No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th (Read 6787 times)

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Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2025, 08:29:41 AM »
Damn - I wish I was this eloquent!

Here's something to lift your spirits about the great people - who are what makes our country great.

https://x.com/NowPammsy/status/1933918433894191355
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2025, 11:20:49 AM »
This happened at a Salt Lake City, Utah, No Kings protest.

Man arrested for death of bystander killed when armed men tried to shoot another armed man who fled.

The man arrested was not even the one who pulled the trigger.  The deceased was a Samoan-American.

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A man who was believed to be part of a peacekeeping team for the
“No Kings” protest in Salt Lake City shot at a person who was brandishing
a rifle at demonstrators, striking both the rifleman and a bystander who
later died at the hospital, authorities said Sunday.

Police took the alleged rifleman, Arturo Gamboa, 24, into custody Saturday
evening on a murder charge, Salt Lake City Police Chief Brian Redd said
at a Sunday news conference. The bystander was Arthur Folasa Ah Loo,
39, a fashion designer from Samoa
.

Detectives don’t yet know why Gamboa pulled out a rifle or ran from the
peacekeepers, but they accused him of creating the dangerous situation
that led to Ah Loo’s death. The Associated Press did not immediately find
an attorney listed for Gamboa or contact information for his family in public
records.
https://apnews.com/article/utah-no-kings-protest-shot-killed-75c777eeedd59c80c85695c45385c507

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changemyoil66

Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2025, 11:30:21 AM »
This happened at a Salt Lake City, Utah, No Kings protest.

Man arrested for death of bystander killed when armed men tried to shoot another armed man who fled.

The man arrested was not even the one who pulled the trigger.  The deceased was a Samoan-American.
https://apnews.com/article/utah-no-kings-protest-shot-killed-75c777eeedd59c80c85695c45385c507



Recap if you cannot watch the vid:

Utah allows open carry. 

The rifle holder wasn't slung, but was walking with his rifle at the low ready.

The "peacekeepers" are not law enforcement, so you do not have to obey any commands like if a cop gave you commands.


I saw the vid.  I think the peacekeeper should be charged and "jumped the gun". 

A lesson learned, "you're responsible for every bullet that leaves your barrel".



Flapp_Jackson

Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2025, 12:09:51 PM »
Recap if you cannot watch the vid:

Utah allows open carry. 

The rifle holder wasn't slung, but was walking with his rifle at the low ready.

The "peacekeepers" are not law enforcement, so you do not have to obey any commands like if a cop gave you commands.


I saw the vid.  I think the peacekeeper should be charged and "jumped the gun". 

A lesson learned, "you're responsible for every bullet that leaves your barrel".

From what I read and saw, a single "peacekeeper" fired 3 shots trying to stop the target as he ran into the crowd.  The target was also hit with one round and was arrested for murder.

The story being shared is the man in the crowd was carrying the rifle in his hand -- not using a sling.  He was said to have tried "manipulating" the rifle and holding it at the low ready when the peacekeepers yelled for him to drop the rifle.  That's when the target began running away.

The target has been charged with murder, but the man who fired has not been charged.

The target had handbills/signs on him with only the words "No Kings" in hand printing.

The police say the man's manifesto has been found, but it's not been released.  Releasing it might answer many questions as to his motives/political beliefs.

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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2025, 01:51:01 PM »
From what we see over the last few days, and listening to the phycho-babble coming out of their pie holes, it looks like mass formation psychosis, or just simply mass psychosis - never dissipated from the whack-job left in this country:

"Mass psychosis, often referred to as mass hysteria or mass psychogenic illness, is a phenomenon where a group of people experiences similar symptoms or behaviors without an identifiable physical cause, typically stemming from psychological factors. This can occur in response to shared stress or anxiety, leading individuals to believe they are affected by a common threat."

ICE deporting criminal illegal aliens under preexisting laws = Dictatorship!

Biden directing OSHA to enforce vaccine mandates on all businesses with more than 100 employees = Democracy! (Communism)

Trump directing that politicians be subject to the same laws as the rest of us = Dictatorship!

The White House & media hiding the fact that the sitting president is mentally incompetent = Democracy! (Communism)

Trump Administration cutting tax-payer $'s illegally directed to Dem NGO's for the purpose of undermining national security = Dictatorship!

The Office of the President being run by a nameless faceless cabal of autopen users = Democracy! (Communism),

etc., etc., ... ad nauseam

This vicious mind virus needs to be incinerated wherever it raises it hideous head.

They are criminally insane.

Sorry for posting the obvious, but sometimes their evil just torques me to the limit.
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zippz

Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2025, 07:12:52 PM »
Appears to have been a safe event.  My coworker did security at the Hawaii state capitol and said 3 no kings people went across the street to cause trouble with the counter protestors.  Other no kings people stopped them and dragged them back.

Good to see that kind of stuff in Hawaii.

macsak

Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2025, 04:33:29 PM »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2025, 11:21:37 AM »
A country with a king would not allow you to protest against the crown.

Kind of like how one side wouldn't let you pick your Presidential nominee.

Because nothing says "Democracy" like not letting anyone else run for the party nomination.

But Hawaii isn't ready for that conversation.
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2025, 01:30:35 AM »
This shows how dumb the left is if they think Trump is a "king".

I don't think they believe Trump is a king, they fear Trump will try to become a king.

changemyoil66

Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2025, 08:47:12 AM »
I don't think they believe Trump is a king, they fear Trump will try to become a king.

That too is dumb if they think this. 

I saw a meme of Trump on the phone with Putin:

Trump: Hey Vlad, I bet I can get people who hate me to call me a king.
Putin: Bet
Trump: LMFAO, I win!

QUIETShooter

Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2025, 09:13:05 AM »
I don't think they believe Trump is a king, they fear Trump will try to become a king.

I think their fear is something else.  Trump will destroy everything they have accumulated up to this point.

That is their fear and is what the voters voted for.  Their fear is the country has turned 180 degrees into the "right" direction, no longer the "left" direction....... ;D
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2025, 10:00:24 AM »
I don't think they believe Trump is a king, they fear Trump will try to become a king.

Your thinking is not based on reality.

3 ways Trump is acting like a king and
bypassing the Constitution’s checks and
balances on presidential authority

https://theconversation.com/3-ways-trump-is-acting-like-a-king-and-bypassing-the-constitutions-checks-and-balances-on-presidential-authority-249347

If they believe he's acting as a king, it's the same as saying they believe he is a king and acting with the same authority as one.
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2025, 05:17:33 PM »
I don't think they believe Trump is a king, they fear Trump will try to become a king.
Trump’s attempts at dismantling their subversion of lawful institutions / processes, which they did with the intention of laundering their vicious tyranny through them in order to produce the exact opposite of the intent of the founders of this country,

is what they call “acting like a King”

… just like when we say “he’s a transvestite,” they say “No you far-right hater / bigot, she’s a WOMAN.  Stop this violence against LBG&*@‘ouhgftcxs legion spirits ¥£€[]\}]^65<…5[[^, and furries!”

As obnoxious as Nazi’s 1.0 were, at least they had the decency to not claim that their invasion of Poland was to bring Democracy to the Polish people, etc., but not so these Nazi’s 2.0 - it’s hard to be more vile, but in this regard they are off the charts.

They are the perfect inversion of humanity and the progress of civilization.  I.e. you can have neither with them in it.

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Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2025, 11:16:41 PM »
Trump’s attempts at dismantling their subversion of lawful institutions / processes, which they did with the intention of laundering their vicious tyranny through them in order to produce the exact opposite of the intent of the founders of this country,

is what they call “acting like a King”

… just like when we say “he’s a transvestite,” they say “No you far-right hater / bigot, she’s a WOMAN.  Stop this violence against LBG&*@‘ouhgftcxs legion spirits ¥£€[]\}]^65<…5[[^, and furries!”

As obnoxious as Nazi’s 1.0 were, at least they had the decency to not claim that their invasion of Poland was to bring Democracy to the Polish people, etc., but not so these Nazi’s 2.0 - it’s hard to be more vile, but in this regard they are off the charts.

They are the perfect inversion of humanity and the progress of civilization.  I.e. you can have neither with them in it.

I don't agree with your premise so I can't agree with what follows.

I think this is another example of failing to understand each other. Summarize the opponent's position in the least charitable way possible and claim they are trying to destroy America. Democrats do it to republicans and republicans do it to democrats.

They aren't protesting Trump here simply because they lost the election and aren't getting their way. They are protesting because Trump is acting like he is a king. Even if you like his policies and nearly everything he has done so far it is undeniable that he has tried to balloon the authority of the president with more executive orders that have reached farther than ever before.

Anti-Trump bias makes it seem worse than it really is but in the same way pro-Trump bias makes it seem less worse than it really is. The thing that surprises me most is how readily conservatives and republicans, the people who have been historically most concerned about the ever growing power of government are turning a blind eye to Trump's behavior. I don't know why these supposed values get tossed out the window just because it is Trump.

eyeeatingfish

Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2025, 11:17:06 PM »
Your thinking is not based on reality.

3 ways Trump is acting like a king and
bypassing the Constitution’s checks and
balances on presidential authority

https://theconversation.com/3-ways-trump-is-acting-like-a-king-and-bypassing-the-constitutions-checks-and-balances-on-presidential-authority-249347

If they believe he's acting as a king, it's the same as saying they believe he is a king and acting with the same authority as one.

Acting like a king =/= a king

Flapp_Jackson

Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2025, 12:50:16 AM »
Acting like a king =/= a king
I knew you'd say that, just to argue, which is why I added:
If they believe he's acting as a king, it's the same as saying they believe he is a king and acting with the same authority as one.


We don't have an actual monarchy here, nor is there likely to be one in our lifetimes -- at least not during Trump's lifetime.

So, the best  he can do is ACT like a king if he intended to reign like one.

Way to nit pick.
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Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2025, 07:23:31 AM »
I don't agree with your premise so I can't agree with what follows.

I think this is another example of failing to understand each other. Summarize the opponent's position in the least charitable way possible and claim they are trying to destroy America. Democrats do it to republicans and republicans do it to democrats.

They aren't protesting Trump here simply because they lost the election and aren't getting their way. They are protesting because Trump is acting like he is a king. Even if you like his policies and nearly everything he has done so far it is undeniable that he has tried to balloon the authority of the president with more executive orders that have reached farther than ever before.

Anti-Trump bias makes it seem worse than it really is but in the same way pro-Trump bias makes it seem less worse than it really is. The thing that surprises me most is how readily conservatives and republicans, the people who have been historically most concerned about the ever growing power of government are turning a blind eye to Trump's behavior. I don't know why these supposed values get tossed out the window just because it is Trump.

Holy crap man!

“he has tried to balloon the authority of the president with more executive orders that have reached farther than ever before.”

Joe Biden’s fucking auto pen ruled this country with unquestioned authority, and the meat puppets screaming “King!” sat contentedly on the floor licking their balls.  It conducted a full scale treasonous invasion of this country, and the meat puppets ordered Mexican takeout while trying on their new dresses, girls did too.

…. and for months we have seen that what some anonymous staffer could do with Joe Biden’s auto pen, the elected President of the United States, according to you and all the rest, DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO UNDO.

Trumps response to this judicial tyranny?  He waits for the fucking Supreme Court to get around to restoring the separation of powers.

Acting like a King??????

Look, you guys are playing with real fire here.  When you so fucking in-your-face push for the extinction of the rule of law in this country, you are hastening the day when decent men will have no choice left to them to restore it, other than by force.

You folks seem to think this is some political game, like you can propagandize, subvert institutions, and then slip the noose of tyranny over the people’s heads when they aren’t looking, and clap your hands and say “We win the game - you must submit to the government we just stole!”

Read your history - it’s not a game.  You folks always end up somewhere out in the country with dirt shoveled on your faces.

Politically of course.



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QUIETShooter

Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2025, 09:00:53 AM »
Trump is acting like a King.

He has to.  He's trying to fix the country after 4 years of the autopen.

Drastic times require Drastic Measures.

The communist/socialist hordes are scared shitless.

And therefore, talking shit.
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eyeeatingfish

Re: No King's Day - AKA The US Army's 250th Birthday June 14th
« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2025, 01:05:35 AM »
I knew you'd say that, just to argue, which is why I added:
If they believe he's acting as a king, it's the same as saying they believe he is a king and acting with the same authority as one.

Which is why I said "Acting like a king =/= a king". I am saying your statement is false, it is a non-sequitur.

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We don't have an actual monarchy here, nor is there likely to be one in our lifetimes -- at least not during Trump's lifetime.

So, the best  he can do is ACT like a king if he intended to reign like one.

Way to nit pick.

Way to defend Trump's autocratic tendencies. Someone forgot what America fought the war of independence over, guess the Trump cult is more important to you than the conservative values of this nation.