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General Discussion / Don't obey commands and get paid
« on: April 24, 2025, 11:31:19 AM »
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2025/04/23/hawaii-news/state-set-to-pay-750000-in-wrongful-death-settlement/?HSA=634362ae78556ca9425afb78a6e4466c7f5fccda&fbclid=IwY2xjawJ3hwZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFCTXdkbnhVTFR3bk5RQ25lAR54wTE5U1tz0Suor1sbcspQBTOHWOVxLTeD3WQsep4KcD2gvXwM3YY4XwMCHA_aem_0Gy9JkS34BmYz7UusaxmeQ
Recap:
In 2019 a guy was shot in the back at the capitol about 9pm while drinking.
Ordered to pour the drink and he refused and an argument began
Sheriff called for back up, but didn't wait because he stated "I thought I could take him". See below
Sheriff is 6'2; 205lbs; guy who got shot is 5'3 and 117lbs and had surgery on his leg for Polio years prior.
No video evidence, despite cameras at the Capitol.
"Lost" evidence as No body cam by the 8 officers who responded and no video of the interview by HPD at the capitol.
Evidence suggest the sheriff was pushing the guy onto his stomach when the gun went off.
Sheriff moved to CA and was involved in 2 more shootings.
State to settle for $750,000.
Opinion
Sounds like he didn't know how to deal with someone who's intoxicated. Why his gun was drawn is a good question and it seems like poor weapon handling (finger on the trigger) if the events are correct since he was pushing the guy onto his stomach while gun drawn or trying to tackle someone with 1 hand holding his gun. If he is drawn, he should have created distance.
So much video evidence missing is a more important concern. I remember we had this discussion about body cams and how it's easy for stuff to go missing. Here shows not 1 camera footage, but 8 different ones.
He should have waited for back up because you never know the strength or training someone else has. And having more back up can help to deescalate the situation. Or even what diseases the person has. He thinking he could take the guy cause he's bigger than him is the wrong train of though.
Recap:
In 2019 a guy was shot in the back at the capitol about 9pm while drinking.
Ordered to pour the drink and he refused and an argument began
Sheriff called for back up, but didn't wait because he stated "I thought I could take him". See below
Sheriff is 6'2; 205lbs; guy who got shot is 5'3 and 117lbs and had surgery on his leg for Polio years prior.
No video evidence, despite cameras at the Capitol.
"Lost" evidence as No body cam by the 8 officers who responded and no video of the interview by HPD at the capitol.
Evidence suggest the sheriff was pushing the guy onto his stomach when the gun went off.
Sheriff moved to CA and was involved in 2 more shootings.
State to settle for $750,000.
Opinion
Sounds like he didn't know how to deal with someone who's intoxicated. Why his gun was drawn is a good question and it seems like poor weapon handling (finger on the trigger) if the events are correct since he was pushing the guy onto his stomach while gun drawn or trying to tackle someone with 1 hand holding his gun. If he is drawn, he should have created distance.
So much video evidence missing is a more important concern. I remember we had this discussion about body cams and how it's easy for stuff to go missing. Here shows not 1 camera footage, but 8 different ones.
He should have waited for back up because you never know the strength or training someone else has. And having more back up can help to deescalate the situation. Or even what diseases the person has. He thinking he could take the guy cause he's bigger than him is the wrong train of though.