Thanks guys!!!

Don’t forget that your old affidavit is now invalid.  So you have to take a class from one of the HPD approved trainers to get a new affidavit needed to apply for a pistol permit

Macsac,
I was wondering about that

I don’t know hunting etiquette/courtesy .  I’m thinking some in his group wouldn’t be real happy about spooking all the deer in the area when zeroing his scope.

I guess if he and his son were far from the rest of their group, it would be ok??

Thanks Randay!!

Is 6.8 spc ammo difficult to find locally?

(I already own a 7.62x39 upper and have parts to build a 20” fluted Heavy Barrel 6.5 Grendel upper and a small case of Grendel Amax)

If 6.8 spc ammo is easy to find and not to crazy in price, I may pick up a 6.8 upper for 99.99% range fun and 0.01% of hunting pig/deer on the outer isles

I was talking to a Maui guy and he loves his 6.8 and he is a reloader. 

I’m too lazy to reload

Out of a 16” barrel, Grendel and SPC are about the same out to 300yards so maybe I’ll just put a 16” on the Grendel

Thanks in advance!

Thanks DV.  Thanks Neesh.
What bono do you have?   I think I just have a cheap vortex 10x42

I guess my 1-4x24 will be adequate for Oahu for pigs.  I guess my other scopes will be ok for the outer isles

I’ve never heard of Vector.  I try to stick with vortex due to the price point and lifetime transferable warranty

Flapp is knowledgeable so I’m sure he is right.

For me, if the pistol got lost in transit, I would rather a local FFL deal with the situation

I used Danger Close in the past to ship out pistols

Yeah…I have no balls.   Lost them decades ago when I got married

Tex
Thanks for the recommendations!  I had been looking thru the AA site before - I noticed the 3-9 scopes used uncapped turrets…. I probably would get something that had capped turrets.

I hadn’t looked at 4-12 or 4-16 scopes because I thought 4x was too high but your suggestion of using a red dot changes that!

If Hawaii outlaws semiauto rifles, I think I’ll put in an adjustable gas key and put the screw all the way in - to convert the 7.62x39 ar to a bolt action

I have an adjustable gas block for the grendel build, so I could turn off the gas to run it as a bolt action

But if I have to use bolt, I might as well use the 7mm-08 since it is the lightest

Q
Thanks for the advice!  I’ll take a look at Primary arms.  I can’t afford another rifle so I’ll likely just use the 7mm-08 since it probably is lighter than the bolt 7.62x39 ar or bolt grendel ar.

Thanks Ramsay!  Thanks Al!

Dang!  I skimmed thru sb 3196

Sounds like I can only use a “neutered” ar to hunt on my own property or private property….sounds like I can’t use it in public hunting areas

Kind of makes me wonder if that is the reason why it seems like I notice more ar stuff being listed for sale

Edited 2/25/2024 to add:
Lpvo 1-4x24, 1-8x24, etc) should be ok to 3-6x magnification depending on my eye pupil (probably 4-6mm in low light).  Objective lense / magnification = scope exit pupil

24mm/4x = 6mm scope exit pupil
24mm/6x = 4mm scope exit pupil

If the scope exit pupil > 6mm, my eye won’t see the difference

If I try 8x magnification:
24mm/8x = 3mm scope exit pupil.  My eye will notice a dimmer sight picture

So Lpvo (small 24mm objective lense) will be dim after 6x magnification

So my 1-4x24 will likely be ok for me for low light on Oahu (pig hunting ok,  goat hunting nope)

https://imaging.nikon.com/sport-optics/guide/binoculars/basic/basic_05/#:~:text=The%20larger%20the%20diameter%20is,situations%20and%20for%20astronomical%20observation.

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2/15/24
Sorry, I know there is a hunting section but don’t think it has much traffic

I am trying to talk myself into trying hunting again.  Read that a 2-7x32  or a 3-9x40 with an illuminated reticle should be adequate for under 200 yards.   I think when my dad or friends took us hunting on Lanai, all the shots taken were under 200.  I don’t think that I would take a shot over 200…

I also read that 1-4x24, 1-6x24 and 1-8x24 make poor hunting scopes because a 24mm objective lense is too small.  Will not be able to see in low lighting (dawn/dusk)

I have a 7.62x39 AR with a Nikon 1-4x24 (illuminated reticle) for Oahu  Now I’m wondering if I should swap in my 2-7x32 (no illuminated reticle)

I still have to assemble a 6.5 grendel AR.   I had been thinking of using a spare Nikon 1-4x24 (illuminated) for Oahu and a Nikon 3-9x40 (no illumination) for deer on Maui, Molokai or Lanai

Have a Marlin 7mm-08 with a Nikon 3-9x40

Anyone using a 1-4x24, 1-6x24 or a 1-8x24 for Oahu?   Is it really that bad? 

Does having an illuminated reticle for a 2-7x32 or 3-9x40 make a major difference?  It would suck to fork out a lot of money to go outer islands and miss an opportunity because I cheaped out on a scope

If I get an illuminated scope, will likely be a vortex (Nvm….their higher end stuff are for tactical shooting)

Thanks in advance!