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Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra - are you here for 2A or to talk about guns? I see you post on much more than 2A or guns..... oddly, I understand your message... sort of however it seems if you were really interested in not supporting "in-fighting" that you could be less abrasive with your comments as well. Just saying.
Darmok - recently in "off topic" you wrote a post about we being here for 2A or to talk about guns... im just curious how this post relates to 2A or guns as it is posted in legal and activism for 2A? Please articulate
Many people may not be aware, but Hawaii has some of the strongest fourth amendment protections in the entire country.
You said that you have experience in this stuff, I'm really starting to wonder what type of agency or entity you could work for that didn't train you properly on this.I get the impression his "experience" is not from Law Enforcement's perspective ...
HAWAII STATUTES AND CODES
§291C-172 Refusal to provide identification.
(a) Except as provided in subsection (b), any person detained for a violation of this chapter shall provide the person's name and address, or any proof thereof, or both, upon the lawful order or direction of any police officer in the course and scope of the officer's duties pursuant to this chapter.
(b) A pedestrian who is detained for violating part VII of this chapter shall provide the person's name and address upon the lawful order or direction of a police officer in the course and scope of the officer's duties. If the officer has reasonable grounds to believe that the person is being deceptive or misleading in providing the person's name and address, the person shall provide such proof thereof, upon the lawful order or direction of the police officer. [L 1978, c 111, pt of §2; am L 1984, c 215, §1; am L 1995, c 169, §1]
Sorry, but again, you give bad advice because you assume, again, that you have a clue. It is, in hawaii against the law to refuse to provide your ID.
I would give you the HRS but since you know everything you can go read the HRS and find it your damn self.
If an officer is asking for your id there is a reason, likely a complaint or you match a description. They are not there for fun because they have better shit to do then talk to you for no reason.
Yes you need to present an ID to an officer if so requested. You can be arrested for failure to present ID upon lawful request.
I'll believe it when I see it. Sadly I think there are plenty of americans who are as nit-witted as he is and think exactly alike