HIFICO 2020 Legislature Firearms Bills(see 1st post) (Read 43968 times)

stangzilla

Re: HIFICO 2020 Legislature Firearms Bills(see 1st post)
« Reply #60 on: June 23, 2020, 08:01:43 AM »
submitted again

Brystont1

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« Reply #61 on: June 23, 2020, 08:38:19 AM »
Submitted!

rhacker

zippz

Re: HIFICO 2020 Legislature Firearms Bills(see 1st post)
« Reply #64 on: June 27, 2020, 11:06:27 AM »
The Senate Judiciary vote was put on hold until Tuesday to figure out a film industry exception for the mag ban.  80% chance we'll get grandfathering for the mags so buy em while you can.  There is still a small chance the bill may not pass.  Our hopes are with the 9th Circuit Court's Duncan vs Becerra to overturn our magazine bans.


Both bills passed the House PVM JUD committees.  We are still fighting the ammo bill and calling all firearms instructors, coaches, and trainers to stay tuned for a call to action.  The ammo bill would prevent teaching basic firearms courses, stop some shooting events, and not allowing you to take friends and family to the range to shoot.
Join the Hawaii Firearms Coalition at www.hifico.org.  Hawaii's new non-profit gun rights organization focused on lobbying and grassroots activism.

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zippz

Re: HIFICO 2020 Legislature Firearms Bills(see 1st post)
« Reply #65 on: July 06, 2020, 11:09:45 PM »
This is the home stretch with the last floor vote and end of the session taking place on July 10th.  Most of the major bills are dead with only HB1902 Magazine ban left along with a couple minor ones: HB270 estates and SB3054 out of state expected to pass.  HB2744 Gun violence commission and ghost guns has a high likelihood of dying due to the House disagreeing with the Senate amendments.  I don't think they have the time to negotiate in conference committee.  We'll find out on Wednesday.  HB2292 Electric Guns is expected to pass and will legalize them with FFL/FIrearm like regulations and you probably won't be able to carry one in public.  Andrew vs Roberts lawsuit on electric guns will continue to pursue public carry which will be decided after Young vs Hawaii is settled.

Buy your rifle mags now, HB1902 will be effective immediately upon signing by the Governor which will likely take place somewhere between about 2 weeks to 2 months from now.  We're going to be rallying the 2A troops to call the Governor to oppose this.  There is a small chance it could be Vetoed since it is unenforceable. 

Join the Hawaii Firearms Coalition at www.hifico.org.  Hawaii's new non-profit gun rights organization focused on lobbying and grassroots activism.

Hawaii Shooting Calendar - https://calendar.google.com/calendar/embed?src=practicalmarksman.com_btllod1boifgpp8dcjnbnruhso%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=Pacific/Honolulu

hvybarrels

Re: HIFICO 2020 Legislature Firearms Bills(see 1st post)
« Reply #66 on: July 07, 2020, 12:27:25 AM »
So they ran out of time for the Ammo bill?
“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

zippz

Re: HIFICO 2020 Legislature Firearms Bills(see 1st post)
« Reply #67 on: July 07, 2020, 07:11:42 AM »
So they ran out of time for the Ammo bill?

Finance declined to hear the bill last week and it hit the hearings deadline.
Join the Hawaii Firearms Coalition at www.hifico.org.  Hawaii's new non-profit gun rights organization focused on lobbying and grassroots activism.

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6716J

Re: HIFICO 2020 Legislature Firearms Bills(see 1st post)
« Reply #68 on: July 07, 2020, 07:51:57 AM »
This is the home stretch with the last floor vote and end of the session taking place on July 10th.  Most of the major bills are dead with only HB1902 Magazine ban left along with a couple minor ones: HB270 estates and SB3054 out of state expected to pass.  HB2744 Gun violence commission and ghost guns has a high likelihood of dying due to the House disagreeing with the Senate amendments.  I don't think they have the time to negotiate in conference committee.  We'll find out on Wednesday.  HB2292 Electric Guns is expected to pass and will legalize them with FFL/FIrearm like regulations and you probably won't be able to carry one in public.  Andrew vs Roberts lawsuit on electric guns will continue to pursue public carry which will be decided after Young vs Hawaii is settled.

Buy your rifle mags now, HB1902 will be effective immediately upon signing by the Governor which will likely take place somewhere between about 2 weeks to 2 months from now.  We're going to be rallying the 2A troops to call the Governor to oppose this.  There is a small chance it could be Vetoed since it is unenforceable. 



Here's hoping for the small chance the frog will veto it.

So they ran out of time for the Ammo bill?

Finance declined to hear the bill last week and it hit the hearings deadline.

I'm sure they are saving it for the next session

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

zippz

Re: HIFICO 2020 Legislature Firearms Bills(see 1st post)
« Reply #69 on: July 10, 2020, 09:11:52 AM »
HB1902 mag ban is up for it's final vote today in the House and is expected to pass.  Then it goes to the Governor to sign which would go into effect immediately, making rifle mag purchases illegal if over 10 rounds.  Or he could not sign it in which the law will take effect on August 25th.  There's a small chance we can get him to veto it so we'll do a push for that.  If it is stopped now, there is a chance we can stop it in the future if we pick up a few more 2A candidates elected in this election.

SB3054 out of state has also passed both chambers and is going to the governor for signature.

All the other gun bills appear to be dead.
Join the Hawaii Firearms Coalition at www.hifico.org.  Hawaii's new non-profit gun rights organization focused on lobbying and grassroots activism.

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6716J

Re: HIFICO 2020 Legislature Firearms Bills(see 1st post)
« Reply #70 on: July 10, 2020, 12:53:45 PM »
THEY FUCKED US

Ghost Gun ban is now going to be law thanks to last second finagling
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy.

surfmaster

Re: HIFICO 2020 Legislature Firearms Bills(see 1st post)
« Reply #71 on: July 10, 2020, 02:32:51 PM »
THE RIFLE MAGAZINE BAN BILL ID DEAD! Yahoo!!!  :shaka: :shake: :wave: :worship:
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rpoL98

Re: HIFICO 2020 Legislature Firearms Bills(see 1st post)
« Reply #72 on: July 11, 2020, 05:19:24 AM »
does HB2744 redefine "firearms" such that all AR upper receivers are now a firearm (requiring registration, etc)?

according to HB2744 SD2:
 "Firearm receiver" means the part of a firearm that provides housing for the firearm's internal components, including a hammer, bolt, breechblock, action, or firing mechanism.

AR upper receiver houses the bolt, "or" means that any one of those characteristics counts to make it so.

if this gets signed into law, could be AR upper receivers can only be purchased through FFL?  real sneaky.  I know this is similar to the ATF conundrum, but is Karl Rhoads taking advantage of that to instantly criminalize every single law-abiding Hawaii AR owner who now has an unregistered "firearm"?

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2020/bills/HB2744_SD2_PROPOSED_.HTM

entirely separate from the bogus commission (stacked deck) to study gun violence (...reimbursed for travel expenses, oh yeah, where's that money coming from?), and that a block of aluminum (0% receiver) now is classified as a firearm.  WTF!