KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22 (Read 31668 times)

changemyoil66

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #60 on: September 26, 2022, 12:00:04 PM »
Two weeks to stop the spread

This officially ends the thread.  You win bro.  :rofl:

Flapp_Jackson

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #61 on: September 26, 2022, 01:52:16 PM »
I have never been to a mainland outdoor range, but like I posted earlier, I've seen the RO's eating multiple times.

All depends on who owns it -- i.e. the property owner.

Most open ranges have a "We are not responsible -- use at your own risk" sign to avoid legal issues.

If it's a private area just being made available for anyone to use, there is usually a collection box for donations and a list of rules posted.  #1 rule is usually stop shooting if someone is walking beyond the benches.  #2 is usually don't walk beyond the benches if someone is shooting.  As long as the shooters communicate with each other, safety is self-regulating ... i.e. no RSO required.

There are cans for trash and used targets, and usually rules against shooting anything that leaves a mess, like bowling pins and glass bottles.  Too hard to clean up even if you try to keep the area clean-ish.

If the range is state, city or county property, they'll normally run it like most parks:  someone is on duty to oversee safety and call for help if there's a need. 

Most of these places are not often packed with people.  In fact, it's usually one or two groups or individuals at a time.  If someone is being unsafe, it's best to wait until they leave -- sit in the car or come back later.  Most people don't spend half a day shooting.  They get bored or use up their ammo.  Serious shooters take longer and are safer.  The guy just there to feel the recoil and hear the noise isn't honing his skills.

The cost of indoor range time was super-cheap on the mainland, and you could bring in your own ammo.  They might check for steel projectiles with a magnet or require only factory loads, but using bulk ammo you bought cheaper than by-the-box isn't a problem.

I usually bought my targets there unless I knew they had a limited supply/selection.  Don't buy a second target until you need it.  Saves you from keeping and returning with it if it's unused.

And you should always police your brass!  Leaving it there no matter whose property it is just makes someone else deal with it.  Every indoor range I visited lately required you to dump your spent brass into buckets for the range to sell or reload -- it helps keep their, and your, range costs down.

I prefer an indoor range that lets shooters just shoot without a bunch of "Do's and Do-Not's".  Those places will supervise the obviously less experienced patrons and correct them on the spot.  Way better than making them read a page of rules and sign it.

PSA in SC has an excellent range, and the first time you go means signing a few forms for safety education and legal liability.  If you're a Vet, they let you shoot for free on holidays like Memorial Day.  I used my ammo and their targets.  Cost me $3 in targets for 2 hours on a range with state-of-the-art lanes.   :geekdanc: :thumbsup:
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

hk45c

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #62 on: September 26, 2022, 05:23:35 PM »
Now closed until mid November.  It was supposed to only be closed for October.

Where does it say that?  The site just says closed until further notice.
http://khsc.info/

I think it used to describe the refurbish work for the berm but now it just says "until further notice".  Seems like a bad sign to me.

I have seen road side signs about roadwork scheduled to start in 2019 that are still up, so not exactly holding my breath until they reopen, haha.

changemyoil66

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #63 on: September 26, 2022, 06:19:08 PM »
Where does it say that?  The site just says closed until further notice.
http://khsc.info/

I think it used to describe the refurbish work for the berm but now it just says "until further notice".  Seems like a bad sign to me.

I have seen road side signs about roadwork scheduled to start in 2019 that are still up, so not exactly holding my breath until they reopen, haha.
HRA posted about it.

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ren

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #64 on: October 07, 2022, 09:19:45 AM »
Range work pushed back to Oct 17th...
Deeds Not Words

powder monkey

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #65 on: October 07, 2022, 03:24:18 PM »
Range work pushed back to Oct 17th...

Heard same thing

MassConfusion

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #66 on: October 07, 2022, 03:43:24 PM »
All depends on who owns it -- i.e. the property owner.

Most open ranges have a "We are not responsible -- use at your own risk" sign to avoid legal issues.

If it's a private area just being made available for anyone to use, there is usually a collection box for donations and a list of rules posted.  #1 rule is usually stop shooting if someone is walking beyond the benches.  #2 is usually don't walk beyond the benches if someone is shooting.  As long as the shooters communicate with each other, safety is self-regulating ... i.e. no RSO required.

There are cans for trash and used targets, and usually rules against shooting anything that leaves a mess, like bowling pins and glass bottles.  Too hard to clean up even if you try to keep the area clean-ish.

If the range is state, city or county property, they'll normally run it like most parks:  someone is on duty to oversee safety and call for help if there's a need. 

Most of these places are not often packed with people.  In fact, it's usually one or two groups or individuals at a time.  If someone is being unsafe, it's best to wait until they leave -- sit in the car or come back later.  Most people don't spend half a day shooting.  They get bored or use up their ammo.  Serious shooters take longer and are safer.  The guy just there to feel the recoil and hear the noise isn't honing his skills.

The cost of indoor range time was super-cheap on the mainland, and you could bring in your own ammo.  They might check for steel projectiles with a magnet or require only factory loads, but using bulk ammo you bought cheaper than by-the-box isn't a problem.

I usually bought my targets there unless I knew they had a limited supply/selection.  Don't buy a second target until you need it.  Saves you from keeping and returning with it if it's unused.

And you should always police your brass!  Leaving it there no matter whose property it is just makes someone else deal with it.  Every indoor range I visited lately required you to dump your spent brass into buckets for the range to sell or reload -- it helps keep their, and your, range costs down.

I prefer an indoor range that lets shooters just shoot without a bunch of "Do's and Do-Not's".  Those places will supervise the obviously less experienced patrons and correct them on the spot.  Way better than making them read a page of rules and sign it.

PSA in SC has an excellent range, and the first time you go means signing a few forms for safety education and legal liability.  If you're a Vet, they let you shoot for free on holidays like Memorial Day.  I used my ammo and their targets.  Cost me $3 in targets for 2 hours on a range with state-of-the-art lanes.   :geekdanc: :thumbsup:
My father had belonged to an indoor range one town over for years.  This was back in NJ.  I was able to use it either with him or I was able to use it because of the town bullseye pistol league that encompassed 3 or 4 different towns.  The indoor range was nice if not a little dated, hardly ever saw anyone there when I did go.  It was something like 15-20 lanes with auto wire target runners which they had updated from steel stands at some point.  Never saw a RO. 
Also belonged to an outdoor range that was maybe 25 minutes from where I use to live as well.  This one had something like 5 different areas, skeet, 300, 100 yrd rifle ranges, pistol, silhouette and archery.  Something like that.  There was a full time live in RO and one assistant that basically lived there and they only time they ever really bothered you was when you were "rapid firing" or caught you doing something super unsafe for which you might get banned from the range.  I think i paid something like 200 or 300 a year for that place.  Could bring a friend a few times as well before they made them become a member, if you like it buy it.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. ― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 “The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.” ― Mark Twain

Flapp_Jackson

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #67 on: October 07, 2022, 04:03:10 PM »
My father had belonged to an indoor range one town over for years.  This was back in NJ.  I was able to use it either with him or I was able to use it because of the town bullseye pistol league that encompassed 3 or 4 different towns.  The indoor range was nice if not a little dated, hardly ever saw anyone there when I did go.  It was something like 15-20 lanes with auto wire target runners which they had updated from steel stands at some point.  Never saw a RO. 
Also belonged to an outdoor range that was maybe 25 minutes from where I use to live as well.  This one had something like 5 different areas, skeet, 300, 100 yrd rifle ranges, pistol, silhouette and archery.  Something like that.  There was a full time live in RO and one assistant that basically lived there and they only time they ever really bothered you was when you were "rapid firing" or caught you doing something super unsafe for which you might get banned from the range.  I think i paid something like 200 or 300 a year for that place.  Could bring a friend a few times as well before they made them become a member, if you like it buy it.

What I liked most about the mainland is you have options.  You can pay for wherever you like most, or save money to use a "no frills" private range.  Some were better for pistol, others for rifle, still others great for both.  We had a skeet-only range on Tinker AFB.  Drove all around the end of the main runway, and it was a trailer next to 2 full skeet layouts with self-service towers.  You pay a couple of bucks per round to help them buy more clay targets, load the catapults in the towers, and carry the control box with you as you moved to each position.  Shooters would run the towers for each other.  When finished, the place was still open about an hour past sunset if you wanted a couple of beers.

So, no matter where you were, there was always a place where you could "go do some shooting" without making it a big production. 

The main range we used was in Midwest City a couple blocks outside the base main gate.  It was convenient for 3-4 people in my office to meet up after work and shoot together.  .38 Special wadcutters were about 10 cents per round.   :thumbsup:
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

MassConfusion

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #68 on: October 07, 2022, 04:17:02 PM »
What I liked most about the mainland is you have options.  You can pay for wherever you like most, or save money to use a "no frills" private range.  Some were better for pistol, others for rifle, still others great for both.  We had a skeet-only range on Tinker AFB.  Drove all around the end of the main runway, and it was a trailer next to 2 full skeet layouts with self-service towers.  You pay a couple of bucks per round to help them buy more clay targets, load the catapults in the towers, and carry the control box with you as you moved to each position.  Shooters would run the towers for each other.  When finished, the place was still open about an hour past sunset if you wanted a couple of beers.

So, no matter where you were, there was always a place where you could "go do some shooting" without making it a big production. 

The main range we used was in Midwest City a couple blocks outside the base main gate.  It was convenient for 3-4 people in my office to meet up after work and shoot together.  .38 Special wadcutters were about 10 cents per round.   :thumbsup:
I could always just head out into the woods during hunting season with my shotgun and screw around that way.  Maybe bring home some squirrel Mcnuggets, not much to eat on them besides the legs.  The town had a pistol range that was for the police to shoot at, the bullseye team could use it as well.  I use to go over there occasionally and pick up all the brass the popo use to leave behind after their practice/qualifying.  Got probably 2k cases a year from that.  The place was basically a hillside with a public road maybe 100 feet away.  I don't think that would fly around here.
If we felt saucy we would go here http://www.thundermt.com/.  Fun place to shoot skeet.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. ― Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 “The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.” ― Mark Twain

Flapp_Jackson

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #69 on: October 07, 2022, 04:31:47 PM »
I could always just head out into the woods during hunting season with my shotgun and screw around that way.  Maybe bring home some squirrel Mcnuggets, not much to eat on them besides the legs.  The town had a pistol range that was for the police to shoot at, the bullseye team could use it as well.  I use to go over there occasionally and pick up all the brass the popo use to leave behind after their practice/qualifying.  Got probably 2k cases a year from that.  The place was basically a hillside with a public road maybe 100 feet away.  I don't think that would fly around here.
If we felt saucy we would go here http://www.thundermt.com/.  Fun place to shoot skeet.

Reminds me of the first time I ever shot "skeet."

It was at a Boy Scout outing (Father/Son Day).  Since my dad wasn't in the picture, my uncle went with me. 

There was a treehouse type building with a large net in front. The workers would use a manual skeet sling to toss the clay targets while you tried to hit them with a .22 rifle!  Yep.  A .22!  You got 2 rounds to try and hit one.  I got lucky and hit the first one, but missed the second.  My uncle said, "I'm gonna have to take you quail hunting!" (never did)

The net was to catch and collect the unbroken targets, of which 99% were undamaged -- go figure.

Later, I was in awe at how much less challenging it is using a 12 gauge!  :rofl:  :thumbsup: :geekdanc:
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

stangzilla

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2022, 11:10:36 AM »
A friend told me that a LGS told him that kokohead will be closed 6-12 months
Any truth to that? Or is that just 3rd party info exaggerated

punaperson

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #71 on: October 08, 2022, 01:36:09 PM »
A friend told me that a LGS told him that kokohead will be closed 6-12 months
Any truth to that? Or is that just 3rd party info exaggerated
Well, you know the plan is permanent closure. Is anyone with that goal going to say it out loud, or even say how long the temporary closure will be until they can get the permanent closure enacted? Doubt it.

Remember, the chief said he'd be issuing carry licenses "by the end of August". Just another example.

Kalikikopa

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #72 on: October 08, 2022, 03:55:31 PM »
A friend told me that a LGS told him that kokohead will be closed 6-12 months
Any truth to that? Or is that just 3rd party info exaggerated

A police officer I talked to said they got a notice that the range was closed indefinitely.  I'm hoping that to mean until further notice.

robtmc

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #73 on: October 08, 2022, 04:09:41 PM »
A police officer I talked to said they got a notice that the range was closed indefinitely.
Somewhere in Hawaii Kai, Knudsen is popping open the champagne.

A plan is coming together.

ren

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #74 on: October 08, 2022, 04:14:03 PM »
Deeds Not Words

Rhed

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #75 on: October 08, 2022, 04:14:45 PM »
Somewhere in Hawaii Kai, Knudsen is popping open the champagne.

A plan is coming together.

Bet the indoor range owners is popping champagne with Knudsen too!

ren

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #76 on: October 08, 2022, 04:15:56 PM »
Bet the indoor range owners is popping champagne with Knudsen too!
and raising rates
Deeds Not Words

Akubone1

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #77 on: October 08, 2022, 06:09:23 PM »
A police officer I talked to said they got a notice that the range was closed indefinitely.  I'm hoping that to mean until further notice.

Not surprised.  I don’t think they have the ROs to open the range anytime soon.  Hopefully they come up a with a plan to monitor lead.  Today I did a good cleaning on the rifles and prepped them for long term storage just in case.

changemyoil66

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #78 on: October 08, 2022, 06:46:49 PM »
1 lesson learned is dont put off shooting/training. Those who practiced consistanlty will be better off compared to those who havent shot all year.

Like buying preps only when get hurricane warning.

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Rhed

Re: KHSC closed starting today 9-16-22
« Reply #79 on: October 08, 2022, 08:05:29 PM »