FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban (Read 30345 times)

changemyoil66

FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« on: February 07, 2025, 02:25:56 PM »
The hearing is the next day on 2/12 at 3pm, testimonies are due 24 hours prior.

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=401&year=2025
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edited by macsak
« Last Edit: February 07, 2025, 04:37:03 PM by macsak »

s15project

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2025, 03:32:16 PM »
« Last Edit: February 07, 2025, 04:43:27 PM by macsak »

Begle1

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2025, 08:37:10 PM »
any firearm or rifle with the capacity to fire ammunition of fifty caliber or higher

It still bans any shotgun 28 gauge and above, correct?

Why even bother saying anything? Let it pass and let Rhoads hoist himself on his own retard.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2025, 10:46:18 PM »
any firearm or rifle with the capacity to fire ammunition of fifty caliber or higher

It still bans any shotgun 28 gauge and above, correct?

Why even bother saying anything? Let it pass and let Rhoads hoist himself on his own retard.
Tell us you know nothing about firearms & HRS-134
without telling us you know nothing about firearms & HRS-134.

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§134-1  Definitions.  As used in this chapter, unless the context indicates otherwise:

"Firearm" means any weapon, for which the operating force is an
explosive, including but not limited to pistols, revolvers, rifles, shotguns,
automatic firearms, noxious gas projectors, mortars, bombs, and cannon.
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0001.htm

A rifle IS a firearm, just like shotguns, revolvers and pistols.  "Firearm or rifle" is redundant and embarrassing.

We are being governed by our inferiors.

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« Last Edit: February 07, 2025, 11:05:43 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

zippz

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2025, 11:01:22 PM »
About time they fixed this  [teflon] Teflon ::)

Begle1

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2025, 06:41:30 AM »
I propose we all support this one. Exactly as written, no amendments, and demand immediate, aggressive enforcement. I want to see every registered shotgun owner in the state get served letters demanding they turn their shotguns into the local PD lest they be confiscated at gunpoint and tried as felons.

Let's see it Karl. Let's see how your ultimate wet dream plays out on this one. Go for it. It'll be legendary.

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2025, 08:28:12 AM »
I propose we all support this one. Exactly as written, no amendments, and demand immediate, aggressive enforcement. I want to see every registered shotgun owner in the state get served letters demanding they turn their shotguns into the local PD lest they be confiscated at gunpoint and tried as felons.

Let's see it Karl. Let's see how your ultimate wet dream plays out on this one. Go for it. It'll be legendary.

What's dissapointing for it's like bill in the senate, no gun store submitted testimony.  With the exception of 1 FFL who was on zoom for the hearing (live testimony).  This would affect all their businesses. 

hvybarrels

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2025, 10:46:52 AM »
What's dissapointing for it's like bill in the senate, no gun store submitted testimony.  With the exception of 1 FFL who was on zoom for the hearing (live testimony).  This would affect all their businesses.

Huh. I guess they think they will make money no matter what.

I guess some thanks is due because now I have zero guilt for ordering online
If you think being a conspiracy theorist is crazy, imagine believing that the people in power have your best interests at heart.

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2025, 04:01:39 PM »
5 support
300 oppose

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2025, 05:05:39 PM »
Only Decorte voted nay.

changemyoil66

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2025, 07:28:03 AM »
They gutted and replaced this bill. INstead of it just being a 50 cal ban, it is now an "assault weapons" ban and mag ban. Basically mimics HB893 bill that died.

Begle1

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2025, 07:49:09 AM »
Ah yeah don't you love it.

QUIETShooter

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2025, 10:20:19 AM »
This is what happens when voters don't hold the legislators and senators accountable for their actions.

The asshats feel they can make anykine, anykine.  And they're getting away with it.

Even though you didn't vote for them, you can still call, question, and challenge their actions.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

hvybarrels

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2025, 12:49:22 AM »
That’s a pretty scumbag move right there. They wouldn’t try it if they didn’t think they had enough radical judges to support it. I’m all for a constitutional crisis at this point. If the system isn’t purged this will just keep happening
If you think being a conspiracy theorist is crazy, imagine believing that the people in power have your best interests at heart.

k3k0a808

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2025, 06:45:12 AM »
it looks like after they changed it up there was a swing in votes? 8 no's to 2 aye's?

macsak

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2025, 09:11:41 AM »
they only report reservations and nays
everything else is an aye...

it looks like after they changed it up there was a swing in votes? 8 no's to 2 aye's?

hvybarrels

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2025, 01:08:44 PM »
Let me know when the rally is. I don't have facebook.
If you think being a conspiracy theorist is crazy, imagine believing that the people in power have your best interests at heart.

jc2721

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2025, 04:46:47 PM »
HHAA (the gun show club) sent out an email regarding this--using the Legislature's online directory I was able to call 15-16 legislators in about 40 minutes.  Keep it short and simple, be clear that you are opposed to SB 401 and/or support your constitutional (2a) rights. 

ren

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #18 on: April 03, 2025, 05:53:24 PM »
spoke to Nadine Nakamura's staffer told him I oppose the bill and asked why did they gut and replace the original bill, he said he has no idea what bills are for what >:( Glad our tax monies are going to such competent people :thumbsup: :grrr:
Deeds Not Words

QUIETShooter

Re: FIRE MISSION SB401 due by 2/11 at 3pm 50 cal ban
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2025, 07:06:38 PM »
They just show up for the paycheck.

This kind of behavior would never fly if these people were to work jobs in the private sector.

Don't have no idea what's going on?  Get da f*ck outta here.  And you better run because I have every intention to have that door hit you in the ass on your way out.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.