Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan? (Read 9882 times)

Sodie

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2023, 04:44:42 PM »
“Conspiracy theorists” is a term invented by the CIA to smear anyone who notices that the government regularly works hand in hand with industry to commit crimes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

“The first records of the word conspiracy theory come from the early 1900s.”

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/conspiracy-theory#

“The National Security Act of 1947 established CIA as an independent, civilian intelligence agency within the executive branch.”

https://www.cia.gov/legacy/cia-history/

hvybarrels

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #41 on: August 20, 2023, 04:49:06 PM »
“The first records of the word conspiracy theory come from the early 1900s.”

So the CIA is only allowed to weaponize words that were created after 1947?

Where did you get that logic from? Hot Tub Time Machine?
“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

Sodie

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2023, 04:52:42 PM »
So the CIA is only allowed to weaponize words that were created after 1947?

Where did you get that logic from? Hot Tub Time Machine?

Quote from: also hvybarrels
“Conspiracy theorists” is a term invented by the CIA…

So a term that was in use in the early 1900s was invented by an organization that didn’t exist until 1947…?  :crazy:

hvybarrels

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2023, 05:08:27 PM »
“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

hvybarrels

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2023, 06:03:22 PM »
Stuff we are supposed to accept unquestioningly:

1. People in the government never have and never will conspire to commit a crime for power or personal gain

2. The mainstream news media and tech giants that regularly go out of their way to tell us how much the hate us are the only sources of information that can be trusted.

3. It's impossible for someone to have intentionally set multiple simultaneous fires on Maui because....SHUT UP CONSPIRACY THEORIST!
“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2023, 06:33:12 PM »
So a term that was in use in the early 1900s was invented by an organization that didn’t exist until 1947…?  :crazy:

if you dig a little deeper, the term conspiracy theory was included in American newspapers as early as 1874.

It's only been since the 1950s that the term became popular.  That's when the label took on the derogatory implication that the people believing them were under-educated and willing to accept complicated conspiracies to explain events where most times a simple, less conspiratorial explanation would suffice.

Some people claim the CIA invented it during the Kennedy assassination investigation.  That's because anyone who chose not to believe the official findings of the Warren Commission was quieted with accusations of being a conspiracy theorist.

Some say that story about the creation of the term is also a conspiracy theory.

 :wacko:  :popcorn:
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and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
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hvybarrels

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2023, 07:00:04 PM »

Some say that story about the creation of the term is also a conspiracy theory.

 :wacko:  :popcorn:

You gotta wonder about people on a pro-constitution forum who run to the defense of the very same national security state that’s trying to sentence Trump to the death penalty for mean tweets
“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

ren

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #47 on: August 20, 2023, 07:09:59 PM »
Do you really think the government used lasers to destroy maui?

Deeds Not Words

hvybarrels

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #48 on: August 20, 2023, 07:50:31 PM »
Space lasers makes a convenient distraction. Focus on the crazy and confuse the facts.

What we know for sure is that the Hawaii State government murdered hundreds of Maui residents and is actively planning to take over their land.

The only question that remains is if it was manslaughter or first degree
“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

changemyoil66

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #49 on: August 20, 2023, 08:56:52 PM »
Space lasers makes a convenient distraction. Focus on the crazy and confuse the facts.

What we know for sure is that the Hawaii State government murdered hundreds of Maui residents and is actively planning to take over their land.

The only question that remains is if it was manslaughter or first degree
The state/counties also made people take a untested via the standard method vaxx.

Made via coercine and lost jobs.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #50 on: August 20, 2023, 11:59:24 PM »
You gotta wonder about people on a pro-constitution forum who run to the defense of the very same national security state that’s trying to sentence Trump to the death penalty for mean tweets

I know.  Apparently the fable of the scorpion and the frog missed the mark with a bunch of people.

it's government's nature to control the population.  Propaganda, especially when it's from "trusted sources", is a very effective means of control.

The book 1984 needs an update -- with more current examples to drive the lessons home.
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

Jl808

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2023, 06:45:38 AM »
Hawaii Free Press newsletter had a ton of articles related to Maui so I am linking them here...   :shaka:

Locals lash out against Biden’s visit to Maui after deadly wildfires: ‘I don’t want him here’
… “He’s just coming to Maui to look good in front of the cameras.” ….
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Daily-News/ID/39667/August-17-2023-News-Read

Schatz Exploits ‘Toxic’ Hysteria: Lahaina fire debris could be worth $1B to my Campaign Contributors-Homeowners will have to stay out for one year while we …uh…’clean up’
… Race Underway To Literally Glue Down Lahaina Fire Ash Before Rains Wash Campaign Contributors Dreams Into The Ocean ….
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Daily-News/ID/39682/August-19-2023-News-Read

Sue Big Oil Lawyers: Biden Should Exploit Lahaina Visit to Make us Rich
... Biden Has Voiced Support for Similar 'Sue Big Oil' Cases ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39676/Sue-Big-Oil-Lawyers-Biden-Should-Exploit-Lahaina-Visit-to-Make-us-Rich

VIDEO: Hawaii Official Who Allegedly Withheld Water From Firefighters Says ‘Equity’ Comes First
... A Hawaiian Studies major, Kaleo prefers a traditional, holistic "One Water" approach where water is revered, not used.  Water requires "true conversations about equity" ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39675/VIDEO-Hawaii-Official-Who-Allegedly-Withheld-Water-From-Firefighters-Says-Equity-Comes-First

DLNR 'Reassigns' Hawaiian Activist Who Delayed Water Resupply for Lahaina Fire
... 'Hawaiian Cultural Practitioner' at DLNR is transferred to new job after allegedly prioritizing taro patch over Lahaina firefighting ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39665/DLNR-Reassigns-Hawaiian-Activist-Who-Delayed-Water-Resupply-for-Lahaina-Fire

Spin to Death: Sovereignty Lawyers Make Excuses for Refusal to Approve Lahaina Firefighting Water
… they guy who allegedly refused water for Lahaina firefighting has lots of friends--you need to know who they are ….
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Daily-News/ID/39662/August-16-2023-News-Read

“It’s a good ol’ boy network. This time it cost lives.”
… in 2017 Council Chair Mike White warned the job of emergency management was too important to be “subject to political influence” ….
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Daily-News/ID/39662/August-16-2023-News-Read

Andaya Quits: Was at Oahu 'Networking Event' as Lahaina Burned
... “It’s a good ol’ boy network. This time it cost lives.” ….
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39673/Andaya-Quits-Was-at-Oahu-Networking-Event-as-Lahaina-Burned

Coverup: Green Steers Lahaina Investigation Away from Criminality
… evidence of criminal or civil wrongdoing? Let the feds clean up our mess once more ….
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Daily-News/ID/39692/August-20-2023-News-Read

Hawaii Legislators Have Long Shortchanged Wildfire Protection: ‘We Could Have Saved Lives’
… the division had to borrow money from other divisions and funds to be able to do its job ….
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Daily-News/ID/39692/August-20-2023-News-Read

Lahaina Fire too Hot to Handle? Attorney General to hire outside firm to review decision-making
... The decision not to conduct a criminal investigation is a key element of the strategy to protect HECO from the fate that befell PG&E after the Camp Fire ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39632/Lahaina-Fire-too-Hot-to-Handle-Attorney-General-to-hire-outside-firm-to-review-decision-making

Bissen: Property Taxes Waived for Maui Fire Victims
... Anyone who has paid their taxes will receive a refund ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39669/Bissen-Property-Taxes-Waived-for-Maui-Fire-Victims

Green: "Its going to be a very long time before any housing can be built"
... "We’ll also invest state resources to preserve and protect this land for our people; not for any development"
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39661/Green-Its-going-to-be-a-very-long-time-before-any-housing-can-be-built

Land Grab: Use Eminent Domain to Seize all of Lahaina?
... a blatant “land grab” by the State, leaving the landowner with little to no choice other than to accept “just compensation” for the property, be pau and move on ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39690/Land-Grab-Use-Eminent-Domain-to-Seize-all-of-Lahaina

"We would probably see a mass exodus from Maui."
... "It would be potentially catastrophic if no one traveled to the island," Green said ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39650/We-would-probably-see-a-mass-exodus-from-Maui

Lahaina: Green wants moratorium
… Move to Las Vegas. We won’t let you rebuild anytime soon. ….
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Daily-News/ID/39653/August-15-2023-News-Read

Lahaina Rebuild to be Sole Focus of Governor’s Housing Emergency Task Force for next 60 Days
… The governor (claims he) is open to ideas that have been proposed before but (blocked by Green’s owner, the Carpenters Union) such as allowing modular and prefabricated housing in the islands that could be constructed “faster and cheaper” than conventional homes and housing structures ….
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Daily-News/ID/39678/August-18-2023-News-Read

Lahaina Residents to Green: “Your plan is not the plan. The plan gotta come from the people of Lahaina.”
… Lahaina: Restore Sunshine Law for Rebuild ….
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Daily-News/ID/39682/August-19-2023-News-Read

Housing proclamation raises ‘questions galore’
... it selectively grants regulatory relief to projects designated by a committee of housing “czars” ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39688/Housing-proclamation-raises-questions-galore

State Energy Officials: Hawaiian Electric Prioritized Green-Energy Push over Wildfire Prevention
... Hawaiian Electronic consequently invested less than a quarter-of-a-million dollars on wildfire-related projects ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39666/State-Energy-Officials-Hawaiian-Electric-Prioritized-Green-Energy-Push-over-Wildfire-Prevention

Hawaii’s Green Agenda Primed State for One of the Deadliest Wildfires in History
... it wasn't climate change--it was anti-climate change policies ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39679/Hawaiis-Green-Agenda-Primed-State-for-One-of-the-Deadliest-Wildfires-in-History

Deadly Hawaii Fires Are Result of Political and Policy Failures—Not Climate Change
... the left never lets a crisis go to waste ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39664/Deadly-Hawaii-Fires-Are-Result-of-Political-and-Policy-FailuresNot-Climate-Change

Maui: Tense Officials Defensive Over Failure to Sound Siren Alert
... tense as city and state officials shot back at questions from reporters over why sirens were not activated ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39671/Maui-Tense-Officials-Defensive-Over-Failure-to-Sound-Siren-Alert

Warning Not Heeded: 2018 Hurricane Lane Almost Torched Lahaina
… Hawaiian Electric Company’s Wildfire Strategy--Too Little Too Late ….
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Daily-News/ID/39647/August-14-2023-News-Read

To Protect HECO, State not pursuing criminal probe of Maui fire
… By contrast, following the previous deadliest modern U.S. wildfire in Northern California in 2018, the Butte County district attorney led an exhaustive criminal probe of the cause and response to the fire ….
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Daily-News/ID/39667/August-17-2023-News-Read

Maui fire will reshape Hawaiian Electric
… “To just say it was a political decision by the Ige administration to squash the merger is an understatement.” ….
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Daily-News/ID/39692/August-20-2023-News-Read

Fossil fuel giants fight for dismissal of climate change liability suit
... C&C of Honolulu and energy giants faced off over where the suit should be taken to trial ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39685/Fossil-fuel-giants-fight-for-dismissal-of-climate-change-liability-suit

HECO Suits: Two Vacant Hawaii Supreme Court Seats Loom Large
... Hawaii certainly has not adopted the California model of inverse condemnation liability for wildfires. So this will be a case of first impression ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39654/HECO-Suits-Two-Vacant-Hawaii-Supreme-Court-Seats-Loom-Large

Just the Beginning: S&P Downgrades Hawaiian Electric to Junk
... CreditWatch placement with negative implications reflects the potential for additional downgrades of one or more notches within the coming months ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39652/Just-the-Beginning-SP-Downgrades-Hawaiian-Electric-to-Junk

Lawsuit: HECO Should Have Depowered Lines
... Hawaiian Electric’s stock plunged 34% following the suits ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39651/Lawsuit-HECO-Should-Have-Depowered-Lines

Jones Act among protectionist U.S. policies that will drive up cost of rebuilding Lahaina
... protectionist U.S. policies will inflate the cost of the island’s rebuilding effort ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39689/Jones-Act-among-protectionist-US-policies-that-will-drive-up-cost-of-rebuilding-Lahaina

Realtors 'Cautioned' on Pressuring Lahaina Property Owners for Sales
... According to sources, these people have been cold-calling landowners in an attempt to purchase properties from those injured and to take advantage of their vulnerable situation ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39672/Realtors-Cautioned-on-Pressuring-Lahaina-Property-Owners-for-Sales

* * * * * FIRE RECOVERY NEWS * * * * *

Death Toll 1,000? About 45% of Lahaina searched “Probably still over 1,000” residents remain unaccounted
… The Lahaina fire was not put out. It burned until all fuel was exhausted. Many bodies were fully consumed by the flames leaving zero remains to be recovered. Eventually these people will be listed as missing, presumed killed in Lahaina Fire ….
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Daily-News/ID/39678/August-18-2023-News-Read

Let's stay focused on helping Lahaina fire victims--Eventually the Facts Will Come Out
waiving property taxes for the affected property owners
clearing the way for out-of-state medical professionals to attend to the needs of those affected by the tragedy
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39686/Lets-stay-focused-on-helping-Lahaina-fire-victims-Eventually-the-Facts-Will-Come-Out

Lahaina: ​Rise with Grace
... We can’t be shattered and split by opinions and savvy social media posts with catchy slogans but focused on working as one to build a better and more resilient community ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39655/Lahaina-Rise-with-Grace

DOD, FEMA Fully Engaged in Maui Recovery and Assistance Efforts
... DOD has 691 personnel in Maui who are engaged in planning, synchronizing and coordinating support to FEMA and the state of Hawaii. ...
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39684/DOD-FEMA-Fully-Engaged-in-Maui-Recovery-and-Assistance-Efforts

Housing task force created for Maui victims as death toll climbs
... Green said a temporary housing task force is working to secure housing for Maui victims and rescue workers ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39646/Housing-task-force-created-for-Maui-victims-as-death-toll-climbs

VIDEO: Green Address on Lahaina Fire, Rebuild
"...The land in Lāhainā is reserved for its people as they return and rebuild...."
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39681/VIDEO-Green-Address-on-Lahaina-Fire-Rebuild

FBI Helping Collect DNA to Locate and Identify Missing Persons in Lahaina
... asking all immediate family members—parents, siblings, and children—of those who are still missing to provide DNA samples ....
https://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/39677/FBI-Helping-Collect-DNA-to-Locate-and-Identify-Missing-Persons-in-Lahaina


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Rocky

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2023, 07:49:09 AM »
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

hvybarrels

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2023, 10:29:50 AM »
I know.  Apparently the fable of the scorpion and the frog missed the mark with a bunch of people.

it's government's nature to control the population.  Propaganda, especially when it's from "trusted sources", is a very effective means of control.

The book 1984 needs an update -- with more current examples to drive the lessons home.

My family and other acquaintances think that way. We don’t talk to each other much now.
Sometimes I forget how well The Ministry of Truth works on blue staters.
I shouldn’t make accusations that I don’t have any proof for.
It’s just frustrating that the playbook is to have everyone forget about this latest crime ASAP
They want to blame it on climate change/act of god and then bury the story like Ohio
“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

Jl808

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2023, 04:57:11 PM »


Families and children have been burned to ash and bones in their homes.  According to a local, 1400 people are unaccounted for.  450 people suspected dead, 4x higher than the official death count. 

Cadaver dogs brought in by FEMA to identify ash.  No room in the morgue and body bags had to be flown in.

Anything organized is being done by the local community and volunteers even from Honolulu, but there is no organized help from anyone else. 

Light search and rescue efforts continue but people are tired. 
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aletheuo137

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2023, 08:45:35 AM »
 

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hvybarrels

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2023, 07:28:22 PM »
Highlights from Biden's 6 hours in Hawaii

Watch till the end now. No cheating

“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

hvybarrels

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #57 on: August 24, 2023, 12:58:38 AM »
Here’s a good example of disinformation from the government. Garbage facts mixed in with emotional tugs. This is designed to discredit those who are seeking the truth and realize the official story is full of holes. YouTube algos are designed to suppress independent journalism, yet his was promoted. Lots of better stuff is showing up on Rumble. Just stay away from the space laser people or folks who tell you Lahaina is located on the slopes of Haleakala

“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

Jl808

Re: Was Lahaina part of the Agenda 2030 plan?
« Reply #58 on: August 24, 2023, 07:15:55 AM »
Here's some videos from from a Maui Real Estate agent. 
He has a bunch of anecdotal reports on his Youtube channel

Hawaii Real Estate channel  (a Maui Real Estate agent)
https://www.youtube.com/@hawaiirealestateorg/videos

8/24 Witness Confirms SOUTH End of Front Street ALSO BLOCKED Escape from Lahaina Maui Fire


8/23 Where are the children?


8/21 Shocking Eye Witness of Lahaina Maui Fire from Front Street Police Blocked Off the Exits


8/19 Maui Police Blocked Escape Routed as told by FISH from Front Street Found ALIVE!

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hvybarrels

“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”