First 1911 in 45 (Read 49894 times)

changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2021, 10:06:53 PM »
1911 mags are $35 ish? I have no problem replacing them since HK mags are $55+. Didnt know they were that cheap.



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changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2021, 10:07:43 PM »
Kinda off topic but reading your original post, you were lookin at other options.

Have you considered p227 or p220? Or xdm match?
I saw the 227, but they stopped making it. not a fan of the XD. Ill look into the 220.

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changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2021, 10:18:01 PM »
Next, he'll be whining about the cost of .45ACP ammo!   :rofl:

I stood next to a 1911 shooter at the Front Sight Defensive Handgun Course.  He needed one or two more loaded mags on him to get through each shooting session as I needed with 10rd mags.  Comparing the firepower of a 7+1 or 8+1 1911 to ANY Hawaii-compliant 10+1 handgun becomes such a close call it's almost moot.  I consider it a wash when factoring in the slightly higher degree of effectiveness of the 230g projectile vs. a 115g or 124g 9mm.

Of course, it's a matter of rounds on target -- whether or not you can shoot a .45ACP 1911 as well as your favorite 9mm with 10rd compliant mags.
Wait 45 cost more than 9?

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2021, 11:55:13 PM »
I saw the 227, but they stopped making it. not a fan of the XD. Ill look into the 220.

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I have the Sig Sauer P227.  Uses the same holsters as my P226 MK25 9mm.

The grip is just a bit wider than the P226 grip.  The rest of the dimensions are very similar.

Std capacity of P226 9mm is 15 rds.  P227 is 10 rds.

If you like the ergonomics and control placement of the P226, the P227 will be completely familiar.

My son-in-law wants to try my P227 out to see if he wants to buy it.  If he doesn't want it, I'll be posting it for sale. 

I also have a Glock 30 .45ACP compact -- 10rd capacity.  I'll be listing it soon, too.

I've decided my P320 is my new favorite 9mm, closely followed by the P226.  My .45 is the 1911 Nightmare.  I'm trying to thin out my collection to a more manageable size.
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drck1000

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2021, 12:18:36 AM »
1911 mags are $35 ish? I have no problem replacing them since HK mags are $55+. Didnt know they were that cheap.

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Wilson mags can be had for $30ish on sale. That said, it’s not about looks of firearms. It’s not about price. It’s about what is effective. Up to you about what you need.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2021, 12:59:29 AM »
Wilson mags can be had for $30ish on sale. That said, it’s not about looks of firearms. It’s not about price. It’s about what is effective. Up to you about what you need.

You show your friends your expensive 1911.

You show your enemies your Glock!
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blastoff747

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2021, 01:02:01 AM »
My go to mags are wilson combat 500 series 10rd mags.  About $40ish

https://shopwilsoncombat.com/Magazine-1911-Elite-Tactical-45-ACP-Full-Size-10-Round-Polymer-Extended-Base-Pad-FEED-RAILS-Ammunition-System/productinfo/500-45FS10/



Love my dan wesson discretion.  Dan wesson vigil (MSRP $1300) might be in your price range.

https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/vigil/

Bota-CS1

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2021, 06:15:58 AM »
Wait 45 cost more than 9?

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You shot my Springfield with the 10 round mags.
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changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2021, 08:41:57 AM »
So do these wilson 1911 mags fit in any 1911?

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changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2021, 08:42:11 AM »
You shot my Springfield with the 10 round mags.
Which model was it?

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Bota-CS1

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2021, 08:49:59 AM »
Which model was it?

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It was the Loaded Baked Potato...j/k it was the Loaded Operator
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macsak

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2021, 09:50:24 AM »
It was the Loaded Baked Potato...j/k it was the Loaded Operator

mmmm
loaded baked potato...

macsak

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2021, 09:50:44 AM »
So do these wilson 1911 mags fit in any 1911?

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aletheuo137

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2021, 10:49:09 AM »
Wait 45 cost more than 9?

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Hasn't been proven in a court of law!

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2021, 12:33:40 PM »
Hasn't been proven in a court of law!

I could have gone ALL DAY without that reference!!   :popcorn:

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2021, 01:22:04 PM »
So do these wilson 1911 mags fit in any 1911?

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There are plenty of different terms used for the different sizes of 1911's. There are 5 basic styles that they can be grouped in.

Long Slide - 6" slide on a full size frame.

Government - 5" slide with a full size frame. The standard flush fit magazine typically holds 7 rounds.

Commander - 4.25" slide with full size frame. There are some manufacturer's that use a 4" slide, but they are generally referred to as a "Commander."

Concealed Carry Officer or CCO - 4.25" slide with Officer frame.

Officer - 3.5" slide with Officer frame. The Officer is a shorter frame and the standard flush fit magazines hold 6 rounds. 3" slides are often referred to as an "Officer" as well.

https://www.1911addicts.com/threads/1911-sizes.177/

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There are currently three "frame" sizes for most 1911 pistols, roughly corresponding to
full-size, compact and subcompact sizes
. There are also a number of micro-sized pistols
that have 1911-derived designs as well.

Government frame: the "Government" frame is the full-size pistol. Barrel length is 5 inches,
for an overall length of 8.25 inches. Height is usually 5.5 inches, and width is typically about
1 inch \at the slide and around 1.2 inches at the grip.

Commander frame: the "Commander frame" is derived from the Colt Commander of 1950,
and is a very popular compact model that some prefer for concealed carry. In truth, "compact"
is somewhat relative. A true Commander 1911 has merely had ¾" shaved off the barrel and
slide, but is otherwise the same size.

Officer frame: the Officer 1911 is the subcompact variant. Standard barrel length is 3.5 inches
for most models from most manufacturers, though there are shorter barrel lengths out there.
The grip is also shortened, as most Officer frames are 4.8 inches in height or shorter.

There is some overlap between Commander and Officer frames. The original version - the
Rock Island Arsenal Officer's pistol was a Commander slide with a shortened grip, and a
number of 1911 pistols with a Commander slide and barrel but Officer frames are available
to date.

Micro 1911 pistols, like the Kimber Micro, Sig Sauer P238 and P938, and the Colt Mustang,
take many cues from the 1911. These pistols are micro-sized and are highly popular for concealed
carry, though are chambered for .380 and 9mm only. The single-action operation remains,
as does the thumb safety, but the grip safety is omitted.
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The Government frame is arguably the most popular full-size gun for concealed carry, as the slim
dimensions - less than an inch at the slide, no more than 1.3 inches at the grips - allow it to be
concealed more easily than the double-stack "wonder nines" of the modern era. Both IWB and
OWB concealed carry with a full-size is easily done.

Commander frames are not much smaller than the Government frame, but the Officer frame
pistols are certainly the 1911 pistol to have for a CCW gun.
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Another thing to be aware of is the Achilles' heel of the 1911 pistol is the magazines. Factory mags
can be of varying quality; some are great and some should be tossed straight away. As a result, it's
a good idea to invest in some quality magazines. MecGar, Chip McCormick and Wilson Combat are
very popular brands.

https://aliengearholsters.com/blog/guide-to-the-1911-pistol/

So, now that we've described the common 1911 pistol variations and sizes, we need to look at the mags that fit them:



CM_1911_Mag_Size_Guide.pdf

https://support.checkmatemagazines.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/360070896214/CM_1911_Mag_Size_Guide.pdf


If your 1911 is  micro or other proprietary design, you'll have the check the specs.  You probably can't use standard size 1911 mags.

Although the sizes of 1911 mags are for the most part standard, the designs of the pistols may mean yours will work with any brand/model mag, or you may find only a few brands/models are truly compatible.  It's best to buy AND TRY AT THE RANGE to make sure.  Keep what works, and sell what doesn't.  I went with Wilson Combat Elite ETM because many Nightmare owners recommended it, and the ETM design was getting top reviews.  The mag with the extended floor plate resembles the stock mag for my Sig 1911 almost exactly, which is a plus for me.
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aletheuo137

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2021, 01:40:25 PM »
I could have gone ALL DAY without that reference!!   :popcorn:

 :geekdanc: :shaka:
Sorry to spoil your day!

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ren

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2021, 02:37:51 PM »
The quality of the 1911 is largely a function of price.  The Springfield Professional 1911 that the FBI and HRT (Hostage Rescue Team) issue has a civilian MSRP of $3,363.00,  But the tolerances on it are so tight, it takes some breaking-in just to be able to rack the slide easily!

My 1911 is the Sig Nightmare.  I chose it because it takes the standard 1911 design and improves some of the ergonomics.  Plus, the black and silver colors just appeal to me.  Comes with an 8rd mag and 7rd mag.  I also got a free soft Sig pistol case at the time.  I added a few Wilson Combat Elite 8rd mags.



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Flapp_Jackson

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2021, 02:48:03 PM »
cute gun

It trips my trigger!   :thumbsup: :geekdanc: :shaka:
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changemyoil66

Re: First 1911 in 45
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2021, 06:09:11 PM »
https://www.1911addicts.com/threads/1911-sizes.177/

https://aliengearholsters.com/blog/guide-to-the-1911-pistol/

So, now that we've described the common 1911 pistol variations and sizes, we need to look at the mags that fit them:



CM_1911_Mag_Size_Guide.pdf

https://support.checkmatemagazines.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/360070896214/CM_1911_Mag_Size_Guide.pdf


If your 1911 is  micro or other proprietary design, you'll have the check the specs.  You probably can't use standard size 1911 mags.

Although the sizes of 1911 mags are for the most part standard, the designs of the pistols may mean yours will work with any brand/model mag, or you may find only a few brands/models are truly compatible.  It's best to buy AND TRY AT THE RANGE to make sure.  Keep what works, and sell what doesn't.  I went with Wilson Combat Elite ETM because many Nightmare owners recommended it, and the ETM design was getting top reviews.  The mag with the extended floor plate resembles the stock mag for my Sig 1911 almost exactly, which is a plus for me.
This helps bigtime. Thanks.

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