Hawaiian Kingdom - no 2nd amendment (Read 987 times)

aieahound

Hawaiian Kingdom - no 2nd amendment
« on: June 22, 2020, 09:53:38 PM »
Man of Many User Names And Kuleana have at it.
Just keep it out of the other threads.  :crazy:
(No, I’m not a mod. Just a suggestion)

“Hawaii’s petition for rehearing triumphantly declares that ‘Hawaii has regulated the public carry of firearms for over 150 years,’ pointing to various enactments in 1852, 1927, and 1934,” the brief explains.

The state argues such restrictions have been widespread and longstanding.

“This is quite an assertion. … For most of Hawaii’s history, the island nation had no republican form of government – rather, it was a monarchy, ruled by kings and queens. Even after later transitioning to a constitutional monarchy, the Kingdom of Hawaii Constitution of 1840 did not recognize a right of the people to bear arms.”

“The Hawaii stranglehold on arms was easy to accomplish, since native Hawaiians had no experience with firearms prior to the arrival of Europeans in the late 1700s. Indeed, traders and settlers selectively doled out firearms in order to ‘unite Hawaii’s eight main islands into a single kingdom [under] Kamehameha 1.’

“This is hardly a noble pedigree to apply when determining the right of a sovereign people to keep and bear arms as a bulwark against tyranny,” the brief explains.

Hawaii became a U.S. territory in 1898 and a state in 1959.

“Hawaii’s antiquated firearms regulatory scheme should be rejected out of hand – a relic of history, not unlike the sovereign prerogatives of King George, against which this country’s Second Amendment was designed to protect,” the groups argue.“

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/22770/Hawaii-Gun-Carry-Ban-Legit-Because-Its-Century-Old.aspx

P.S. 2AHawaii is the name of the website.

Oh, and we will watch the tangents you guys go off on too.

Oh, and just for shi+s and giggles, Man of Many User Names why did I get blocked but not Kuleana or EEF?



« Last Edit: June 22, 2020, 10:05:24 PM by aieahound »

Heavies

Re: Hawaiian Kingdom - no 2nd amendment
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2020, 10:26:25 PM »
A subject cannot be armed. Otherwise they wouldn't be considered subjects nor be subjugated.

RSN172

Re: Hawaiian Kingdom - no 2nd amendment
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2020, 07:22:41 AM »
We will never get the right to carry in Hawaii unless the make up of SCOTUS changes in our favor.  The recent refusal to hear 10 gun cases was because neither the 4 liberals and 4 conservatives on the court could count on Roberts voting in their favor.  The result?  Both sides punted.  If Trump loses in Nov or the Dems take the Senate or worse yet, both, then maybe your great grand children might have a chance to carry in Hawaii.  But maybe by then the 2A might have been repealed and we will be like the UK.

groveler

Re: Hawaiian Kingdom - no 2nd amendment
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2020, 08:24:55 AM »
This a public forum.
Everybody here are law abiding citizens as
am I.
I've lived on the BI for over twenty years.
Not many of my neighbors pay any attention
to drug, gun, traffic, or tax laws, just to name a
few areas where laws are ignored..
I don't live with a bunch of criminals.
I live with Americans.