best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp (Read 1254 times)

stangzilla

best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« on: July 13, 2022, 09:43:06 AM »
maybe you want to carry a 45acp for ccw or for HD
my HD pistol is a XDm in 45 acp with 4.5" barrel.  it has been super reliable over the past 10 years.
recently got a couple boxes of these to feed the XDm or my Springfield Operator



« Last Edit: July 13, 2022, 09:53:47 AM by stangzilla »

stangzilla

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2022, 07:03:03 AM »


200 grain +p avg expansion is .787 inches
That's why 45acp!  :thumbsup:

aaronc5362

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2022, 10:12:24 PM »
maybe you want to carry a 45acp for ccw or for HD
my HD pistol is a XDm in 45 acp with 4.5" barrel.  it has been super reliable over the past 10 years.
recently got a couple boxes of these to feed the XDm or my Springfield Operator





Hey I got the same gun lol. Whatever you do, dont buy wolff guide rod. Its a p.o.s. and it'll break. Then they wont replace it. Lol. I got some 185g critical defense. I really wanna get some HST's but I think I'll just use this pistol for range use.

stangzilla

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2022, 08:17:43 AM »

oldfart

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2022, 10:27:39 AM »
If I carried my little colt, I would use ball.
230 gr ball would seriously demoralize a perp
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esk808

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2022, 12:25:27 PM »
If I carried my little colt, I would use ball.
230 gr ball would seriously demoralize a perp

I think so.

45ACP has long been documented as a manstopper, even with ball ammo.  While I do have 45ACP HPs, I wouldn't hesitate to use ball ammo, if that's all I had.

The smaller 9mm, I think, is more prone to tinkering with bullet weight, composition, and bullet configuration (JSP, HP, etc. etc.)
for an "ideal manstopper".

stangzilla

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2022, 12:30:19 PM »
If I carried my little colt, I would use ball.
230 gr ball would seriously demoralize a perp

they all fall to 45 hard ball !!!  :shaka:

drck1000

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2022, 12:33:04 PM »
they all fall to 45 hard ball !!!  :shaka:
Not "Colt 45"? 

Not the firearm. . .  ;D

stangzilla

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2022, 12:51:28 PM »

stangzilla

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2022, 12:54:27 PM »
Not "Colt 45"? 

Not the firearm. . .  ;D

I haven't had one of these for many years.  they still make this stuff?

stangzilla

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2022, 01:01:18 PM »
HST expands to nearly 1 inch!!!
now that's expansion   :thumbsup:

drck1000

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2022, 01:07:12 PM »
I haven't had one of these for many years.  they still make this stuff?

Dunno.  I used to see them in the "corner stores" when I was in college. 

stangzilla

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2022, 01:15:18 PM »
Dunno.  I used to see them in the "corner stores" when I was in college.

right next to the Schlitz malt liquor, i bet
I remember Crazy Horse malt liquor.  I recently looked it up and made by same guys that make Arizona Ice tea.  I think they got sued by some Indian tribe so now they only make the ice tea
but i remember those malt liquor beers tasted pretty nasty
but the 40 oz would only cost like 1.75-1.99 per bottle, so if you on a budget not a bad choice.  went well with a 7-11 hot dog with chili.  a meal and a 40 oz for about $3 back in the day.  late 80's early 90's

drck1000

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2022, 01:20:15 PM »
right next to the Schlitz malt liquor, i bet
I remember Crazy Horse malt liquor.  I recently looked it up and made by same guys that make Arizona Ice tea.  I think they got sued by some Indian tribe so now they only make the ice tea
but i remember those malt liquor beers tasted pretty nasty
but the 40 oz would only cost like 1.75-1.99 per bottle, so if you on a budget not a bad choice.  went well with a 7-11 hot dog with chili.  a meal and a 40 oz for about $3 back in the day.  late 80's early 90's
Ya.  Right next to the Old E and Mickeys (8ball)

IIRC, Colt 45 was 0.99, when I was in college.  haha

QUIETShooter

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2022, 01:20:53 PM »
they all fall to 45 hard ball !!!  :shaka:


Not "Colt 45"? 

Not the firearm. . .  ;D

In my younger days it made me fall down every time! :thumbsup:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

stangzilla

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2022, 01:22:17 PM »
Ya.  Right next to the Old E and Mickeys (8ball)

IIRC, Colt 45 was 0.99, when I was in college.  haha

OE and Mickeys weren't too bad

drck1000

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2022, 01:23:00 PM »

In my younger days it made me fall down every time! :thumbsup:
One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor

Took more than 4, but I effing hate ta-kill-ya

stangzilla

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2022, 02:12:10 PM »

In my younger days it made me fall down every time! :thumbsup:

i remember those malt liquors would give me a mean hangover the next day

stangzilla

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2022, 02:15:15 PM »
I like to watch reviews of the XTP's bc I have a lot of them for reloading, so it's nice to see that they do fairly well for something is very readily available
the HST does really well at expansion, the XTP fairly good expansion but not nearly as good as HST or GD, but XTP does penetrate more
I would say the XTP is a good backup projectile after the GD and HST


oldfart

Re: best carry/defensive ammo 45 acp
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2022, 12:27:22 PM »
If I carried my little colt, I would use ball.
230 gr ball would seriously demoralize a perp
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I have some time while in covid isolation.
So let me elaborate.
My little colt is a nifty officer's model.
I have vetted it in competition and therefore trusted it enough to carry on a mainland trip.
The old 1911 geometry was never designed to feed hollow point ammo.
So when I shot it in competition, I only used 230 gr. RN.
It performed reliably and accurately as well. In fact, there was actually a stage where the IPSC target was set at about 40 or 50 yards.
The time limit was generous enough to allow me to drop to the roll-over prone position and engage.
The RO was impressed with the hits. LOL
IIRC I actually won a pretty nice prize for that match.
The point I'm trying to make is that the old 1911 platform is a fine defensive pistol, but I would never trust it with hollow point ammo.

I would trust the newer generation of polymer 45 auto pistols with HP ammo. They seem to have better feed geometry.

I encourage everyone to vet their defensive pistol with actual hollow pt ammo or at least a reasonable facsimile thereof.
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