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Political Discussion / Re: Tuco from the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
« on: April 10, 2024, 09:53:03 AM »
BTW, he also rambles on about
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What does any nation owe its citizenry in return for the citizens’ allegiance?
Safety, certainly. Can the U.S. be said to be holding up its end of the deal
when people are routinely slaughtered in shopping malls, churches, concerts,
and schools?

i missed that part in the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, etc.  where the country has a duty to ensure every single American is safe.  Even SCOTUS ruled the police (i.e. the government) have no obligation to protect any individual unless they have a specific assignment to do so, such as protecting a prosecution witness or public official.  The only way Black could have the illusion the government has a duty to protect him is because of the Liberal media, our Liberal-run education institutions, his own misperceptions of government's role, and the fact that the government has made it nearly impossible in places like NY where he lives to protect yourself.

If there's a law that you can't grow your own food, then you're dependent on that food to come from somewhere that the government controls.  Same goes for safety.

A lot of this has to do with the spectator syndrome.  If someone in a crowd collapses, and someone else starts rendering aid, you'll be less likely to jump in to help.  That's what government programs can cause.  Why donate to charities, learn self defense/carry a gun, or do anything else that the government is using our taxes to supposedly do? if you know no one from gov't is coming to help you, you're more likely to help yourself and others when the need arises.
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Political Discussion / Re: Tuco from the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
« on: April 10, 2024, 09:29:17 AM »
He quotes JFK: "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country."

He says that's a lie.  I'm not sure how a statement that's a call to action can possibly be a lie, but that's his belief.

He complains that other citizens aren't doing what JFK wanted us to do ("do for your country"), so him doing that is just allowing others to do whatever else they do.

He spends most of time complaining that the country doesn't do anything for him.

Isn't that what JFK said not to do?  Seems like he expects the country to do ... something ... for him specifically, which is literally asking what the country can do for him.  He even admits that's what he's saying at the end of the article.

He pretends to have lived by JFK's "lie", yet he's disappointed that somehow the country still owes him something.

His entire pity party can be encapsulated in his line: "...I’m not sure I ever understood America to begin with."

He's complaining something isn't living up to his idea of what it should do without ever being taught -- or learning on his own -- what that something was designed to do.  Imagine buying a car and complaining it doesn't fly.  Or that your new washing machine doesn't clean the house.

I think his expectations were shaped based on a Liberal education system that preaches dependence on government to solve all our problems.  After all, that's how most politicians get elected -- promising to make our lives better, give us stuff or solve hard problems.

I'm only a decade older than him, but in my life, I was taught independence, working to achieve what i wanted, and how my individual successes make the country better if for no other reason than no one else is being forced to meet my needs.

I would counter his BS with one observation:  the country he is disappointed in has evolved into what it is precisely because our governments (Federal, state & local) have attempted to enact laws and programs to give us the things government is not supposed to be doing.  That shortsightedness has caused people to become dependent on the government, and government to become so massive it's being crushed under its own weight.

He doesn't understand that he's had a successful career as an actor, comedian and writer.  None of that produces anything anyone needs, yet he's not been forced into a life of poverty in order to do what he enjoys/loves.

Maybe we need to cut back on government grants for arts and entertainment so these entitled brats can contribute something useful to the country.  That might be more fulfilling than a life spent in fantasy land.

 :geekdanc:
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Off Topic / Re: Jokes? Jokes, anyone...
« on: April 09, 2024, 07:12:53 PM »
An Army veteran went to his local US Postal Service employment office to apply for work.  As the interviewer sat him down, he asked if he'd like a cup of coffee.

"No, thanks," the applicant replied.  "I gave up coffee a while ago."

"Not a problem," the interviewer said.  "Now, on your application, I see you were in the Army.  Did you deploy to any designated combat zones?"

"Yes.  I served in Afghanistan for almost 4 years."

"Excellent!  I see that gives you many points and a better chance of being hired sooner.  Now, if you don't mind me asking, do you have any disabilities -- service-related or not?"

The vet replied, "Yes, i do.  I was standing in close proximity to an IED when it exploded, and I lost both of my testicles.  Luckily the piece of shrapnel was real small, or things might have been much worse."

With an anguished look on his face, the interviewer said, "That's horrible.  I do thank you for your service and sacrifice.  The good news is your injury gives you enough points I can hire you today.  Our normal operating hours are 8am to 4pm.  If you can start tomorrow, plan on coming in around 10am."

Looking confused, the vet asked, "If you start at 8am, why should I not come in until 10?"

The interviewer replied, "Well, this is still a government job, so for the first two hours, we mostly stand around drinking coffee and scratching our balls.  You probably don't need to be here for that."

 :geekdanc: :rofl:
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Because a significant number of our soldiers now have myocarditis and trashed immune systems

Still not not confused ....    :crazy:

What do the "soldiers" with "myocarditis and trashed immune systems" have to do with the CDC redacting their analysis?

I mean, I get that you are offering a comment that there's an increase in myocarditis in the military, but it seems unrelated to the CDC's redactions.

The CDC analysis didn't offer any evidence about myocarditis one way or the other.  "They spent the money, did the analysis (supposedly), and then covered up the results" is the crticism.

Had they published a finding that disputes increases of myocarditis in military members, then I could see the tie-in.

Drilling down into the various comments on Sociopathic Media, I see a yahoo news 'fact check."  Basically, the first thing they used to argue against this being true is it was not a "study."  I already saw that this was an analysis or response to a FOIA request, so while that could have been a dodge using word games, it wasn't. 

Second, the 148 pages were contained in one of 2 documents in response to a FOIA request, which lists a rules paragraph reference on separate pages that state they are not allowed to release the referenced memo, document, text, etc., unless the requester and the CDC are engaged in a legal dispute -- read "discovery."  Those items are exempted from public release based on DOJ policy:

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Exemption 5 of the FOIA protects "inter-agency or intra-agency memorandums
or letters which would not be available by law to a party other than an agency
in litigation with the agency."

The main part of the fact check article that irritates me is this:
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Several studies found that while myocarditis and pericarditis can follow mRNA
vaccination, the data show vaccination protects against complications. For
example, a study from Germany showed that the risk of dying from myocarditis
from a COVID-19 infection is much higher than the risk of dying from myocarditis
not caused by COVID-19.

That absolutely sidesteps the topic.  I don't think people are concerned about myocarditis/pericarditis being more survivable if you're vaccinated.  I think the issue is whether there's a link between the mRNA vaccinations and the cases of myocarditis/pericarditis in healthy people whether they later contracted COVID-19 or not.

Seems they threw in that German study to spin the narrative away from the actual concern.

Fact Check: CDC Supposedly Released Redacted Study on
Myocarditis After COVID-19 Vaccination. Here's What We Know

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-cdc-supposedly-released-200700345.html
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I'm confused.

What does the state of the US military have to do with the redacted CDC analysis?

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General Discussion / Re: Outrageous! Banning Ammo For Adults Under 21?
« on: April 09, 2024, 01:04:43 PM »
The NSSF was promoting this before for gun ranges to do on their own.  $10 paid for 10 rounds of 22lr to shoot at a private range.  To get new shooters in the door and not be intimidated.

NRA might have grants for clubs to do something similar.

Or firearm owners can do the same on their own just for the cost of ammo, especially 22lr.  I've done this for a couple hundred people so far.  Taught NRA classes for just the cost of supplies for a lot of people too.

I applaud anyone willing to take the time and effort to teach others (including myself).  I can't tell you how many people i've taken to the range for either their first time or for the first time someone who knows what they are doing showed them the safety and shooting basics.  Too many were handed a firearm by a friend or relative and told, "See if you can hit that target."

i also supplied the firearms, did all the cleaning (for days!), and bought all the ammo.  Most would hand me $10-$20, or occasionally more depending on the amount of ammo they used.

What i'm advocating for is the NRA as an organization financially supporting these efforts.  Have ranges offer discounted packages, and have the NRA offset the cost.  It should be easy to prevent abuse and fraud.  Every shooter needs to join the NRA, so they know who you are.  Set caps on rentals, ammo cost, range cost and targets. If John practices once a week, he should be allowed to buy an NRA practice package twice each week -- in case he goes Sat & Sun.  NRA pays the range their share, and you pay the "co-pay" at the time you go shoot.  NRA member numbers can be placed on the reimbursement requests, etc.

NRA sucks up millions of dollars each year.  There's no reason they should be paying themselves and not using that to actually take care of their basic mission.  Simply training instructors who then use their credentials to solicit for paid training sessions is fine, but that isn't enough IMO.  I like that you choose to do what you do, but I don't think that's the norm.
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Political Discussion / Re: When you lose touch you can't relate.
« on: April 09, 2024, 11:22:04 AM »
Yes, I am.

Your Google search should have started with the differences between Constitutional and Democratic Republics and which of the two correlates to the U.S. form of Republicanism, rather than citing the first article to prove yourself correct; an article, mind you, contributed by someone who is a big fan of Obama and his politics, nonetheless.

There are major differences between Democratic and Constitutional Republics that should be understood if you want to be an expert on Republicanism.

I have never met a single person who believes the U.S. is a literal empire, as in the case of nation states that has direct sovereign control over the territories it has influence over. I'm not sure why you are hyper focused on trying to prove yourself right through literal definitions, because it's obvious that people substitute empire interchangeably with imperialistic power because it's easier to say.

Just at you can get your dopamine rush for the day, I will amend my statement and call the U.S. an imperial power instead of an empire going forward.

"Imperialism can be defined as a doctrine, political strategy, practice, state policy, or advocacy that consists in extending power by territorial acquisition or by extending political and economic control outward over other areas. Imperialism oftentimes involves the use of military and economic power, and always aims for more expansion and collective or individual domination."

(https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/imperialism#:~:text=Imperialism%20can%20be%20defined%20as,control%20outward%20over%20other%20areas.)

"The focus of the critique is not just U.S. military power, which is overwhelmingly dominant, but also U.S. cultural influence (rock music, movies, styles of dress and behavior), U.S. political power, which forces countries to change political institutions and practices they would often rather not change, and U.S. economic influences, which force countries to adopt neoliberal policies that often hurt their economies but work to the economic advantage of the United States itself. In all these areas the United States presumes like an old uncle to know best for the rest of the world."

(https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/empire-and-imperialism-united-states)

But please tell us how the U.S. doesn't use it's political, economic or military influence to "motivate" other nations to do what it wants, or to put it's nose in everyone's business, thereby disqualifying it from meeting the criteria for being imperialistic.

The first thing you need to realize is I don't give a shit what you think of me.  That should be obvious by now -- even to you.

If you can't have a discussion without trying to insult me, then i guess you need therapy.  I can't help you there.

I'll point out two things you said as patently ridiculous:

#1

"I have never met a single person who believes the U.S. is a literal empire."

If a debate/disagreement were to hinge on ones tally of the number of people he met who believes something, then he's lost whatever credibility he had.  That's less than anecdotal.

#2

"But please tell us how the U.S. doesn't use it's political, economic or military influence to "motivate" other nations to do what it wants, or to put it's nose in everyone's business, thereby disqualifying it from meeting the criteria for being imperialistic."


I guess you never learned the difference between actually being something versus being like something.

Calling someone foolish (i.e. like a fool / doing foolish things) is NOT the same as being called a fool.

Same is true for "imperialistic" versus "empire."  A nation can demonstrate imperialistic characteristics or actions and still not be an empire.
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Political Discussion / Re: beggars are choosers...
« on: April 09, 2024, 10:46:23 AM »
i just saw another eminent domain story from Oklahoma.  There was a beautiful home with 4 bedrooms, 4 baths, parking garages, and fantastic oak trim throughout.

The house was built on 140 acres as a lifelong home and retirement plan.  All the bathrooms were handicap accessible, etc.

The state wanted to build a new turnpike right through the house and offered $1.5M for the land they needed which included the home.  When built, the road would split their 140 acres down the middle, leaving them some land on both sides of a busy, noisy highway.

The family sued, and the jury awarded them $2.97M, which the state says they may appeal. 

The appraised value of the home is $1.9M.  Had the state offered a fair price, there would have been a better chance it would be accepted.  Now the state is saying the award is $1M too much rationalizing the owners are getting more than the appraised price.   :wtf:  If the state had been fair and made a reasonable offer, the family would not have had to pay lawyers and fight the state for 6 years to get more than the lowball $1.5M offer.

Of course, the lawyers for a case like this would not be working on contingency.  They want to get their fees as the case drags on and on.

Add to that the cost of moving, finding another place to live, and so on.  There's no tellings what the cost of a new home will be in today's market, nor if anything close to the size and quality of the home they lost is even available in an area they want to be in.

So, an eminent domain case is not necessarily going to go the state's way if they don't offer to pay an acceptable amount for the land on Maui.  They can force the sale, but they can't force it without giving just compensation.

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General Discussion / Re: Outrageous! Banning Ammo For Adults Under 21?
« on: April 09, 2024, 10:27:02 AM »
I think I said it correctly the first time.
I take a rather dark view of USA Democrat dominated politics.
 O0 :wtf:

From the NRA website (for whatever that's worth  :geekdanc:):
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Dismayed by the lack of marksmanship shown by their troops, Union veterans
Col. William C. Church and Gen. George Wingate formed the National Rifle
Association in 1871. The primary goal of the association would be to "promote
and encourage rifle shooting on a scientific basis," according to a magazine
editorial written by Church.

After being granted a charter by the state of New York on November 17, 1871,
the NRA was founded. Civil War Gen. Ambrose Burnside, who was also the
former governor of Rhode Island and a U.S. senator, became the fledgling NRA's
first president.
https://home.nra.org/about-the-nra/

I was unaware there were any slaves in New York in 1871 when the NRA was formed. 

In fact, NY started their official emancipation of slaves in 1799 and completed it in 1827 -- long before the Civil War started in 1861 and before the NRA existed.

Hard to teach slaves to shoot when there aren't any in the state.  I highly doubt the slave-owning states would have agreed to teach their slaves to defend themselves, either.
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Off Topic / Re: What are you making for Dinner today?
« on: April 09, 2024, 10:13:24 AM »
They look great! :thumbsup:

Ummm.....what's with the toy grenade in the background....... :rofl:

That ukoy is da bomb?

 :geekdanc: :rofl:

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Off Topic / Re: Total Solar Eclipse -- Monday, 8 April 2024
« on: April 08, 2024, 10:10:06 PM »
Proof the cast of The View are complete morons. 

Whoopi even tried to reel Sunny in, but she failed to understand/explain there are 2 cicadas -- those that emerge from hibernation every 17 years, and those that emerge every 13 years.  This happens to be one of the rare years they both emerge from hibernation in the same season.  There could be billions, if not trillions, of cicadas out and about this year.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/the-view-co-host-embarrassingly-claims-the-solar-eclipse-is-a-sign-of-climate-change/vi-BB1lio4p
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Off Topic / Re: Oh, Sweet Meteor of Death -- Take Me Now!
« on: April 08, 2024, 06:50:36 PM »
I thought clowns belong in the movies and in the circus.

I guess not.

A woman would get kicked out of court for wearing that crap.  But a trans is tolerated because no judge would go there.

The scales of justice will never be balanced again.  And they might as well take the blindfold off.  They can clearly see the bias but do nothing about it.

While they're at it throw the f*ckn scale away.

S/he is a public defender.  if I were arrested and assigned that ... defender, I would tell the judge I'll be defending myself.

What a sh!t show our country's institutions have become.
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Political Discussion / Re: When you lose touch you can't relate.
« on: April 08, 2024, 06:47:29 PM »
We are a Constitutional Federal Republic, not a Democratic Republic.

And technically the US is considered an imperialistic power, particularly under the ideologies of Neo/New Imperialism and American Imperialism. So while not technically meeting the definition of an empire nation state, it is still considered a global political empire

Are you sure about that?

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/10/1122089076/is-america-a-democracy-or-a-republic-yes-it-is

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So, what kind of government is the United States?

America is considered a republic democracy or, more usually, a democratic republic.
https://constitutionus.com/democracy/what-type-of-government-does-the-us-have/

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In short, the US is a Constitutional Federal Republic, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t also a type of democracy.

So is the US a Democracy or Republic? The answer is, “it is both….
https://factmyth.com/factoids/the-united-states-of-america-is-a-democracy/

i think the first part of your statement is accurate, but to say the US is "not a Democratic Republic" is incorrect.  Being a collective of independent states makes things more complicated than a true Federal Republic.

Also, the correct definition for empire refers to nations/states/countries/territories/etc. being ruled under one authority.  You are using it in the figurative sense.

Saying a particular entrepreneur built an empire in the recording industry, auto manufacturing, telecommunications, or whatever else is also a common figurative use of the term, but it is not literal. 

i think anytime you add a qualifier to "empire", you are implying it doesn't have the same meaning as the standalone literal term -- i.e. global political empire is not the same as a literal empire: "A political unit having an extensive territory or comprising a number of territories or nations and ruled by a single supreme authority."

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General Discussion / Re: Outrageous! Banning Ammo For Adults Under 21?
« on: April 08, 2024, 06:31:22 PM »
Actually NRA was created to teach slaves how to shoot.
All the rest of us already knew how.
 :geekdanc:

Slaves?  Or former slaves?

Not sure you have your facts straight.
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Off Topic / Oh, Sweet Meteor of Death -- Take Me Now!
« on: April 08, 2024, 03:22:03 PM »
If you want to get away with pretty much anything you want, this is one way to do it in these crazy times.


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General Discussion / Re: Outrageous! Banning Ammo For Adults Under 21?
« on: April 08, 2024, 12:47:30 PM »
I grew up in Western Pa. a long time ago. Saved my paper route money and bought a Remington Nylon .22 Every weekend I would spend my .75 cent tip money for a box of .22 long rifle. Cleaning supplies....Singer sewing machine oil(borrowed from Mum) Coat hanger with a tip made from lead. Only my opinion but my experience gave me a big advantage when Uncle sent me to a place where I needed a firearm. Training helps,but experience can save your ass! :shaka:

You just demonstrated the whole reason the NRA was created.  Training civilians in a time of peace so they had firearm skills and experience should they ever need to fight for the country was their primary purpose.

Too bad the NRA doesn't sponsor "range packages" so people can more easily afford to get professional training at their local range.

i'd like to see them offer a $10-$20 package to include ammo, a rental firearm, firing range access, and an instructor.  It should also include a safety class that satisfies the individual's state training requirements if any, and a certificate of training if they pass a proficiency test.

Seems the main thing the NRA does is beg for money -- over and over again.  Unless one pays for an NRA-certified course, those dues offer no benefit toward training.
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Political Discussion / Re: Distorted reality.
« on: April 08, 2024, 12:36:13 PM »
Not to worry, DC Police are on top of guns being in the hands of criminals:



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Political Discussion / Re: When you lose touch you can't relate.
« on: April 08, 2024, 10:18:05 AM »


Swoosh...   :geekdanc:

The slogan Don't Tread on Me is a warning, not a statement of current conditions.

Just saying.
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