USMCA passed
phase I china deal seems to be going through
boris Johnson leading exit polling

winning!

USMCA passed
phase I china deal seems to be going through
boris Johnson leading exit polling

winning!

The world gets tossed a few scraps and your video guy thinks we are free?
I'm old, somewhat of a Libertarian, I hate Democrats, and I don't talk to any
government agents if I can help it.  I'm free because I ignore our "stupid" laws.
Not because some Democrat/socialist/monarch tosses me some scraps.
We are all free,  until we submit to that which we know is wrong.
Having said that, don't do stupid, and select your battles carefully.
I'm going to twist a famous quote,
"Your job is not to die for your ideology, your job is to make the other Bastard
die for his".

USMCA passed
phase I china deal seems to be going through
boris Johnson leading exit polling

winning!

No.

Actually loosing BADLY.

Impeachment proceeding still going through.
More gun control laws.
More illegal immigration.
Higher national deficit and debt.
No border wall.
No halt of America's illegal wars of aggression.
Pissing off Russia, China, Iran, and DPRK even more...

No.

Actually loosing BADLY.

Impeachment proceeding still going through.
More gun control laws.
More illegal immigration.
Higher national deficit and debt.
No border wall.
No halt of America's illegal wars of aggression.
Pissing off Russia, China, Iran, and DPRK even more...

some people will be mad for their whole lives and just sit there in a pool of tantrums...
but
Jesus still loves you

No.

Actually loosing BADLY.

Impeachment proceeding still going through.
More gun control laws.
More illegal immigration.
Higher national deficit and debt.
No border wall.
No halt of America's illegal wars of aggression.
Pissing off Russia, China, Iran, and DPRK even more...

you forgot:
Fascist goons
Distressed people
ICBM silos

you forgot:
Fascist goons
Distressed people
ICBM silos

you forgot:
heads

How bout commie, pinko bastards!

you forgot:
Fascist goons
Distressed people
ICBM silos

There's more:

More states becoming democrat strongholds.
Gun confiscation beginning in Virginia.
More tax dollars being sent to the military instead of domestic spending.
More desperate acts of violence in Hawaii.
More "shoot first and claim self-defense later" law enforcement officers.
Property taxes will increase soon locally.

We are definitely loosing.

How bout commie, pinko bastards!

you WAYCIST!

No.

Actually loosing BADLY.

Impeachment proceeding still going through.
More gun control laws.
More illegal immigration.
Higher national deficit and debt.
No border wall.
No halt of America's illegal wars of aggression.
Pissing off Russia, China, Iran, and DPRK even more...

Since you apparently know how to get America from “loosing” to winning, let’s hear it.

You think we need to subjugate America to making “nice nice” with Russia, China, Iran, DPRK, and others? Are you serious? You think Hawaii would’ve been better off if the Axis had prevailed? Really?!?!

"Since you apparently know how to get America from “loosing” to winning, let’s hear it."

Depending how you define winning, I do not think there is anything one can do to get America winning again.

As with all empires in history, the US empire is a now in its decline phase and there is nothing anyone can do now to reverse the unenviable outcome.  Charismatic and cult personality leaders like Trump, who at least purports conservative values and takes those action that he thinks will help, are only stop-gap measures at best as well as outliers.  Once he is out of office, mainstream politics will resume and continue those neoconservative and neoliberal foreign and domestic policies that has brought about and will further America's decline.

Hence, Americans are loosing with their nation state eventually changing into something liberally different or Balkanizing like the former Soviet Union.



"You think we need to subjugate America to making “nice nice” with Russia, China, Iran, DPRK, and others? Are you serious?"

Yes, I am serious.

America has historically been an isolationist country and never wanted to bother or be bothered by any other nation.  Particularly after the illegal annexation of Hawaii in 1898, America has been highjacked by imperial globalists who believe every nation has to be a vassal state and pay tribute to the US in the form of cheap labor, oil, or some other type of commodity.  Failure to comply results in tariffs, covert color revolutions, illegal overthrows, proxy wars, or false pretext led aggressive invasions.  Those nations you listed REFUSE to be vassals of the declining US EMPIRE.



"You think Hawaii would’ve been better off if the Axis had prevailed? Really?!?!"

Can't answer that one, but as Hawaii was illegally annexed by then till the present, Hawaii has and continues to be in harms way in those nations who wish freedom from the ever declining shadow of the American empire.

"Since you apparently know how to get America from “loosing” to winning, let’s hear it."

Depending how you define winning, I do not think there is anything one can do to get America winning again.

As with all empires in history, the US empire is a now in its decline phase and there is nothing anyone can do now to reverse the unenviable outcome.  Charismatic and cult personality leaders like Trump, who at least purports conservative values and takes those action that he thinks will help, are only stop-gap measures at best as well as outliers.  Once he is out of office, mainstream politics will resume and continue those neoconservative and neoliberal foreign and domestic policies that has brought about and will further America's decline.

Hence, Americans are loosing with their nation state eventually changing into something liberally different or Balkanizing like the former Soviet Union.



"You think we need to subjugate America to making “nice nice” with Russia, China, Iran, DPRK, and others? Are you serious?"

Yes, I am serious.

America has historically been an isolationist country and never wanted to bother or be bothered by any other nation.  Particularly after the illegal annexation of Hawaii in 1898, America has been highjacked by imperial globalists who believe every nation has to be a vassal state and pay tribute to the US in the form of cheap labor, oil, or some other type of commodity.  Failure to comply results in tariffs, covert color revolutions, illegal overthrows, proxy wars, or false pretext led aggressive invasions.  Those nations you listed REFUSE to be vassals of the declining US EMPIRE.



"You think Hawaii would’ve been better off if the Axis had prevailed? Really?!?!"

Can't answer that one, but as Hawaii was illegally annexed by then till the present, Hawaii has and continues to be in harms way in those nations who wish freedom from the ever declining shadow of the American empire.

  you must be wearing some serious industrial grade tinfoil

Do you vote?

you must be wearing some serious industrial grade tinfoil

Do you vote?

Is that the best you can offer?  Do you vote?   

Getting old Ren.   

As always, you resort to personal attacks and try to reframe the argument, since you can not refute the points I raise.

Is that the best you can offer?  Do you vote?   

Getting old Ren.   

As always, you resort to personal attacks and try to reframe the argument, since you can not refute the points I raise.

What's getting old is your Anti-American, kick-everyone-out-who-is-not-native rhetoric.
Nothing to contribute as a gun owner. Equipment reviews? Reloading tips? Shooting tips?
The OP's title was "Why its good to be free" and I think it was appropriate given the season of thankfulness. It's like watching a beautiful, postcard-worthy sunset then someone comes by and says "Well that's another day gone in our lives...one day closer to death"
then you did a Greta Thunberg with some emo music playing in that background....perhaps Depeche Mode and the Cure or how about Linkin Park?

white noise....

Merry Christmas!

"What's getting old is your Anti-American, kick-everyone-out-who-is-not-native rhetoric."

In all the exchanges you and I ever had, you still have not heard carefully of the things I ever clarified with respect to illegal occupation of Hawaii by the US, especially the ridiculous notion of kicking non-US government employed people out.




"Nothing to contribute as a gun owner. Equipment reviews? Reloading tips? Shooting tips?"

Are you drinking too much eggnog?   This is the sub forum of political discussion.




"The OP's title was "Why its good to be free" and I think it was appropriate given the season of thankfulness. It's like watching a beautiful, postcard-worthy sunset then someone comes by and says "Well that's another day gone in our lives...one day closer to death"
then you did a Greta Thunberg with some emo music playing in that background....perhaps Depeche Mode and the Cure or how about Linkin Park?"


If you wish to critique the tone of my response, why did you not comment on Groveler' post as well?  He had some contrasting things to say to the OP.

I'll tell you why not.  You just don't like anything any critical thinking Hawaiian has to say.  That's why.

In fact, if it was Flapp-Jackson who made the observations I posted, you probably would have said nothing, but kowtowed to him.


Merry Christmas!

"What's getting old is your Anti-American, kick-everyone-out-who-is-not-native rhetoric."

In all the exchanges you and I ever had, you still have not heard carefully of the things I ever clarified with respect to illegal occupation of Hawaii by the US, especially the ridiculous notion of kicking non-US government employed people out.




"Nothing to contribute as a gun owner. Equipment reviews? Reloading tips? Shooting tips?"

Are you drinking too much eggnog?   This is the sub forum of political discussion.




"The OP's title was "Why its good to be free" and I think it was appropriate given the season of thankfulness. It's like watching a beautiful, postcard-worthy sunset then someone comes by and says "Well that's another day gone in our lives...one day closer to death"
then you did a Greta Thunberg with some emo music playing in that background....perhaps Depeche Mode and the Cure or how about Linkin Park?"


If you wish to critique the tone of my response, why did you not comment on Groveler' post as well?  He had some contrasting things to say to the OP.

I'll tell you why not.  You just don't like anything any critical thinking Hawaiian has to say.  That's why.

In fact, if it was Flapp-Jackson who made the observations I posted, you probably would have said nothing, but kowtowed to him.


Merry Christmas!

Unprovable and unrelated hypothetical, hyperbolic bullcrap.   

if you want to drag me into this hissy fit, use actual facts, not some Liberal-esque straw man "never happened" rhetoric.   

Free & Winning!
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/stocks-score-another-round-of-records-after-phase-one-us-china-deal-2019-12-16?mod=mw_quote_news

looking at a Tesla

Free & Winning!
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/stocks-score-another-round-of-records-after-phase-one-us-china-deal-2019-12-16?mod=mw_quote_news

looking at a Tesla

Oh no! Ren has fallen prisoner to freedom and capitalism!!! Oh no!!!! I can’t think of anything worse than to do better in your life and to buy yourself something you want. Oh no!!!

I see that Kuleana has posted that we keep heading down a certain path no matter who is in office. And to an extent, I agree with him Except that things reversed during the Reagan era, and some, not all things have reversed under Trump. We are certainly better off now than before Trump came into office. Most of the data proves that. I think removing regulations and renegotiating our trade deals are the biggest accomplishments Trump has done. The wall is being built, and immigration is under better but not good enough control. And I have seen some evidence that the wall is working where it has gone up.We need more of it, tho. Tax reductions were big but only go so far. The economy is great! We have stopped our starting of wars and have pulled back and out of most we were in. There are many more things but I think these are the biggies.

But we still continue down the path we don’t want. What path is that? Deficit spending. We need to stop and we need to do it soon. This will destroy our country in a heartbeat if not reined in in the next 40 or 50 years or so. Maybe less. Socialism is inevitable, I fear. We can stave it off for a while if we continue to vote in conservative values people. But until we get really serious about our deficit spending we are due for a huge correction. And it won’t be pretty.

Oh no! Ren has fallen prisoner to freedom and capitalism!!! Oh no!!!! I can’t think of anything worse than to do better in your life and to buy yourself something you want. Oh no!!!

I see that Kuleana has posted that we keep heading down a certain path no matter who is in office. And to an extent, I agree with him Except that things reversed during the Reagan era, and some, not all things have reversed under Trump. We are certainly better off now than before Trump came into office. Most of the data proves that. I think removing regulations and renegotiating our trade deals are the biggest accomplishments Trump has done. The wall is being built, and immigration is under better but not good enough control. And I have seen some evidence that the wall is working where it has gone up.We need more of it, tho. Tax reductions were big but only go so far. The economy is great! We have stopped our starting of wars and have pulled back and out of most we were in. There are many more things but I think these are the biggies.

But we still continue down the path we don’t want. What path is that? Deficit spending. We need to stop and we need to do it soon. This will destroy our country in a heartbeat if not reined in in the next 40 or 50 years or so. Maybe less. Socialism is inevitable, I fear. We can stave it off for a while if we continue to vote in conservative values people. But until we get really serious about our deficit spending we are due for a huge correction. And it won’t be pretty.

Excellent explanation in regards to how nations spending beyond their means are doomed to suffer the fate of Rome.

Like I said in my earlier post.  Whether one still believes the US is an empire or republic, the fact remains the US is spending way beyond its means.  In particular, the US is spending way too much on the military and too little on everything else that makes up discretionary spending in the budget.  It is sheer lunacy to spend that amount on the military if the goal is to defend the US, especially when you have more than enough nuclear missiles to not only deter any nation from invading its borders, but destroy all life on Earth many times over as well.

The only reason for that obscene waste of resources is to line the pockets of the military industrial complex, as President Eisenhower warned, and the to garrison the planet to maintain its global hegemony; both actions that the US can no longer afford to do.  For all Trump has done to improve the domestic situation he inherited from the incompetent presidents before him, he has not balanced the US budget and only added to the US national debt.  There is no reason to believe that an additional term for Trump in office would be no different.

In the end, the prognosis is still the same.  Unless the US decides to give up its empire status and shut down its global military outposts, the US will continue to decline at the same pace largely due to its deficit spending and there is nothing any future US president can do to reverse that.  In fact, once Trump is out of office, get ready for the US to break its own record of national debt increases.  The question now is how many years does the US nation or empire has left before its final collapse.  The scary thing for "Old School Americans" is that the final collapse can come much sooner than most people think.

Way off topic, but freedom and ability to defend a nation/country is way more than having nukes...