But handguns are effective against bears (Read 1271 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: But handguns are effective against bears
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2024, 02:17:17 PM »
Full speed bear -
I’m pretty good at throwing people under the bus.  So I already have a plan in mind for a bear attack

Didn't we see Shane use that tactic on Otis in The Walking Dead?

 :shake:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: But handguns are effective against bears
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2024, 02:29:55 PM »
yup
only need .22lr to shoot your buddy in the leg or knee and slow him down a bit...

Full speed bear -
I’m pretty good at throwing people under the bus.  So I already have a plan in mind for a bear attack

changemyoil66

Re: But handguns are effective against bears
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2024, 02:47:35 PM »
My first instinct, based on wild animal experts, is to stand perfectly still.  A bear can easily outrun you unless you're near a place of safety -- building, vehicle, ...

That means you won't be making any motion to draw your firearm.  Still is still. 

The bear:  walking casually in your direction.  You: frozen still.  The gap between the two of you: closing smaller and smaller.

Can't outrun him, can't move a muscle, can't predict what the bear's going to do.  Sounds like a pretty tense scenario no matter what firearm you're packing.

What about juukig, diving, spin, etc...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: But handguns are effective against bears
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2024, 03:20:16 PM »
What about juukig, diving, spin, etc...

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When it comes to recognizing and responding to a bear attack, few people have as
much experience as Alaska’s Steve Nelson, a former research geologist for the U.S.
Geological Survey who’s spent the last 41 years teaching bear defense courses in
the Last Frontier.
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In terms of firearm selection, Nelson said it’s really about delivering a few well-placed
shots on target in a short timeframe. The more energy and penetration the better,
provided you don’t select a firearm that’s too powerful for you to adequately manage.
As the bear charge drill in his course demonstrates, the average bear attack will happen
at 50 yards or less with an 800-pound animal moving at 30 mph. At that distance,
a shooter has roughly four seconds to make a charge-stopping shot, which requires a
steady hand under intense pressure.

Among firearms platforms, a rifle delivers more energy and is effective to greater
distances, making it the first choice. A 12-gauge shotgun and slug will deliver impressive
energy and is effective to moderate ranges. A handgun is worn on your person, however,
and is invaluable because it stays with you, whether you’re answering nature’s call or
stopping to field dress a game animal.
https://www.americanhunter.org/content/8-best-charge-stopping-bear-cartridges/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

tim808

Re: But handguns are effective against bears
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2024, 04:56:03 PM »
45 vs 9
I never really thought about which is “better”.  Just which is cheaper.  I’d shoot 45 if it was cheaper.

Similar with AK vs AR and 7.62x39 vs 556.  Whatever is cheaper.

When I go to the range, I shoot 22lr most of the time…..and use a bolt action so my ammo lasts longer…..my Chinese ancestors are smiling as they look down at me.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: But handguns are effective against bears
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2024, 08:39:30 PM »
45 vs 9
I never really thought about which is “better”.  Just which is cheaper.  I’d shoot 45 if it was cheaper.

Similar with AK vs AR and 7.62x39 vs 556.  Whatever is cheaper.

When I go to the range, I shoot 22lr most of the time…..and use a bolt action so my ammo lasts longer…..my Chinese ancestors are smiling as they look down at me.

There aren't any bears at the pistol range, are there?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

tim808

Re: But handguns are effective against bears
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2024, 10:22:31 PM »
Lol…

Does a steel bear gong at the rifle range count? 

(I have an optic on my Ruger Mark 3….and hope to mount optics on a G20 and a M&P 40L)