women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service? (Read 2740 times)

eyeeatingfish

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2024, 11:19:55 AM »
Another butt hurt, nonsensical, incoherent reply.

 :geekdanc:

Nothing you said supports your false "typo" excuse.

You are under some sort of false assumption I have to prove anything to you. Not to mention there is no way for me to ever prove it to you either. Then there is the fact you are just going to believe what you want to believe so you can keep on trolling.

changemyoil66

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2024, 11:47:47 AM »
I am not saying you are wrong about the height, I would certainly prefer tall body guards around me. There are needs for women agents on protection details and women tend to be shorter so a balance would have to be struck on the minimum height. 6' and you will have too few female agents, 5' and too much exposure for the asset.

Since you're not saying I'm wrong, then are you saying i'm right?  So why post additional hypotheticals about freezing?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2024, 11:52:46 AM »
Since you're not saying I'm wrong, then are you saying i'm right?  So why post additional hypotheticals about freezing?

Because he needs to be argumentative.

Once he starts arguing, he needs to be right even when he knows he's hyper-focusing on a small facet of the question.

Nobody here brought up "freezing" of agents except him.  Yet, here we are explaining that to him and him pushing back like reactions and physical size and strength are the same conversation.

He just has to be part of every discussion.
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

changemyoil66

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2024, 12:23:43 PM »
Because he needs to be argumentative.

Once he starts arguing, he needs to be right even when he knows he's hyper-focusing on a small facet of the question.

Nobody here brought up "freezing" of agents except him.  Yet, here we are explaining that to him and him pushing back like reactions and physical size and strength are the same conversation.

He just has to be part of every discussion.

In fact, the female agent/agents didn't freeze.  They just weren't tall enough to protect Trump sufficiently, reached down to grab his hat (even more reduced their height and exposed Trumps mid section), had trouble re-holstering, heard on mic saying "what are we doing?".

So, yeah, IDK why freezing was even brought up as a whataboutism. 

Inb4 a taller SS agent can also run away.  No female agent ran away either.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2024, 02:22:11 PM »
In fact, the female agent/agents didn't freeze.  They just weren't tall enough to protect Trump sufficiently, reached down to grab his hat (even more reduced their height and exposed Trumps mid section), had trouble re-holstering, heard on mic saying "what are we doing?".

So, yeah, IDK why freezing was even brought up as a whataboutism. 

Inb4 a taller SS agent can also run away.  No female agent ran away either.

A six foot 4 inch tall agent, male or female, might have a problem running or with any other physical exertion depending on their age, genetics and overall fitness. The more above the average height a person is, the more difficult it is for the circulatory and respiratory systems to support such a large frame.  Larger muscles and bones and more weight require more oxygen supplied to function well.  Often the internal organs are not sized to do that for a very tall person.

Therefore, very tall agents might be more prone to suffer a heart attack under stress.

Let's let the shorties do protection so they don't suffer a heart attack running away from danger. 

That, or only hire tall agents that will freeze.  It doesn't take much oxygen to stand still.

/sarc/
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

eyeeatingfish

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2024, 11:39:07 AM »
Since you're not saying I'm wrong, then are you saying i'm right?  So why post additional hypotheticals about freezing?

My comments were about the overall performance while under fire, not about an innate trait of the agent beyond their control. BTW I never claimed she froze so nice strawman.

Height can make you better at catching a bullet but it isn't going to make you perform better under fire.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2024, 11:43:02 AM »
Because he needs to be argumentative.

Once he starts arguing, he needs to be right even when he knows he's hyper-focusing on a small facet of the question.

Nobody here brought up "freezing" of agents except him.  Yet, here we are explaining that to him and him pushing back like reactions and physical size and strength are the same conversation.

He just has to be part of every discussion.

Sounds like you are writing an autobiography.

changemyoil66

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2024, 02:39:19 PM »
My comments were about the overall performance while under fire, not about an innate trait of the agent beyond their control. BTW I never claimed she froze so nice strawman.

Height can make you better at catching a bullet but it isn't going to make you perform better under fire.

Please show me where I stated you claimed she froze.

Your reply was as expected.  A simple "yes, you're right" would be sufficient.  But instead, you double down on performing better under fire and height.  Which no one but yourself is mentioning and unrelated to the original height post. Thanks for playing again.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2024, 03:16:51 PM »
Sounds like you are writing an autobiography.

Owie!  Get the aloe!  Such a burn!

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Really?  That's your best shot?

 :geekdanc:
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

eyeeatingfish

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2024, 11:36:50 AM »
Owie!  Get the aloe!  Such a burn!

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Really?  That's your best shot?

 :geekdanc:

Sounds like you yearn for conflict. I could do better but what is the point in giving you what you want since most the other people here get annoyed with your antics anyway?

eyeeatingfish

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2024, 11:40:26 AM »
Please show me where I stated you claimed she froze.

Your reply was as expected.  A simple "yes, you're right" would be sufficient.  But instead, you double down on performing better under fire and height.  Which no one but yourself is mentioning and unrelated to the original height post. Thanks for playing again.

You don't have to mention it, freezing was my comment, I brought it up. If you can't understand why freezing was brought up then you need to work on your reading comprehension because it fit within the nature of my comment.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #51 on: September 19, 2024, 03:18:15 PM »
You don't have to mention it, freezing was my comment, I brought it up. If you can't understand why freezing was brought up then you need to work on your reading comprehension because it fit within the nature of my comment.

most the other people here get annoyed with your antics
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

changemyoil66

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #52 on: September 20, 2024, 08:21:35 AM »
You don't have to mention it, freezing was my comment, I brought it up. If you can't understand why freezing was brought up then you need to work on your reading comprehension because it fit within the nature of my comment.

THe "nature" of your comment about freezing had no contribution to a logical discussion.  You need to work on your comprehension of what a topic that's being discussed, so you don't post unnecessary things.

InB4 a taller agent has bigger feet, so they may trip easier over a cord or rock compared to a shorter agent who has smaller feed. We see in football all the time that less than an inch in foot size can mean the difference between in bounds or out of bounds.

eyeeatingfish

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #53 on: September 25, 2024, 01:57:15 PM »
most the other people here get annoyed with your antics

Yet your behavior is the one that causes threads to degenerate and go to crap and have to be locked.

eyeeatingfish

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #54 on: September 25, 2024, 01:58:42 PM »
THe "nature" of your comment about freezing had no contribution to a logical discussion.  You need to work on your comprehension of what a topic that's being discussed, so you don't post unnecessary things.

It was relevant because one of the criticisms of the female in question was that she failed to perform. If it had been merely about her height then you would be right but it wasn't so you aren't.

changemyoil66

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #55 on: September 25, 2024, 03:58:45 PM »
It was relevant because one of the criticisms of the female in question was that she failed to perform. If it had been merely about her height then you would be right but it wasn't so you aren't.

There is no way to measure if someone would "freeze".  The obvious height gap can be. Which is why I stated your argument about freezing holds no weight.

This is why the height thing was brought up, and so can other measurable factors as females often lack upper body strength compared to men, hold less muscle mass and more body fat. 

Only you brought up freezing and now trying to CYA about the issue instead of just saying "yeah, me stating freezing was wrong. Thank you CMO for noticing it and setting me straight".

eyeeatingfish

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #56 on: September 26, 2024, 12:02:42 PM »
There is no way to measure if someone would "freeze".  The obvious height gap can be. Which is why I stated your argument about freezing holds no weight.

This is why the height thing was brought up, and so can other measurable factors as females often lack upper body strength compared to men, hold less muscle mass and more body fat. 

Only you brought up freezing and now trying to CYA about the issue instead of just saying "yeah, me stating freezing was wrong. Thank you CMO for noticing it and setting me straight".

I wasn't talking about height so pointing out height can be measured it irrelevant. I was talking about her performance under fire. There is no point in keep going on about this when it is clear you talking about height is not the same thing as me talking about her performance.

changemyoil66

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2024, 03:28:06 PM »
I wasn't talking about height so pointing out height can be measured it irrelevant. I was talking about her performance under fire. There is no point in keep going on about this when it is clear you talking about height is not the same thing as me talking about her performance.

Now you think numbers, which are based on fact are irrelevant. Thanks for admitting I was right. 

BTW, IDK if you saw the video, but we saw her performance under fire.  No one "froze". So even with this, freezing isn't relevant to the convo.

Maybe there should be no movement outside a climate controlled environment in case someone freezes due to the cold weather.  But what if that climate control fails. Maybe a 24/7 fire burning is the only option to make sure that agents don't freeze due to the weather.

eyeeatingfish

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #58 on: October 01, 2024, 02:13:46 PM »
Now you think numbers, which are based on fact are irrelevant. Thanks for admitting I was right. 

BTW, IDK if you saw the video, but we saw her performance under fire.  No one "froze". So even with this, freezing isn't relevant to the convo.

Maybe there should be no movement outside a climate controlled environment in case someone freezes due to the cold weather.  But what if that climate control fails. Maybe a 24/7 fire burning is the only option to make sure that agents don't freeze due to the weather.

It was irrelevent to my point.
Do you not understand that within the same overall subject I can make a point that is different than the point you are trying to make.

I didn't say she froze, I spoke generally about the ability to predict how people will perform under fire. Freezing is just an example of the way some people fail to perform under fire. Don't fixate on the word freeze so much. You need to go back and read the intial conversation again because you keep swooshing yourself.

changemyoil66

Re: women SHOULDN'T be in Secret Service?
« Reply #59 on: October 01, 2024, 03:23:47 PM »
It was irrelevent to my point.
Do you not understand that within the same overall subject I can make a point that is different than the point you are trying to make.

I didn't say she froze, I spoke generally about the ability to predict how people will perform under fire. Freezing is just an example of the way some people fail to perform under fire. Don't fixate on the word freeze so much. You need to go back and read the intial conversation again because you keep swooshing yourself.

Yes it is irrelevant to your point. You once again are making stuff up that doesn't apply to the convo at hand. Which is why I did what you did and explained other plausible variables that sound good, but cannot be factored in. Like the taller means bigger feet, which means more likely to trip on stuff due to feet being 4 inches bigger than a womans foot.

I know you didn't say she froze, you said with regard to a taller agent, they can freeze.  You shouldn't fixate on freezing and admit it had nothing to do with the convo and should have never been brought up as it's a waste of space, time, and typing.  But yes, lets keep it going to try to dig yourself deeper. Your turn.