exactly

"We will never know if Deedy was legally by definition intoxicated because a BAC and blood test was never taken."

which is different from your previous statement
"Moments later an intoxicated Deedy confronted Elderts,"

Also for Darmok and Jalad


http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/22933849/day-12-mcdonalds-workers-memory-questioned-in-deedy-murder-trial

Day 12: Shane Medeiros testifies in Deedy murder trial

Medeiros says Elderts didn't harass customer Michael Perrine at the food counter, despite many accounts of their exchange becoming racially charged.
"Perrine says 'I live in Hawaii too.' Kollin says 'That's cool.' He made it clear that he was joking. He made it clear," Medeiros said.




http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/574445/Witness-didn-t-feel-threatened-before-shooting.html?nav=5031

Witness didn’t feel threatened before shooting

HONOLULU (AP) - A man who defense attorneys claim was the target of bullying that led to a deadly confrontation between a federal agent and another man testified that he didn't feel threatened during the incident at a Waikiki fast-food restaurant.
Perrine testified that he had been drinking before going to the restaurant in the early hours of Nov. 5, 2011. He said he doesn't remember much about the encounter but did recall hearing Elderts use the word "haole," which means white person, but just shrugged it off.

"I don't feel like it was that threatening of a situation," Perrine said, according to KHON-TV.




http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/22845173/day-5-officer-says-deedy-looked-drunk-on-night-of-shooting

Day 5: Officer says Deedy looked drunk on night of shooting




http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/22856249/day-6-eyewitness-says-deedys-friends-inflamed-situation

Day 6: Eyewitness says Deedy threatened to shoot Elderts in the face

He said
 

Christopher Deedy appeared intoxicated


and was addressing Kollin Elderts with "drunken ramblings."




http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/22878314/day-8-supervising-police-officer-testifies-at-deedy-trial

Day 8: Supervising police officer explains why Deedy not checked for alcohol

"I could smell a strong odor of what appeared to be alcoholic beverages on his breath. He was semi-unsteady on his feet," he said.


Comment: What’s this?
"I describe it as an 'Oh, no!' moment because it was a law enforcement officer," Schreiner said.




http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/23060337/day-18-christopher-deedy-expected-to-testify

Day 18: Deedy takes stand; says Elderts was the aggressor

While on the stand, Deedy also disputed the prosecutor's argument that he was drunk that night.  He said he did party with friends, and he drank four beers over a number of hours, which is the limit he always sets for himself.


Comment: His friend said he had 5.




http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/22890272/could-cops-have-tested-deedys-sobriety

Could cops have tested Deedy's sobriety?

Police who arrested Deedy and the evidence specialist who photographed him have testified that


he smelled of alcohol, had glassy eyes and slurred his words.


"The natural question is, 'Well, how do we know if he was truly intoxicated?' And if he was drinking, at what level was he at?" Tonaki said.


"Just by smelling somebody's breath you can't tell if they had one drink or ten drinks," Bakke said.


State public defender Jack Tonaki said police could have and maybe should have gotten that warrant.
"It's not a real complicated process. They just have to apprise the judge of the circumstances and why they feel they have probable cause to seek out the warrant," he said.






http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/intoxicate
in•tox•i•cat•edin•tox•i•cat•ing
Definition of INTOXICATE
1
: poison
2
a : to excite or stupefy by alcohol or a drug especially to the point where physical and mental control is markedly diminished
b : to excite or elate to the point of enthusiasm or frenzy





We will never know if Deedy was legally by definition intoxicated because a BAC and blood test was never taken.



A question is why did Deedy confront Elderts without calling for police 1st?  Was he intoxicated where his mental control was markedly diminished as by definition? 

Did he think he could handle the situation all by himself knowing that it could turn violent, a sign that his mental capacity might be diminished?

He also was facing the possibility of more than one drunk individual yet he did not consider calling for police or back-up. Was this also a sign of diminished mental capacity?



We will never know.



One thing we do know for certain is that LEO’s are human.
They drink alcohol.
They get drunk.
Some of them do get corrupted.



Was this the case here? We will never know.

since no one can lowball my price of FREE, i'll start out

FREE composting worms
FREE taro keiki

just speak up here, and i'll bring some for you to the august pau hana

i suggest only free items here before a certain new member starts in again

no worries

Damn! You know, I did and I found that ribs are actually cheaper at Costco. Sorry for not getting back to you, I feel like jerk now.  I buy a lot of Filet and Flank steaks, they seem to be cheaper at the commissary than at Costco's. Costco has pretty impressive purchasing power though...it would be hard for anyone to beat their prices.

mikesdad not down for a sausage fest?
http://2ahawaii.com/Smileys/extended/geekdanc.gif
not that there's anything wrong with it

did you ever check the price of ribs at the exchange?

hmmm, on second thought...I am sure I am busy that night!   

little bit over your budget, but i looked at the springer MC operator at OGC this thursday and it was sweet

For me, my budget would be under $1000 I reckon.

Ideally not a whole lot more than the Glock 21.

that chart is wack
those of you who have met me know that there's no way that i am at the top limit of healthy and the bottom of overweight

From the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services, Surgeon General website:



BMI of 18.5 - 24.5 = Healthy Weight
BMI of 25.0 - 29.9 = Overweight
BMI of 30.0 - 34.9 = Obese (Class I)
BMI of 35.0 - 39.9 = Obese (Class II)
BMI > 40.0 = Obese (Class III)

From the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC):

Measure the distance around the smallest area of your waist, usually just above the belly button.
Measure the distance around the largest area of od your hips, usually the widest part of your buttocks.
Divide waist meaurement by hip measurement.

As a general guideline for men:
A ratio < 0.85 = Excellent
A ratio of 0.85 - 0.90 = Good
A ratio of 0.90 - 0.95 = Average
A ratio of 0.95 - 1.00 = High
A ratio > 1.00 = Extreme

As a general guideline for women:
A ratio < 0.75 = Excellent
A ratio of 0.75 - 0.80 = Good
A ratio of 0.80 - 0.85 = Average
A ratio of 0.85 - 0.90 = High
A ratio > 0.90 = Extreme

I just got cleared by my neurologist, so finally able to resume running and working out.

Anybody down for a six-week challenge?

I could use the additional incentive/motivation.   

"Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra"
and you think to yourself, "that must be a star trek reference"
i am, however, happy to say that i had to google it to find out that it was a ST:TNG reference, and that i did not know the season and episode either
so while i am a geek, i am not THAT big of a geek

so should we start a separate thread for predictions on the outcome?

The Defense has rested their case.  Now it will be up to the jury.   I hope the right decision is made based on whatever the jury feels the evidence shows them.

yeah, tell all your friends that are not 2ahawaii members
we need to show interest before they will commit
i would bet if we asked all the HPD/HFD and others we know, we could get a lot of interest
but without a solid amount of interest, this thing will not even get past this stage
mahalos to jonjon for even getting it this far

Let's do this! I voted for the 2nd set of dates.

you don't want to be on my team if it's rifle drills
i gots ta test run my new sights before da range day too or else i'll be doing lots of pushups and laps

i went had my game face on... my partners  on the team drills missed the target well i proly missed too, we did pushups for every miss and ran some laps also good to get the heart rate up... then we shot more  fricken awsome day at range i dont know why everybody dont show up cause its awsome!!!! No really it is... well at least i have fun Haha  mac its me and you buddy on the next one