility.  Which it seems like it worked.  We need to think deeper at the facts to see if he is credible or not.  Here is why I won't believe anything he says now:

1) Lied under oath previously
2) Disbarred attorney
3) Felon
4) His attorney is a long time Clinton friend/attorney
5) Spoke to DNC members prior to hearing
6) If he did have any important intel, he must have already given it to Mueller, or he would have another perjury charge
7) Most of what he said is un-provable (Trump is a racist, Trump is conning the US, etc...)
8) Going to jail and struct a plea deal
9) Prior to getting in trouble, worked for Trump for 10+ years.  If he was such a criminal/racist/homophobe, why didn't he cut him off after the 1st year or less
10) Has "evidence" (checks) for payments.  If Trump was paying for something illegal, then he would pay cash and not a check (Enter Jussie Smolette).  Why didn't he call the police at that time?  It's common for rich people to pay their attorneys retainers so that they can handle what ever comes their way.  Rich/powerful people get lawsuits all the time and don't have the time to deal with it.  So they give their attorney payments and say you handle what ever comes my way within X amount of dollars.  BTW Stormi lost her case against Trump and now owes him money.  Art of the Deal.

So 1 of the above alone doesn't give much to someones credibility, but when you add them all together, you have to question it.  Same thing went with Christine Ford and her accusations against Kav.  Oh BTW, where is she now?  How come she's not pursuing anything?  Where did her $1,000,000 GoFundMe go to?


How do you know he didn't write the statement? I have no doubt he probably ran it by some people first but I hadn't seen any evidence someone else authored it.

Like I said though, I am not in any rush to believe anything he says, any testimony he gives is problematic.

The fact Trump wrote a check doesn't prove Trump didn't do anything illegal. Maybe he didn't think it was illegal or maybe he didn't think he would get caught. I have to follow up and see all the evidence he mentioned. I know he referenced the checks but I didn't listen to the entire testimony so I don't know what other evidence there is. That is why I reserve trusting his testimony till I see more about what evidence there was. Lying under oath once doesn't mean you will never tell the truth again, it just means that whatever you say is going to be harder to believe.



I don't understand your point about Christine Ford, what does that have to do with anything? What is she supposed to pursue, she gave her public statement and there are no criminal charges to approve at this point so that story is pretty much done.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1386 on: March 08, 2019, 01:18:53 AM »
Ford made accusarions the same way that Cohen is doing and the left jumps on it like a bitch in heat because its Trump/ Trump related.

If Kav did what she claims. Why no follow up for justice. 6 women till this day are still fighting for justice that Clinton raped them. But you wont see them on any headlines.

So like Ford. Cohen will dissapear once he is out of the spot light even though he has evidence of illegal things Trump has done.

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changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1387 on: March 08, 2019, 03:28:00 AM »
Ford made accusarions the same way that Cohen is doing and the left jumps on it like a bitch in heat because its Trump/ Trump related.

If Kav did what she claims. Why no follow up for justice. 6 women till this day are still fighting for justice that Clinton raped them. But you wont see them on any headlines.

So like Ford. Cohen will dissapear once he is out of the spot light even though he has evidence of illegal things Trump has done.

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BTW if he did have any credible intel, he would have given it to Mueller and them told to shut his mouth about it. If he didnt give it to Mueller and had more intel, then another purjury charge.

So the DNC is once again using someone to sell a story to try and derail the train and his supporters

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #1388 on: March 08, 2019, 08:55:58 PM »
BTW if he did have any credible intel, he would have given it to Mueller and them told to shut his mouth about it. If he didnt give it to Mueller and had more intel, then another purjury charge.

So the DNC is once again using someone to sell a story to try and derail the train and his supporters

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Not necessarily. If the evidence isn't relevant to what Mueller was investigating then he would have no obligation to turn it over.



As for Ford the media stopped covering her but that doesn't mean it just went away as if it were some story conjured up. But as I said it is past the statute of limitations so really she did all she can do. That doesn't indicate some conspiracy or anything.

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1389 on: March 08, 2019, 09:23:29 PM »
Not necessarily. If the evidence isn't relevant to what Mueller was investigating then he would have no obligation to turn it over.



As for Ford the media stopped covering her but that doesn't mean it just went away as if it were some story conjured up. But as I said it is past the statute of limitations so really she did all she can do. That doesn't indicate some conspiracy or anything.
You mean Mueller would not pursue anything not Russia related and charge anyone?

Try and find what Ford is doing now. Last i checked she was remodeling her home with the paritial gofundme $1,000,000 that she received. Has she hired an attorney to pursue any case against Kav? Like how the 6 Clinton accussors have?  Or like how that Cory kid has been trying for years to prove he was and many others molsteded as a child by hollywood elite? Where is Ford?

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #1390 on: March 09, 2019, 10:42:19 PM »
You mean Mueller would not pursue anything not Russia related and charge anyone?

Try and find what Ford is doing now. Last i checked she was remodeling her home with the paritial gofundme $1,000,000 that she received. Has she hired an attorney to pursue any case against Kav? Like how the 6 Clinton accussors have?  Or like how that Cory kid has been trying for years to prove he was and many others molsteded as a child by hollywood elite? Where is Ford?

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If Mueller came across evidence that Trump did something else he would be obligated to pursue it or hand it to another agency to pursue but what I was getting at is that an agreement between Mueller and Cohen was likely for evidence pertaining to a specific type of crimes. Now of course I haven't read the details of the crime but I doubt the agreement simply stated that Cohen must tell Mueller about any crime Trump ever committed. The other aspect is that Cohen could have evidence of something that is not criminal and thus really wouldn't concern Mueller. He might have some evidence of a civil nature or evidence to something about Trump's character.

Again, she has no case against Kavanaugh, it is past the statute of limitations so there would be no reason to hire an attorney. But her not being in the news isn't evidence of anything, the story ran its course, there is nothing more to keep reporting on, unless maybe you want TMZ type coverage.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1391 on: March 10, 2019, 04:29:33 PM »
How Leftist-Democrat-Progressive-NeoCon Trump-haters look each time they go after Trump ...


The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1392 on: March 10, 2019, 08:32:28 PM »
If Mueller came across evidence that Trump did something else he would be obligated to pursue it or hand it to another agency to pursue but what I was getting at is that an agreement between Mueller and Cohen was likely for evidence pertaining to a specific type of crimes. Now of course I haven't read the details of the crime but I doubt the agreement simply stated that Cohen must tell Mueller about any crime Trump ever committed. The other aspect is that Cohen could have evidence of something that is not criminal and thus really wouldn't concern Mueller. He might have some evidence of a civil nature or evidence to something about Trump's character.

Again, she has no case against Kavanaugh, it is past the statute of limitations so there would be no reason to hire an attorney. But her not being in the news isn't evidence of anything, the story ran its course, there is nothing more to keep reporting on, unless maybe you want TMZ type coverage.
I know exactlly what Ford is doing (research). And there is only 1 reason why the fake news doesnt talk about her anymore. Nor is she pursuing any type or suit on Kav or protest for other "victims" to come forward and be heard for all sex assault.

Now this is 100% speculation, but if Cohen did provide anything of worth to Mueller, then he would not be on TV at all. Mueller would have him be in the shadows. IMO.

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changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1393 on: March 11, 2019, 06:49:12 PM »
Interesting some whistleblowers are posting on social media "im not sucidal, nor have any health conditions, and avoid risky behaivor". #sethrich

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1394 on: March 11, 2019, 06:54:23 PM »
Manufactured.

National.

Emergency.




 :wacko:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1395 on: March 11, 2019, 08:07:29 PM »
Pelosi saying impeachment of 45 is a waste of time.

Someone has something on her...indictments coming soon?

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #1396 on: March 12, 2019, 09:43:50 PM »
2016 video shows Michael Cohen lied to Congress about
not wanting a Trump administration job


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2016-video-suggests-michael-cohen-lied-about-not-wanting-a-job-with-the-trump-administration

That really wouldn't fly for a perjury charge though

eyeeatingfish

Re: Trump
« Reply #1397 on: March 12, 2019, 09:48:33 PM »
I know exactlly what Ford is doing (research). And there is only 1 reason why the fake news doesnt talk about her anymore. Nor is she pursuing any type or suit on Kav or protest for other "victims" to come forward and be heard for all sex assault.


Have you realized that maybe she isn't pursuing a suit against Kavanaugh BECAUSE SHE CAN"T? Even if the statute of limitations allowed stand she just decided she didn't want to go through with it that doesn't prove anything. You are drawing conclusions about her that cannot be concluded, they are just assumptions at best.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Trump
« Reply #1398 on: March 12, 2019, 11:35:28 PM »
That really wouldn't fly for a perjury charge though

That's an opinion.

Please explain.  Making an untrue statement of fact to Congress is the very definition of perjury.

"To prove perjury, you must show that someone intentionally lied under oath."

And the committee members who referred Cohen to the DOJ for additional counts of perjury included that specific lie.

They wouldn't include it in the referral if they didn't think it was applicable.

Cohen was asking about a WH job through many people, and he's ON VIDEO say he expected to be offered a job there, since he was "The President's Lawyer".  He lied to Congress saying he never sought a job under the President.

A lie is a lie. Does Perjury have another meaning?
« Last Edit: March 14, 2019, 12:41:09 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Trump
« Reply #1399 on: March 14, 2019, 12:23:21 PM »
That's an opinion.

Please explain.  Making an untrue statement of fact to Congress is the very definition of perjury.

"To prove perjury, you must show that someone intentionally lied under oath."

And the committee members who referred Cohen to the DOJ for additional counts of perjury included that specific lie.

They wouldn't include it in the referral if they didn't think it wasn't applicable.

Cohen was asking about a WH job through many people, and he's ON VIDEO say he expected to be offered a job there, since he was "The President's Lawyer".  He lied to Congress saying he never sought a job under the President.

A lie is a lie. Does Perjury have another meaning?

Cohen is in with the DNC now, so any new perjury would not be pursed as part of his deal to bash Trump.