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General Discussion / Re: Why are lever action so popular?
« on: January 26, 2023, 12:32:53 PM »
The drop on the stock looks too low. Wonder how it shoulders? 
General Discussion / Re: Why are lever action so popular?
« on: January 19, 2023, 06:50:11 AM »
When it comes to lever guns (PCC style ‘73s), the Italian imports out of the factory need work. For the price they go for, you’d think they would be better. A good cowboy action smith can smooth them up and make them acceptable. Of course that will jack up the price further.  A Miroku/Winchester is a much better choice for a quality PCC lever out of the factory.

Not much experience with locking lug lever’s suitable for lager rifle calibers. They, naturally, will not be able to run as quickly as a toggle lock PCC.
Reloading / Re: Neck thickness variance
« on: January 03, 2023, 09:26:07 PM »
Cool.  Sounds like you put a lot of effort into it.

Couple of follow-up questions:
1) For measuring the neck thickness, did you measure at a specific point below say the case mouth?  Or otherwise account for variation along the length of the neck? 
2) For the Redding body die, were you using the expander ball?  Or did you find or fashion a mandrel with the die?  Or expander mandrel as a separate step?

The questions around #1, and different ways folks were doing it (as well as having heated arguments) on that made me wary of venturing down that path.  I know many who do it, but seems like many have their own way of measuring, sorting, etc for consistency. 

1) just about halfway down at least in 4 quadrants. Want to know the thick and thin parts.  Usually I’ve seen they are either pretty much good or way out of whack.   Variations from top to bottom of the neck are negligible in the “good” cases.

2) just the body die. They do not do anything at all to the neck of the case. Just bumping the shoulder back .002-.003”

I’ve tried the ones with the bushings and such. Tried expander ball. Tried running mandrel. Etc. all have given to much mixed results for my liking. Doesn’t make sense to me to attempt to make the case nice and straight, bump the shoulder, then turn around and push or pull an object through the neck possibly messing up the bump or runout.

That the beauty of the collet neck die.  The die squeezes around the outside of the neck and presses it to the mandrel. No force is required to pull the mandrel back out. Seating force is extremely uniform since the inside of the case is formed to the exact size of the mandrel all the way around on the inside.

After starting to use this sizing method and case sorting, I gave up on testing runout on the complete rounds, as all of them come out nearly perfect. Didn’t need to check anymore.
Reloading / Re: Neck thickness variance
« on: January 03, 2023, 04:44:00 PM »
AMP Annealer is one of the best investments I’ve made for reloading.

After you measure with ball micrometer, do you neck turn? Or mostly noting data?  Being able to measure I think is a good baseline. Neck turning opens a whole bigger can, at least for me.

I’ve played with neck turning, but don’t believe the results match the effort. Like noted in my post above, the case walls are still left uneven and thick. This causes inconsistent case volume and pressure.

At shorter ranges like 100 or 200 yards, velocity difference won’t make much of a difference, but at longer ranges you’d want the best ES/SD numbers as you can get.

Easier to measure and cull bad cases.
Reloading / Re: Neck thickness variance
« on: January 03, 2023, 04:35:27 PM »
I’ve done many experiments with case neck thickness variations and this is what I’ve found.

I’ve sorted brass within .004-.005” thickness to brass, outside to way outside that variation. This netted a noticeable reduction in uncalled fliers, when all other factors remained consistent.

Things I’ve noted.

Typically, high variance in case neck thickness correlates to variation in case body thickness as well. This is most noticeable in long cases, such as .30-06. Of course, one cannot actually measure below the neck. I conclude this because after firing, the entire case is bent like a banana. I’ve measured the neck in the shorter arc area, and noted this is the thickest part of the entire case. These noticeable “banana” cases are culled immediately.

My theory is that the thicker and uneven neck area does not release the bullet consistently on firing, thus causes fliers. Also the thicker and uneven brass thickness would cause in consistent volume inside the case, causing inconsistent pressure, thus higher ES/SD numbers.

Lapua brass typically has much less variation in thickness.

I’ve done Winchester brass, had to cull almost half of the cases. This brass is much cheaper, and after the cull, the rounds produced very good consistency and accuracy comparable to Lapua cases. Winchester brass usually doesn’t last as long as Lapua cases though.  However, even after the cull, one could get much more cases per dollar.

I also have always used the Lee collet neck sizer, after using a Redding body die. Reason being, the neck is sized exactly the same size as the mandrel (on the INSIDE).  My conclusion is, this two step sizing and the sorting of low variance neck thickness produces consistent neck tension and bullet release.
Off Topic / Re: In da dog house again!
« on: January 03, 2023, 05:15:07 AM »
Always easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission. Lol

Problem is, you probably don’t have enough.  If you have enough, then she won’t notice something new. If she does, you can say, “I’ve had this a while ago, just haven’t brought it out for a while…” hahaha
They still haven’t issued any CCW permits, they arbitrarily made up a bunch of expensive hoops to jump through that is NOT written in the law, the chief still arbitrarily makes a decision on issuing permits. I’d say they still are not IAW the SCOTUS decision
Firearms and Accessories / Re: Stop Doing This With Your Carry Gun
« on: December 14, 2022, 12:34:56 PM »
Wonder if the guy hits low left….
Reloading / Re: Factory Seconds
« on: December 03, 2022, 05:45:49 AM »
For plinking around, all good. For accuracy, you’ll probably have some flyers.
Great revolver!
Ever notice when this guy shoots in SA mode, he takes it off target to high ready position to cock the hammer. Why not keep on target and cock the hammer?
But I like his videos, great reviews. He is honest  :shaka:

Yeah. I noticed that. Haha. Kind of inefficient.  Seems he shoots much better in DA as well. He should take note of cowboy action shooters in regards to SA mode.   ;D
Ah. I see. 👍🏽
after our meeting with Augie T it is highly suggested to attend in person for the hearing.

How so? Thought Augie was somewhat pro 2a?
Legal and Activism / Re: CCW Instructors for Oahu
« on: November 23, 2022, 09:43:09 PM »
They could just ban NRA as a valid instructional organization, like they are doing here…. Oops. No instructors available, no rights for you.
General Discussion / Re: New CCW/ apps/ process is up on HPD site
« on: November 23, 2022, 09:23:32 PM »
What happened to the roughly 600 applications prior to their rule changes?

No law has been changed. The requirements were already in place. Are we all now denied?

This entire bill is completely unconstitutional and in direct contempt of the SCOTUS decision. Near exact enactments has already been struck and enjoined by federal judges in New York. “Legislative enactments may not eviscerate the Bill of Rights. Every day they do is one too many.” -Hardaway 2022 WL 16646220, at *19
I don’t see how this will do anything. If Trump was delinquent on taxes, the IRS would have already ran charges.

He already said up front how he, and every other high dollar earner (on both side of the political spectrum BTW), uses the tax code to it maximum extent.

Politicians make the tax code, they protect their donors money, the donors play the system. It’s not rocket science.

Difference here is Trump spilled the beans.  “They” are pissed about it, thus we see all these witch hunts to punish him for it.
Political Discussion / Re: Trump announces 2024 POTUS run
« on: November 22, 2022, 07:01:20 AM »
Honestly, I am thinking Trump will do damage to the chances of conservatives regaining any power. The left is too hell bent on stopping him at all costs. I’m thinking the midterms are a result of this. People who would not normally vote, came out and voted just to stop him, even though he had nothing whatsoever to do with the current election.

Trump was not very 2A anyway. Could have done a lot more during his tenure, but did not. Moreover, his bumpstock ban directly incited the massive overreach and power grabs by the alphabet gangs.

Might not be a popular opinion here, but if one has to honestly look at the situation, one would have to consider it.
HIFICO is and has been working on finding out what will happen to these already submitted apps.

Under the new rules, the exam has to be done 90days prior to the submission of applicaiton. Not after.

IMO, HPD will deny those who already applied. Per the title of "processing", this might mean denials of all who already applied.

How is it legal to retroactively apply “rules” ex post facto?  Might as well just keep moving the goal post. Seems to work well in forum debates.
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