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Technical Support / Re: I'm having problems posting pics to my posting
« on: November 14, 2017, 08:02:38 AM »
Sorry guys. You should be able to upload now.
General Discussion / MOVED: Hawaii Shooting Calendar and Directory
« on: June 14, 2017, 08:37:45 AM »
Preparedness and Survival / Re: Dehydrating
« on: April 25, 2017, 10:59:08 AM »
Hmmm, interesting use of a dehydrator.
My neighbor gave me some odd fruit that I have never seen before.
I had to Google it to find out what the heck it is. See the pic in the previous message and take a guess.

Anyway, it's going into some fruit rollup now...

Is it star apple? or a plum, but that wouldn't be too wild :D
Legal and Activism / Re: New from mossberg. Hawaii legal?
« on: April 25, 2017, 10:48:40 AM »
When I went through the lengthy process of getting an answer on this from the Hilo office (after providing them with three separate rulings by BATFE that the firearm in question was NOT a shotgun) I was first told "If it shoots a shotgun shell, it is a shotgun". I asked them where that legal definition existed in HRS. They gave me no answer. I then asked about a Taurus Judge model revolver chambered for .410 bore shot shells and the .45 Colt cartridge and why, since that shoots shotgun shells, they register it as a pistol when they just told me a definition that means it's clearly a shotgun (and one that's WAY too short!). They then made up a new definition/rule/law: "If it fires shotgun shells exclusively, then it's a shotgun." So if someone modified an .410 shotgun by shortening it and so it would fire .45 Colt cartridges, that firearm would be legal according to the Hawaii County "interpretation" (aka "made up shit") of the law, but it would NOT be legal by BATFE standards since you can't "modify" (make shorter) an ordinary (manufactured as full length) shotgun into a "firearm". I'm sure confronted with this possibility the county would just make up more shit, but at that point I gave up because it's clear they can do and say and make up anything they want to and all we can do is get arrested and go to jail for not following the shit they make up.  :crazy:

If you want to continue to play games with them, "shotguns" don't only shoot shot shells.
Technical Support / Re: SSL Certificate Expired for
« on: April 03, 2017, 08:04:12 AM »
Sorry, for the wait.
General Discussion / MOVED: Hawaii turns Republican !
« on: March 20, 2017, 06:41:38 AM »
Alright, cleaned up the thread a bit. Enough of the childish games.
Off Topic / Re: 03150405
« on: February 17, 2017, 08:48:57 AM »
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General Discussion / MOVED: Golf aka Flog
« on: February 14, 2017, 03:23:32 PM »
Off Topic / Re: Well that ended quickley
« on: December 28, 2016, 01:25:26 PM »
As I recall there is no permits needed if only flying the drones indoors.

Hah. It made me chuckle.
Technical Support / Re: Problems posting reply
« on: December 28, 2016, 09:54:41 AM »
Are you posting through web or tapatalk? If web, are you using the standard blue/white theme? Email me admin@2aHawaii if you can't post a reply here.
General Discussion / Re: 12over6
« on: December 23, 2016, 09:55:51 AM »
I'm getting a 404, which means it's probably not internet visible. May want to check that it's not just on an internally accessible only site.
FAQs / Re: Getting and registering a gun in Hawaii
« on: December 19, 2016, 01:17:08 PM »
Hello all,

New comer to the forum and to HI as well. Looking at a potential move to The Big Island and am seeking some guidance.
Initial concern was do I need to establish residency and obtain a valid HI issued ID to register any firearms I bring with me from out-of-state, but saw on previous post out-of-state ID is good to go.

Do I fill the FIREARM INFORMATION FORM with the same info on my out-of-state address listed on my Driver's License?
(I Should have a local HI address to fill under 'business address', could that be written in both address sections?)

Also is there a limit of the number of registrations done at once or within a certain time period?

Lastly looking for some more info for BIG ISLAND PRACTICAL SHOOTERS, or any other practical shooting on BI.
Just sent an email to the listed contact on but curious if any members of the club are on the forum.

Thanks again,

For your first two questions, here is the applicable HRS (Hawaii Revised Statute) quoted for emphasis

     §134-3  Registration, mandatory, exceptions.  (a)  Every person arriving in the State who brings or by any other manner causes to be brought into the State a firearm of any description, whether usable or unusable, serviceable or unserviceable, modern or antique, shall register the firearm within five days after arrival of the person or of the firearm, whichever arrives later, with the chief of police of the county of the person's place of business or, if there is no place of business, the person's residence or, if there is neither a place of business nor residence, the person's place of sojourn.  A nonresident alien may bring firearms not otherwise prohibited by law into the State for a continuous period not to exceed ninety days; provided that the person meets the registration requirement of this section and the person possesses:
     (1)  A valid Hawaii hunting license procured under chapter 183D, part II, or a commercial or private shooting preserve permit issued pursuant to section 183D-34;

     (2)  A written document indicating the person has been invited to the State to shoot on private land; or

     (3)  Written notification from a firing range or target shooting business indicating that the person will actually engage in target shooting.

The nonresident alien shall be limited to a nontransferable registration of not more than ten firearms for the purpose of the above activities.
     Every person registering a firearm under this subsection shall be fingerprinted and photographed by the police department of the county of registration; provided that this requirement shall be waived where fingerprints and photographs are already on file with the police department.  The police department shall perform an inquiry on the person by using the National Instant Criminal Background Check System before any determination to register a firearm is made.
     (b)  Every person who acquires a firearm pursuant to section 134-2 shall register the firearm in the manner prescribed by this section within five days of acquisition.  The registration shall be on forms prescribed by the attorney general, which shall be uniform throughout the State, and shall include the following information:  name of the manufacturer and importer; model; type of action; caliber or gauge; serial number; and source from which receipt was obtained, including the name and address of the prior registrant.  If the firearm has no serial number, the permit number shall be entered in the space provided for the serial number, and the permit number shall be engraved upon the receiver portion of the firearm prior to registration.  All registration data that would identify the individual registering the firearm by name or address shall be confidential and shall not be disclosed to anyone, except as may be required for processing the registration or as may be required by a law enforcement agency for the lawful performance of its duties or as may be required by order of a court.
     (c)  Dealers licensed under section 134-31 or dealers licensed by the United States Department of Justice shall register firearms pursuant to this section on registration forms prescribed by the attorney general and shall not be required to have the firearms physically inspected by the chief of police at the time of registration.
     (d)  Registration shall not be required for:
     (1)  Any device that is designed to fire loose black powder or that is a firearm manufactured before 1899;

     (2)  Any device not designed to fire or made incapable of being readily restored to a firing condition; or

     (3)  All unserviceable firearms and destructive devices registered with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms of the United States Department of Justice pursuant to Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations.

     (e)  No fee shall be charged for the registration of a firearm under this section, except for a fee chargeable by and payable to the registering county for persons registering a firearm under subsection (a), in an amount equal to the fee actually charged by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to the registering police department for a fingerprint check in connection with the registration.  In the case of a joint registration, the fee provided for in this section may be charged to each person. [L 1988, c 275, pt of §2; am L 1994, c 204, §4; am L 1999, c 217, §2; am L 2007, c 9, §7; am L 2013, c 254, §2]
General Discussion / Re: A Question About Traveling With FIrearms
« on: December 13, 2016, 03:17:28 PM »
The law of the land you are in is what you have to abide by. The only exception to this is if you're traveling through a place with your final destination being in some other state. (information about the last bit here
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