Knives - What Are Your Preferences? (Read 126369 times)

drck1000

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2016, 02:29:13 PM »
custom knives are so expensive, I would hate to use them
I usually end up using my cheaper blades for edc and every day use
I'm always looking for that "next" knife
my most used EDC is a fox tactical assisted opener with flipper, pocket clip easily fits pockets and most of my belts, so its easy to carry and/or conceal

this is one of my favorites:  Boker Plus Valkyrie, about 1/4 inch blade thickness

I hear ya.  However, for me, it's almost a waste that I can't put some of these knives to good use.  There are guys that he's made blades for that live in North Dakota and Texas where they get good use for sure.  From stuff around their farms to skinners for hunting.  Back in WA, we would do some minor bushcrafting stuff, but not really here.  Heck, I haven't even gone camping since I moved back home. . .

That Boker is a nice one!  That's pretty close to what I've been thinking of with maybe the back section having a slightly longer straight section. 

I know "my guy" doesn't like doing hidden tang knives.  He'll do them, but he'll 1) probably get pissed at me for requesting (which isn't a bid deal) and 2) charge me more and maybe even more due to reason 1.  Haha.  I know he REALLY hates hollow grind blades. 

drck1000

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2016, 02:32:56 PM »
BOWIE DOESN'T APPROVE

 ;D :rofl:

K.  How about these?



RSN172

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2016, 08:55:54 PM »
I don't carry a fixed blade on me, though one of my best friend's uncle had one on him at all times when we were in Vegas.  It was probably a 4-5" blade, so not a Crocodile Dundee "now that's a knife", but a decent sized one

I am pretty sure the legal blade limit in NV is 3 inches if you carry it concealed.  When I am in NV I only carry a Kershaw 2" folder to open packages, cut fruit etc,, as I no longer need to rely on a knife for protection since I got my NV cc permit.

I have always loved knives and have several expensive ones, 3 Busses, a Camillus CudaMaxx (limited production run of only 1000.) Bought that knife when it first was released for $207 on EBay.  Today, if you can find one for sale, asking price is $800 and up.  Plus I sent that knife to Darryl Ralph, the designer who allowed Camillus to make a limited run to replace the Teflon bearings with bronze like his knives, smooth out the action and firm up the lock.  In Hawaii I carry two fixed blades for SD.  A 5" & 3". 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2016, 09:47:12 PM »
I am pretty sure the legal blade limit in NV is 3 inches if you carry it concealed.  When I am in NV I only carry a Kershaw 2" folder to open packages, cut fruit etc,, as I no longer need to rely on a knife for protection since I got my NV cc permit.

I have always loved knives and have several expensive ones, 3 Busses, a Camillus CudaMaxx (limited production run of only 1000.) Bought that knife when it first was released for $207 on EBay.  Today, if you can find one for sale, asking price is $800 and up.  Plus I sent that knife to Darryl Ralph, the designer who allowed Camillus to make a limited run to replace the Teflon bearings with bronze like his knives, smooth out the action and firm up the lock.  In Hawaii I carry two fixed blades for SD.  A 5" & 3".

Nevada State laws no longer have length limits for knife blades you can carry.  The whole of Clark County, Nevada, plus the townships or cities of Henderson, Las Vegas, and North Las Vegas all forbid concealed carry of knives with blades 3” long or longer. Reno is even stricter, banning blades 2” long or longer, and some municipalities probably still outlaw switchblade and belt-buckle knife ownership.

Before changes in 2015, a pocketknife was all you could legally carry concealed without a permit.  NRS § 202.350, now heavily amended as of July 1st, 2015, forbids concealed carry of machetes. It is now legal to carry switchblades, belt buckle knives (which are concealed permanently by design), daggers, dirks, and other legal knives concealed. Swords presumably count as “machetes” also, and sword-canes likely fall into the same category. Nevada residents can request a concealed carry permit for knives otherwise illegal to carry hidden from their county sheriff, in writing.
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RSN172

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2016, 09:57:17 PM »
Nevada State laws no longer have length limits for knife blades you can carry.  The whole of Clark County, Nevada, plus the townships or cities of Henderson, Las Vegas, and North Las Vegas all forbid concealed carry of knives with blades 3” long or longer.

That is why I stated in my post "if you carry it concealed".  Am I correct or did the new knife laws change that blade limit?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2016, 10:55:08 PM »
That is why I stated in my post "if you carry it concealed".  Am I correct or did the new knife laws change that blade limit?

From the way I read it, the state no longer specifies a limit on legal blade length.  Cities and counties may have length restrictions, as listed in the other comment.  Also, you can't carry these weapons on the grounds of schools or day cares.

State law is silent on maximum legal lengths, so you have to know what the local laws specify.

Here's the entire, newly revised, statute:

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     NRS 202.350  Manufacture, importation, possession or use of dangerous weapon or silencer; carrying concealed weapon without permit; penalties; issuance of permit to carry concealed weapon; exceptions.

      1.  Except as otherwise provided in this section and NRS 202.3653 to 202.369, inclusive, a person within this State shall not:

      (a) Manufacture or cause to be manufactured, or import into the State, or keep, offer or expose for sale, or give, lend or possess any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, billy, sand-club, sandbag or metal knuckles;

      (b) Manufacture or cause to be manufactured, or import into the State, or keep, offer or expose for sale, or give, lend, possess or use a machine gun or a silencer, unless authorized by federal law;

      (c) With the intent to inflict harm upon the person of another, possess or use a nunchaku or trefoil; or

      (d) Carry concealed upon his or her person any:

             (1) Explosive substance, other than ammunition or any components thereof;

             (2) Machete; or

             (3) Pistol, revolver or other firearm, other dangerous or deadly weapon or pneumatic gun.

      2.  Except as otherwise provided in NRS 202.275 and 212.185, a person who violates any of the provisions of:

      (a) Paragraph (a) or (c) or subparagraph (2) of paragraph (d) of subsection 1 is guilty:

             (1) For the first offense, of a gross misdemeanor.

             (2) For any subsequent offense, of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130.

      (b) Paragraph (b) or subparagraph (1) or (3) of paragraph (d) of subsection 1 is guilty of a category C felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130.

      3.  Except as otherwise provided in this subsection, the sheriff of any county may, upon written application by a resident of that county showing the reason or the purpose for which a concealed weapon is to be carried, issue a permit authorizing the applicant to carry in this State the concealed weapon described in the permit. This subsection does not authorize the sheriff to issue a permit to a person to carry a pistol, revolver or other firearm.

      4.  Except as otherwise provided in subsection 5, this section does not apply to:

      (a) Sheriffs, constables, marshals, peace officers, correctional officers employed by the Department of Corrections, special police officers, police officers of this State, whether active or honorably retired, or other appointed officers.

      (b) Any person summoned by any peace officer to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace while the person so summoned is actually engaged in assisting such an officer.

      (c) Any full-time paid peace officer of an agency of the United States or another state or political subdivision thereof when carrying out official duties in the State of Nevada.

      (d) Members of the Armed Forces of the United States when on duty.

      5.  The exemptions provided in subsection 4 do not include a former peace officer who is retired for disability unless his or her former employer has approved his or her fitness to carry a concealed weapon.

      6.  The provisions of paragraph (b) of subsection 1 do not apply to any person who is licensed, authorized or permitted to possess or use a machine gun or silencer pursuant to federal law. The burden of establishing federal licensure, authorization or permission is upon the person possessing the license, authorization or permission.

      7.  This section shall not be construed to prohibit a qualified law enforcement officer or a qualified retired law enforcement officer from carrying a concealed weapon in this State if he or she is authorized to do so pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 926B or 926C.

      8.  As used in this section:

      (a) “Concealed weapon” means a weapon described in this section that is carried upon a person in such a manner as not to be discernible by ordinary observation.

      (b) “Honorably retired” means retired in Nevada after completion of 10 years of creditable service as a member of the Public Employees’ Retirement System. A former peace officer is not “honorably retired” if he or she was discharged for cause or resigned before the final disposition of allegations of serious misconduct.

      (c) “Machine gun” means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot or can be readily restored to shoot more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

      (d) “Nunchaku” means an instrument consisting of two or more sticks, clubs, bars or rods connected by a rope, cord, wire or chain used as a weapon in forms of Oriental combat.

      (e) “Pneumatic gun” has the meaning ascribed to it in NRS 202.265.

      (f) “Qualified law enforcement officer” has the meaning ascribed to it in 18 U.S.C. § 926B(c).

      (g) “Qualified retired law enforcement officer” has the meaning ascribed to it in 18 U.S.C. § 926C(c).

      (h) “Silencer” means any device for silencing, muffling or diminishing the report of a firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a silencer or muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.

      (i) “Trefoil” means an instrument consisting of a metal plate having three or more radiating points with sharp edges, designed in the shape of a star, cross or other geometric figure and used as a weapon for throwing.

      [1:47:1925; NCL § 2302] + [3:47:1925; NCL § 2304]—(NRS A 1959, 548; 1963, 90; 1967, 486; 1973, 190, 900; 1977, 269, 880; 1979, 1435; 1985, 452, 593, 792; 1989, 653; 1995, 1207, 2726; 1997, 826, 1601; 1999, 421, 1208; 2001, 575; 2003, 1351; 2005, 594; 2015, 1587)



Here is the 2010 version of the same thing:


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NRS 202.350 Manufacture, importation, possession or use of dangerous weapon or silencer; carrying concealed weapon without permit; penalties; issuance of permit to carry concealed weapon; exceptions.

1. Except as otherwise provided in this section and NRS 202.355 and 202.3653 to 202.369, inclusive, a person within this State shall not:

(a) Manufacture or cause to be manufactured, or import into the State, or keep, offer or expose for sale, or give, lend or possess any knife which is made an integral part of a belt buckle or any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a switchblade knife, blackjack, slungshot, billy, sand-club, sandbag or metal knuckles;

(b) Manufacture or cause to be manufactured, or import into the State, or keep, offer or expose for sale, or give, lend, possess or use a machine gun or a silencer, unless authorized by federal law;

(c) With the intent to inflict harm upon the person of another, possess or use a nunchaku or trefoil; or

(d) Carry concealed upon his or her person any:

(1) Explosive substance, other than ammunition or any components thereof;

(2) Dirk, dagger or machete;

(3) Pistol, revolver or other firearm, or other dangerous or deadly weapon; or

(4) Knife which is made an integral part of a belt buckle.

2. Except as otherwise provided in NRS 202.275 and 212.185, a person who violates any of the provisions of:

(a) Paragraph (a) or (c) or subparagraph (2) or (4) of paragraph (d) of subsection 1 is guilty:

(1) For the first offense, of a gross misdemeanor.

(2) For any subsequent offense, of a category D felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130.

(b) Paragraph (b) or subparagraph (1) or (3) of paragraph (d) of subsection 1 is guilty of a category C felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130.

3. Except as otherwise provided in this subsection, the sheriff of any county may, upon written application by a resident of that county showing the reason or the purpose for which a concealed weapon is to be carried, issue a permit authorizing the applicant to carry in this State the concealed weapon described in the permit. The sheriff shall not issue a permit to a person to carry a switchblade knife. This subsection does not authorize the sheriff to issue a permit to a person to carry a pistol, revolver or other firearm.

4. Except as otherwise provided in subsection 5, this section does not apply to:

(a) Sheriffs, constables, marshals, peace officers, correctional officers employed by the Department of Corrections, special police officers, police officers of this State, whether active or honorably retired, or other appointed officers.

(b) Any person summoned by any peace officer to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace while the person so summoned is actually engaged in assisting such an officer.

(c) Any full-time paid peace officer of an agency of the United States or another state or political subdivision thereof when carrying out official duties in the State of Nevada.

(d) Members of the Armed Forces of the United States when on duty.

5. The exemptions provided in subsection 4 do not include a former peace officer who is retired for disability unless his or her former employer has approved his or her fitness to carry a concealed weapon.

6. The provisions of paragraph (b) of subsection 1 do not apply to any person who is licensed, authorized or permitted to possess or use a machine gun or silencer pursuant to federal law. The burden of establishing federal licensure, authorization or permission is upon the person possessing the license, authorization or permission.

7. This section shall not be construed to prohibit a qualified law enforcement officer or a qualified retired law enforcement officer from carrying a concealed weapon in this State if he or she is authorized to do so pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 926B or 926C.

8. As used in this section:

(a) "Concealed weapon" means a weapon described in this section that is carried upon a person in such a manner as not to be discernible by ordinary observation.

(b) "Honorably retired" means retired in Nevada after completion of 10 years of creditable service as a member of the Public Employees' Retirement System. A former peace officer is not "honorably retired" if he or she was discharged for cause or resigned before the final disposition of allegations of serious misconduct.

(c) "Machine gun" means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot or can be readily restored to shoot more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.

(d) "Nunchaku" means an instrument consisting of two or more sticks, clubs, bars or rods connected by a rope, cord, wire or chain used as a weapon in forms of Oriental combat.

(e) "Qualified law enforcement officer" has the meaning ascribed to it in 18 U.S.C. 926B(c).

(f) "Qualified retired law enforcement officer" has the meaning ascribed to it in 18 U.S.C. 926C(c).

(g) "Silencer" means any device for silencing, muffling or diminishing the report of a firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a silencer or muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.

(h) "Switchblade knife" means a spring-blade knife, snap-blade knife or any other knife having the appearance of a pocketknife, any blade of which is 2 or more inches long and which can be released automatically by a flick of a button, pressure on the handle or other mechanical device, or is released by any type of mechanism. The term does not include a knife which has a blade that is held in place by a spring if the blade does not have any type of automatic release.

(i) "Trefoil" means an instrument consisting of a metal plate having three or more radiating points with sharp edges, designed in the shape of a star, cross or other geometric figure and used as a weapon for throwing.

[1:47:1925; NCL 2302] + [3:47:1925; NCL 2304]-(NRS A 1959, 548; 1963, 90; 1967, 486; 1973, 190, 900; 1977, 269, 880; 1979, 1435; 1985, 452, 593, 792; 1989, 653; 1995, 1207, 2726; 1997, 826, 1601; 1999, 421, 1208; 2001, 575; 2003, 1351; 2005, 594)
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2016, 11:04:20 PM »
BTW, I just received my NV CCW.  The permit itself is called a CONCEALED WEAPON PERMIT.  The rear of the card states HANDGUN AUTHORIZED.  I guess this form is pre-2015, when you needed a permit for concealed knives other than the already allowed pocketknives.
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

drck1000

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2016, 01:44:04 AM »
I am pretty sure the legal blade limit in NV is 3 inches if you carry it concealed.  When I am in NV I only carry a Kershaw 2" folder to open packages, cut fruit etc,, as I no longer need to rely on a knife for protection since I got my NV cc permit.

I have always loved knives and have several expensive ones, 3 Busses, a Camillus CudaMaxx (limited production run of only 1000.) Bought that knife when it first was released for $207 on EBay.  Today, if you can find one for sale, asking price is $800 and up.  Plus I sent that knife to Darryl Ralph, the designer who allowed Camillus to make a limited run to replace the Teflon bearings with bronze like his knives, smooth out the action and firm up the lock.  In Hawaii I carry two fixed blades for SD.  A 5" & 3".
He was carrying it open. In plain sight.

$800 for a blade is damn pricey!

drck1000

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2016, 01:45:06 AM »
Please keep this discussion about blades. Keep share your apparent expertise about laws and other stuff in the legal section.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2016, 02:33:12 AM »
Is that like a chisel at the tip/end? 

That's an interesting configuration.  What is the intent/purpose for such a design?

The tip is a single sided chisel grind. The intention there was for a knife that could get under something and do some light prying. The knife isn't super thick which saves weight but could cost me in terms of how much I could pry. I put on that slight angle so that it does still have some stab potential as opposed to completely perpendicular chisel edge. The straight edge is a double sided convex grind. It is thinner and sort of protected for tasks you need the blade nice and sharp.

RSN172

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2016, 08:33:25 AM »
Hawaii has a nationally known custom knife maker on Oahu.  Tom Mayo.  His knives sell for $1000 and up.  Last time I looked at his website,  it said he was not currently taking any new orders since he had a 2 year backlog.

oldfart

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2016, 08:53:31 AM »
Hawaii has a nationally known custom knife maker on Oahu.  Tom Mayo.  His knives sell for $1000 and up.  Last time I looked at his website,  it said he was not currently taking any new orders since he had a 2 year backlog.
...
How about ken onion?
Tom used to shoot with us back in the day.
What, Me Worry?

eyeeatingfish

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2016, 09:57:35 AM »
Hawaii has a nationally known custom knife maker on Oahu.  Tom Mayo.  His knives sell for $1000 and up.  Last time I looked at his website,  it said he was not currently taking any new orders since he had a 2 year backlog.

There are a number of well known knife makers in Hawaii, well at least well known in the knife community. Go to the gun shows and you meet some of them.

I met one guy at the knife show last year who only had a few years experience and already he was selling fixed blades for $200. And he wasn't even one of the famous ones.

stangzilla

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2016, 12:45:02 PM »
...
How about ken onion?
Tom used to shoot with us back in the day.
I know Tom too
Saw him about a year ago at the gun show he had a table
Had an article about him in Blade magazine several months ago

drck1000

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2016, 01:04:15 PM »
The tip is a single sided chisel grind. The intention there was for a knife that could get under something and do some light prying. The knife isn't super thick which saves weight but could cost me in terms of how much I could pry. I put on that slight angle so that it does still have some stab potential as opposed to completely perpendicular chisel edge. The straight edge is a double sided convex grind. It is thinner and sort of protected for tasks you need the blade nice and sharp.
Interesting design/concept.  I guess you can always stab someone with any object, but I would think that that design would make it tougher. 

drck1000

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2016, 01:07:15 PM »
Hawaii has a nationally known custom knife maker on Oahu.  Tom Mayo.  His knives sell for $1000 and up.  Last time I looked at his website,  it said he was not currently taking any new orders since he had a 2 year backlog.
Yeah, I've seen a bunch of them at gun shows and they have some damn fine knives as some damn fine prices! 

When my buddy started doing knives, he started as something to do after retiring and something he always wanted to do.  He does everything except for heat treat.  He even does kydex sheaths for them and has "a guy" that does leather for nostalgic designs.  I don't really "need" one of his knives as I have lots that I have now that don't really get used, but just the opportunity to get something that is just for me and what I want is appealing.  Again, I really wish I had more use for them. 

JHanawahine

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2016, 04:05:04 PM »
I used to carry a buck 112,it has a permanent home in my truck now.had a couple cheap kershaws but they go dull fast.folding utility knife is all I got on me now days. I see Tom M browsing sec's consignment guns.Ken onion & Stan fugisaka are out of Kaneohe.

RSN172

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2016, 04:44:02 PM »
...
How about ken onion?
Tom used to shoot with us back in the day.
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I have 3 Ken Onion Kershaw and never knew he was in Hawaii, in fact the neighboring town from me. (I used to live in Kailua )
Checked Tom Mayo's website and he is taking orders again.  Now Darrell Ralph has stopped taking new orders.  Damn, it seems like the custom knife making business is a good one if you have the skills.

stangzilla

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2016, 05:54:06 PM »
getting a custom knife made just for you does sound like a pretty good idea.   :thumbsup:

I have this knife which i did use for a hiking trail chopper
Blackjack Marauder MK I
I got it about 30 years ago



Blackjack made some great knives back in 80's-90's
their knives are now made by bark river knives, iirc
they had their beginnings with ties to Chris Reeves, but business wasn't dealt with properly or something like that
here's a little history on the company:
http://blackjack.0catch.com/pages/early_years_fyi.htm
i think i bought mine in the first year of the company 1987, but i could swear it was before that

they are not custom but i like the looks of many of their knives.  they use A2 tool steel now, not sure what was used before on mine.  blades are about 1/4 inch thick too.  beefy blades.





oldfart

Re: Knives - What Are Your Preferences?
« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2016, 07:29:03 PM »
I used to carry a buck 112,it has a permanent home in my truck now.had a couple cheap kershaws but they go dull fast.folding utility knife is all I got on me now days. I see Tom M browsing sec's consignment guns.Ken onion & Stan fugisaka are out of Kaneohe.
...
I loved my buck 112. It was my first nice knife and I promptly lost it.
Other local makers, vince, oj, ross.
What, Me Worry?