In my opinion conspiracy theories like these are counter productive and insulting.  And people wonder why the democrats are in power.

did  a CTRL F for Democrat in this thread.....

Which side do you think is posting these ridiculous conspiracies?

I can appreciate that position, but who really knows what are “conspiracy theories” and what are “conspiracy facts”?   

What was “conspiracy theories” 2 years ago are just being swept under the rug now by the people who should be held accountable.

Most conspiracies are proven false, but the few more realistic ones that are true give too much credibility to them all.  We should be skeptical of many things but government officials drinking baby blood and using lasers to start fires are just ridiculous.   Just giving more fuel to the democrats to sway the independents.

Which side do you think is posting these ridiculous conspiracies?

Do you really think the government used lasers to destroy maui?

Best to find out is from the folks at Lahaina themselves.   Some of them have perished but there are a lot that are currently living like refugees. 

Before labeling their current trouble as just “conspiracy theories”, reach out to the affected to see what kind of plight they are in right now.  Maui is just a short flight over and you may know some people who have been affected by this.

> Permits to rebuild being stalled (told for a few years).
They have to get through initial recovery and debris cleanup first, which is likely to take the better part of a year… at least.  If someone were to apply for a permit to rebuild right now, I would expect the county to not approve immediately.


> Insurance companies being difficult in processing claims.
Of course they are.  They ALWAYS are; they’ve got to protect themselves against fraud, or else EVERYBODY’S rates go up.

> Prevented by federal and state government from going back to their homes.
Maybe because the area is still very hazardous, and there are likely many many more sets of remains left to be recovered?

> No comms (internet or phones not working in the area)
Well, the entire infrastructure burned, so that might take a minute to come back.

> Neighbors or relatives having 20+ people stay with them
Would you rather have them in a “FEMA camp”?

> State govt wanting to take control of the rebuilding of Lahaina
Who said they wanted “to take control of the rebuilding,” and when?  The government is going to have a role in rebuilding, without a doubt.  “Taking control” seems like a bit of a stretch.

Lahaina folks have just been hit by a life changing event.   If the gov’t cant help, then at least get out of the way and let the Lahaina community start to rebuild. 

With them getting in the way and stating their plans for rebuilding Lahaina, it just makes them appear even more suspicious and malicious.

Perhaps a lot of the speculation is wrong.   Only time will tell.

The question is… who benefits?   Will the folks of Lahaina actually benefit or be harmed by government actions and inaction?

Conspiracy theories will continue to flourish as long as there is corruption in government.

Conspiracy theories start when people distrust their government.

Conspiracy theories are here to stay because government officials continue to game the system to their benefit, not the people they swore to protect and serve.

People used to say mainstream media being influenced by politics was a conspiracy theory.  Some people say it still is a conspiracy theory, but it looks pretty evident it's not.

Time always reveals the truth.

Conspiracy theories start, and thrive, for a number of reasons.  Some (a few?) are started by charismatic “true believers” that grossly overestimate their ability to weigh evidence and think critically, while ironically also believing that they’re the ONLY ones who can weigh evidence and think critically.  Some (a lot?) start when somebody realizes they can gain influence, money, or both, by trotting out a theory backed by ambiguous evidence and speculation.  (“Want to know the real truth? Buy my book/gadget/cure and/or subscribe to my social media feed!”). Some are started and/or spread by people who “just want to watch the world burn.”  Some are true (think global communist conspiracy during the Cold War), most don’t ever pan out.  In many cases, people sign on to them because they don’t want to believe that really bad things can just randomly happen; somebody MUST be behind it… and if they can only take the power back from those elites, they can stop the bad things from happening.

But they can’t, because bad things DO happen due to random chance, and if they’re exacerbated, it’s more often because of incompetence rather than malice.

You may think differently, and that’s ok…

Conspiracy theories start, and thrive, for a number of reasons.  Some (a few?) are started by charismatic “true believers” that grossly overestimate their ability to weigh evidence and think critically, while ironically also believing that they’re the ONLY ones who can weigh evidence and think critically.  Some (a lot?) start when somebody realizes they can gain influence, money, or both, by trotting out a theory backed by ambiguous evidence and speculation.  (“Want to know the real truth? Buy my book/gadget/cure and/or subscribe to my social media feed!”). Some are started and/or spread by people who “just want to watch the world burn.”  Some are true (think global communist conspiracy during the Cold War), most don’t ever pan out.  In many cases, people sign on to them because they don’t want to believe that really bad things can just randomly happen; somebody MUST be behind it… and if they can only take the power back from those elites, they can stop the bad things from happening.

But they can’t, because bad things DO happen due to random chance, and if they’re exacerbated, it’s more often because of incompetence rather than malice.

You may think differently, and that’s ok…

https://www.mauinews.com/news/local-news/2022/12/the-year-in-review-maui-county-weathers-inflation-elections-and-public-corruption/

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/06/16/debrief-how-end-corruption-hawaiis-government-key-lawmakers-weigh/

Since someone mentioned Democrats. They've been in control forever - I think that is the problem.