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Gun Clubs => Hawaii Defense Foundation => Topic started by: 2aHawaii on July 22, 2012, 03:59:55 AM

Title: HDF Range Days
Post by: 2aHawaii on July 22, 2012, 03:59:55 AM
Next range day is 27 July 2013.

Link to the event is here:

http://www.eventbrite.com/event/7111632083/efbevent (http://www.eventbrite.com/event/7111632083/efbevent)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 22, 2012, 04:57:36 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirsh on July 25, 2012, 12:37:10 PM
Is that just for the safety class to get a permit to acquire?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 25, 2012, 03:44:38 PM
Is that just for the safety class to get a permit to acquire?

Negative.   That is just kind of "fun shoot" days for HDF members.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: mongoose on July 25, 2012, 06:27:37 PM
Just joined! Can you give me some info on Range Day? What will we be doing? How much ammo to bring?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirsh on July 25, 2012, 07:04:34 PM
Just joined! Can you give me some info on Range Day? What will we be doing? How much ammo to bring?

x2
just joined too
Title: HDF Range Days
Post by: hnl.flyboy on July 25, 2012, 08:36:00 PM
I hope my membership could be backdated to my donation :/
Title: HDF Range Days
Post by: mongoose on July 27, 2012, 06:30:11 PM
Does anyone have information about HDF's Range Days? What do they do? How long does it last? What guns are shot?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: bass monkey on July 27, 2012, 06:46:40 PM
You shoot your own guns I believe. So you need a holster and ammo.
Should also get there early to help setup and take down after.
Should bring all PPE for shooting as well. They go over different shooting drills.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: urdust on July 27, 2012, 08:28:57 PM
Also mag holster and Wear pants u might get dirty
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: back2back on July 28, 2012, 06:51:51 AM
its okay.  nothing high speed.  just hope you do not have to do any crossfit.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 28, 2012, 10:21:31 AM
Also mag holster and Wear pants u might get dirty

Belt, Pants, closed toe shoes, eyes and ears all required.

mag holster is definitely a great idea.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: mongoose on July 28, 2012, 09:49:31 PM
One gun? Ammo count? Cost? 7:45am at the action bays?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirsh on August 08, 2012, 11:54:52 PM
Can we get more info on the range day?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: urdust on September 02, 2012, 07:11:30 PM
Had some fun in the sun today :geekdanc:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on September 04, 2012, 10:39:33 PM
Had some fun in the sun today :geekdanc:

Glad you enjoyed it!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: urdust on September 05, 2012, 08:59:02 AM
Glad you enjoyed it!
Every time  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Lifer on December 28, 2012, 08:24:35 PM
Still a range day on 30 DEC?

I finally have time to go, but not a lot of ammo...
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: mongoose on December 28, 2012, 09:08:32 PM
What discipline are you working on this time?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: WTF?Shane on December 29, 2012, 01:07:24 AM
Still a range day on 30 DEC?

I finally have time to go, but not a lot of ammo...

Saw the update on Facebook. I can't make up my mind on which guns to bring. See you guys on Sunday!

What discipline are you working on this time?

Last I heard, Chris said it was going to be a fun shoot. He mentioned balloons and stuff. Funtimes?
Title: HDF Range Days
Post by: sirkaiks on December 29, 2012, 01:50:48 PM
Saw the update on Facebook. I can't make up my mind on which guns to bring. See you guys on Sunday!

Last I heard, Chris said it was going to be a fun shoot. He mentioned balloons and stuff. Funtimes?
bring um all shane! it's new year's eve eve!!!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Kingkeoni on December 29, 2012, 09:14:30 PM
What discipline are you working on this time?

Crane style
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Izanagi on December 31, 2012, 12:23:01 AM
Crane style

Call Crane technique.  If done right, no can defense.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: new guy on December 31, 2012, 08:09:58 AM
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on January 01, 2013, 08:10:39 AM
Saw the update on Facebook. I can't make up my mind on which guns to bring. See you guys on Sunday!

Last I heard, Chris said it was going to be a fun shoot. He mentioned balloons and stuff. Funtimes?

Sorry was busy and didn't see this topic.   It was everything :P
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: hnl.flyboy on January 07, 2013, 10:49:49 PM
Need to start an HDF TOP SHOT and have Daniel Oshima and Chris Baker compete to see who is the best shot and pistol instructor on the island.  It should be sponsored by LIFE! I would pay money to see that event and so would the rest of die hard tactical paper killers out there! These guys are truly awesome, and switched on as warriors/operators. :worship:

I'd throw a few bucks to watch too  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on January 07, 2013, 11:19:56 PM
Need to start an HDF TOP SHOT and have Daniel Oshima and Chris Baker compete to see who is the best shot and pistol instructor on the island.  It should be sponsored by LIFE! I would pay money to see that event and so would the rest of die hard tactical paper killers out there! These guys are truly awesome, and switched on as warriors/operators. :worship:

Costa/GreyGroup/SIGSAUR Instructor vs GABE Suarez/25 years in the firearms industry.  We need to start a poll gents to see who is the ultimate warrior Hawaii an style.  Oh lets not forget Master Bob Smith as well.  These warrior are that, warriors! Master Smith could serve as the referee.  GO HOT!  ;)

You can talk crap all you want about me, but I have been able to provide people some sort of outlet for training that was previously non-existent here.   I don't come out to profess anything, or do anything special; no have I *ever* claimed to be some sort of operator, soldier, warrior, or anything other than some random ass Navy Haole who likes to shoot.  We come out to have fun, learn new skills, and see our weaknesses. 

So are you talking shit about me, or just saying this in jest?

Maybe it's late and I'm taking your comments out of context, but it really does seem like the former and not the latter.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on January 07, 2013, 11:30:10 PM
Range Days are posted for the first half of 2013.

First one up is in February because I will be out of town for most of Jan.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Kingkeoni on January 08, 2013, 03:25:35 AM
You can talk crap all you want about me, but I have been able to provide people some sort of outlet for training that was previously non-existent here.   I don't come out to profess anything, or do anything special; no have I *ever* claimed to be some sort of operator, soldier, warrior, or anything other than some random ass Navy Haole who likes to shoot.  We come out to have fun, learn new skills, and see our weaknesses. 

So are you talking shit about me, or just saying this in jest?

Maybe it's late and I'm taking your comments out of context, but it really does seem like the former and not the latter.

I think he actually wants to see a "shoot out" of two people that like to shoot.

I don't think he's talking crap.

You know how you have the "I wonder who would win if Mike Tyson fought Muhammad Ali" conversations.

I like competition and love to shoot against good shooters. I know you do too.

I don't know the guy who posted the comments and don't know his intentions in posting them but... I do wish there would be a "top shot" type competition in Hawaii.
How cool would that be?

On a lighter note, Funtimes has introduced a lot of new people to the wonderful world of shooting over these last couple of years who might never have got involved.

Got to give the man props for that.

Dan on the other hand, does his best to be involved in training and shooting sports. Even though he has to cross his fingers every time he checks no the "mental problem" section of form 4473.  :rofl:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: mongoose on January 08, 2013, 07:35:42 AM
What will you be working on this time?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: hvybarrels on January 08, 2013, 10:53:31 AM
Dan on the other hand, does his best to be involved in training and shooting sports. Even though he has to cross his fingers every time he checks no the "mental problem" section of form 4473.  :rofl:

He's got some strong opinions alright, but I admire his dedication.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Teichi on January 08, 2013, 11:38:44 AM
I think he actually wants to see a "shoot out" of two people that like to shoot.

I don't think he's talking crap.

You know how you have the "I wonder who would win if Mike Tyson fought Muhammad Ali" conversations.

I like competition and love to shoot against good shooters. I know you do too.

I don't know the guy who posted the comments and don't know his intentions in posting them but... I do wish there would be a "top shot" type competition in Hawaii.
How cool would that be?

On a lighter note, Funtimes has introduced a lot of new people to the wonderful world of shooting over these last couple of years who might never have got involved.

Got to give the man props for that.

Dan on the other hand, does his best to be involved in training and shooting sports. Even though he has to cross his fingers every time he checks no the "mental problem" section of form 4473.  :rofl:


8 October 2000 was supposed to be the first of the Annual Top Gun Shooting Competitions at Koko Head. It included Skeet, 3 Gun Western, Action Pistol, Bullseye Pistol, High Power Rifle, Smallbore Silhouette, and Archery. Many clubs participated in hosting the different stages and KGS (Daniel) had organized the event. It was a lot of work and everyone had a lot of fun. The Top Gun competition whithered over the years due to lack of support.

I'd like to know if there is interest in reviving this event. Many shooters don't want to leave leave the "comfort zone" of their favorite styles or equipment.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: hnl.flyboy on January 08, 2013, 02:27:32 PM
8 October 2000 was supposed to be the first of the Annual Top Gun Shooting Competitions at Koko Head. It included Skeet, 3 Gun Western, Action Pistol, Bullseye Pistol, High Power Rifle, Smallbore Silhouette, and Archery. Many clubs participated in hosting the different stages and KGS (Daniel) had organized the event. It was a lot of work and everyone had a lot of fun. The Top Gun competition whithered over the years due to lack of support.

I'd like to know if there is interest in reviving this event. Many shooters don't want to leave leave the "comfort zone" of their favorite styles or equipment.

Wow, 2000!  I was waaaaay too young to own a gun back then...I'd be interested in stuff like that if certain guns were available for rent.  I know a lot of other people can't afford to buy one of each gun just for a yearly competition.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Teichi on January 08, 2013, 03:57:03 PM
Wow, 2000!  I was waaaaay too young to own a gun back then...I'd be interested in stuff like that if certain guns were available for rent.  I know a lot of other people can't afford to buy one of each gun just for a yearly competition.
The beauty of the event was that guns and ammo were donated for the event. Every competitor shot the same guns in a round robin fashion. No one was allowed to adjust the sights or optics. Everyone used the same ammo.

The variable of the better equipment was taken away and Shooters relied on the skills that they carried with them up to the firing line anfter the mandated safety brief.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: hnl.flyboy on January 08, 2013, 04:15:39 PM
The beauty of the event was that guns and ammo were donated for the event. Every competitor shot the same guns in a round robin fashion. No one was allowed to adjust the sights or optics. Everyone used the same ammo.

The variable of the better equipment was taken away and Shooters relied on the skills that they carried with them up to the firing line anfter the mandated safety brief.

WOW!  Anyone else interested??
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: bass monkey on January 08, 2013, 04:23:33 PM
I'm interested.  Got a lot more to learn but interested for sure.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Teichi on January 09, 2013, 07:53:16 AM
By the overwhelming responses in the interest in this event, I declare hnl.flyboy Grand Champion and Bass Monkey second place.

HDF range days don't seem to be a venue for competitive shooting matches. 
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: ren on January 09, 2013, 09:03:48 AM
I participated once then stopped when I saw who was running it.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: hnl.flyboy on January 09, 2013, 12:02:41 PM
By the overwhelming responses in the interest in this event, I declare hnl.flyboy Grand Champion and Bass Monkey second place.

HDF range days don't seem to be a venue for competitive shooting matches.

 :rofl:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: drck1000 on May 22, 2013, 10:42:23 AM
I see a HDF Range day is scheduled for this Saturday.  Any preview of what will be covered?  Handgun?  Carbine?  Just trying to get an idea of what's planned.  Even after 4 days of shooting this past weekend, still have an itch to shoot.   ;D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on May 23, 2013, 12:12:45 AM
I see a HDF Range day is scheduled for this Saturday.  Any preview of what will be covered?  Handgun?  Carbine?  Just trying to get an idea of what's planned.  Even after 4 days of shooting this past weekend, still have an itch to shoot.   ;D

Probably a few more rounds of handgun.  Prices on Rifle ammunition are coming back to regular prices, so probably like two more months and we will run a rifle range day.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: drck1000 on May 23, 2013, 04:56:13 AM
Probably a few more rounds of handgun.  Prices on Rifle ammunition are coming back to regular prices, so probably like two more months and we will run a rifle range day.
Nice!  How much of each would you recommend bringing?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Kingkeoni on May 24, 2013, 09:21:54 PM
Probably a few more rounds of handgun.  Prices on Rifle ammunition are coming back to regular prices, so probably like two more months and we will run a rifle range day.

I can bring a few cases and sell rifle ammo out the back of my SUV
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on May 25, 2013, 06:33:03 AM
Nice!  How much of each would you recommend bringing?


Most people are probably using five - six boxes?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on May 25, 2013, 05:48:13 PM
So yeah people are definitely not used to someone shooting a slidefire stock lol.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: DWCOOPER on May 27, 2013, 07:45:18 PM
So yeah people are definitely not used to someone shooting a slidefire stock lol.

Wow, you can use thoughts  in Hawaii?  Who'd have though a way around getting a CLASS III imitation on the island!  It must have been fun.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: OldFaithful on May 27, 2013, 08:36:05 PM
So yeah people are definitely not used to someone shooting a slidefire stock lol.

Haha share what happened!!!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on May 27, 2013, 10:28:51 PM
Wow, you can use thoughts  in Hawaii?  Who'd have though a way around getting a CLASS III imitation on the island!  It must have been fun.

Slidefire stocks are semi-automatic lol.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fstbckgt on May 28, 2013, 12:28:52 AM
Wow, you can use thoughts  in Hawaii?  Who'd have though a way around getting a CLASS III imitation on the island!  It must have been fun.
Time to Google bump fire
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: djsmiles808 on June 29, 2013, 12:40:42 PM
whens the next range day?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on June 29, 2013, 02:23:48 PM
whens the next range day?
i think chris said july 27th check out the website to be sure though i dont want to be responsible for you missing a epic day at the range like i had on the last one... damn it should be like that every fricken day. Of course you woundnt have a home because of ammo you gonna shoot.  But that should be my choice if iwanna be homeless with a card board safe for my guns!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: djsmiles808 on June 29, 2013, 02:34:49 PM
what to bring? need to know what i gotta buy equipment wise. holsters slings etc
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on June 29, 2013, 05:11:23 PM
what to bring? need to know what i gotta buy equipment wise. holsters slings etc

I highly recommend high-speed gear's taco magazine pouches (they sell at Security Equipment).  As far as holsters go, G-Code, Raven Concealment,safariland, and bladetech are some of the ones I like.

You need at least two magazines (five recommended), and associated holter / magazine pouches for your gun.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: MantisClaw on June 29, 2013, 05:19:55 PM
Posting this so Funtimes doesn't have to. :D


Quote from: Hawaii Defense Foundation
Looking to continue your firearms education after your basic pistol course?  Join Hawaii Defense Foundation July 27th for our monthly range day down at the Koko Head Shooting Complex action bays.  We offer free training to members catering to both basic to advanced shooters as well as providing a time to you to run your firearm according to your needs.

July 27 - Range Day (http://www.hawaiidefensefoundation.org/event/07-27-13-range-day/)

Location:
Koko Head Shooting Complex
Action Bay #1
8102 Kalanianaole Highway
Honolulu, HI, 96825, United States

Schedule:

Intermediate Level Training:
8:00am – 12:00pm

Here we provide instruction to our more experienced members.  With the price of ammunition beginning to stabilize we are reintroducing rifles back into the syllabus.  Previous training events include:  Offhand shooting/malfunction drills, barricade drills and engagement of moving targets.

Free Shoot and Beginner Instruction:
12:00pm – 3:00pm

This is when we open up the range to our members to train at their own pace.  This is also when we take to time to work with our newer members to cover such basics as drawing from holster and fundamentals of marksmanship.

Requirements:
HDF Membership
Participation in a training event of some kind (Basic handgun safety course counts)
Eye and ear protection
Closed toed shoes
Long pants
Belt

Recommended:
Firearm with Holster
Magazine Pouches
Lunch and enough water to keep you hydrated

If you’re still waiting on your permit to acquire or haven’t fully decided on your first purchase you can still participate.  We are experimenting with a ‘Try Before You Buy’ program where you may rent firearms and holsters from HDF for a slight fee or for free if you provide your own ammunition.  Please contact us if you would like to take advantage of this opportunity as this must be coordinated well in advance.

If you have any questions, please contact info@thehdf.org.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: branz1029 on July 06, 2013, 01:58:45 AM
cant wait to join HDF!!!! sounds like alot of fun
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Mr. Farknocker on July 06, 2013, 08:31:53 PM
What about ammo?  Are factory rounds required or can handloads be used?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: MantisClaw on July 06, 2013, 09:04:04 PM
I've seen reloads used at the fun shoots with no issues.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 06, 2013, 10:05:44 PM
What about ammo?  Are factory rounds required or can handloads be used?

I'm not concerned with what you use, just please know wtf you are doing.  If it's a new load... test it first.  No reason to use some crazy +p crazy shit for target shooting though! :-)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: djsmiles808 on July 06, 2013, 11:02:21 PM
So for noobies we come at 12? Is 22lr allowed? 
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 06, 2013, 11:08:52 PM
So for noobies we come at 12? Is 22lr allowed?

Yes. And, Yes!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: MantisClaw on July 06, 2013, 11:12:05 PM
So for noobies we come at 12? Is 22lr allowed? 
I used .22lr almost exclusively for my first few range days until I had something in .223 :D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: SpeedTek on July 07, 2013, 02:32:58 AM
Can I use a BB Gun?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Dregs on July 07, 2013, 08:49:59 AM
All I have is a blowgun I picked up at da flea market.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 07, 2013, 08:56:53 AM
All I have is a blowgun I picked up at da flea market.

Your gun blows
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Post by: Q on July 19, 2013, 03:26:12 AM
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 20, 2013, 12:48:52 PM
Signup for the next range day! Let me know you are coming:

27 JULY 2013

http://www.eventbrite.com/event/7111632083/efbevent (http://www.eventbrite.com/event/7111632083/efbevent)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Dregs on July 20, 2013, 03:32:33 PM
And bring a tarp! And stay for the clean up!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: WTF?Shane on July 20, 2013, 03:52:01 PM
Signup for the next range day! Let me know you are coming:

27 JULY 2013

http://www.eventbrite.com/event/7111632083/efbevent (http://www.eventbrite.com/event/7111632083/efbevent)

Is this a mandatory or voluntary sign up? Do we need to show up with the tickets to attend?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: ImKu on July 20, 2013, 05:16:33 PM
HDF Range Day. 
"Due to the rising cost of ammunition, this event day will be a focus on handgun principals. Please bring as many magazines as possible.  We apologize for having a lack of rifle, but most people cannot afford to spend a few hundred dollars on a fun shoot day."

Is this correct?  I was just excited about incorporating rifle into the mix.


-Side question for funtimes, when you receive contributions to HDF via the Amazon link do you know where it comes from and what percentage you receive from the purchase?  I ask cuz I have purchased things on Amazon using the link for awhile now and was just wondering.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 20, 2013, 06:30:48 PM
Is this a mandatory or voluntary sign up? Do we need to show up with the tickets to attend?

I'm just liking to get an idea of who is coming.  That way I know what to plan for...  You do not need tickets, I just appreciate if people sign up.   Putting it on eventbrite also allows me to toss it up on the website / facebook events as well.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 20, 2013, 06:31:15 PM
HDF Range Day. 
"Due to the rising cost of ammunition, this event day will be a focus on handgun principals. Please bring as many magazines as possible.  We apologize for having a lack of rifle, but most people cannot afford to spend a few hundred dollars on a fun shoot day."

Is this correct?  I was just excited about incorporating rifle into the mix.


-Side question for funtimes, when you receive contributions to HDF via the Amazon link do you know where it comes from and what percentage you receive from the purchase?  I ask cuz I have purchased things on Amazon using the link for awhile now and was just wondering.

We *WILL* be doing rifle this next range day.
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on July 21, 2013, 12:09:03 AM
We *WILL* be doing rifle this next range day.

Yay! 

What's the tarp for?  What else needed either individually or for the club/foundation?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 21, 2013, 12:59:40 AM
Yay! 

What's the tarp for?  What else needed either individually or for the club/foundation?

Bring what you like.  We don't provide much in terms of water etc, so bring extra :D  :shaka:.   What is usually needed are people to help setup and take down.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: ImKu on July 21, 2013, 07:46:04 AM
Bring what you like.  We don't provide much in terms of water etc, so bring extra :D  :shaka:.   What is usually needed are people to help setup and take down.

What  time do you start setting up?  I'll help with that.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on July 22, 2013, 12:36:25 PM
Yea funtimes told you this ones gonna be a busy one! :geekdanc: wheres that eventbright link at?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on July 22, 2013, 12:39:51 PM
Nevermind found it ------> first name "dirty" last name "lickins" hahaha
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: aieahound on July 22, 2013, 01:19:43 PM
Do we need proof of membership ?

I'm now a proud member.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on July 22, 2013, 01:37:38 PM
Do we need proof of membership ?

I'm now a proud member.

Yeah!!!  You'll get stuff in the mail soon :D  I got driving duties next.  It'll be just like h.s. with no a/c :D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 22, 2013, 02:48:35 PM
What  time do you start setting up?  I'll help with that.

For this one, I'm going to try to be there at 7:15.. would like to be going hot at 8:00 a.m.

People really need to try to be there early, I know a few people cannot do so because they have to come from work or something but yeah we need more people in the morning.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on July 22, 2013, 04:03:42 PM
yeah, some of us work in the mornings
i'll be there next month in the afternoon
ordered my holster and mag carriers this afternoon

where do we sign up for hdf?
i'm guessing i need to check the website http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/thumbsup.gif (http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/thumbsup.gif)

i'm bummed i'm missing out next week, but i have a family reunion on the mainland
have fun for me, guys
http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/shake.gif (http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/shake.gif)

For this one, I'm going to try to be there at 7:15.. would like to be going hot at 8:00 a.m.

People really need to try to be there early, I know a few people cannot do so because they have to come from work or something but yeah we need more people in the morning.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on July 22, 2013, 04:27:48 PM
will you guys be running rifles this saturday?  i have a pistol but i do not have a holster yet but ordered it so i won't be able to run my pistol.  i do have all the materials if i were to run my rifle tho. just wondering because i'm very interested in joining asap. thanks in advance.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: WTF?Shane on July 22, 2013, 05:08:11 PM
will you guys be running rifles this saturday?  i have a pistol but i do not have a holster yet but ordered it so i won't be able to run my pistol.  i do have all the materials if i were to run my rifle tho. just wondering because i'm very interested in joining asap. thanks in advance.

PM Funtimes. He might be able to hook you up with some holsters. Glock 17, correct?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on July 22, 2013, 05:10:54 PM
chris said yes, rifles will be a GO this month

will you guys be running rifles this saturday?  i have a pistol but i do not have a holster yet but ordered it so i won't be able to run my pistol.  i do have all the materials if i were to run my rifle tho. just wondering because i'm very interested in joining asap. thanks in advance.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on July 22, 2013, 07:04:24 PM
will you guys be running rifles this saturday?  i have a pistol but i do not have a holster yet but ordered it so i won't be able to run my pistol.  i do have all the materials if i were to run my rifle tho. just wondering because i'm very interested in joining asap. thanks in advance.
worst case senario after the class at 12 noon is open shoot so come anyways.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: WTF?Shane on July 22, 2013, 07:09:41 PM
A lot of hype for this month's range day. I'm ready to make some noise.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on July 22, 2013, 07:18:13 PM
PM Funtimes. He might be able to hook you up with some holsters. Glock 17, correct?

yes bro. thanks again for hooking it up with the mags. couldn't find them anywhere. now i gotta find some for my g22 haha
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on July 22, 2013, 07:19:18 PM
worst case senario after the class at 12 noon is open shoot so come anyways.

will do. excited to finally shoot my guns fully loaded. i hope we can load them up 30 rnds right?
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on July 22, 2013, 09:09:13 PM
So what's the deal if we can't make it to the morning portion? Can we still at 12?
yes say Dirtylickins sent you
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Post by: Q on July 22, 2013, 09:16:38 PM
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: OldFaithful on July 22, 2013, 10:27:47 PM
Brah I have work Saturday and then school classes on Saturday mornings until next summer  :( need some gear anyway though
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 22, 2013, 10:46:26 PM
I'm almost positive I got a few G17 holsters.   I got someone using a G19, but I also just got a new raven ACR holster for a G19.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on July 23, 2013, 01:15:33 AM
:worship:
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: DesertRangerTycho on July 23, 2013, 09:38:25 PM
I'm almost positive I got a few G17 holsters.   I got someone using a G19, but I also just got a new raven ACR holster for a G19.

Hi!  Just signed up for Saturday.  I am a noob to the group.  Is there an equipment list and ammo count anywhere?  Happy to help set up Saturday.  I think it said 7AM... is that correct?  Mahalo!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 23, 2013, 09:49:38 PM
Hi!  Just signed up for Saturday.  I am a noob to the group.  Is there an equipment list and ammo count anywhere?  Happy to help set up Saturday.  I think it said 7AM... is that correct?  Mahalo!

Just as a reminder, morning time should be for the intermediate level shooters +   You should have and understand how to safely  draw and engage from the holster; 3-5 magazines is preferred, magazine holder is required, pants, belt, closed toe shoes, eye and ear protection, water.  I generally say you would be good with 300+ rounds. 
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on July 23, 2013, 09:57:13 PM
Hi!  Just signed up for Saturday.  I am a noob to the group.  Is there an equipment list and ammo count anywhere?  Happy to help set up Saturday.  I think it said 7AM... is that correct?  Mahalo!
yes sir think like 7:15 but yea 7 ish. as for equipment lets see;
I highly recommend high-speed gear's taco magazine pouches (they sell at Security Equipment).  As far as holsters go, G-Code, Raven Concealment,safariland, and bladetech are some of the ones I like.

You need at least two magazines (five recommended), and associated holster / magazine pouches for your gun.
Most people are probably using five - six boxes.
haha funtimes beat me to it while I was collecting info from his previous posts.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 23, 2013, 11:34:04 PM
I highly recommend high-speed gear's taco magazine pouches (they sell at Security Equipment).  As far as holsters go, G-Code, Raven Concealment,safariland, and bladetech are some of the ones I like.

For those looking at gear, I highly agree with these above -- especially that taco magazine pouches (they own!).
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: drck1000 on July 24, 2013, 12:08:46 AM
Just as a reminder, morning time should be for the intermediate level shooters +   You should have and understand how to safely  draw and engage from the holster; 3-5 magazines is preferred, magazine holder is required, pants, belt, closed toe shoes, eye and ear protection, water.  I generally say you would be good with 300+ rounds.
300+ rounds total? If so, what approx break down for rifle and pistol?

I'm still trying to make it out Saturday. Looks about 50/50 right now.
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: OldFaithful on July 24, 2013, 12:57:58 AM
300 rounds of 7.62x54r would be very interesting indeed  >:D

Not for your shoulder  :shake:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on July 24, 2013, 07:55:17 AM
300+ rounds total? If so, what approx break down for rifle and pistol?

I'm still trying to make it out Saturday. Looks about 50/50 right now.
if i had to say it would be 100 rifle and 200 pistol or 200 rilfle 200 pistol  on the plus side. Well thats what im bringing at least :wacko:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: drck1000 on July 24, 2013, 08:09:37 AM
if i had to say it would be 100 rifle and 200 pistol or 200 rilfle 200 pistol  on the plus side. Well thats what im bringing at least :wacko:
That sounds managable.  I really want to go.  With SRGC running less and less these days, I have been lacking good trigger time. 

Were you the one that was interested in holsters for battle belts?  If end up being able to make it this Saturday, I can bring both my HSGI SGPB and USGG setups.  Also, if anyone needs a holster and or mag pouches for a Glock 17, I have lots of extras.  However, if I am able to make it, I will likely have to leave in the middle of the afternoon session. 
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: aieahound on July 24, 2013, 10:42:22 AM
So can us noobs come after noon ?

Might still come in the morning just to watch and learn.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on July 24, 2013, 10:45:30 AM
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Post by: Aiea78 on July 24, 2013, 10:48:36 AM
What are the range rules?  Ok to holster up in the lot or ? 
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 24, 2013, 02:57:11 PM
What are the range rules?  Ok to holster up in the lot or ?

We will have the tables out on the berm side of the range.


I'd be expecting 200+ rifle 100 or so pistol.   I never shoot everything I bring, but I'm planning on about 300 / 200.   If you are coming in the afternoon, then yeah 3-4 boxes of pistol would be good for you.

Of course, you can shoot freaking 2,000 rounds if you want =p it's all up to you.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on July 24, 2013, 04:03:24 PM
Cool cool :)  Some classes it's totally not about the amount fired at all but learning the commands and motions and drills and stuff.  Since new to HDF I want it all from step 1 - works for you and me!  :) 

I would like to try out the slidefire later lol  
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on July 24, 2013, 06:16:23 PM
That sounds managable.  I really want to go.  With SRGC running less and less these days, I have been lacking good trigger time. 

Were you the one that was interested in holsters for battle belts?  If end up being able to make it this Saturday, I can bring both my HSGI SGPB and USGG setups.  Also, if anyone needs a holster and or mag pouches for a Glock 17, I have lots of extras.  However, if I am able to make it, I will likely have to leave in the middle of the afternoon session.

do you have a setup with a glock17 for a battle belt? if yes, would you be able to let me borrow please?  i'm planning to run a battle belt this saturday just dont have my holster yet.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on July 24, 2013, 06:21:14 PM
btw, do we have to bring our own target and target frames?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: MantisClaw on July 24, 2013, 06:24:23 PM
btw, do we have to bring our own target and target frames?

All that is provided though help setting up and taking down is appreciated  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: DesertRangerTycho on July 24, 2013, 06:27:48 PM
Just as a reminder, morning time should be for the intermediate level shooters +   You should have and understand how to safely  draw and engage from the holster; 3-5 magazines is preferred, magazine holder is required, pants, belt, closed toe shoes, eye and ear protection, water.  I generally say you would be good with 300+ rounds.

Great!  Thanks for the 411.  Are drop leg holsters ok? Happy to watch and learn.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on July 24, 2013, 06:52:07 PM
All that is provided though help setting up and taking down is appreciated  :thumbsup:

i wont be able to help in the morning but i can help cleaning up after. i work till 1230 but will ask my boss to leave around 11ish.

and if anyone would help a fellow shooter out and lend me a g17 holster that would be much appreciated. if no can thats all good. i wouldn't mind just running my rifle if thats okay with the trainer.
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on July 26, 2013, 06:19:09 AM
What's this deal about pants....real operators live fire in slippers and ranger panties.

In either case, I'm feeling very tom cruise-ish, so I'm wearing my flight suit over my tactical mankini.
thank you i for one greatly appreciate the covering of your ranger panties or mankini .... i mean I would be ok cause i  am mentally focused  but for the others their focus might suffer  to inquire as to where to obtain such tactical garments in the middle of training.... so thanks in advance  :wacko:
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Jl808 on July 26, 2013, 08:38:36 AM
Thanks for the list.  I'm gonna have to attend one of these events sometime.  Just that right now, there's too many regular weekend activities conflicting.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Jl808 on July 26, 2013, 08:38:56 AM
Nothing distracts the enemy more during a firefight than a bright green mankini.
LOL
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Dregs on July 26, 2013, 04:19:49 PM
I'll see you guys there =O)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on July 26, 2013, 07:29:40 PM
I'll see you guys there =O)
apparently the color sequence is green mankini
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: moosed on July 26, 2013, 09:15:20 PM
We could always change it to yellow banana hammock.

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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: moosed on July 26, 2013, 09:22:58 PM


Geraldo?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on July 27, 2013, 01:38:03 AM
AWKward :oops:
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: djsmiles808 on July 27, 2013, 03:05:51 AM
AWKward :oops:
aca akward lol
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 27, 2013, 03:58:20 AM
Holy shit I just finished reloading .223 -- fml !!!
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: pantyhamster on July 27, 2013, 11:36:10 AM
I might spare you my tactical mankini this time; apparently this Flossie storm is building power, and we need to prep before it gets here.

Your green rectal floss mankini would be appropriate with storm Flossie coming. :rofl:
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: ImKu on July 27, 2013, 01:06:39 PM
Why do you think I can't make it today! Gotta tactically prepare my wardrobe for sexy miss Flossie.

She thinks she is gonna rock my world; she has no idea what I have in store for her.

Anyway, let me know how the range day is going so I can 2nd hand off everyone else's happiness while I trench my house.

I  had to leave early,  but definitely enjoyed myself.   Great crowd, really mellow.   Thx to Funtimes and HDF  they made my weekend a  good one.  Morning consisted of malfunction and transitioning/moving drills.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on July 27, 2013, 01:42:00 PM
ahhhhh A/C!  :D

Hey ImKu - we was shooting right next to each other!  Totally fun day.  Jetted home to meet the wife and guess what she brought food so it's time to grind.   But I want to say MAHALO again to Dan for the range hot dog and fixins - totally needed to eat something.

Ok BRB
ps.  Best of Luck Chris!!!  We won't let you go that easy though and even if you do we'll get you back to visit at least.  That for sure we throw down for.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on July 27, 2013, 02:24:30 PM
Only got a few pics but here goes.

"Loading!"
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on July 27, 2013, 02:27:15 PM
the range & loading station.  very convenient both have their own berm for safety!   :shaka:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on July 27, 2013, 02:28:10 PM
Got to get me a war belt too some day!
(I was wearing mesh briefs btw lol)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on July 27, 2013, 02:32:27 PM
Great day at the range with HDF.   Disarming to leave was pretty sad but the view going out made it a little better.

Looking forward to seeing everyone again at the next one!   'Till then fill up the tanks and batten down the hatches (floozie Flossie on the way)

Aloha
 :)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: ImKu on July 27, 2013, 02:33:59 PM
Hey ImKu - we was shooting right next to each other! 

Ahhh, so you were my "partner" for the drills.  Good times  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on July 27, 2013, 02:38:24 PM
Ahhh, so you were my "partner" for the drills.  Good times  :thumbsup:

lucky you left when you did.  we had to do error laps and pushups!  I'll do better next time, promise.  doh!
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: flaboy808 on July 27, 2013, 03:19:53 PM
Chris is leaving?

Yup, if he gets the job in Cali.  Selfishly speaking, I hope you don't get it but I'm sure we all understand you have to live your life too.  Sad to see you go IF you go.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: flaboy808 on July 27, 2013, 03:21:08 PM
Got to get me a war belt too some day!
(I was wearing mesh briefs btw lol)

I didn't have one either.  Maybe we were the only 2 without a war belt. I had to use my JC penny belt. LOL
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on July 27, 2013, 03:27:06 PM
lucky you left when you did.  we had to do error laps and pushups!  I'll do better next time, promise.  doh!
thanks for the work out exercise 78  ill be you partner anytime the push ups make me look sexy :rofl
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 27, 2013, 04:36:38 PM
Wow....that blows.

Best wishes for him; will be a hard man to replace.


We will see.  I've just finished up some interviews that came my way at the Federal Bureau of Prisons. I may have an opportunity to return to federal service (adding to my 10 years of military service), work as  LEO, and get to learn how to do it in a really shitty place =-p (USP Atwater). 

I don't know if it will happen, but it's something my family and I are really have to think long and hard about.  Some serious potential for me in terms of retirement, salary, benefits etc. if I move back to Federal Work.
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: drck1000 on July 27, 2013, 04:45:42 PM
Got to get me a war belt too some day!
(I was wearing mesh briefs btw lol)
Taking pics of my gear?  Haha

My leg looks fat in this angle. Must've been the light. Lol
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: drck1000 on July 27, 2013, 04:47:01 PM
thanks for the work out exercise 78  ill be you partner anytime the push ups make me look sexy :rofl
Nice meeting you! Good times out there.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: AmbuBadger on July 27, 2013, 05:59:00 PM
Nice meeting you and thanks for having us (my cousin and I) out there, Chris. I was the guy with the dachshund on my shirt with "I put pictures of my wiener on the internet" written on it. It was great to be able to pattern our shotguns, gotta say, I love the Federal FliteControl stuff! Hoping to see you out there more, but best of luck with the career move if you do get it. Sh!tty that it's Cali though, lousy gun laws... but I'll "hold" on to all your stuff if you want!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on July 27, 2013, 07:50:41 PM
Will hdf ever do a shotgun day?

Hey chris I interviewed for the prison on the cali Nevada reno border forget what it was called a few years back.  They were in the process of getting me ready go to training in VA.  Then the fed gov cut all new hriring at the time.  What prison you trying to get into?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on July 27, 2013, 08:42:46 PM
Nice meeting you! Good times out there.
same here ROCK. We will do it again soon :shaka:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: AmbuBadger on July 27, 2013, 08:43:49 PM
Will hdf ever do a shotgun day?

^^This. I would love to do some more run & gun stuff with my 930 & 590. My 590 is my go-to gun for HD, and I want to run her some more. Also, it was good fun to use my black powder .44!

These are the groups from 7 yards, if anyone is interested; Mossberg 930 with Improved Cylinder and 22" barrel on the left, and Remmy 870 with 18.5" cylinder bore on the right. From top to bottom as follows: Federal 00 buck, low-reoil with Flite Control wadding; Remington #4 buck; Winchester 00 buck (that stuff from Sports Authority). I had similar results with my M590 in the past.
(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj61/InfernoGmbH/930_zps6dfeb8da.jpg) (http://s269.photobucket.com/user/InfernoGmbH/media/930_zps6dfeb8da.jpg.html)(http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj61/InfernoGmbH/870_zpsf20e7259.jpg) (http://s269.photobucket.com/user/InfernoGmbH/media/870_zpsf20e7259.jpg.html)
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Post by: Aiea78 on July 27, 2013, 09:43:49 PM
Nice patterns AmbuBadger! 
There was a gal there shooting pics too so I hope to see more.

Congrats to P.r. for making the diamond shot :D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 27, 2013, 11:44:55 PM
Will hdf ever do a shotgun day?

Hey chris I interviewed for the prison on the cali Nevada reno border forget what it was called a few years back.  They were in the process of getting me ready go to training in VA.  Then the fed gov cut all new hriring at the time.  What prison you trying to get into?

USP Atwater. It's located in Atwater, CA, which is about two hours east of San Francisco.   It's a town of about 30,000, so nothing special.   The facility has a fairly high turn over rate and people seem to regard it as one of the more dangerous policies (although some places blame that on leadership and policies, vs the really the prisoners).   That said, the prison is a penitentiary, so there are the people who are there for life or other extended sentences with nothing else to live for.
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: AmbuBadger on July 28, 2013, 09:06:04 AM
USP Atwater. It's located in Atwater, CA, which is about two hours east of San Francisco.   It's a town of about 30,000, so nothing special.   The facility has a fairly high turn over rate and people seem to regard it as one of the more dangerous policies (although some places blame that on leadership and policies, vs the really the prisoners).   That said, the prison is a penitentiary, so there are the people who are there for life or other extended sentences with nothing else to live for.

Atwater... sounds nice. Doesn't sound as nice as Twenty-nine Palms, that place sounds like it must be a resort town! You'd think everyone would be fighting to get stationed there!  :rofl:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on July 28, 2013, 11:00:18 PM
hey, nobody brought a tarp!  you still got me guessing too.  only thing I can guess is to lay out to collect brass easier?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: sirkaiks on July 29, 2013, 07:14:50 PM
I didn't have one either.  Maybe we were the only 2 without a war belt. I had to use my JC penny belt. LOL
Lol... That was the first time i busted out my belt... I had a black magic shirt on. Can't go wrong with hsgi battle belt and taco mag pouches.  :shaka:
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on July 29, 2013, 08:49:00 PM
I guess I wouldn't have looked like a total tard if I showed up with my 7.62x54r bandolier belt.  :rofl:
the bandolier belt no .... green mankini yes. :rofl:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on July 29, 2013, 09:36:36 PM


We will see.  I've just finished up some interviews that came my way at the Federal Bureau of Prisons. I may have an opportunity to return to federal service (adding to my 10 years of military service), work as  LEO, and get to learn how to do it in a really shitty place =-p (USP Atwater). 

I don't know if it will happen, but it's something my family and I are really have to think long and hard about.  Some serious potential for me in terms of retirement, salary, benefits etc. if I move back to Federal Work.

I looked at my records it was Herlong and Atwater backup...good luck buddy I wish I got in before the funding was dropped
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 31, 2013, 12:20:16 PM
I looked at my records it was Herlong and Atwater backup...good luck buddy I wish I got in before the funding was dropped

Got a conditional offer today. Have to fill out the background paperwork.  Pretty sure, and I am hoping that I do, I have my previous background check paperwork that I was filling out to go work for homeland security; that, or I should have the stuff I filled out for my previous clearance.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: flaboy808 on July 31, 2013, 01:27:31 PM
Got a conditional offer today. Have to fill out the background paperwork.  Pretty sure, and I am hoping that I do, I have my previous background check paperwork that I was filling out to go work for homeland security; that, or I should have the stuff I filled out for my previous clearance.

No more HDF Range Days?   :wacko:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on July 31, 2013, 01:46:25 PM
Taking pics of my gear?  Haha

My leg looks fat in this angle. Must've been the light. Lol

I like the dump pouch too.  Lots of wide war belts with the lumbar support.  I just found a regular thin style in my pile of stuff, coulda' sworn I had their piggyback pistol+rifle mag pouches but no just singles.  Stuck a cheapie drop leg on it to try.  So much gear I tell you.

Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on July 31, 2013, 01:48:39 PM
No more HDF Range Days?   :wacko:

(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4714934579364599&pid=1.7)
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: flaboy808 on July 31, 2013, 01:58:04 PM
(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4714934579364599&pid=1.7)
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Thank you for volunteering Aiea78.   :D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: drck1000 on July 31, 2013, 02:31:31 PM
I like the dump pouch too.  Lots of wide war belts with the lumbar support.  I just found a regular thin style in my pile of stuff, coulda' sworn I had their piggyback pistol+rifle mag pouches but no just singles.  Stuck a cheapie drop leg on it to try.  So much gear I tell you.
I actually prefer the lighter USGG Contractor belt setup that I have, but I don't like the holster that I have for that one that can accommodate my Glock 17 with X300.  The holster I have for that one is a drop leg holster and I don't like the strap on my thigh.  I could use the drop attachment for the USGG belt, but it rotates some with I use the Safariland holster.  The USGG Contractor's belt works fine if I don't have to use the holster that fits the X300. 

The good thing about the HSGI belt is that you can throw it over clothing.  The USGG Contractor's belt goes directly on your waist.  I've taken a few classes in Alaska and the HSGI was perfect to fit over layers of warmer clothing and rain gear. 

As dirtylickins and I were discussing the last range day, that's what the range days are for.  To try different set ups and to see what others have and ask them the pros and cons.  Some set ups look like they would work well and only to find out that the don't work quite that well once you start shooting, moving, transitioning, etc. 
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: new guy on July 31, 2013, 03:01:08 PM
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on July 31, 2013, 03:42:49 PM
Thank you for volunteering Aiea78.   :D

New drills.

http://youtu.be/_qzATF8R1XE (http://youtu.be/_qzATF8R1XE)
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: flaboy808 on July 31, 2013, 04:32:02 PM
Can we get another volunteer please?    :o


New drills.

http://youtu.be/_qzATF8R1XE (http://youtu.be/_qzATF8R1XE)


Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: flaboy808 on July 31, 2013, 04:35:33 PM
If anyone tried that shit with me, they would get a type 53 bayonet in the nut sack.


I don't think you'd get the job after that Q.   ;D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 31, 2013, 04:59:49 PM
If anyone tried that shit with me, they would get a type 53 bayonet in the nut sack.

I'm fairly certain the only difference between some of that and regular training would be he would shoot a few more feet away from the student lol.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on July 31, 2013, 05:09:22 PM
Can we get another volunteer please?    :o





Ok ok.  We shall review the flashbang holster up close.  Now about those volunteers ;)

http://youtu.be/h8r6CY5UZyw (http://youtu.be/h8r6CY5UZyw)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 31, 2013, 05:10:56 PM
So yeah this all kind of new to me, and it's only a few hours old.  I've already gone to talk to some people to see what we can continue to do etc.


I know you have not made any final decision, yet, but I have to ask a few (somewhat selfish) questions:

Will HDF continue to exist, if you depart?

Yes, but not in the full capacity that it is right now.  For instance, losing the primary instructor that has been teaching for over two years puts a damper on some gun safety course aspect of the operations.   Legal operations will likely continue through the current case with no more filed in the future.  We could probably continue training if a certified instructor wanted to do that, but I would have to find one who is serious about doing so.   The goal is to continue range days.  This will require volunteers to make it happen, a few people will have to step up to the plate to say that they can give one day every few months or so to run the stuff.


Also, if you leave the State of Hawaii and become a citizen of another state, would your moving residence out of the State of Hawaii affect your appeal before the Ninth Circuit? 
In the general sense, no.  The record is currently set for our stage and can't really be altered.  We still need an opinion from the 9th circuit, and then appeals (from whatever sides are going to appeal).   It's going to run two ways - win or lose.   If you win, then it doesn't matter - we win.  If we lose, then we plan to appeal to SCOTUS; my thoughts are if all (3) 9th circuit cases lose, then there is no real hope in this circuit anymore.   Any lower judge will be bound by the higher courts decision and it will be immediate rubber stamp - no matter the reason.

Regardless, best of luck on your decision!  :shaka:

This is one of the heaviest decisions I have had to make personally - period.  My wife is giving up her family, and I'm giving up a significant amount too if we pursue this.  It's not just HDF but also I'm having to stop and shut down my own company that I have grown for two years, which is paying the bills right now, add in grad school programs that we are in right now, our dogs, family members, hdf, friends, gun stuff... it's a tough bite.

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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: flaboy808 on July 31, 2013, 05:26:05 PM
Ok ok.  We shall review the flashbang holster up close.  Now about those volunteers ;)

http://youtu.be/h8r6CY5UZyw (http://youtu.be/h8r6CY5UZyw)

I think HDF Range Days would be crowded with a volunteer like her.  No offense Chris.   :rofl:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 31, 2013, 05:48:36 PM
Last guy that tried some stuff like that on one of our qual range got laid out.

Fortunately, the 1st Sgt thought it was hilarious to see Mr. D-bag go falling like a ton of bricks, so the guy got lucky and had to fill onlly 200 sandbags.  :rofl:

Yeah but training for PSC is quite different than most military training.  I bet if that was going on with a team or ACE/SFOD etc. it might not even get a bat of an eye lol.   I wonder what company that guy is with?  His accent definitely sounded foreign, so I was thinking israel?  I've looked at some of the Israeli executive protection schools - they seem like you could die there lol.

I'm not saying that's what is going on here, as it looks fairly reckless, but if it was indeed like blackwater quality PMC - then well I wouldn't say I'm surprised.
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: AmbuBadger on July 31, 2013, 11:22:41 PM
Liability-wise, what would anyone looking to volunteer to run the range days have to contend with? Insurance?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on July 31, 2013, 11:32:35 PM
Liability-wise, what would anyone looking to volunteer to run the range days have to contend with? Insurance?

Liability is provided by HDF (1 million general / 2 million professional) coverage for the club.  What we would likely do is setup a match fee to cover cost for the instructor, insurance, and targets / wood.

The entity itself would continue, and I would continue to work on the admin stuff.  I just can't be at the range in a physical sense if I leave.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: AmbuBadger on August 01, 2013, 11:36:16 AM
So you just need bodies to staff the bay and setup, or at least it sounds like that. I could do a few days, would love to just for the chance to run my gear on something other than metal piglets at fifty yards. I also work as a paramedic, so I could be there in that capacity as well...
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: ACADEMI on August 01, 2013, 06:34:13 PM
Liability is provided by HDF (1 million general / 2 million professional) coverage for the club.  What we would likely do is setup a match fee to cover cost for the instructor, insurance, and targets / wood.

The entity itself would continue, and I would continue to work on the admin stuff.  I just can't be at the range in a physical sense if I leave.
YO! brother Funtimes, Dirtylickins told me about this, and my homie 2wedge also. I would gladly sign up and donate wood and targets.  :shaka:

send me the details of specific targets, wood, and other materials that might be useful. thanks.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on August 01, 2013, 09:59:11 PM
I'm in...volunteer myself.  these days are way to valuable to stop. Especially here on this ball crunching state.
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: ACADEMI on August 02, 2013, 12:08:12 AM
what kind of drills do you guys run? tactical response, active shooter, preasure and troubleshooting drills? ive seen the pics and talks on this thread and im kind of getting interested .... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on August 07, 2013, 10:52:21 AM
can someone who went last month please post a review, so those of us who haven't been know what to expect, and to pique people's interest?

what kind of drills do you guys run? tactical response, active shooter, preasure and troubleshooting drills? ive seen the pics and talks on this thread and im kind of getting interested .... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on August 07, 2013, 02:17:37 PM
Can I attend if I've only shot at a life range day?  I haven't taken the hdf class.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on August 07, 2013, 11:46:05 PM
can someone who went last month please post a review, so those of us who haven't been know what to expect, and to pique people's interest?
i went had my game face on... my partners  on the team drills missed the target well i proly missed too, we did pushups for every miss and ran some laps also good to get the heart rate up... then we shot more  fricken awsome day at range i dont know why everybody dont show up cause its awsome!!!! No really it is... well at least i have fun Haha  :popcorn: mac its me and you buddy on the next one :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on August 07, 2013, 11:52:25 PM
alls you need to be is an HDF member

Can I attend if I've only shot at a life range day?  I haven't taken the hdf class.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on August 07, 2013, 11:55:40 PM
you don't want to be on my team if it's rifle drills
i gots ta test run my new sights before da range day too or else i'll be doing lots of pushups and laps

i went had my game face on... my partners  on the team drills missed the target well i proly missed too, we did pushups for every miss and ran some laps also good to get the heart rate up... then we shot more  fricken awsome day at range i dont know why everybody dont show up cause its awsome!!!! No really it is... well at least i have fun Haha  :popcorn: mac its me and you buddy on the next one :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on August 08, 2013, 02:52:53 AM
can someone who went last month please post a review, so those of us who haven't been know what to expect, and to pique people's interest?


I might not remember all and get the order of events wrong but it was practical drills.  The day was split into 2 parts - first session for intermediate and second after 12 noon session for newer shooters.  You should be well practiced with safe weapon handling and proficient with your firearms as the AM session goes quickly.  Seeing everyone belt up beforehand, replete with numerous mag holsters and slung rifles, should tell you much already. 

We warmed up with rifle first from close range.  Then there was a mag change drill - fire 2 to empty, reload and fire 2 more.  It was fun as was an elimination drill until only two were left at the line and we (the 2 Tongs) shot it out 'till there was one (where's my t-shirt Chris :D )   Another drill was transitioning to secondary - fire rifle then backup pistol.  I liked that one a lot.  Lots of different targets to make things interesting including a hostage + bad guy, which some had more fun shooting the hostage, I know I did a couple times LOL.  More various drills including a paired team firing, moving off line then re-engaging the target, backing each other up to reload etc.  Good stuff.

The precision drills is where the pushups and laps came in regarding errors.  Ok so I totally didn't understand the drill so center massed most till the light went on!  Doh. Too late and everyone suffered at the end, e kala mai.  But if this old slightly broken guy can go then you can too.  Heck I will do the exercises if even didn't have to now that I know what's going on.  But the real point is accuracy on target. 

We approached noon so the range opened up to non drill firing.  I tried out some CQB draw firing but with varying success as further from target than ideal for that but it was good to practice live.  Shot at pieces of stuff dancing them around the berm.  Shot some kneeling to standing. The sound of other's rapid fire was awesome - HDF range day!

Not every range day will be the same.  For example hnl.flyboy successfully performed trick shooting using reflected image off a diamond ring!  Just don't see that every day now do ya?  :D

My advice is have your gear squared away.  Have a sturdy belt, holster for pistol (OWB at 9 or 3 best here so you don't flag anyone), rifle, many mags and a sling.  Got a vest or carrier?  Try it out.  Bring water.  There was a long line of tables to gear up but do not go hot yet- that is only allowed at the line and firearms are unloaded before leaving the line each time.  No one is breathing down your neck so that one is easy to miss thinking you're at home or whatever.  I violated it as well but caught myself and walked back up the berm to unload and didn't do it again.  My EoTech battery ran dry so was using irons most of the day.  Run what you brung and be ready to deal with equipment failures it's all part of learning and surviving afterall.

Had to leave so couldn't stay for the second session but will stay next time!  It was the saddest thing to unbelt and put gear away to go I tell you.  I hope you have as much fun as I did and take away much valuable lessons and practice time.  HDF is a great non-competitive venue and we are lucky to have these range days.  Looking forward to the next one!






Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: ImKu on August 08, 2013, 05:31:00 AM
you don't want to be on my team if it's rifle drills
i gots ta test run my new sights before da range day too or else i'll be doing lots of pushups and laps

I do.  I like the idea of doing laps and pushups then resuming the training.  I usually shoot in the shade without breathing hard.  Trying to say on target while breathing hard is...fun  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on August 08, 2013, 09:41:35 PM
Oh man 78 you are one damn good writer and also very thorough on the itinerary. ... bravo :shaka: I feel bad now I was just being a smart ass when I wrote mine.  >:D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on August 08, 2013, 10:51:54 PM
Oh man 78 you are one damn good writer and also very thorough on the itinerary. ... bravo :shaka: I feel bad now I was just being a smart ass when I wrote mine.  >:D

That's what us old futs do best!  Sit around talk story, yell at the tv, read alternate news media and write diatribes ;)  Wait until the next version I get to tell all da usual suspects at the beach.  By then it will be all big bore calibers you can barely hang onto, hot chix loading our mags for us and all kine matrix like action drills :D
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on August 23, 2013, 12:32:16 PM
range day still happening this 31?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on August 23, 2013, 01:33:54 PM
range day still happening this 31?

Yes sir!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on August 23, 2013, 01:56:53 PM
Yes sir!

shoots. finally getting my holster for my glock and now i can attend range days.  just gotta sign up now.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Kuleana on August 25, 2013, 02:29:04 PM
Aloha Chris,

Are we still having range day next week Saturday (8/31)?

If so, which platform are we going to practice this time?   (Hint-Hint: More Rifle)   ;)


Mahalo,

Kuleana
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on August 25, 2013, 09:55:44 PM
Aloha Chris,

Are we still having range day next week Saturday (8/31)?

If so, which platform are we going to practice this time?   (Hint-Hint: More Rifle)   ;)


Mahalo,

Kuleana

One hand pistol operation / shooting from seated positions.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: WTF?Shane on August 25, 2013, 09:59:50 PM
Sounds like fun!

http://youtu.be/3w-nxSK1FU4 (http://youtu.be/3w-nxSK1FU4)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Kuleana on August 26, 2013, 07:01:39 AM
One hand pistol operation / shooting from seated positions.

Awesome!

Mahalo Chris!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on August 26, 2013, 07:21:52 AM
just a reminder
bring plenty of fluids
at the hra/life funshoot, i drank at least 3 bottles of gatorade, 2 bottles of water, and 3 diet pepsis and i was still dehydrated

Awesome!

Mahalo Chris!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on August 26, 2013, 07:22:41 AM
and sunscreen too
i had on a longsleeve shirt, but the backs of my hands are sunburnt

just a reminder
bring plenty of fluids
at the hra/life funshoot, i drank at least 3 bottles of gatorade, 2 bottles of water, and 3 diet pepsis and i was still dehydrated
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Kingkeoni on August 26, 2013, 07:35:44 AM
and sunscreen too
i had on a longsleeve shirt, but the backs of my hands are sunburnt

When I was younger we would play a game where we slapped the backs of each others hands.

When you'd slap someone up a lot and their hands were all red, we'd say "ooooh, sunburn"
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on August 26, 2013, 07:59:30 AM
and there were at least 4 people that took me up on the offer of water or gatorade since i had a half full cooler
i can't believe they were gonna be there the whole day without liquids

i'll bring a full cooler on saturday

just a reminder
bring plenty of fluids
at the hra/life funshoot, i drank at least 3 bottles of gatorade, 2 bottles of water, and 3 diet pepsis and i was still dehydrated
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on August 26, 2013, 04:58:27 PM
Sounds like fun!

http://youtu.be/3w-nxSK1FU4 (http://youtu.be/3w-nxSK1FU4)

hey shane, is that a go pro? if so, how'd you mount it to your hat? planning to rock mines this saturday too.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: WTF?Shane on August 26, 2013, 06:23:47 PM
hey shane, is that a go pro? if so, how'd you mount it to your hat? planning to rock mines this saturday too.

Contour mounted on the headband of my earmuffs.
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on August 27, 2013, 12:29:36 PM
Free range gonna be limited to pistol or open to long arms as well?

Not sure if Joe got my 9x18 makarov or 7.62 Tokarev in yet, so I don't know if I can run a pistol.

In the afternoon it's whatever you want that is legal and safe :)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Lifer on August 27, 2013, 01:23:36 PM
I'm in.

Also word of warning to those that attend; your pistol will get maimed and scuffed up.

Nothing like working your pistol slide ON/ALONG the ground. :shake:.  Its not for the faint of heart or safe queens.

I had a great time last iteration and look forward to SAT.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on August 27, 2013, 06:10:53 PM
any recommended clothing attire? knee pads, shoes...etc
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Lifer on August 27, 2013, 08:04:23 PM
any recommended clothing attire? knee pads, shoes...etc

Ear and eye pro

Hat
T shirt, long sleeve good idea. If short sleeve, sunscreen
Long pants WITH belt
Close toed shoes, no slippas!
Gloves, your call
Knee pads, your call (not really needed)
Camelbak, your call

Pistol holster
Mag holder

Just wear something comfortable and that you can maneuver in. I've seen everything from jeans, to shorts( not recommended) to Docker slacks, to 5-11 pants. It's all good.

Lots of water/ Gatorade, etc
Snacks
If you are there all day it's hot as hell and you get hungry/thirsty.

Lots of ammo

I usually also give a donation to Chris and the HDF Warchest



Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on August 27, 2013, 08:41:10 PM
Aw man my cousin and family flying in for her wedding this weekend so only outside chance for me.  Who knows.  The gun "abuse" sounds fun and sure beats throwing it down the driveway :D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: WTF?Shane on August 27, 2013, 09:21:41 PM
Not really abuse, more like improvising or adapting to the situation and circumstances. IDK...
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Kanakamaoli23 on August 27, 2013, 10:01:02 PM
this would be the perfect opportunity to use the g17 i just bought off consignment because im not too worried about getting it scuffed up.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on August 28, 2013, 01:02:28 AM
Not really abuse, more like improvising or adapting to the situation and circumstances. IDK...

Trust me I think this is an excellent training idea, it's not a perfect world!  Also a good reason to buy 2 of whatever gun floats your boat if you'd like to keep one pristine (plus 2 is 1, 1 is none anyways :D ).
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: WTF?Shane on August 28, 2013, 09:38:10 AM
I'm bringing my FNX-45 Tactical if anyone wants to look at it and/or try it out during the free shoot. I'm contemplating selling it. It's a great gun but just doesn't feel right for me.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on August 28, 2013, 09:47:43 AM
shane, does it have a red dot mounted?

I'm bringing my FNX-45 Tactical if anyone wants to look at it and/or try it out during the free shoot. I'm contemplating selling it. It's a great gun but just doesn't feel right for me.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: WTF?Shane on August 28, 2013, 10:33:00 AM
shane, does it have a red dot mounted?

Trijicon RM04
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on August 28, 2013, 10:40:21 AM
nice
i'd like to check it out
see you saturday, man

Trijicon RM04
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: WTF?Shane on August 29, 2013, 12:12:33 AM
Anyone want to show up as armchair operators? Thinking of bringing a plate carrier and chest rig setup just for the hell of it. I might even bring my bump helmet.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on September 16, 2013, 12:36:05 AM
Anyone want to show up as armchair operators? Thinking of bringing a plate carrier and chest rig setup just for the hell of it. I might even bring my bump helmet.

Sounds good though but not to stand in one spot.  What kind of drills we talking about here? 
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: thebadness on September 19, 2013, 01:01:55 PM
So who has taken over organizing HDF range days now that Funtimes is off island?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on September 19, 2013, 01:10:19 PM
Dirtylickins

So who has taken over organizing HDF range days now that Funtimes is off island?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: K30l4 on September 19, 2013, 06:39:36 PM
Dirtylickins

Hooray!
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on September 19, 2013, 08:07:17 PM
Next hdf day will be pistols for sure... training plan for that day is going to be exciting!
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on September 19, 2013, 08:30:02 PM
still haven't recovered from the combo of crossfit and moving all of chris' shit down 4 flights of stairs and up 1
http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/evil.gif (http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/evil.gif)

Eh mac,

You gonna run your new steel this next range day? A few weeks of wearing that and you won't need crossfit anymore  :geekdanc: :rofl:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on September 19, 2013, 08:31:46 PM
whenever training is pau, the open range begins
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Still open range after 12?
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: flaboy808 on September 20, 2013, 12:18:43 AM
still haven't recovered from the combo of crossfit and moving all of chris' shit down 4 flights of stairs and up 1
>:D (http://>:D)

Good thing you got there late.  :D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on September 22, 2013, 12:19:41 PM
Alright everyone hdf range day is in a week Saturday September 28th @8 am... we have some good drills utilizing pistols only on this one. So I suggest stocking up on those ammo for that day. All I can say is it should be a exciting and insightful day not to mention the fun factor! Let us know if you intent to show up on Saturday.  :shaka: no chris but the hdf still goes on!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on September 22, 2013, 01:23:05 PM
i'll be there after lunch
ran into fatpanda and skinnypanda right before closing at ogc/mojo
they regretfully cannot make it

Alright everyone hdf range day is in a week Saturday September 28th @8 am... we have some good drills utilizing pistols only on this one. So I suggest stocking up on those ammo for that day. All I can say is it should be a exciting and insightful day not to mention the fun factor! Let us know if you intent to show up on Saturday.  :shaka: no chris but the hdf still goes on!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: sliver on September 22, 2013, 02:11:14 PM
Alright everyone hdf range day is in a week Saturday September 28th @8 am... we have some good drills utilizing pistols only on this one. So I suggest stocking up on those ammo for that day. All I can say is it should be a exciting and insightful day not to mention the fun factor! Let us know if you intent to show up on Saturday.  :shaka: no chris but the hdf still goes on!


so hdf range days still go on?  who do we tell if we want to come?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on September 22, 2013, 03:03:24 PM
post it here or pm dirtylickins
looks like the eventbrite thingy on hdf website is expired


so hdf range days still go on?  who do we tell if we want to come?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Ricky808maui on September 23, 2013, 08:28:15 PM
Can I join.  this will be my first time..... I've been hoarding ammo. time to shoot some
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on September 23, 2013, 08:46:25 PM
post it here or pm dirtylickins
looks like the eventbrite thingy on hdf website is expired

Fixed for all events till 2013.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on September 23, 2013, 08:46:46 PM
are you an hdf member?

if not, join here
http://www.hawaiidefensefoundation.org/join/membership/ (http://www.hawaiidefensefoundation.org/join/membership/)

and then RSVP on this thread
then show up
we plan to start at 8 am, but need help setting up
after the structured class, it will be open range time until around 4
please help clean up if you can, don't leave the instructors to clean up

bring lots of mags and ammo, holster and mag carriers
food, water/drinks, sunscreen, etc
read through this thread for more details

looking forward to seeing you there

i will be rolling in around 1
look for the balding guy in all khaki

Can I join.  this will be my first time..... I've been hoarding ammo. time to shoot some
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: AmbuBadger on September 23, 2013, 09:22:55 PM
I'll be there as well, for the first half.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Ricky808maui on September 23, 2013, 11:15:13 PM
Yes Im a hdf member. Gonna be shooting my favorite handgun sig 226 scorpion . Also gonna shoot some new guns, fnx tactical and xds 9.... Sucks just bought the xds and recall already
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on September 24, 2013, 04:32:29 PM
cool, see you there

anyone else planning on going?

Yes Im a hdf member. Gonna be shooting my favorite handgun sig 226 scorpion . Also gonna shoot some new guns, fnx tactical and xds 9.... Sucks just bought the xds and recall already
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on September 24, 2013, 04:35:20 PM
hey dirty
can you post an expected round count for the training session so people know how much to bring?

i will be rolling in around 1 pm for the fun shoot, but i think it would help others know for planning purposes

Alright everyone hdf range day is in a week Saturday September 28th @8 am... we have some good drills utilizing pistols only on this one. So I suggest stocking up on those ammo for that day. All I can say is it should be a exciting and insightful day not to mention the fun factor! Let us know if you intent to show up on Saturday.  :shaka: no chris but the hdf still goes on!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Lifer on September 24, 2013, 05:44:51 PM
I'm in. Will try to get there at 0800 or earlier to help set up.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on September 24, 2013, 07:10:07 PM
As for round count i'm thinking 250 or so
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on September 24, 2013, 07:26:36 PM
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I'm in. Will try to get there at 0800 or earlier to help set up.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Kuleana on September 24, 2013, 07:27:06 PM
Hi Gang,  Count me in.  I'll try to be there at 8 AM.

Kuleana
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on September 27, 2013, 01:57:52 PM
anyone else?
looking forward to seeing everyone tomorrow

Hi Gang,  Count me in.  I'll try to be there at 8 AM.

Kuleana
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: WTF?Shane on September 27, 2013, 02:37:04 PM
I'll be attending.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: ajm008 on September 27, 2013, 06:59:01 PM
Im in as long a WGS has the Ammo i need...
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: hop2it on September 27, 2013, 08:06:26 PM
I thought human like targets were not allowed at Kokohead range? I saw some neat videos from the HDF on You Tube, were shooters were engaging moving targets and shooting from stationary vehicles.

Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: hop2it on September 27, 2013, 08:07:02 PM
UNBEREIVABLE!

When are you going to practice this one DirtyLickens?

http://youtu.be/PFxn0Dv3tHA (http://youtu.be/PFxn0Dv3tHA)

So AWESOME!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on September 27, 2013, 08:23:16 PM
Planning on the afternoon session & clean up.

hop2it the action bays are separate from the bullseye ranges. 
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: hop2it on September 27, 2013, 09:22:15 PM
Oh, I see.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on September 27, 2013, 09:40:08 PM
mahalo, 78
we can use as much help as we can get cleaning up

Planning on the afternoon session & clean up.

hop2it the action bays are separate from the bullseye ranges.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on September 27, 2013, 10:45:32 PM
Nobody said why to bring a tarp last time still!   Need?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on September 27, 2013, 10:51:09 PM
i know HRA/LIFE uses the tarps to catch brass and make cleanup easier

Nobody said why to bring a tarp last time still!   Need?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on September 28, 2013, 12:12:34 AM
i know HRA/LIFE uses the tarps to catch brass and make cleanup easier


that was my guess.  So HDF needs tarps - I got one for donation ready! 

Now all you early session guys go to bed it's getting freaking late.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on September 28, 2013, 12:31:24 AM
UNBEREIVABLE!

When are you going to practice this one DirtyLickens?

http://youtu.be/PFxn0Dv3tHA (http://youtu.be/PFxn0Dv3tHA)
funny you ask Q because if you observe the target stands you will see that we practice that frequently as reference to the pile of stands in pieces. So to answer you question we will be doing it tomorrow.  Thank you and come again.  :shaka:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on September 28, 2013, 12:36:02 AM
that was my guess.  So HDF needs tarps - I got one for donation ready! 

Now all you early session guys go to bed it's getting freaking late.
phil no need we can just pick up like we do because we do to much movement drills a tarp would be dangerous. Someone could trip and fall
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: MantisClaw on September 28, 2013, 12:44:09 AM
I'll be there as always.

Feeling sick so may not run all the drills but will try to help with setup and clean up.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on September 28, 2013, 04:45:35 AM
hope you feel ok, mantis
see you tomorrow

I'll be there as always.

Feeling sick so may not run all the drills but will try to help with setup and clean up.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: ajm008 on September 28, 2013, 07:05:07 PM
Good times today... was nice breaking in both new guns!!! Looking forward to carbine next month!!!  :shaka:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on September 28, 2013, 10:07:49 PM
Good times today... was nice breaking in both new guns!!! Looking forward to carbine next month!!!  :shaka:
roger .... it was a good day next month should be a blast! Nice to meet you today.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: WTF?Shane on September 28, 2013, 10:22:56 PM
Definitely looking forward to the next range day.  :geekdanc:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on September 28, 2013, 10:34:30 PM
Pics!
(as always LMK if want to remove any)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on September 28, 2013, 10:35:29 PM
 :D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on September 28, 2013, 10:36:27 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on September 28, 2013, 10:37:24 PM
 :D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on September 28, 2013, 10:38:23 PM
 :D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on September 28, 2013, 10:50:43 PM
Left Side Team Sweep the Leg Shutdown Smackaround and Victory High Fives  :shaka:
Target going down - good fun!
update: hmmm, maybe shoulda' renamed this one the Weavers vs. the Isoceles :p
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on September 29, 2013, 12:36:57 AM
run by photo bomb by Sterling Jr.  ;D  First he wasn't there, then he was, then he was gone again!  LOL
yes we have fun at the range!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: new guy on September 29, 2013, 01:28:15 AM
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Lifer on September 29, 2013, 08:27:22 AM
It was a great range day.

Special thanks to Dirtylickins, Henry and Kanoa for a well ran range. HDF didn't skip a beat!

 :thumbsup: :shaka:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: AmbuBadger on September 29, 2013, 10:44:15 AM
Had fun, looking forward to that carbine course next month! Time to start reloading some .223!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Lifer on September 29, 2013, 11:05:20 AM
Had fun, looking forward to that carbine course next month! Time to start reloading some .223!

Props to you too AmbuBadger. Your knowledge and participation in the HDF shoots are awesome! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on September 29, 2013, 11:07:02 AM
hey lifer
mahalos for letting me fire a few rounds through your HK45
problem is, now i want to buy one
http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/evil.gif (http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/evil.gif)

Props to you too AmbuBadger. Your knowledge and participation in the HDF shoots are awesome! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on September 29, 2013, 02:29:48 PM
run by photo bomb by Sterling Jr.  ;D  First he wasn't there, then he was, then he was gone again!  LOL
yes we have fun at the range!
thanks phil great pictures the little loved it!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: JHanawahine on September 29, 2013, 08:51:47 PM
Had a good time.looking forward to next month.Nice to put faces to Sn's  :shaka:
Title: .
Post by: Q on September 30, 2013, 02:15:38 AM
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on September 30, 2013, 05:25:54 PM
Had fun, looking forward to that carbine course next month! Time to start reloading some .223!

:D


http://youtu.be/sDtbk8sZXbg (http://youtu.be/sDtbk8sZXbg)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: JHanawahine on September 30, 2013, 06:07:37 PM
Eh you Pahkah! I didn't know you joined.  :thumbsup: :shaka: :shaka: :geekdanc:
last month  :shaka:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: AmbuBadger on September 30, 2013, 08:53:10 PM
:D


http://youtu.be/sDtbk8sZXbg (http://youtu.be/sDtbk8sZXbg)

I think that is a realistic scenario, and we should train for it.
Title: .
Post by: Q on September 30, 2013, 09:18:08 PM
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on October 01, 2013, 01:09:44 AM
How about some Katana weilding onolicious action!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

http://youtu.be/_YRI2KaeefI (http://youtu.be/_YRI2KaeefI)

/faints

moral of the story is you never know who you messing with, or, an armed society is a polite society.
Title: .
Post by: Q on October 01, 2013, 02:10:41 AM
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on October 01, 2013, 03:00:58 AM
Actually, I was hoping the moral would be, "Don't try and be a dumbass and use a katana in a gun fight".  :geekdanc:

pretty sure that guy knows that and just demonstrating skills!
Title: .
Post by: Q on October 01, 2013, 10:09:23 AM
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Jl808 on October 01, 2013, 04:43:49 PM
Was that video in fast forward?  He twitches like it is... Wow!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on October 01, 2013, 11:59:44 PM
I think that is a realistic scenario, and we should train for it.

:D

I know it's asking a lot but how would you all feel about this more real world training scenario together?  I mean, if some day we actually get CCW we'd be ahead of the game.  FF to 8:15 to bypass product intro if pressed for time.

http://youtu.be/j1mvHZIQu7s (http://youtu.be/j1mvHZIQu7s)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on October 02, 2013, 06:08:32 PM
no Travis fans?  shocked I tell you.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: AmbuBadger on October 02, 2013, 06:16:54 PM
:D

I know it's asking a lot but how would you all feel about this more real world training scenario together?  I mean, if some day we actually get CCW we'd be ahead of the game.  FF to 8:15 to bypass product intro if pressed for time.

http://youtu.be/j1mvHZIQu7s (http://youtu.be/j1mvHZIQu7s)

There was a guy two shoots back who had either a Makarov or CZ82, he was drawing from inside the waistband, under his shirt. He took longer to get his shots off, but realistically speaking, that would be the ideal way to train. If there's ever a SHTF scenario where there is no law, most of us probably wouldn't advertise our sidearm to others, so drawing from concealed carry is practical. I don't think there will be bands of roving ronin with katana for us to deal with, but I can see myself having to shoot someone with a Bear Grylls machete from Sports Authority...
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on October 02, 2013, 07:00:51 PM
There was a guy two shoots back who had either a Makarov or CZ82, he was drawing from inside the waistband, under his shirt. He took longer to get his shots off, but realistically speaking, that would be the ideal way to train. If there's ever a SHTF scenario where there is no law, most of us probably wouldn't advertise our sidearm to others, so drawing from concealed carry is practical. I don't think there will be bands of roving ronin with katana for us to deal with, but I can see myself having to shoot someone with a Bear Grylls machete from Sports Authority...

Thanks for the post.  I was wondering what was acceptable here as far as holsters go for both safety and courtesy but never asked and defaulted to standard OWB at 3 o'clock.  So many holster variations entire classes could be held for each to maintain some kind of control over the line? 
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: AmbuBadger on October 02, 2013, 09:12:28 PM
I can see where HDF would be worried, drawing from under a shirt just adds a few more steps and chances for something to go wrong. It's hard not to get competitive and push yourself to get shots off a little faster than your previous time, but at the same time I don't want to snag my Glock on something and go home with muzzle burns... My girlfriend might kill me before I can explain that they aren't hickies.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: drck1000 on October 02, 2013, 10:02:15 PM
I have the G-Codr Incog holster for my Glock 17 and I've trained with it occasionally. I also have a SIRT that helps with practicing at home. And yes, be careful when you are doing repetitive draw/presentation and shooting with repetition as the Incog doesn't cover to the end of the slide. Like Ambu mentioned, it can "leave a mark".

Another thing to consider is clothing that you would wear. I've taken classes in cold climates, like 30-40 degrees and that kind of clothing wasn't practical for me in a Hawaii context. I ran part of the class concealed with either the Incog or a RCS holster, but I ran most of the class with an OWB because of all the layers that I had on.

Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 02, 2013, 10:06:08 PM
i am just a helper for the range days, but i would have issues with IWB
too much chance of flashing yourself and others unless done at 3 o'clock, and you might as well be OWB at 3 o'clock
chris, sterling, and the RSOs have the final say

I can see where HDF would be worried, drawing from under a shirt just adds a few more steps and chances for something to go wrong. It's hard not to get competitive and push yourself to get shots off a little faster than your previous time, but at the same time I don't want to snag my Glock on something and go home with muzzle burns... My girlfriend might kill me before I can explain that they aren't hickies.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on October 03, 2013, 12:37:23 AM
more thoughts:

- can run the drills cold / dry fire
- when hot, one forward at the line at a time, get to repeat few times (manageable with small class size)
- I think very useful vs. on your own as can get critique (beats drawing at yourself in the mirror)
- less dangerous than being at HF indoor range where you have no control over next to you (they allow IWB? no restriction on draw practice that I heard of)

Got another question too, I'd like to test through a jacket pocket (revolver vs. pistol, port normal vs. port down)  Open range session ok?  (do we have a fire extinguisher at the tables?)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: AmbuBadger on October 03, 2013, 07:10:19 AM
I think a safe way to start would be chamber empty, would add another second to get the gun in action but save your pride and bacon in you managed to get your finger in the triggerguard on the draw.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on October 03, 2013, 01:19:33 PM
Unless other RO's disagree, our current policy has been to let the individual run IWB with the shirt tucked in behind it.   If you want to work on your concealed draw, you can do that at home :-).  It's just another step that we have to worry about on the range.  Normally, there are many, many other things we can work on improving on people that you shouldn't have to worry about it.

When the laws change to the point where the training we are doing is for concealment, then that will have to be revised.  Should the range owners then have a problem with us training like that it will have to be addressed.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on October 03, 2013, 01:32:51 PM
Unless other RO's disagree, our current policy has been to let the individual run IWB with the shirt tucked in behind it.   If you want to work on your concealed draw, you can do that at home :-).  It's just another step that we have to worry about on the range.  Normally, there are many, many other things we can work on improving on people that you shouldn't have to worry about it.

When the laws change to the point where the training we are doing is for concealment, then that will have to be revised.  Should the range owners then have a problem with us training like that it will have to be addressed.

Thank you for the clarification Chris! 
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on October 04, 2013, 01:24:46 PM
Thank you for the clarification Chris!

To add some extra info.  It was originally told me that Mike has a problem with people drawing from concealment unless LEO.  Therefore, i never pushed that issue (other things to worry about first).   That's also one of the reasons!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on October 07, 2013, 10:03:36 AM
anyone got m&p 15-22 mags for sale? or know a place to buy them?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra on October 07, 2013, 01:45:06 PM
anyone got m&p 15-22 mags for sale? or know a place to buy them?

You might get more responses to that question if you posted in a classified ad versus hijacking another thread.

Just saying .....

 :stopjack:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on October 07, 2013, 02:46:55 PM
You might get more responses to that question if you posted in a classified ad versus hijacking another thread.

Just saying .....

 :stopjack:

just asking if anyone is selling one and maybe i can buy it from them during range day bro ;) but ur right  :stopjack:  ::)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Dolomite on October 07, 2013, 05:18:56 PM
Do you guys ever use those metal plates like on the Texas wheel or the tree?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on October 07, 2013, 05:30:12 PM
Do you guys ever use those metal plates like on the Texas wheel or the tree?

We don't really have storage for our range days.  Just what people can bring with us, so it's usually minimal work.   Do more with less is the current motto.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: ImKu on October 15, 2013, 11:20:07 AM
Is the 20OCT13 range day still a go?  What will be covered and what items are recommended for this shoot?  Just found out that I have that day off...  Mahalo  :shaka:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 15, 2013, 11:31:56 AM
Still a go
Plan is carbine
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Kuleana on October 15, 2013, 12:52:31 PM

Just for clarification, October 26th is a go, not October 20th for our next range day.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 15, 2013, 01:22:54 PM
good catch, kuleana

Just for clarification, October 26th is a go, not October 20th for our next range day.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: ImKu on October 15, 2013, 02:24:00 PM
good catch, kuleana
+1 I was looking at the 2012 section...
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on October 21, 2013, 02:00:33 PM
good day all so here is the up coming plans for range day on sat oct 26th. Starting off with the sign in, waivers and fees. everyone must sign in and sign waivers prior to shooting. Everyone! At this time will pay "match fees" collected pior to shooting. Fee schedule as follows HDF current members "match fee" is $10.00.  As For non-members its $20.00 without joininig the HDF, Or they will be encouraged to join the HDF at this time @ $25.00 for membership and then it would be $10.00 for the day total $35.00 so take advantage of this now.
also forgot the free shoot portion of the day fee is $10.00 for anyone coming out just for that portion which is still a "match fee" because the team building portion is the "match" which is at the end of the day.

As for the finally of the day i like to call it team building " The Match" I have a halloween theme challenge for us so spread the word and lets do this and make the HDF the group to belong too!

all fees collected will pay for the extra equipment now needed due to no access to the container previously used by hdf and to pay for other expenses like insurance costs and of course the main objective 2A rights!

 
Training time should start aaround 8:30- 9am due to sign in and registration.

Next is the training segment which will be Carbine (  rifle sling, 250 rounds, extra mags, knee pads, belt) with some Pistol transitions( 200 rounds, extra mags, holster). I built some barracaids for this weekend so there will be run and shoots some behind barracaid shooting, carbine to pistol transitions some come prepared to work. As for the finally

of the day i like to call it team building i have a halloween theme challenge for us so spread the word and lets do this and make the HDF the group to belong too!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: JHanawahine on October 21, 2013, 02:48:00 PM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 21, 2013, 03:04:40 PM
mahalo sterling

please, everyone show up early or at least on time
sterling and the range masters will need help setting up, and they will also be busy checking people in (mandatory sign-in, waivers, and fees)
the earlier everyone gets there and gets settled, the more training and shooting can be accomplished
there are more learning AND fun activities planned as the months go on, so come out and join the HDF and participate in the range days!

oh, and please help clean up if you can too
it's a long, hard day, and we don't want sterling and the range masters to be the only ones doing the work
i'll be there only for the fun shoot part, but i'm staying 'til the end to police the area

good day all so here is the up coming plans for range day on sat oct 26th. Starting off with the sign in, waivers and fees. everyone must sign in and sign waivers prior to shooting. Everyone! At this time will pay "match fees" collected pior to shooting. Fee schedule as follows HDF current members "match fee" is $10.00.  As For non-members its $20.00 without joininig the HDF, Or they will be encouraged to join the HDF at this time @ $25.00 for membership and then it would be $10.00 for the day total $35.00 so take advantage of this now.
also forgot the free shoot portion of the day fee is $10.00 for anyone coming out just for that portion which is still a "match fee" because the team building portion is the "match" which is at the end of the day.

As for the finally of the day i like to call it team building " The Match" I have a halloween theme challenge for us so spread the word and lets do this and make the HDF the group to belong too!

all fees collected will pay for the extra equipment now needed due to no access to the container previously used by hdf and to pay for other expenses like insurance costs and of course the main objective 2A rights!

 
Training time should start aaround 8:30- 9am due to sign in and registration.

Next is the training segment which will be Carbine (  rifle sling, 250 rounds, extra mags, knee pads, belt) with some Pistol transitions( 200 rounds, extra mags, holster). I built some barracaids for this weekend so there will be run and shoots some behind barracaid shooting, carbine to pistol transitions some come prepared to work. As for the finally

of the day i like to call it team building i have a halloween theme challenge for us so spread the word and lets do this and make the HDF the group to belong too!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: AmbuBadger on October 21, 2013, 04:13:45 PM
Ill be there for medical, as usual. I can bring my girl along, so Skinny Panda has some company. Is there a Halloween thing going on? She might come dressed...
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 21, 2013, 05:02:01 PM
i think she should come dressed anyways
http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/evil.gif (http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/evil.gif)

WTF? and q were joking around about dressing as mall ninjas last month
maybe we should do something along those lines
shmegahs, vests, drop legs, body armor, goggles, gas masks, elbow and knee pads, rucksacks, ghille suits, the sky's the limit
just as long as dirtylickins, aieahound, aiea78, and noscade don't come dressed as the village people
http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/shocked.gif (http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/shocked.gif)

Ill be there for medical, as usual. I can bring my girl along, so Skinny Panda has some company. Is there a Halloween thing going on? She might come dressed...
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on October 21, 2013, 08:11:09 PM
i think she should come dressed anyways
>:D (http://>:D)

WTF? and q were joking around about dressing as mall ninjas last month
maybe we should do something along those lines
shmegahs, vests, drop legs, body armor, goggles, gas masks, elbow and knee pads, rucksacks, ghille suits, the sky's the limit
just as long as dirtylickins, aieahound, aiea78, and noscade don't come dressed as the village people
:o (http://:o)
oooh I got dibs on the leather dude outfit. Thanks big boys
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Bunker on October 21, 2013, 08:18:13 PM
oooh I got dibs on the leather dude outfit. Thanks big boys
The visual is killing me....
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 21, 2013, 08:18:43 PM
oh, shoot, i guess there are 5 "guys" in the village people
edited:
just as long as dirtylickins, aieahound, aiea78, Locked N Loaded, and noscade don't come dressed as the village people
http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/afro.gif (http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/afro.gif)

oooh I got dibs on the leather dude outfit. Thanks big boys
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 21, 2013, 08:19:30 PM
at least it's a better visual than Q in the tactical mankini...
http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/shocked.gif (http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/shocked.gif)

The visual is killing me....
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Bunker on October 21, 2013, 08:42:45 PM
at least it's a better visual than Q in the tactical mankini...
:o (http://:o)
You may have a point there but I never meet Q so I wouldn't know but I don't doubt it. Now AieaHound could walk in a place with dog shit on his shoes and start bitching about it smells like shit and he's only making a 7/11 run and can't stay long and get away with it.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 21, 2013, 08:56:28 PM

But it takes 'hound that long to make a 7/11 run because he keeps on telling stories and getting interrupted by noscade

You may have a point there but I never meet Q so I wouldn't know but I don't doubt it. Now AieaHound could walk in a place with dog shit on his shoes and start bitching about it smells like shit and he's only making a 7/11 run and can't stay long and get away with it.
Title: .
Post by: Q on October 21, 2013, 11:30:35 PM
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on October 22, 2013, 01:40:39 AM
I got some poppers!  (and no not those v-people kind you fuggers ;) )

Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: ImKu on October 22, 2013, 06:36:23 AM
please, everyone show up early or at least on time
sterling and the range masters will need help setting up, and they will also be busy checking people in (mandatory sign-in, waivers, and fees)
the earlier everyone gets there and gets settled, the more training and shooting can be accomplished
there are more learning AND fun activities planned as the months go on, so come out and join the HDF and participate in the range days!

What time are people arriving to set up?  I can help.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: AmbuBadger on October 22, 2013, 07:54:01 AM
At least now I know Macsak visualizes about me in a Man-kini  :love: :love: :love: :love:

Nobody wants to see your tactical trunk monkey!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 22, 2013, 08:04:26 AM
damn
i walked right into that one

At least now I know Macsak visualizes about me in a Man-kini  :love: :love: :love: :love:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on October 22, 2013, 10:11:24 AM
What time are people arriving to set up?  I can help.
hi imku I think about 7:30 am is a good time to show for set up on the 26th.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on October 22, 2013, 11:54:08 AM
Ill be there for medical, as usual. I can bring my girl along, so Skinny Panda has some company. Is there a Halloween thing going on? She might come dressed...

yes skinny panda is coming and also my friend and his girlfriend with her sister is coming too. they just joined the hdf last week. 
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 22, 2013, 12:01:56 PM
sweet!
skinny p is gonna be rockin her tavor!
did she get a pistol and a big girl battle belt?

yes skinny panda is coming and also my friend and his girlfriend with her sister is coming too. they just joined the hdf last week.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on October 22, 2013, 05:08:49 PM
sweet!
skinny p is gonna be rockin her tavor!
did she get a pistol and a big girl battle belt?

not too sure yet which rifle she's rocking.  and she's not ready with the pistol yet until she gets more training.  so i hope she can participate with just the rifle.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 22, 2013, 05:35:40 PM
there's gonna be some transition drills, but she can skip those, or just go through the motions
in the funshoot portion, i am sure the guys will let her try more pistols if she wants :)

mahalos for getting your friends to join up
i guess you guys can be the new furious five

not too sure yet which rifle she's rocking.  and she's not ready with the pistol yet until she gets more training.  so i hope she can participate with just the rifle.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Jdelacruz on October 23, 2013, 05:07:46 PM
Hi there, I've joined the HDF early this year and I've been meaning to got out to one these range days. I've never been to one before and I'm wondering what to expect and bring and is expected of me.

Thanks in advance to any answers to my post.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 23, 2013, 05:22:47 PM
j
i know there's 17 pages, but this thread has a bunch of info on what to bring and what to expect
looking forward to meeting you on saturday

Hi there, I've joined the HDF early this year and I've been meaning to got out to one these range days. I've never been to one before and I'm wondering what to expect and bring and is expected of me.

Thanks in advance to any answers to my post.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: JHanawahine on October 23, 2013, 05:24:00 PM
Be safe and alert
Hi there, I've joined the HDF early this year and I've been meaning to got out to one these range days. I've never been to one before and I'm wondering what to expect and bring and is expected of me.

Thanks in advance to any answers to my post.
good day all so here is the up coming plans for range day on sat oct 26th. Starting off with the sign in, waivers and fees. everyone must sign in and sign waivers prior to shooting. Everyone! At this time will pay "match fees" collected pior to shooting. Fee schedule as follows HDF current members "match fee" is $10.00.  As For non-members its $20.00 without joininig the HDF, Or they will be encouraged to join the HDF at this time @ $25.00 for membership and then it would be $10.00 for the day total $35.00 so take advantage of this now.
also forgot the free shoot portion of the day fee is $10.00 for anyone coming out just for that portion which is still a "match fee" because the team building portion is the "match" which is at the end of the day.

As for the finally of the day i like to call it team building " The Match" I have a halloween theme challenge for us so spread the word and lets do this and make the HDF the group to belong too!

all fees collected will pay for the extra equipment now needed due to no access to the container previously used by hdf and to pay for other expenses like insurance costs and of course the main objective 2A rights!

 
Training time should start aaround 8:30- 9am due to sign in and registration.

Next is the training segment which will be Carbine (  rifle sling, 250 rounds, extra mags, knee pads, belt) with some Pistol transitions( 200 rounds, extra mags, holster). I built some barracaids for this weekend so there will be run and shoots some behind barracaid shooting, carbine to pistol transitions some come prepared to work. As for the finally

of the day i like to call it team building i have a halloween theme challenge for us so spread the word and lets do this and make the HDF the group to belong too!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on October 23, 2013, 05:28:05 PM
Hi there, I've joined the HDF early this year and I've been meaning to got out to one these range days. I've never been to one before and I'm wondering what to expect and bring and is expected of me.

Thanks in advance to any answers to my post.
refence page 16 at the bottom. As for expectations to fully participate in the drills safely handling your carbine from sling postion and drawing from a holster and muzzle discipline is imperative. So with that said we all need to start somewhere if not with the advanced group then that's what the afternoon sessions are for to come and get some basic instruction.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 23, 2013, 05:49:32 PM
found it
page 10 and 11 and 13

refence page 16 at the bottom. As for expectations to fully participate in the drills safely handling your carbine from sling postion and drawing from a holster and muzzle discipline is imperative. So with that said we all need to start somewhere if not with the advanced group then that's what the afternoon sessions are for to come and get some basic instruction.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Dolomite on October 23, 2013, 06:55:36 PM
Damn I can never make the days it's scheduled...

What's the 2014 schedule like?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on October 25, 2013, 01:32:33 PM
Damn I can never make the days it's scheduled...

What's the 2014 schedule like?

They are quite slow to put out the schedules.  I haven't seen anything from the range master at KKHSC yet.  Will update as soon as we get that information.  :shaka:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on October 25, 2013, 10:31:26 PM
They are quite slow to put out the schedules.  I haven't seen anything from the range master at KKHSC yet.  Will update as soon as we get that information.  :shaka:
thanks buddy glad to see you caught that question. Nice to know you still watching over us.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on October 27, 2013, 09:20:13 AM
just want to thank the hdf crew for a hella dope range day.   skinny panda asked me "when do we learn to curve the bullet like in wanted?" lol

btw, long shot but did anyone by accident bring home an extra glock 17 gen4 mag?  skinny panda said someone let her shoot their glock but used our mags. she cant remember who. its the 16 rnd mag blocked to 10 of course. thanks
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 27, 2013, 09:23:19 AM
pm sent, fatp

just want to thank the hdf crew for a hella dope range day.   skinny panda asked me "when do we learn to curve the bullet like in wanted?" lol

btw, long shot but did anyone by accident bring home an extra glock 17 gen4 mag?  skinny panda said someone let her shoot their glock but used our mags. she cant remember who. its the 16 rnd mag blocked to 10 of course. thanks
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on October 27, 2013, 12:52:46 PM
Eberybody ok today? :)  Me a little bit sore and toasty haha!   

So a quick thought:  If we're going to incorporate sprints, calisthenics and the like, a warmup and stretch first is a good idea.   I know we're all our own first defenders and will go stone cold no matter our age, physical abilities, etc. but give us a chance for practice and injury avoidance. 

It's going to look like police or military training to the outsiders either way no matter what we do or wear.  I bring the latter up because of a conversation in passing which seemed to indicate a dress code might be a good idea?  FWIW I like surplus, camo, cargos, vests, plate carriers, helmets, neon clothing too :) and not in favor of any dress code just to be P.C.  If you brought it then run it.

Speaking of LEO and targets, look at the ones they're training with now:

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/high-tide-and-turn/2013/feb/28/dhs-training-practice-targets-featuring-children-p/ (http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/high-tide-and-turn/2013/feb/28/dhs-training-practice-targets-featuring-children-p/)

Makes ours, which clearly have "good guy/bad guy" or generic shapes,  look tame in comparison.  Does HPD train with those now too?

Anyways, thanks again to everyone for range day.  Awesome clothesline setup and much better than constantly fiddling with frames, shims and tires!  Plus dirtychickens brought out those barricades!  Very cool.  I can see the beginnings of stage construction happening.  HDF Town some day?  :D  Looking forward to the next one!





Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on October 27, 2013, 01:08:41 PM
Afternoon session:   I think a formal class needs to be created/announced for newbies to get them to participate.  Specifics developed so they know what to bring, how to prepare, what to do arriving at the range, what they will be doing in class, etc.   No one does it better than Front Sight IMO and we'd be doing good to emulate some of their practices.

I for one am sorely lacking in support hand practice so this last one was good one :)  Just practicing the transition is plenty when you add in clicking to safe in between reps so not only got octopus arms going but fingers too LOL!   Totally a 101 thing to practice next open session.  Just blasting away is always fun too.

More thoughts from the club?

Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: ImKu on October 27, 2013, 05:19:17 PM
I think that this past range session was great and it's alway fun seeing familiar faces and meeting new people.  I would like to thank the instructors and dirtylickins for their time and part they played to make it a successful range day.  This seemed pretty well thought out as far as the drills that were run and the target set-up by dirtylickins (the rope almost made it the whole time!).  IMO, HDF range days is a rare opportunity to run your gear like it should be and getting that feedback I found out I want to use shoes/boots that give more ankle support, and thanks to Jonjon run a smaller/lighter dump pouch. 

The idea of a light  warm up prior to beginning would be cool, but I would recommend we come to the range earlier to do that/set up and get registration/paper work done to not interfere with shooting time.  I'm not in great shape, but I for one would like to see more of a workout incorporated into a small part of the  session (burpees/push-ups/short sprints) as I think it would be good to have your heart rate going as you go through the drills (not too many places that you can do that).  As far as a formal class for newer shooters, I'm sure that would be beneficial and would most likely increase membership to HDF.  One issue I would see is who would do it?  The instructors from the morning session?  That's a lot of work, and I'm sure they would also like to send some lead down range too after completing the morning training.  Are there more instructors than the ones that showed up this past weekend?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on October 27, 2013, 05:52:13 PM
Good feed back fellas... so to address the newbie situation we had a discussion about already and is formally conducting a 101structure for that. so newbies come on out for the afternoon sessions so you can get on board and start attending the morning session. We are working on growing the attendees and support because these range days are a rare opportunity here on the island for us. Thanks guys for all your support.
Title: HDF Range Days
Post by: Dolomite on October 27, 2013, 05:54:52 PM
You guys need that giant tent that the LIFE guys use... Can it be borrowed or rented from them?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 27, 2013, 06:12:55 PM
i doubt that's going to happen
sorry

You guys need that giant tent that the LIFE guys use... Can it be borrowed or rented from them?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 27, 2013, 06:16:20 PM
mahalo for the input, 78
stretching /warmup would be a good idea
i think we're a run-what-ya-brung kinda group
everyone has different needs, budgets, available gadgets, and i think it's important for everyone to feel they can join in no matter what they have
as long as it is safe and legal, of course

Eberybody ok today? :)  Me a little bit sore and toasty haha!   

So a quick thought:  If we're going to incorporate sprints, calisthenics and the like, a warmup and stretch first is a good idea.   I know we're all our own first defenders and will go stone cold no matter our age, physical abilities, etc. but give us a chance for practice and injury avoidance. 

It's going to look like police or military training to the outsiders either way no matter what we do or wear.  I bring the latter up because of a conversation in passing which seemed to indicate a dress code might be a good idea?  FWIW I like surplus, camo, cargos, vests, plate carriers, helmets, neon clothing too :) and not in favor of any dress code just to be P.C.  If you brought it then run it.

Speaking of LEO and targets, look at the ones they're training with now:

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/high-tide-and-turn/2013/feb/28/dhs-training-practice-targets-featuring-children-p/ (http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/high-tide-and-turn/2013/feb/28/dhs-training-practice-targets-featuring-children-p/)

Makes ours, which clearly have "good guy/bad guy" or generic shapes,  look tame in comparison.  Does HPD train with those now too?

Anyways, thanks again to everyone for range day.  Awesome clothesline setup and much better than constantly fiddling with frames, shims and tires!  Plus dirtychickens brought out those barricades!  Very cool.  I can see the beginnings of stage construction happening.  HDF Town some day?  :D  Looking forward to the next one!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 27, 2013, 06:20:31 PM
like dlicks said, we have already begun discussing a 101 type class
our time is limited, but we will always be trying to improve class flow and instruction level as we go along
class prep materials will likely evolve too
as always, more input is always welcomed

Afternoon session:   I think a formal class needs to be created/announced for newbies to get them to participate.  Specifics developed so they know what to bring, how to prepare, what to do arriving at the range, what they will be doing in class, etc.   No one does it better than Front Sight IMO and we'd be doing good to emulate some of their practices.

I for one am sorely lacking in support hand practice so this last one was good one :)  Just practicing the transition is plenty when you add in clicking to safe in between reps so not only got octopus arms going but fingers too LOL!   Totally a 101 thing to practice next open session.  Just blasting away is always fun too.

More thoughts from the club?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 27, 2013, 06:28:39 PM
was great to see you again, ku
mahalo for the feedback
we are learning as we go, so sign up should run smoother as time goes on
and it always helps for people to arrive early so that we can be set up and ready to go as soon as khsc goes hot
as far as instructors go, not sure if there are any more certified range masters/trainers out there
the range assistants like myself are pretty much there for observation/safety and to back up kanoa/henry/sterling
i can assure you the range day leadership will work hard to come up with a viable plan to include as many people as we can at every skill level

I think that this past range session was great and it's alway fun seeing familiar faces and meeting new people.  I would like to thank the instructors and dirtylickins for their time and part they played to make it a successful range day.  This seemed pretty well thought out as far as the drills that were run and the target set-up by dirtylickins (the rope almost made it the whole time!).  IMO, HDF range days is a rare opportunity to run your gear like it should be and getting that feedback I found out I want to use shoes/boots that give more ankle support, and thanks to Jonjon run a smaller/lighter dump pouch. 

The idea of a light  warm up prior to beginning would be cool, but I would recommend we come to the range earlier to do that/set up and get registration/paper work done to not interfere with shooting time.  I'm not in great shape, but I for one would like to see more of a workout incorporated into a small part of the  session (burpees/push-ups/short sprints) as I think it would be good to have your heart rate going as you go through the drills (not too many places that you can do that).  As far as a formal class for newer shooters, I'm sure that would be beneficial and would most likely increase membership to HDF.  One issue I would see is who would do it?  The instructors from the morning session?  That's a lot of work, and I'm sure they would also like to send some lead down range too after completing the morning training.  Are there more instructors than the ones that showed up this past weekend?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: AmbuBadger on October 27, 2013, 06:49:10 PM
Dang, I left my BVM on the tent, did anyone manage to grab it? I was in a rush heading out, had to work that night at the rave. Thanks again, good fun, glad nobody got shot.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 27, 2013, 06:50:30 PM
the mask thing?
dirty's got it

Dang, I left my BVM on the tent, did anyone manage to grab it? I was in a rush heading out, had to work that night at the rave. Thanks again, good fun, glad nobody got shot.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 27, 2013, 07:06:35 PM
one other thing, everyone
yesterday was an extremely hot and muggy day
and a lot of people  were looking a little dehydrated
i was there only from 1pm, and drank 2 gatorades and a diet pepsi before 4 and i was still feelin it all evening
our high school cross country coach would always tell us, you are dehydrated until your pee is clear
and i wasn't peeing much all night

we all need to be better prepared and watch out for each other

Dang, I left my BVM on the tent, did anyone manage to grab it? I was in a rush heading out, had to work that night at the rave. Thanks again, good fun, glad nobody got shot.
Title: HDF Range Days
Post by: Dolomite on October 27, 2013, 07:35:23 PM
That's some real life training....
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Dolomite on October 27, 2013, 09:08:32 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/28/ygeqaga5.jpg)

I'm ready for the next HDF range day....
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on October 28, 2013, 01:44:14 AM
one other thing, everyone
yesterday was an extremely hot and muggy day
and a lot of people  were looking a little dehydrated
i was there only from 1pm, and drank 2 gatorades and a diet pepsi before 4 and i was still feelin it all evening
our high school cross country coach would always tell us, you are dehydrated until your pee is clear
and i wasn't peeing much all night

we all need to be better prepared and watch out for each other


haha I was seriously going to take Sterlings water container to the store to refill it for the afternoon session!  I got there 7:45am and went through 3 gatorade big bottles which still wasn't enough liquids, forgot my water jug.  Mahalos to Sean-O and SSH (?) for offering up the ice cold water bottles after!   

 
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on October 28, 2013, 02:01:45 AM
That's some real life training....

How about more CQB basically point blank draw and fire practice.  Shoot and move sideways or backwards repeat fire (on secondary target?) and assess.  Then more practice around obstacles / slicing the pie work mimicking indoors.  Stuff like that.  Both shoot & no shoot targets.  Only so much we can do with what props we have though.  Plus no more storage on site so we'd have build, take down and take home.  But I bet we could come up with some good stuff with plywood and drywall screws.  Have cordless drill will travel!  :D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 28, 2013, 06:59:10 AM
mahalo for the suggestions, a78
sterling, myself, and dr george were practicing stuff like you were talking about (moving, secondary targets) during the open range session 2 months ago
it was really excellent training to fire, move, fire, assess, reload, etc

i am sure we will have more built stuff as time goes on
and we will be hitting up people to help with construction too

How about more CQB basically point blank draw and fire practice.  Shoot and move sideways or backwards repeat fire (on secondary target?) and assess.  Then more practice around obstacles / slicing the pie work mimicking indoors.  Stuff like that.  Both shoot & no shoot targets.  Only so much we can do with what props we have though.  Plus no more storage on site so we'd have build, take down and take home.  But I bet we could come up with some good stuff with plywood and drywall screws.  Have cordless drill will travel!  :D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 28, 2013, 12:42:16 PM
does anyone have a sample of the frontsight class materials?

Afternoon session:   I think a formal class needs to be created/announced for newbies to get them to participate.  Specifics developed so they know what to bring, how to prepare, what to do arriving at the range, what they will be doing in class, etc.   No one does it better than Front Sight IMO and we'd be doing good to emulate some of their practices.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on October 28, 2013, 01:53:45 PM
does anyone have a sample of the frontsight class materials?


http://www.frontsight.com/FirearmTraining/front-sight.asp (http://www.frontsight.com/FirearmTraining/front-sight.asp)

Seeing as how there was an innocent "parking lot incident" should just spell it out and have a sticky or something.

ex. Arrival to HDF
Leave guns cased
Sign in and pay fees
Uncase / don gear at safe tables areas only -  firearms to remain cold and unloaded
Loading of firearms permitted only at the firing line as directed
Unload and clear when leaving the firing line
etc.

This varies from FS where everyone was gearing up in the parking lot then heading to sign in & inspection.  Different state, range, carry rules, etc.  What are the action bay rules for open carry anways?  Like walking back to your vehicle to get a water bottle or stuff? 
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 28, 2013, 02:10:50 PM
mahalo once again for your input and help, '78
we will try and make things more clear next time

http://www.frontsight.com/FirearmTraining/front-sight.asp (http://www.frontsight.com/FirearmTraining/front-sight.asp)

Seeing as how there was an innocent "parking lot incident" should just spell it out and have a sticky or something.

ex. Arrival to HDF
Leave guns cased
Sign in and pay fees
Uncase / don gear at safe tables areas only -  firearms to remain cold and unloaded
Loading of firearms permitted only at the firing line as directed
Unload and clear when leaving the firing line
etc.

This varies from FS where everyone was gearing up in the parking lot then heading to sign in & inspection.  Different state, range, carry rules, etc.  What are the action bay rules for open carry anways?  Like walking back to your vehicle to get a water bottle or stuff?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 28, 2013, 02:16:02 PM
from earlier in this long ass thread for reference

Looking to continue your firearms education after your basic pistol course?  Join Hawaii Defense Foundation July 27th for our monthly range day down at the Koko Head Shooting Complex action bays.  We offer free training to members catering to both basic to advanced shooters as well as providing a time to you to run your firearm according to your needs.

July 27 - Range Day

Location:
Koko Head Shooting Complex
Action Bay #1
8102 Kalanianaole Highway
Honolulu, HI, 96825, United States

Schedule:

Intermediate Level Training:
8:00am – 12:00pm

Here we provide instruction to our more experienced members.  With the price of ammunition beginning to stabilize we are reintroducing rifles back into the syllabus.  Previous training events include:  Offhand shooting/malfunction drills, barricade drills and engagement of moving targets.

Free Shoot and Beginner Instruction:
12:00pm – 3:00pm

This is when we open up the range to our members to train at their own pace.  This is also when we take to time to work with our newer members to cover such basics as drawing from holster and fundamentals of marksmanship.

Requirements:
HDF Membership
Participation in a training event of some kind (Basic handgun safety course counts)
Eye and ear protection
Closed toed shoes
Long pants
Belt

Recommended:
Firearm with Holster
Magazine Pouches
Lunch and enough water to keep you hydrated

mahalo once again for your input and help, '78
we will try and make things more clear next time
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 28, 2013, 02:18:12 PM
other quotes from this thread
highly recommend high-speed gear's taco magazine pouches (they sell at Security Equipment).  As far as holsters go, G-Code, Raven Concealment,safariland, and bladetech are some of the ones I like.

You need at least two magazines (five recommended), and associated holster / magazine pouches for your gun.
Most people are probably using five - six boxes.

Just as a reminder, morning time should be for the intermediate level shooters +   You should have and understand how to safely  draw and engage from the holster; 3-5 magazines is preferred, magazine holder is required, pants, belt, closed toe shoes, eye and ear protection, water.  I generally say you would be good with 300+ rounds.

from earlier in this long ass thread for reference

Looking to continue your firearms education after your basic pistol course?  Join Hawaii Defense Foundation July 27th for our monthly range day down at the Koko Head Shooting Complex action bays.  We offer free training to members catering to both basic to advanced shooters as well as providing a time to you to run your firearm according to your needs.

July 27 - Range Day

Location:
Koko Head Shooting Complex
Action Bay #1
8102 Kalanianaole Highway
Honolulu, HI, 96825, United States

Schedule:

Intermediate Level Training:
8:00am – 12:00pm

Here we provide instruction to our more experienced members.  With the price of ammunition beginning to stabilize we are reintroducing rifles back into the syllabus.  Previous training events include:  Offhand shooting/malfunction drills, barricade drills and engagement of moving targets.

Free Shoot and Beginner Instruction:
12:00pm – 3:00pm

This is when we open up the range to our members to train at their own pace.  This is also when we take to time to work with our newer members to cover such basics as drawing from holster and fundamentals of marksmanship.

Requirements:
HDF Membership
Participation in a training event of some kind (Basic handgun safety course counts)
Eye and ear protection
Closed toed shoes
Long pants
Belt

Recommended:
Firearm with Holster
Magazine Pouches
Lunch and enough water to keep you hydrated
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 28, 2013, 02:51:31 PM
a past review from aiea 78
I might not remember all and get the order of events wrong but it was practical drills.  The day was split into 2 parts - first session for intermediate and second after 12 noon session for newer shooters.  You should be well practiced with safe weapon handling and proficient with your firearms as the AM session goes quickly.  Seeing everyone belt up beforehand, replete with numerous mag holsters and slung rifles, should tell you much already. 

We warmed up with rifle first from close range.  Then there was a mag change drill - fire 2 to empty, reload and fire 2 more.  It was fun as was an elimination drill until only two were left at the line and we (the 2 Tongs) shot it out 'till there was one (where's my t-shirt Chris  )   Another drill was transitioning to secondary - fire rifle then backup pistol.  I liked that one a lot.  Lots of different targets to make things interesting including a hostage + bad guy, which some had more fun shooting the hostage, I know I did a couple times LOL.  More various drills including a paired team firing, moving off line then re-engaging the target, backing each other up to reload etc.  Good stuff.

The precision drills is where the pushups and laps came in regarding errors.  Ok so I totally didn't understand the drill so center massed most till the light went on!  Doh. Too late and everyone suffered at the end, e kala mai.  But if this old slightly broken guy can go then you can too.  Heck I will do the exercises if even didn't have to now that I know what's going on.  But the real point is accuracy on target. 

We approached noon so the range opened up to non drill firing.  I tried out some CQB draw firing but with varying success as further from target than ideal for that but it was good to practice live.  Shot at pieces of stuff dancing them around the berm.  Shot some kneeling to standing. The sound of other's rapid fire was awesome - HDF range day!

Not every range day will be the same.  For example hnl.flyboy successfully performed trick shooting using reflected image off a diamond ring!  Just don't see that every day now do ya? 

My advice is have your gear squared away.  Have a sturdy belt, holster for pistol (OWB at 9 or 3 best here so you don't flag anyone), rifle, many mags and a sling.  Got a vest or carrier?  Try it out.  Bring water.  There was a long line of tables to gear up but do not go hot yet- that is only allowed at the line and firearms are unloaded before leaving the line each time.  No one is breathing down your neck so that one is easy to miss thinking you're at home or whatever.  I violated it as well but caught myself and walked back up the berm to unload and didn't do it again.  My EoTech battery ran dry so was using irons most of the day.  Run what you brung and be ready to deal with equipment failures it's all part of learning and surviving afterall.

Had to leave so couldn't stay for the second session but will stay next time!  It was the saddest thing to unbelt and put gear away to go I tell you.  I hope you have as much fun as I did and take away much valuable lessons and practice time.  HDF is a great non-competitive venue and we are lucky to have these range days.  Looking forward to the next one!


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highly recommend high-speed gear's taco magazine pouches (they sell at Security Equipment).  As far as holsters go, G-Code, Raven Concealment,safariland, and bladetech are some of the ones I like.

You need at least two magazines (five recommended), and associated holster / magazine pouches for your gun.
Most people are probably using five - six boxes.

Just as a reminder, morning time should be for the intermediate level shooters +   You should have and understand how to safely  draw and engage from the holster; 3-5 magazines is preferred, magazine holder is required, pants, belt, closed toe shoes, eye and ear protection, water.  I generally say you would be good with 300+ rounds.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on October 28, 2013, 02:52:34 PM
from lifer
Ear and eye pro

Hat
T shirt, long sleeve good idea. If short sleeve, sunscreen
Long pants WITH belt
Close toed shoes, no slippas!
Gloves, your call
Knee pads, your call (not really needed)
Camelbak, your call

Pistol holster
Mag holder

Just wear something comfortable and that you can maneuver in. I've seen everything from jeans, to shorts( not recommended) to Docker slacks, to 5-11 pants. It's all good.

Lots of water/ Gatorade, etc
Snacks
If you are there all day it's hot as hell and you get hungry/thirsty.

Lots of ammo

I usually also give a donation to Chris and the HDF Warchest

a past review from aiea 78
I might not remember all and get the order of events wrong but it was practical drills.  The day was split into 2 parts - first session for intermediate and second after 12 noon session for newer shooters.  You should be well practiced with safe weapon handling and proficient with your firearms as the AM session goes quickly.  Seeing everyone belt up beforehand, replete with numerous mag holsters and slung rifles, should tell you much already. 

We warmed up with rifle first from close range.  Then there was a mag change drill - fire 2 to empty, reload and fire 2 more.  It was fun as was an elimination drill until only two were left at the line and we (the 2 Tongs) shot it out 'till there was one (where's my t-shirt Chris  )   Another drill was transitioning to secondary - fire rifle then backup pistol.  I liked that one a lot.  Lots of different targets to make things interesting including a hostage + bad guy, which some had more fun shooting the hostage, I know I did a couple times LOL.  More various drills including a paired team firing, moving off line then re-engaging the target, backing each other up to reload etc.  Good stuff.

The precision drills is where the pushups and laps came in regarding errors.  Ok so I totally didn't understand the drill so center massed most till the light went on!  Doh. Too late and everyone suffered at the end, e kala mai.  But if this old slightly broken guy can go then you can too.  Heck I will do the exercises if even didn't have to now that I know what's going on.  But the real point is accuracy on target. 

We approached noon so the range opened up to non drill firing.  I tried out some CQB draw firing but with varying success as further from target than ideal for that but it was good to practice live.  Shot at pieces of stuff dancing them around the berm.  Shot some kneeling to standing. The sound of other's rapid fire was awesome - HDF range day!

Not every range day will be the same.  For example hnl.flyboy successfully performed trick shooting using reflected image off a diamond ring!  Just don't see that every day now do ya? 

My advice is have your gear squared away.  Have a sturdy belt, holster for pistol (OWB at 9 or 3 best here so you don't flag anyone), rifle, many mags and a sling.  Got a vest or carrier?  Try it out.  Bring water.  There was a long line of tables to gear up but do not go hot yet- that is only allowed at the line and firearms are unloaded before leaving the line each time.  No one is breathing down your neck so that one is easy to miss thinking you're at home or whatever.  I violated it as well but caught myself and walked back up the berm to unload and didn't do it again.  My EoTech battery ran dry so was using irons most of the day.  Run what you brung and be ready to deal with equipment failures it's all part of learning and surviving afterall.

Had to leave so couldn't stay for the second session but will stay next time!  It was the saddest thing to unbelt and put gear away to go I tell you.  I hope you have as much fun as I did and take away much valuable lessons and practice time.  HDF is a great non-competitive venue and we are lucky to have these range days.  Looking forward to the next one!
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days HDF Range Day: November 30, 2013
Post by: dirtylickins on November 08, 2013, 11:32:34 AM
HDF Range Day: November 30, 2013         Aloha Fellow HDF shooters I am posting up this months Shooting Session;
This month we are holding a 101/ beginner introduction class at 8:00am -8:45. The reason for holding this session first is so that the new people can maybe participate in the rest of the training day if confident enough.
Anybody can attend this portion even the advanced individuals for warm up for the intermediate session. The advance session will start immediatly following the 101 session and go till approx 1pm.

The training for the day will consist of Carbine (150 rounds) and Pistol (150 rounds)approx. You will need a sling for your carbine and a belt holster for your pistol. Also minimum mags for both carbine and pistol  are 2 but recommend up to 5 for both carbine and pistol.
Training for the day will consist of some movement drills, Accuracy torture drills, and cover drills so come ready for another SAFE and exciting fun day with THE HAWAII DEFENSE FOUNDATION.

Attire long pants sturdy belt closed toe shoes a hat to cover you from sun. ear pro / eye pro. Suncreen is a good idea. Bring a lunch and lots of water to hydrate!!!!
FEE Schedule is as follows:
Starting off with the sign in, waivers and fees. everyone must sign in and sign waivers prior to shooting. Everyone! At this time will pay "match fees" collected pior to shooting. Fee schedule as follows HDF current members "match fee" is $10.00.  As For non-members its $20.00 without joininig the HDF, Or they will be encouraged to join the HDF at this time @ $25.00 for membership and then it would be $10.00 for the day total $35.00 so take advantage of this now.
also forgot the free shoot portion of the day fee is $10.00 for anyone coming out just for that portion which is still a "match fee" because the team building portion is the "match" which is at the end of the day.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days HDF Range Day: November 30, 2013
Post by: macsak on November 08, 2013, 12:00:46 PM
chee hoo!

HDF Range Day: November 30, 2013         Aloha Fellow HDF shooters I am posting up this months Shooting Session;
This month we are holding a 101/ beginner introduction class at 8:00am -8:45. The reason for holding this session first is so that the new people can maybe participate in the rest of the training day if confident enough.
Anybody can attend this portion even the advanced individuals for warm up for the intermediate session. The advance session will start immediatly following the 101 session and go till approx 1pm.

The training for the day will consist of Carbine (150 rounds) and Pistol (150 rounds)approx. You will need a sling for your carbine and a belt holster for your pistol. Also minimum mags for both carbine and pistol  are 2 but recommend up to 5 for both carbine and pistol.
Training for the day will consist of some movement drills, Accuracy torture drills, and cover drills so come ready for another SAFE and exciting fun day with THE HAWAII DEFENSE FOUNDATION.

Attire long pants sturdy belt closed toe shoes a hat to cover you from sun. ear pro / eye pro. Suncreen is a good idea. Bring a lunch and lots of water to hydrate!!!!
FEE Schedule is as follows:
Starting off with the sign in, waivers and fees. everyone must sign in and sign waivers prior to shooting. Everyone! At this time will pay "match fees" collected pior to shooting. Fee schedule as follows HDF current members "match fee" is $10.00.  As For non-members its $20.00 without joininig the HDF, Or they will be encouraged to join the HDF at this time @ $25.00 for membership and then it would be $10.00 for the day total $35.00 so take advantage of this now.
also forgot the free shoot portion of the day fee is $10.00 for anyone coming out just for that portion which is still a "match fee" because the team building portion is the "match" which is at the end of the day.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: K30l4 on November 08, 2013, 04:56:57 PM
"Is the HDF a real club?" :))
Cheehooo!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: bozo on November 08, 2013, 05:27:34 PM
"Is the HDF a real club?" :))
Cheehooo!

Isn't there a clubhouse in Aiea?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: K30l4 on November 08, 2013, 05:32:51 PM
That's the unofficial clubhouse.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: bozo on November 08, 2013, 05:43:48 PM
That's the unofficial clubhouse.  :thumbsup:

Ahhhhh......a "SECRET" clubhouse. Haha
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: jaynick on November 08, 2013, 06:46:45 PM
Unless other RO's disagree, our current policy has been to let the individual run IWB with the shirt tucked in behind it.   If you want to work on your concealed draw, you can do that at home :-).  It's just another step that we have to worry about on the range.  Normally, there are many, many other things we can work on improving on people that you shouldn't have to worry about it.

When the laws change to the point where the training we are doing is for concealment, then that will have to be revised.  Should the range owners then have a problem with us training like that it will have to be addressed.


so is IWB still ok with tucked shirt? i was going to order a holster this week.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on November 08, 2013, 06:54:16 PM

so is IWB still ok with tucked shirt? i was going to order a holster this week.

you gotta ask the range officers during range days.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: GreenStomper on November 08, 2013, 08:00:12 PM
Ugh, still need to buy a sling ,belt, holster,and mag pouches for the next shoot.
Thanks for the reminder.....(sarcasm)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on November 08, 2013, 08:12:26 PM
Ugh, still need to buy a sling ,belt, holster,and mag pouches for the next shoot.
Thanks for the reminder.....(sarcasm)

stomp
i have an MS2 (magpul) sling that you can borrow
i will be backing up the range masters and not running the rifle portion

let me know
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: jaynick on November 08, 2013, 08:16:28 PM
you gotta ask the range officers during range days.

funtimes said it was ok for the hdf range days a month or two ago, just checking if its ok with dirtylickins and whoever else is currently running the show.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on November 08, 2013, 08:29:57 PM
i sent a message to sterling, henry and kanoa and they will look at this thread and answer later at their convenience

funtimes said it was ok for the hdf range days a month or two ago, just checking if its ok with dirtylickins and whoever else is currently running the show.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on November 08, 2013, 08:50:48 PM

so is IWB still ok with tucked shirt? i was going to order a holster this week.
jay sorry but no. Hope to still see you there!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: jaynick on November 08, 2013, 08:57:10 PM
i sent a message to sterling, henry and kanoa and they will look at this thread and answer later at their convenience
cool thanks.
i might finally make it this month.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: GreenStomper on November 08, 2013, 09:27:25 PM
stomp
i have an MS2 (magpul) sling that you can borrow
i will be backing up the range masters and not running the rifle portion

let me know

Thanks mac, got an offer I'm considering. Let you know if it falls through.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on November 08, 2013, 10:15:29 PM
cool thanks.
i might finally make it this month.
jay I must apologize on that misinformation that i stated on the iwb holster and modified the reply. I was just informed by my team that no iwb will be allowed because to many factors in regards to drawing safety. Sorry jay owb holsters only for now.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: hvybarrels on November 11, 2013, 12:06:16 AM
they probably wouldn't have noticed or cared if you didn't ask
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Bota-CS1 on November 11, 2013, 08:19:05 PM
they probably wouldn't have noticed or cared if you didn't ask

I'm sure the RSO's as well as your fellow shooters would've noticed during the safety brief.  It's always better to ask and know for sure than to assume.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on November 11, 2013, 08:51:27 PM
mahalo bota
the rso's and sterling are backed by three observers
and by the participants in the action bay

our primary goal is safety, followed by learning from each other, and then FUN

there are more possible safety interactions involved with IWB carry/draw, and the range day staff would prefer OWB only

I'm sure the RSO's as well as your fellow shooters would've noticed during the safety brief.  It's always better to ask and know for sure than to assume.
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Post by: Q on November 12, 2013, 12:00:32 AM
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Jdelacruz on November 12, 2013, 06:43:11 AM
Would it be possible to get details of each coming range day posted in it's own topic and maybe update the site for the latest information? It's very difficult to navigate a 20 page thread to find out what's going on. If there's assistance needed with things kinds of stuff I'll be glad to help.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on November 12, 2013, 07:06:03 AM
Would it be possible to get details of each coming range day posted in it's own topic and maybe update the site for the latest information? It's very difficult to navigate a 20 page thread to find out what's going on. If there's assistance needed with things kinds of stuff I'll be glad to help.

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=3877.msg115192#msg115192
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Jdelacruz on November 12, 2013, 07:11:08 AM
Thank you I did find the information after going through so many posts. I just think it will make it easier for new comers to get the information quicker and easier as a separate post.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on November 12, 2013, 07:15:44 AM
Would it be possible to get details of each coming range day posted in it's own topic and maybe update the site for the latest information? It's very difficult to navigate a 20 page thread to find out what's going on. If there's assistance needed with things kinds of stuff I'll be glad to help.

just make sure you are there early enough to get your stuff squared away and signup/waivers/payment taken care of, and stretch/warmup
the 101 class will be first, but we are not sure how many will participate since it is a new thing
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on November 12, 2013, 10:00:50 AM
Would it be possible to get details of each coming range day posted in it's own topic and maybe update the site for the latest information? It's very difficult to navigate a 20 page thread to find out what's going on. If there's assistance needed with things kinds of stuff I'll be glad to help.

Suggestion taken.  We will do our best to do this in future!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: jonjon on December 01, 2013, 12:24:25 PM
When is the December range day schedule for?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on December 01, 2013, 12:29:37 PM
When is the December range day schedule for?

it is the last saturday of the month
dec 28, 2013

Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: jonjon on December 01, 2013, 12:42:01 PM
it is the last saturday of the month
dec 28, 2013

Thanks, I will be there for sure  :shaka:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: bozo on December 01, 2013, 04:39:05 PM
Count me in.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on December 01, 2013, 04:45:15 PM
Count me in.

bozo, mahalo for helping on saturday
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: bozo on December 01, 2013, 05:13:28 PM
Np. I was happy I could help out. Maybe we can try this next time. Vtac nine hole drill.
http://youtu.be/KbyqAoiX4CA (http://youtu.be/KbyqAoiX4CA)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on December 01, 2013, 05:47:04 PM
I'm betting they would let us keep some of those there if we were donating them to the range or something.  Not sure.   
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: AmbuBadger on December 01, 2013, 08:28:46 PM
I'll be there for medical, and should be able to stay for the free shoot as well. Thanks for everyone looking out for each other, no safety issues even with that huge turnout!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on December 01, 2013, 08:39:35 PM
just a heads up to those who had gear issues (mags falling due to running and etc) skdtac.com has a sale right now 13% off and they have hsgi tacos.  shipping is $5 even to hawaii. just ordered some items.  hsgi tacos are no joke. prolly the best.  it pays to have good gear.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on December 01, 2013, 08:52:40 PM
just a heads up to those who had gear issues (mags falling due to running and etc) skdtac.com has a sale right now 13% off and they have hsgi tacos.  shipping is $5 even to hawaii. just ordered some items.  hsgi tacos are no joke. prolly the best.  it pays to have good gear.

great find, fatp
maybe you should post to "deals and sale" too

was great seeing you and skinny again ;D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on December 01, 2013, 09:01:08 PM
and tactical distributors has 20% off too.  bad thing is they are out of stock of a lot of hsgi tacos but i think they might have x2r tacos still. 

promo code: BF20
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on December 01, 2013, 09:51:42 PM
Yeah. If you have gear questions, please let me know! There are lots of good vendors, good custom makers.  If you are unsure I would be happy to help people find stuff.

SKD Tactical will have cheaper prices tomorrow too btw! (Cyber monday).
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on December 01, 2013, 09:57:11 PM
Yeah. If you have gear questions, please let me know! There are lots of good vendors, good custom makers.  If you are unsure I would be happy to help people find stuff.

SKD Tactical will have cheaper prices tomorrow too btw! (Cyber monday).

it is cyber monday!
skdactical is based on CST

chris, you have vouched for HSGI tacos before
what other products do you recommend?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on December 01, 2013, 11:07:45 PM
it is cyber monday!
skdactical is based on CST

chris, you have vouched for HSGI tacos before
what other products do you recommend?

Holsters - I enjoy G-Code with the RTI mount.  Raven concealment makes some great kydex stuff.  Safariland isn't bad either if you going to have  WML on your pistol etc.  There are quite a few vendors, many of them have different styles and different products so it depends what we are really talking about.   I'm not a fan of leather holsters, but leather does seem to feel good on the body.

The other thing that I know most people need is a sling.  For that, I like the Husky Amentum, VTAC, or any other similarly functioning sling.  I think Lifer had one from a guy and it looked really well made with similar features.  You want one that you can adjust quickly (some sort of slider). I prefer two point since you can do a lot with it for bracing / shooting.  Single point is good if you are going to be moving a lot.  For me though, I think that I am too short for a single point.  No shit the rifle is knocking me int he shins and shit.

Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Kuleana on January 13, 2014, 05:51:02 PM
Hi Guys,

Any new updates for this month January's Range Day?

Thanks,
Kuleana
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Bota-CS1 on January 13, 2014, 06:00:01 PM
The entire complex is down for maintenance until 1/29.  I gotta wait until feb's range day to see all macsack's Christmas toys!   :( >:(
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Kuleana on January 13, 2014, 07:48:46 PM
Thanks for the update.      :shaka:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: kaloman on January 13, 2014, 09:38:09 PM
Now have time to get me a G-code holster!   :D
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on January 13, 2014, 09:42:45 PM
The entire complex is down for maintenance until 1/29.  I gotta wait until feb's range day to see all macsack's Christmas toys!   :( >:(

you could do like jl808 did, and come to my office to see them
and bring doughnuts like he did too
 :geekdanc:

bota, you going to speedie's on the 31st?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Bota-CS1 on January 13, 2014, 10:18:13 PM
Sorry Mac, I'll be on Maui that day.  Hope the range work goes as planned and the range opens on time. 
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: ajm008 on January 15, 2014, 06:32:56 PM
Is there a list of 2014 range days?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Bota-CS1 on January 15, 2014, 06:43:26 PM
schedule for the first 6 months of the year came out this morning
unfortunately, we were not able to get any additional dates nor get the larger action bay
the last saturday of the month, just like before
2014
jan 25
feb 22
mar 29
apr 26
may 31
jun 28

range day staff is working to improve class flow and organization to accommodate more members
please be patient as we work out our plans

It was in another thread.  You can always check the HDF website. http://www.hawaiidefensefoundation.org/events/ (http://www.hawaiidefensefoundation.org/events/)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Mr. Farknocker on January 18, 2014, 11:24:25 AM
I was at the last range day a few weeks ago just to observe. It was my first and i enjoyed it. I'd like to participate in my next but have no gear and don't know where to start. Anybody care to recommend gear to start off with?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on January 18, 2014, 11:32:57 AM
I was at the last range day a few weeks ago just to observe. It was my first and i enjoyed it. I'd like to participate in my next but have no gear and don't know where to start. Anybody care to recommend gear to start off with?

aloha mr f
i know this is a 20+ page thread, but recommended gear has been covered several times in it
read the whole thing through starting from the back and you will get lots of info
if you search the forum for terms such as holster, battle belt, taco, skdtactical, pistol belt, hsgi you will get lots of info too

i got a dsg belt and holsters and mag carriers from dave at NSR tactical (search for NSR and you'll find his thread) to start out

come to the swap meet on the 31st and you can see some stuff for sale and discuss things with da gang
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on January 18, 2014, 12:28:55 PM
Especially the next range day because its pistol so your gonna need the belt and holster with mag pouches. That's if if if if we get to run due to the range closures and no one knows :wtf: :wtf: is going on
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Bota-CS1 on January 18, 2014, 02:51:07 PM
Maybe we should make a sticky out of  a list of highly recommended things to bring, and a list of optional items.  I know we run different days so we might want to have an equipment list for carbine only days, a list for pistol only days, and a list for combo rifle/pistol days. 
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: hvybarrels on January 18, 2014, 08:05:43 PM
And soft comfy blankets for snuggle days.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Bota-CS1 on January 18, 2014, 10:17:57 PM
And soft comfy blankets for snuggle days.

Are you hitting on me Hvy?   ::)
Title: .
Post by: Q on January 18, 2014, 10:19:29 PM
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on January 18, 2014, 10:52:11 PM
And soft comfy blankets for snuggle days.

i thought a kitty kat was needed for snuggle days
Title: .
Post by: Q on January 19, 2014, 12:07:32 AM
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on January 19, 2014, 06:50:56 AM
Guys guys guys! I gonna have to ask that you remove those tactical kitty's from you bibidees prior to attending. .. those are not sop. :stopjack:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: WTF?Shane on January 19, 2014, 01:13:39 PM
Just noticed the schedule days on the top of the thread. Anyone going to update it?
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: 2aHawaii on January 21, 2014, 07:57:04 AM
Just noticed the schedule days on the top of the thread. Anyone going to update it?

All future days should have their own thread.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on January 21, 2014, 02:52:08 PM
All future days should have their own thread.

I think hes talking about the upcoming event links that the forum puts in there.
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: 2aHawaii on January 21, 2014, 02:56:27 PM
I think hes talking about the upcoming event links that the forum puts in there.

After those threads are built, they'll be linked to the calendar with links :)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Funtimes on January 21, 2014, 02:58:19 PM
After those threads are built, they'll be linked to the calendar with links :)
10-4!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: fatpanda on January 24, 2014, 11:43:11 AM
Range open tomm...let's do this!!!  Who's down?!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on January 24, 2014, 11:46:08 AM
FP
Wait for more details
We are working on staffing and equipment
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: macsak on January 24, 2014, 02:24:12 PM
FP
Wait for more details
We are working on staffing and equipment

January range day is on
see
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=13181
for details
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: GreenStomper on February 11, 2014, 09:46:16 PM
February range day still a go?
Been looking forward to it since the last shoot.
 Are the dates locked in yet?
The calendar hasn't been updated for people like me. (Can't figure out last Sat. of the month)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Aiea78 on February 26, 2014, 12:52:43 PM
bump!

HDF Range Day: March 29, 2014

http://www.hawaiidefensefoundation.org/events/2014-03/ (http://www.hawaiidefensefoundation.org/events/2014-03/)
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: GreenStomper on February 26, 2014, 04:46:30 PM
Do we know what the "theme" is yet?
Oh yeah, sign me up!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: Bota-CS1 on February 27, 2014, 08:42:29 AM
Do we know what the "theme" is yet?
Oh yeah, sign me up!

I believe the RO's and organizers mentioned it'd be carbine next month.  They'll post a separate thread as the date gets closer.  Look forward to seeing everyone out there again.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: ajm008 on March 08, 2014, 08:07:38 PM
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When is the next carbine day... I think I am ready!!!
Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on March 08, 2014, 08:56:37 PM
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When is the next carbine day... I think I am ready!!!
mar 29 the last Saturday of the month.  I will be posting the sign up soon but this month will be carbine.
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Post by: Q on March 08, 2014, 10:54:18 PM
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Title: Re: HDF Range Days
Post by: dirtylickins on March 09, 2014, 11:45:05 PM
What happened to shotgun?
we dont have the proper equipment yet to hold a shottie session but its definitely on the future regime. Soon Q soon club just needs to obtain the goods