Just need to get all permits and licenses increased to 4 years!

Are you saying you need 4 years to pick up a handgun you promised to buy?  Not very considerate of the seller, are you?

instead of begging for longer expiration periods, how about they honor the permit that doesn't expire: 

The Second Amendment to the US Constitution

More than half the states are already doing this with more on the way.

The Second Amendment to the US Constitution

He doesn't understand this.

He doesn't understand this.

As long as the infringements include due process, he's okay with it.

Half the states who have Constitutional Carry has people with common sense.

The other half of the states that don't have Constitutional Carry also have people with common sense.

But they're getting paid to deny that common sense.

Took our new CCW class under the new rules/law with Hawaii Tactical Division.  Will keep updated on the new submission requiremetns.

1 thing that is new that is not on the "HPD Checklist" that's on their website is the affidavit saying you under stand sensitive places, etc...YOU must sign this and have it notarized.  This is separate from the CCW affidavit the instructor will give you that they sign off on.

 

    Safety Class of February 3rd, your Safety class affidavits will be ready by 5pm February 6th.
Let me know if you are picking up or want them mailed.

    You have already been given a copy of the newly required "Affidavit of Acknowledgement" for the course but if you want a fill-able copy, let me know and I'll send you one.

   Mind your muzzle !

   Rocky

This is with the VP9 and irons. Rds was slightly worst. Both done after not shooting for over a year.

Guud enuff.

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Are you saying you need 4 years to pick up a handgun you promised to buy?  Not very considerate of the seller, are you?

instead of begging for longer expiration periods, how about they honor the permit that doesn't expire: 

The Second Amendment to the US Constitution

More than half the states are already doing this with more on the way.

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Not what I was saying, stop trying to start an argument.

A permit that doesn't expire would, of course, be ideal but extending it to 4 years would at least be a step in the right direction.

He doesn't understand this.

Okay troll...

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Not what I was saying, stop trying to start an argument.

A permit that doesn't expire would, of course, be ideal but extending it to 4 years would at least be a step in the right direction.

Maybe he's clarifying since you often move goal post and other things. #objective.

Okay troll...

Where's the objectivity?

#addingnuance

Where's the objectivity?

So I have a fanny pack (Spiritus Systems) and Mrs CMO has the Vertx EDC (Lena line).  Of the 2, the Vertx seems much more sturdier.  It is about 35% larger too.  The Lena one is also much more comfortable as the straps aren't as flimsy as the Spriritus one.

cool story, bro...

So I have a fanny pack (Spiritus Systems) and Mrs CMO has the Vertx EDC (Lena line).  Of the 2, the Vertx seems much more sturdier.  It is about 35% larger too.  The Lena one is also much more comfortable as the straps aren't as flimsy as the Spriritus one.

The waistband on the Vertx is better. Overall, the Vertx feels like better quality.

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This is the level of confidence I have with HPD.  I'm applying for my CCW as my other one expired.  I am making copies of all paperwork because some may go "missing".  I have multiple friends who got call backs saying they're "missing" something.

Compare this to applying for our NV CCW. Just take the signed paper that you took the required test over to Metro and fill out 1 or 2 forms there.  The signed form by the CCW instructor doesn't have to be notarized, so you receive it on the spot after the class is done. No passport photo is needed, they take your prints and photo on the spot as well. Then mail you your CCW card within 120 days.  They also take credit card.

So add in the trips one has to make for a HI CCW. 1 trip for your passport photo. 1 trip to the bank to grab cash. 1 trip if you have Straub and they won't send over the medical waiver via fax (if you choose to pick it up). 1 trip back to HPD to take your photo as they won't take it until you've been approved and issue the CCW card.

Hawaii's system for CCW was designed with the three D's in mind:

Deny

Discourage

Delay

I can't think of any other reason the system is the way it is compared to the other Free States.

please show me where anyone said everyone in hpd is against anyone...

I got a 4 year ccw, no need to be paranoid everyone in hpd isn't against you.  Plenty supporters, others just doing their jobs.  Only probably a few anti's.

I got a 4 year ccw, no need to be paranoid everyone in hpd isn't against you.  Plenty supporters, others just doing their jobs.  Only probably a few anti's.

its not about you