Ukraine vs. Russia (Read 101666 times)

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1020 on: May 14, 2022, 09:12:00 AM »
Flooded the university system with thousands of spies, set up honeytraps on elected officials, stole a bunch of intellectual property, sabotaged our food supply, and rigged our last election with their voting machines. What else do you want?
Fine.

So, what do you suggest?  Attack China and have a nuclear war?



Any one of those could be considered enemy action, but our political class sold out to them long ago so the only way we're going to be able to deal with them effectively is to drain the swamp.
If this is true, why are the forward operating bases in Japan, South Korea, Okinawa, and Guam that surround China still there?  Surely, the Chinese puppet government in the US would not let this happen.

Furthermore, if Beijing controls the US imperial government, why is NATO trying to expand into Asia, US empire selling weapons to Taiwan, and the establishing of the AUKUS military alliance with the sole purpose of attacking China?

Something does not add up here...

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1021 on: May 14, 2022, 10:42:37 AM »
China is smarter than Russia. They took over some of the US without using any military force (invasion/war).

Look at all the athletes and celebrities who back china over the US as an example.

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hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1022 on: May 14, 2022, 11:02:29 AM »
China is smarter than Russia. They took over some of the US without using any military force (invasion/war).

Look at all the athletes and celebrities who back china over the US as an example.

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Russia doesn't want to take over the United States. We should have allied with them to defeat China but thanks to Clinton Cult and the RINOS we blew that opportunity and are now at the mercy of the Red Menace

The only thing that fixes this is draining the swamp. We have to push out the RINOS and dismantle the Democratic party as a national organization.
“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

robtmc

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1023 on: May 14, 2022, 11:45:02 AM »
Russia doesn't want to take over the United States. We should have allied with them to defeat China but thanks to Clinton Cult and the RINOS we blew that opportunity and are now at the mercy of the Red Menace
Have believed this for decades.  Since the collapse of the communist regime, it has become more obvious all the time.  The USA and Russia have much in common.  More than with many euro countries IMO.

The North Vietnamese were said to have noticed how the Soviet advisors were very like Americans: large, loud, and boisterous.

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1024 on: May 14, 2022, 11:50:08 AM »
Perpetrators of atrocities in Ukraine from a British mercenary's point-of-view.


groveler

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1025 on: May 14, 2022, 12:11:25 PM »
Perpetrators of atrocities in Ukraine from a British mercenary's point-of-view.



Didn't sound very British to me.
French?  SUD is a French radio station.
Story was very plausible.
I'm very sure the Russians are not any better.
 :wacko:

QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1026 on: May 14, 2022, 08:31:07 PM »
Something doesn't smell right with this Ukraine/Russia conflict.

The smell started once the US got more involved and committed.

It got outright nauseous when pelosi visited and now recently McConnell and his goons.

I think Rand Paul smells it too.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

ren

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1027 on: May 14, 2022, 08:38:37 PM »
one thing for sure...it appears that we are the only one sending a lot of our $$$ did we send them baby formula too?
Deeds Not Words

QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1028 on: May 14, 2022, 09:21:34 PM »
one thing for sure...it appears that we are the only one sending a lot of our $$$ did we send them baby formula too?

Wouldn't surprise me one bit.  Maybe that's why we don't have any formula here back home.

Anyway I've mentioned it before but this conflict is right in the back yard of Germany, France, and Poland yet it doesn't seem that these countries are doing as much as the US is doing.

Kinda reminds me of the tightwads at the dinner table making gestures of reaching for their wallets to help pay the check until one generous person takes the check and say's it's on me.

Lotta gestures but no action.

And in my opinion the US is not doing this for freedom, democracy, and the plight of the poor citizens of Ukraine.  No way, Jose.  That BS is for the people who believe the MSM.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

groveler

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1029 on: May 14, 2022, 10:01:17 PM »
Wouldn't surprise me one bit.  Maybe that's why we don't have any formula here back home.

Anyway I've mentioned it before but this conflict is right in the back yard of Germany, France, and Poland yet it doesn't seem that these countries are doing as much as the US is doing.

Kinda reminds me of the tightwads at the dinner table making gestures of reaching for their wallets to help pay the check until one generous person takes the check and say's it's on me.

Lotta gestures but no action.

And in my opinion the US is not doing this for freedom, democracy, and the plight of the poor citizens of Ukraine.  No way, Jose.  That BS is for the people who believe the MSM.
"And in my opinion the US is not doing this for freedom, democracy, and the plight of the poor citizens of Ukraine.  No way, Jose."
I agree with you.
Someone noticed a weakness in the Russian system and is now using Ukraine to grind them down.
Make no doubt this is a civil war.
I don't want to support it.
Nor do I want to see the Russians do a Holodomor again.
Question is which Democrats are driving this craziness?
And why?
Money doesn't do much good once the Nukes are released.
And that could very well happen.
I won't miss the USA Democrats, the Moscow tyrants, and the Chinese Han Emperors.
so what is the end game?
 :wtf:





hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1030 on: May 15, 2022, 12:39:31 AM »
so what is the end game?
 :wtf:

You don't have to guess. They've been talking about it wide out in the open for a while now. Their goal is to tear down our constitutional republic and replace it with technocratic communist world government. War with Russia is an excuse to crash our economy and make things so bad that we will beg them to implement their "solutions". The cities will become prisons where the hyper-inflated dollar will be replaced by state controlled cryptocurrency and tied to your social credit score so that if you misbehave they can turn off your life with the flick of a switch. People will still live outside the system because there won't be enough resources to project police power everywhere, but the price of access to modern technology will be your freedom.



If you don't believe me look up how the CCP-controlled World Health Organization (that refuses to recognize Taiwan) is currently trying to strip 194 countries of their sovereignty. They can override constitutional law for "health emergencies" like climate, racism, gun violence, etc. That vote is coming up on May 22 and gets implemented in November, so no matter who wins the election the WHO will be in charge of the former United States of America.

https://rumble.com/v14mawj-the-who-pandemic-treaty-what-it-really-means....html

The real danger is that, like all communists, these people are excellent at infiltration and tearing things apart but are clueless about how to run an effective government and will end up filling a bunch of mass graves just like all the other times communism has been tried.
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“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

QUIETShooter

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1031 on: May 15, 2022, 04:50:21 AM »
You don't have to guess. They've been talking about it wide out in the open for a while now. Their goal is to tear down our constitutional republic and replace it with technocratic communist world government. War with Russia is an excuse to crash our economy and make things so bad that we will beg them to implement their "solutions". The cities will become prisons where the hyper-inflated dollar will be replaced by state controlled cryptocurrency and tied to your social credit score so that if you misbehave they can turn off your life with the flick of a switch. People will still live outside the system because there won't be enough resources to project police power everywhere, but the price of access to modern technology will be your freedom.



If you don't believe me look up how the CCP-controlled World Health Organization (that refuses to recognize Taiwan) is currently trying to strip 194 countries of their sovereignty. They can override constitutional law for "health emergencies" like climate, racism, gun violence, etc. That vote is coming up on May 22 and gets implemented in November, so no matter who wins the election the WHO will be in charge of the former United States of America.

https://rumble.com/v14mawj-the-who-pandemic-treaty-what-it-really-means....html

The real danger is that, like all communists, these people are excellent at infiltration and tearing things apart but are clueless about how to run an effective government and will end up filling a bunch of mass graves just like all the other times communism has been tried.

Sure seems like we're headed that way. 

I feel for my grandchildren.  Maybe I'm becoming a bit paranoid (or delusional?) but I think that somehow they are slowly but surely becoming indoctrinated to this new world order through our school systems.

With all of these current events happening I keep thinking of the movie "Hunger Games" and it's sequels.  The way the cities and the people who live in them kinda reminds me of the direction we currently are headed with our large cities.

Except the cities will cast out the "have nots" into the rural areas and the cities will become inhabited by the social elitists.


And the rural areas will have two types of people:  Those who refused to live under the rule of a tyrannical government and those who couldn't or wouldn't think for themselves and therefore were cast away like sheep who have exhausted their usefulness.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Rocky

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1032 on: May 15, 2022, 07:36:59 AM »
so what is the end game?
THE TENPOINT PLAN OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER
Or
HOW TO PREPARE THE WAY OF THE ANTICHRIST
THE STRATEGY: The 10 point charter of Alice Bailey adopted by the U.N.
THE PURPOSE: To change Judeo/Christian tradition or to redeem the nations from Judeo/Christian tradition.

Abridged version

    TAKE GOD AND PRAYER OUT OF THE EDUCATION SYSTEM
    REDUCE PARENTAL AUTHORITY OVER THE CHILDREN
    DESTROY THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN FAMILY STRUCTURE OR THE TRADITIONAL CHRISTIAN FAMILY STRUCTURE
    IF SEX IS FREE, THEN MAKE ABORTION LEGAL AND MAKE IT EASY
    MAKE DIVORCE EASY AND LEGAL, FREE PEOPLE FROM THE CONCEPT OF MARRIAGE FOR LIFE
    MAKE HOMOSEXUALITY AN ALTERNATIVE LIFESTYLE
    DEBASE ART, MAKE IT RUN MAD
    USE MEDIA TO PROMOTE AND CHANGE MINDSETS
    CREATE AN INTERFAITH MOVEMENT
    GET GOVERNMENTS TO MAKE ALL THESE LAW AND GET THE CHURCH TO ENDORSE THESE CHANGES.


1. TAKE GOD AND PRAYER OUT OF THE EDUCATION SYSTEM
She said: “Change curriculum to ensure that children are freed from the bondage of Christian culture. Why? Because children go to school to be equipped to face life, they are willing to trust and they are willing to value what is being given to them.”
“If you take God out of education, they will unconsciously form a resolve that God is not necessary to face life. They will focus on those things the school counts them worthy to be passed on and they will look at God as an additional, if one can afford the additional.”
NOTE: Today they introduce Transcendental Meditation (TM) in schools which takes children to altered states of consciousness to meet with demons (spirit guides) = New Age

2. REDUCE PARENTAL AUTHORITY OVER THE CHILDREN
She said: “Break the communication between parent and child.”
(Why?)
So that parents do not pass on their Christian traditions to their children, liberate children from the bondage of their parent traditions.
(how?)
a) Promote excessive child rights; (1997-1998 South Africa introduced Child rights legislation – UNICEF Charter; Today a child is able to say to parent ‘I do not want to hear that, I don’t want to do what you are telling me. Teachers cannot talk to children, children step up and say I have my rights, you cannot talk to me like that).
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b) Abolish corporal punishment; (this has been made law). On the other hand the Bible says ‘Do not withhold correction from a child, for if you beat him with a rod, he will not die. You shall beat him with a rod and deliver his soul from hell.’ (Proverbs 23: 13-14)
NOTE: Jesus said in the last days – wickedness will increase, there will be rebellion and children will not obey their parents. It is not a trend-it is organized.
c) Teachers are the agents of implementation – from workshops, teachers tell children ‘your parent has no right to force you to pray or read the Bible, you are yourself, have a right of your own, you need to discover yourself, self expression, self realization, self fulfillment are all buzz words.
NOTE: In the West when the child is 7 yrs, the teachers begin to say to the child ‘you have a right to choose whether you want to follow the faith of your parents or not, parents are not allowed to enforce their faith upon you.’ Question is, what type of decision can a 7 year old make?

3. DESTROY THE JUDEO-CHRISTIAN FAMILY STRUCTURE OR THE TRADITIONAL CHRISTIAN FAMILY STRUCTURE (Why?)
She said: “It is oppressive and that the family is the core of the nation. If you break the family, you break the nation. Liberate the people from the confines of this structure.”
(How?)
a) Promote sexual promiscuity – free young people to the concept of premarital sex, let them have free sex, lift it so high that the joy of enjoying it (sex) is the highest joy in life, fantasize it, that everybody will feel proud to be seen to be sexually active, even those outside of marriage.
NOTE: This is contrary to the word of God which says “… But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints… for this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.” (Ephesians 5: 3-5)
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b) Use advertising industry, media – T.V., magazines, film industry to promote sexual enjoyment as the highest pleasure in humanity. (Propaganda)
Have they succeeded? Have they done it? If you want to see whether they have succeeded or not, go to the advertising industry, it does everything to catch your attention and today almost no advert comes out without a sexual connotation. Even when they advertise ice cream, they must show you a thigh of a woman and a bikini, they must do something to set off a trail of thoughts. They will show you more thighs than ice cream. Why? Because, that is what must be in the minds of the people.
NOTE: The advertising industry is a multi-billion dollar machine that shapes and controls ideas and culture with it’s propaganda from the NWO.

4. IF SEX IS FREE, THEN MAKE ABORTION LEGAL AND MAKE IT EASY
She said: “Build clinics for abortion – Health clinics in schools. If people are going to enjoy the joy of sexual relationships, they need to be free of unnecessary fears, in other words they should not be hampered with unwanted pregnancies.”
‘Abortion as told by Christians is oppressive and denies our rights, we have a right to choose whether we want to have a child or not. If a woman does not want the pregnancy, she should have the freedom to get rid of that pregnancy painless and as easy as possible’.
NOTE: Today abortion is not only accessible but many times it may be forced. It is a strategy to curb population control together with the use of condoms and ‘pill’. (Eugenics)

5. MAKE DIVORCE EASY AND LEGAL, FREE PEOPLE FROM THE CONCEPT OF MARRIAGE FOR LIFE.
Alice wrote 50 years ago that love has got a mysterious link called the love bond. It is like an ovum that comes out of the ovary, as it travels through your system, it clicks a love favor in you and there’s one other person in the world who can respond to that love bond, when you see that person, everything within you clicks, that is your man/woman, if
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you miss him, you’ll never be happy until that love bond cycles past, for many years, so for you to be happy get that person at whatever cost, if it means getting him/her out of that marriage, get him/her that is your man/woman. It’s a mistake for him/her to be elsewhere. And if you go together for sometime and find that love has died, don’t be held in bondage by the Christian values it will never come back, what you need is an easily arranged divorce and allow another love bond to come forth, just like an ovum comes up, and when it comes forth you’ll enjoy life again.
NOTE: On the contrary God’s word says in Malachi 2: 16; “For the Lord God of Israel says that He hates divorce…” People enter into marriage having signed contracts of how they will share their things after divorce. People enter with one foot and another behind. 50 years ago divorce was unthinkable. It is one thing for a marriage to fail but it is another thing for people to enter marriage with an intention to enjoy as long as it was enjoyable and to walk out of it.

6. MAKE HOMOSEXUALITY AN ALTERNATIVE LIFESTYLE
Alice Bailey preached that sexual enjoyment is the highest pleasure in humanity, no one must be denied and no one must be restricted how to enjoy themselves. People should be allowed in which ever way they chose they want, whether it is homosexuality or in incest or bestiality, as long as the two agree.
NOTE: Many nations around the world are passing laws that legalize homosexual and gay marriage. It is now classified as “hate speech” and becoming illegal for ministers of 501c3 organizations to mention homosexuality as an abomination in the eyes of God, or to read scriptures publicly that talk about homosexuality. Today the church is expected to marry gays/lesbians. According to the Bible, this is an abomination before the eyes of God. (Leviticus 18:22; 20:13)

7. DEBASE ART, MAKE IT RUN MAD
Alice Bailey understood that the arts are one of the primary keys to change culture.
How?
Promote new forms of art which will corrupt and defile the imagination of people because art is the language of the spirit, that which is inside, you can bring out in painting, music, drama etc. Look at the quality, spirituality and message of the art, music and the films that are coming out.
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8. USE MEDIA TO PROMOTE AND CHANGE MINDSET
Alice Bailey said the greatest channel you need to use to change human attitude is media. Use the press, the radio, T.V, cinema. You can tell today how successful they have been in implementing the plan over the last 50 years via media as well as advertising agencies, billboards, magazines.
Who controls media?
(NWO); So much money is pumped into media and advertising and the spreading of violence, pornographic material and other sources. Sex outside of marriage is thrown on your face 80-90 times more than sex in marriage. Promiscuity is being promoted as natural, you watch gay sex on T.V. in homes where children’s minds are being neutralized to sensitivity to these things. You wonder why newspapers, T.V, etc do not record anything about Christian activities.
BACKGROUND ON THE POWER OF TV
Most kids plug into the world of television long before they enter school. According to the Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF):
two-thirds of infants and toddlers watch a screen an average of 2 hours a day
 kids under age 6 watch an average of about 2 hours of screen media a day, primarily TV and videos or DVDs
 kids and teens 8 to 18 years spend nearly 4 hours a day in front of a TV screen and almost 2 additional hours on the computer (outside of schoolwork) and playing video games
 Television Statistics: According to the A.C. Nielsen Co., the average American watches more than 4 hours of TV each day (or 28 hours/week, or 2 months of nonstop TV-watching per year). In a 65-year life, that person will have spent 9 years glued to the tube or almost 15% of their life.
Norman Herr, PH.D, professor of Science Education at California State University at Northridge has found these statistics in 1995:
I. FAMILY LIFE
 Percentage of households that possess at least one television: 99%
 Number of TV sets in the average U.S. household: 2.24
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 Percentage of U.S. homes with three or more TV sets: 66%
 Number of hours per day that TV is on in an average U.S. home: 6 hours, 47 minutes
 Percentage of Americans that regularly watch television while eating dinner: 66%
 Number of hours of TV watched annually by Americans: 250 billion
 Value of that time assuming an average wage of $5/hour: S1.25 trillion
 Percentage of Americans who pay for cable TV: 56 %
 Number of videos rented daily in the U.S.: 6 million
 Number of public library items checked out daily: 3 million
 Percentage of Americans who say they watch too much TV: 49%
II. CHILDREN
 Approximate number of studies examining TV's effects on children: 4,000
 Number of minutes per week that parents spend in meaningful conversation with their children: 3.5 min.
 Number of minutes per week that the average child watches television: 1,680 min. or 28 hours.
 Percentage of day care centers that use TV during a typical day: 70 %
 Percentage of parents who would like to limit their children's TV watching: 73 %
 Percentage of 4-6 year-olds who, when asked to choose between watching TV and spending time with their fathers, preferred television: 54 %
 Hours per year the average American youth spends in school: 900 hours
 Hours per year the average American youth watches television: 1500
 A 1991 study showed that there were an average of 200 junk food ads in four hours of children's Saturday morning cartoons.
III. VIOLENCE
 Number of murders seen on TV by the time an average child finishes elementary school (11 yrs): 8,000
 Number of violent acts seen on TV by age 18: 200,000
 Percentage of Americans who believe TV violence helps precipitate real life mayhem: 79 %
IV. COMMERCIALISM
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 Number of 30-second TV commercials seen in a year by an average child: 20,000 = 10,000 minutes or 166 hours and 35 minutes
 Number of TV commercials seen by the average person by age 65: 2 million + 1 million minutes or 16,666 hours or 1,389 days (12 hours) which is 3.8 years of the average American’s life is spent watching TV commercials by 65 years of age. Or about 3.5% of your life is watching commercials!
 Percentage of survey participants (1993) who said that TV commercials aimed at children make them too materialistic: 92 %
 Rank of food products/fast-food restaurants among TV advertisements to kids: 1
 Total spending by 100 leading TV advertisers in 1993: $15 billion
V. GENERAL
 Percentage of local TV news broadcast time devoted to advertising: 30 %
 Percentage devoted to stories about crime, disaster and war: 53.8 %
 Percentage devoted to public service announcements: 0.7 %
 Percentage of Americans who can name The Three Stooges: 59 %
 Percentage who can name at least three justices of the U.S. Supreme Court: 15 %

9. CREATE AN INTERFAITH MOVEMENT
Alice Bailey wrote: “Promote other faiths to be at par with Christianity, and break this thing about Christianity as being the only way to heaven, by that Christianity will be pulled down and other faiths promoted.”
She said, “promote the importance of man in determining his own future and destiny” – HUMANISM. “Tell man he has the right to choose what he wants to be and he can make it happen, he has the right to determine his cause.”

10. GET GOVERNMENTS TO MAKE ALL THESE LAW AND GET THE CHURCH TO ENDORSE THESE CHANGES.
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“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

Rocky

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1033 on: May 15, 2022, 07:37:17 AM »
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Alice Bailey wrote: “...that the church must change its doctrine and accommodate the people by accepting these things and put them into its structures and systems.”
Have they succeeded?
Today you wonder why our governments are legislating laws contrary to the Bible and why the church is compromising the Word of God. It is a process of implementing This 10 Point Plan - A 50 year strategy of the NWO to fulfill its ultimate goal to establish a One World Government, a One World Economic system and a One World Religion. Today the strategy almost in its entirety has been adopted by the United Nations and today a lot of it is already law in many nations. This deception has crept up by increments, unobserved by most people.
It can best be demonstrated through the well-known analogy of the frog in the pot of water. If you put a frog in a pot of boiling water, it is smart enough to know that it is in terrible danger and will immediately jump out to safety. But if you turn up the heat very slowly, a little at a time, it doesn’t notice the changes that are taking place and will slowly cook to death. Many people today are slowly cooking to death and don’t seem to realize how far they have come from where they once were.
NOTE: Today the Western World is not struggling to resist these because the NWO and the New Age Movement focused primarily on the West because that was the Christian world in the 19th century. The New Age Movement has a school called the Akanni School, which is the school of all the leaders of the Western world. They subscribe to it. It is recorded that they say they have succeeded the task in the West but suddenly they realize Christianity has migrated to the rest of the world, so they have now to use every resource in the West to deal with the rest of the world.
It is interesting to note that Blavatsky, Besant and Alice Bailey were well known Masonic leaders of the day. Albert Pike referred to Freemasonry as the ‘custodian’ or special guardian of these occult secrets and revealed the hidden agenda of his institution, the forming of a Luciferic One World Government.
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BACKGROUND ON HOW THE TEACHINGS OF ALICE BAILEY ARE FOUNDATIONAL TO THE UNITED NATIONS
"Dr. Robert Muller, former Assistant Secretary General of the United Nations. and Chancellor of the United Nations' University For Peace, is the Chairperson of Peace Party 2000."
Peace Party’s Homepage on the Internet
"Decide to open your self to God , the universe, to all your brethren and sisters, to your inner self...to the potential of the human race, to the infinity of your inner self, and you will become the universe...you will become infinity, and you will be at long last your real, divine, stupendous self."
Robert Muller, “Decide to Be-Link-up”; p.2
Philosophy of the Robert Muller School
"The underlying philosophy upon which the Robert Muller School is based will be found in the teachings set forth in the books of Alice A. Baily. The school is now certified as a United Nations Associated School Associated School providing education for international cooperation and peace."
Muller, R. “World Core Curriculum”. Preface
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What is the Robert Muller School?
The Robert Muller School is the education program that will be enforced by the United Nations. This means that soon your kids will be learning from the same books of Alice A. Bailey or at least the 10 point plan of Alice Baily will be put forth in a the schools.
Foster & Alice A Bailey:
Alice Ann Bailey, often known as Alice A. Bailey or AAB (16 June 1880 Manchester, England - 15 December 1949), writer and lecturer on Neo-Theosophy, was born in England in 1880 as Alice LaTrobe Bateman. She moved to America in 1907 where she spent the rest of her life. She was the High Priestess and prophetess of the New Age movement. She was a prolific author on occultism and founded an international esoteric movement. Sir John Sinclair [32 Degree Mason], Bt., gives a commentary on the seminal influence of Alice Bailey, which he says underlies the consciousness growth movement in the 20th century.
NOTE: Alice Bailey founded the publishing company called Lucifer Trust and it was later changed to Lucis Trust. Address for Lucis Trust is: 120 Wall Street, 24th Floor, New York NY 10005, USA
Foster and Alice Bailey: They started a group called 'World Goodwill' which is an official Non-Government Organization within the United Nations. The stated aim of this group is "to cooperate in the world of preparation for the reappearance of the Christ"
(One Earth, the magazine of the Findhorn Foundation, October/November 1986, Vol. 6, Issue 6, p. 24.)
"Forgetting the things that lie behind, I will strive towards my higher spiritual possibilities. I dedicate myself anew to the service of the Coming One and will

11 do all I can to prepare men's minds and hearts for that event. I have no other life intention."
Bailey, A.A. Discipleship in the New Age. Vol. 11. New York: Lucis Trust. p. 226.
NOTE: Alice Bailey wants a unified religion! And which Christ is she preparing for? Not Jesus! The cosmic Christ or Lucifer.
Alice Bailey, claimed:
"Evidence of the growth of the human intellect along the needed receptive lines [for the preparation of the New Age] can be seen in the "planning" of various nations and in the efforts of the United Nations to formulate a world plan.. From the very start of this unfolding, three occult factors have governed the development of all these plans".
Alice Bailey, Discipleship in the New Age (Lucis Press, 1955), Vol.11, p. 35.
NOTE: She is not going to tell us exactly what these three occult factors are but she states:
" Within the United Nations is the germ and seed of a great international and meditating , reflective group - a group of thinking and informed men and women in whose hands lies the destiny of humanity. This is largely under the control of many fourth ray disciples, if you could but realize it, and their point of meditative focus is the intuitional or buddhic plane - the plane upon which all hierarchical activity is today to be found".
[Ibid., p. 220.]
NOTE: What is she trying to tell us? That the inner core of the United Nations is ran by people that are under the control of Lucifer.
Alice Bailey received messages from Djwhal Khul
NOTE: This is Lucifer speaking through Alice Bailey
Suffice to say that I am a Tibetan of a certain degree, and this tell you but little, for all are disciples from the humblest aspirant up to, and beyond, the Christ himself... Those associated with me in the work of the Hierarchy... Know me by still another

12 name and office. A.A.B. (Alice A. Bailey) Knows who I am and recognizes me by two of my names.
I am a brother of yours who has traveled a little longer on the Path than has the average student, and has therefore incurred greater responsibilities...I must therefore act as transmitter of light, no matter what the cost...My work is to teach and spread the knowledge of the Ageless Wisdom wherever I can find a response...
(Published August 1934)
"The Tibetan has asked me to make clear that when he is speaking of the Christ he is referring to His official name as head of the hierarchy. The Christ works for all men irrespective of their faith; He does not belong to the Christian world any more than to the Buddhist or Mohammedan or any other faith. There is no need for any man to join the Christian church in order to be affiliated with Christ. The requirements are to love your fellowmen, lead a disciplined life, recognise the divinity in all faiths and all beings and rule your daily life with love."
Bailey. A.A. The Externalisation of the Hierarchy. New York: Lucis Trust. p. 558.
NOTE: As you can see their Christ is Lucifer. Need more proof, read on.
Where did Alice A. Bailey get her teachings?
Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, founder of the Theosophical Society"... Madame Blavatsky ... stands out as the fountainhead of modern occult thought, and was either the originator and/or popularized many of the ideas and terms which have a century later been assembled within the New Age Movement. The Theosophical Society, which she cofounded, has been the major advocate of occult philosophy in the West and the single most important avenue of Eastern teaching to the West."
Gordon Melton, Jerome Clark and Aidan A. Kelly, editors, New Age Almanac, Detroit, Michigan, Gale Research Inc., 1991, p. 16.

13 Quotes from her books:
"Lucifer represents.. Life.. Thought.. Progress.. Civilization.. Liberty.. Independence.. Lucifer is the Logos..the Serpent, the Savior."
The Secret Doctrine' by Helen Petrovna Blavatsky on pages 171, 225, 255, (Vol. 11)
"It is Satan who is God of our planet and the only God."
pages 215, 216, 220, 245, 255, 233, (VI)
"The Celestial Virgin which thus becomes the Mother of Gods and Devils at one and the same time; for she is the ever-loving beneficent Deity...but in antiquity and reality Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is divine and terrestial Light, 'the Holy Ghost' and "Satan' at one and the same time."
page 539
Why does Alice Bailey want a one world order?
" first of all, he will come to a world which is essentially one world."
Bailey, A.A. The Reappearance of the Christ. New York: Lucis Trust. p. 15.
"The major effect of his appearance will surely be to demonstrate in every land the effects of a spirit of inclusiveness - an inclusiveness which will be channeled or expressed through him. All who seek right human relations will be gathered automatically to him, whether they are in one of the great religions or not; all who see no true or basic difference between religion and religion or between man and man or nation and nation will rally around him; those who embody the spirit of exclusiveness and separateness will stand automatically and equally revealed and all men will know them for what they are."
Bailey, A.A. The Reappearance of the Christ. New York: Lucis Trust. p. 15.
NOTE: I do have the spirit of exclusiveness and they know what I am, I am a follower of Jesus Christ. There is a difference between religions, one has the truth and is free and the other one's are stuck in Babylon as slaves to Lucifer.

14  When will Lucifer come?
"The reply comes with clarity; he will come unfailingly when a measure of peace has been restored..."
Bailey. A.A. The Externalisation of the Hierarchy. New York: Lucis Trust. p. 616.
" The major required preparation [for the coming of the 'Christ'] is a world at peace; however, that peace must be based on an educated goodwill, which will lead inevitably to right human relations, and therefore to the establishment of lines of light between nations and nation, religion and religion, group and group and man and man."
Bailey. A.A. The Externalisation of the Hierarchy. New York: Lucis Trust. p. 611.
What does the present priest of the UN have to say?
"The United Nations is the way, the way to oneness, that leads to the Supreme Oneness. It is like a river flowing towards the source, the Ultimate Source."
The United Nations becomes for us the answer to world suffering, world darkness and world ignorance. The inner vision of the United Nations is gift supreme. This vision the world can deny for 10,20,30,40,100 years.
" in the sphere of international relations.. a sense of greater or shared responsibility is particularly needed. Today, when the world is becoming increasingly interdependent, the dangers of irresponsible behavior have dramatically increased. Unless we realize that now we are part of one big, human family, we cannot hope to bring about peace and happiness."
--The Dalal Lama, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize
What is the New Age Agenda?

15  1. Merge God and Nature (ecology)
2. Eugenics
3. Eradicate male-female distinction (androgyny)
4. World peace and nuclear disarmament
5. One world economic & financial system
6. One world government
7. One world religion
Organizations leading the way towards global government.
1. The United Nations
2. The Council on Foreign Relations
3. The Trilateral Commission
4. The Bilderbergers Group
5. The Gorbachev Foundation
6. The Club of Rome
How do you lead the world to unite and bring religions together?
Education
"The world will not change and find peace if there is not a new education."
--U Thant former Secretary-General of the United Nations, a teacher http://www.unol.or
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

groveler

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1034 on: May 15, 2022, 08:34:40 AM »
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Alice Bailey wrote: “...that the church must change its doctrine and accommodate the people by accepting these things and put them into its structures and systems.”
Have they succeeded?
Today you wonder why our governments are legislating laws contrary to the Bible and why the church is compromising the Word of God. It is a process of implementing This 10 Point Plan - A 50 year strategy of the NWO to fulfill its ultimate goal to establish a One World Government, a One World Economic system and a One World Religion. Today the strategy almost in its entirety has been adopted by the United Nations and today a lot of it is already law in many nations. This deception has crept up by increments, unobserved by most people.
It can best be demonstrated through the well-known analogy of the frog in the pot of water. If you put a frog in a pot of boiling water, it is smart enough to know that it is in terrible danger and will immediately jump out to safety. But if you turn up the heat very slowly, a little at a time, it doesn’t notice the changes that are taking place and will slowly cook to death. Many people today are slowly cooking to death and don’t seem to realize how far they have come from where they once were.
NOTE: Today the Western World is not struggling to resist these because the NWO and the New Age Movement focused primarily on the West because that was the Christian world in the 19th century. The New Age Movement has a school called the Akanni School, which is the school of all the leaders of the Western world. They subscribe to it. It is recorded that they say they have succeeded the task in the West but suddenly they realize Christianity has migrated to the rest of the world, so they have now to use every resource in the West to deal with the rest of the world.
It is interesting to note that Blavatsky, Besant and Alice Bailey were well known Masonic leaders of the day. Albert Pike referred to Freemasonry as the ‘custodian’ or special guardian of these occult secrets and revealed the hidden agenda of his institution, the forming of a Luciferic One World Government.
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BACKGROUND ON HOW THE TEACHINGS OF ALICE BAILEY ARE FOUNDATIONAL TO THE UNITED NATIONS
"Dr. Robert Muller, former Assistant Secretary General of the United Nations. and Chancellor of the United Nations' University For Peace, is the Chairperson of Peace Party 2000."
Peace Party’s Homepage on the Internet
"Decide to open your self to God , the universe, to all your brethren and sisters, to your inner self...to the potential of the human race, to the infinity of your inner self, and you will become the universe...you will become infinity, and you will be at long last your real, divine, stupendous self."
Robert Muller, “Decide to Be-Link-up”; p.2
Philosophy of the Robert Muller School
"The underlying philosophy upon which the Robert Muller School is based will be found in the teachings set forth in the books of Alice A. Baily. The school is now certified as a United Nations Associated School Associated School providing education for international cooperation and peace."
Muller, R. “World Core Curriculum”. Preface
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What is the Robert Muller School?
The Robert Muller School is the education program that will be enforced by the United Nations. This means that soon your kids will be learning from the same books of Alice A. Bailey or at least the 10 point plan of Alice Baily will be put forth in a the schools.
Foster & Alice A Bailey:
Alice Ann Bailey, often known as Alice A. Bailey or AAB (16 June 1880 Manchester, England - 15 December 1949), writer and lecturer on Neo-Theosophy, was born in England in 1880 as Alice LaTrobe Bateman. She moved to America in 1907 where she spent the rest of her life. She was the High Priestess and prophetess of the New Age movement. She was a prolific author on occultism and founded an international esoteric movement. Sir John Sinclair [32 Degree Mason], Bt., gives a commentary on the seminal influence of Alice Bailey, which he says underlies the consciousness growth movement in the 20th century.
NOTE: Alice Bailey founded the publishing company called Lucifer Trust and it was later changed to Lucis Trust. Address for Lucis Trust is: 120 Wall Street, 24th Floor, New York NY 10005, USA
Foster and Alice Bailey: They started a group called 'World Goodwill' which is an official Non-Government Organization within the United Nations. The stated aim of this group is "to cooperate in the world of preparation for the reappearance of the Christ"
(One Earth, the magazine of the Findhorn Foundation, October/November 1986, Vol. 6, Issue 6, p. 24.)
"Forgetting the things that lie behind, I will strive towards my higher spiritual possibilities. I dedicate myself anew to the service of the Coming One and will

11 do all I can to prepare men's minds and hearts for that event. I have no other life intention."
Bailey, A.A. Discipleship in the New Age. Vol. 11. New York: Lucis Trust. p. 226.
NOTE: Alice Bailey wants a unified religion! And which Christ is she preparing for? Not Jesus! The cosmic Christ or Lucifer.
Alice Bailey, claimed:
"Evidence of the growth of the human intellect along the needed receptive lines [for the preparation of the New Age] can be seen in the "planning" of various nations and in the efforts of the United Nations to formulate a world plan.. From the very start of this unfolding, three occult factors have governed the development of all these plans".
Alice Bailey, Discipleship in the New Age (Lucis Press, 1955), Vol.11, p. 35.
NOTE: She is not going to tell us exactly what these three occult factors are but she states:
" Within the United Nations is the germ and seed of a great international and meditating , reflective group - a group of thinking and informed men and women in whose hands lies the destiny of humanity. This is largely under the control of many fourth ray disciples, if you could but realize it, and their point of meditative focus is the intuitional or buddhic plane - the plane upon which all hierarchical activity is today to be found".
[Ibid., p. 220.]
NOTE: What is she trying to tell us? That the inner core of the United Nations is ran by people that are under the control of Lucifer.
Alice Bailey received messages from Djwhal Khul
NOTE: This is Lucifer speaking through Alice Bailey
Suffice to say that I am a Tibetan of a certain degree, and this tell you but little, for all are disciples from the humblest aspirant up to, and beyond, the Christ himself... Those associated with me in the work of the Hierarchy... Know me by still another

12 name and office. A.A.B. (Alice A. Bailey) Knows who I am and recognizes me by two of my names.
I am a brother of yours who has traveled a little longer on the Path than has the average student, and has therefore incurred greater responsibilities...I must therefore act as transmitter of light, no matter what the cost...My work is to teach and spread the knowledge of the Ageless Wisdom wherever I can find a response...
(Published August 1934)
"The Tibetan has asked me to make clear that when he is speaking of the Christ he is referring to His official name as head of the hierarchy. The Christ works for all men irrespective of their faith; He does not belong to the Christian world any more than to the Buddhist or Mohammedan or any other faith. There is no need for any man to join the Christian church in order to be affiliated with Christ. The requirements are to love your fellowmen, lead a disciplined life, recognise the divinity in all faiths and all beings and rule your daily life with love."
Bailey. A.A. The Externalisation of the Hierarchy. New York: Lucis Trust. p. 558.
NOTE: As you can see their Christ is Lucifer. Need more proof, read on.
Where did Alice A. Bailey get her teachings?
Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, founder of the Theosophical Society"... Madame Blavatsky ... stands out as the fountainhead of modern occult thought, and was either the originator and/or popularized many of the ideas and terms which have a century later been assembled within the New Age Movement. The Theosophical Society, which she cofounded, has been the major advocate of occult philosophy in the West and the single most important avenue of Eastern teaching to the West."
Gordon Melton, Jerome Clark and Aidan A. Kelly, editors, New Age Almanac, Detroit, Michigan, Gale Research Inc., 1991, p. 16.

13 Quotes from her books:
"Lucifer represents.. Life.. Thought.. Progress.. Civilization.. Liberty.. Independence.. Lucifer is the Logos..the Serpent, the Savior."
The Secret Doctrine' by Helen Petrovna Blavatsky on pages 171, 225, 255, (Vol. 11)
"It is Satan who is God of our planet and the only God."
pages 215, 216, 220, 245, 255, 233, (VI)
"The Celestial Virgin which thus becomes the Mother of Gods and Devils at one and the same time; for she is the ever-loving beneficent Deity...but in antiquity and reality Lucifer or Luciferius is the name. Lucifer is divine and terrestial Light, 'the Holy Ghost' and "Satan' at one and the same time."
page 539
Why does Alice Bailey want a one world order?
" first of all, he will come to a world which is essentially one world."
Bailey, A.A. The Reappearance of the Christ. New York: Lucis Trust. p. 15.
"The major effect of his appearance will surely be to demonstrate in every land the effects of a spirit of inclusiveness - an inclusiveness which will be channeled or expressed through him. All who seek right human relations will be gathered automatically to him, whether they are in one of the great religions or not; all who see no true or basic difference between religion and religion or between man and man or nation and nation will rally around him; those who embody the spirit of exclusiveness and separateness will stand automatically and equally revealed and all men will know them for what they are."
Bailey, A.A. The Reappearance of the Christ. New York: Lucis Trust. p. 15.
NOTE: I do have the spirit of exclusiveness and they know what I am, I am a follower of Jesus Christ. There is a difference between religions, one has the truth and is free and the other one's are stuck in Babylon as slaves to Lucifer.

14  When will Lucifer come?
"The reply comes with clarity; he will come unfailingly when a measure of peace has been restored..."
Bailey. A.A. The Externalisation of the Hierarchy. New York: Lucis Trust. p. 616.
" The major required preparation [for the coming of the 'Christ'] is a world at peace; however, that peace must be based on an educated goodwill, which will lead inevitably to right human relations, and therefore to the establishment of lines of light between nations and nation, religion and religion, group and group and man and man."
Bailey. A.A. The Externalisation of the Hierarchy. New York: Lucis Trust. p. 611.
What does the present priest of the UN have to say?
"The United Nations is the way, the way to oneness, that leads to the Supreme Oneness. It is like a river flowing towards the source, the Ultimate Source."
The United Nations becomes for us the answer to world suffering, world darkness and world ignorance. The inner vision of the United Nations is gift supreme. This vision the world can deny for 10,20,30,40,100 years.
" in the sphere of international relations.. a sense of greater or shared responsibility is particularly needed. Today, when the world is becoming increasingly interdependent, the dangers of irresponsible behavior have dramatically increased. Unless we realize that now we are part of one big, human family, we cannot hope to bring about peace and happiness."
--The Dalal Lama, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize
What is the New Age Agenda?

15  1. Merge God and Nature (ecology)
2. Eugenics
3. Eradicate male-female distinction (androgyny)
4. World peace and nuclear disarmament
5. One world economic & financial system
6. One world government
7. One world religion
Organizations leading the way towards global government.
1. The United Nations
2. The Council on Foreign Relations
3. The Trilateral Commission
4. The Bilderbergers Group
5. The Gorbachev Foundation
6. The Club of Rome
How do you lead the world to unite and bring religions together?
Education
"The world will not change and find peace if there is not a new education."
--U Thant former Secretary-General of the United Nations, a teacher http://www.unol.or
Obviously, I failed to make my point.
Let me try again.
If this Civil war starts a Nuclear war,
there won't be any large cities and none of the Globalists
will have the powers, riches, and comforts  that they presently enjoy.
They and their cities will be dead.
I will not miss them.
Rural folk will not comply with whatever is left over.
So what is the point?
 :popcorn:

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1035 on: May 15, 2022, 09:40:07 AM »
If this Civil war starts a Nuclear war,  They and their cities will be dead.  So what is the point?
The ultrawealthy and Power Okole may be psychotics and sociopaths, but they are not insane.  The only logical explanation for any of their machinations is to maintain their global economic and financial dominance via the US empire.  Hence, only a fool would believe that the war in Ukraine is simply Putin's desire to reestablish the Russian empire.  On the grand chessboard, the US empire moved its NATO pawns closer to Russia, which compelled Russia to take the military actions Washington DC knew they would take.  Although the US empire gloats in their achievement in getting all of their vassal states to place economic sanctions and kick Russia out of SWIFT, Putin had already seen that move coming.

What has happened was not only the economic and financial strengthening between Russia and China, but the rise of a new economic block composed of those two major powers plus Iran, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, India and South Asia, all of Eurasia, and many countries in Africa, as evidenced by their not taking part of the US empire's apparent economic blockade against Russia.  As it stands, it appears the question of nuclear war depends on how desperate the US empire is in wanting to beat Russia down to its weakened post-Soviet state under Yeltsin.  If the US empire continues to persist in its proxy NATO expansion into Sweden and Finland, that miscalculation can lead to possible nuclear exchange.

In Ukraine, however, if and when the Russians succeed, they will not be financially bankrupt as the US empire hoped due to the Multipolar World reasons shared above.  This is why, if everyone has been paying attention, the US empire has spent a great deal of time establishing the AUKUS military alliance, selling arms to Taiwan, and sailing their US Naval floating ducks provocatively in both the Taiwan Strait and the South China Sea.  The US empire is preparing for a war with the only real threat to their unipolar dominance, China, and that truly will be a nuclear proposition since China will not be defeated conventionally since its economy and manufacturing base are far superior to that of the US empire.  Hence, the prospects of nuclear war may not necessarily be started in Eastern Europe, but possibly in Asia, as that is the only way the US empire can militarily defeat China.

As you correctly often reference, there is a lot of 4-D, 5-D, etc. chess going on and the common people are not even the pawns in the game, but those bugs that get squished whenever any chess piece is moved.  Whatever happened to people power and democracy?
« Last Edit: May 15, 2022, 01:42:47 PM by Kuleana »

Kuleana

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1036 on: May 15, 2022, 10:05:10 AM »
One of the kings of the ultrawealthy himself, George Soros, and his contribution to the Ukrainian conflict with Russia.


hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1037 on: May 15, 2022, 02:45:04 PM »
The(y)... may be psychotics and sociopaths, but they are not insane.

“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1038 on: May 15, 2022, 02:54:12 PM »
Obviously, I failed to make my point.
Let me try again.
If this Civil war starts a Nuclear war,
there won't be any large cities and none of the Globalists
will have the powers, riches, and comforts  that they presently enjoy.
They and their cities will be dead.
I will not miss them.
Rural folk will not comply with whatever is left over.
So what is the point?
 :popcorn:

You are still thinking of war in the old fashioned sense.
The point of modern warfare is a perpetual state of conflict that never ends, whose only goal is to justify the existence of the tyrannical state.
They give us an enemy to fixate our hatred on so that we will not realize how everything we love has been stolen from us.

“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1039 on: May 15, 2022, 03:05:36 PM »


“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”