Cops are exempt from many Hawaii laws.

They are exempt from the new safe storage requirements passed last month.  Why they don't have to secure their guns at home I dunno.

Cops are exempt from many Hawaii laws.

They are exempt from the new safe storage requirements passed last month.  Why they don't have to secure their guns at home I dunno.

They are better trained than the rest of the people....

If the perp killed an innocent bystander with the HPD officer's weapon, then what?

Remember, he didn't wrestle it from an officers hands, he picked it up because it was left unattended.

What HPD, governor, mayor, police chief, and prosecutors office going do?  Offer their hearts and prayers to the family of the victim?

"Our hearts and prayers go out to the family and friends of the victim(s) during this horrible tragedy....."

Yeah, right.  F*ck you.

I don't think criminal charges would have fit this case. I am sure they will have internal consequences but there doesn't seem to be criminal elements to their mistake.

Oh, but what if I left my rifle "unattended" as in not secured........who's the criminal now.

I don't think criminal charges would have fit this case. I am sure they will have internal consequences but there doesn't seem to be criminal elements to their mistake.

If the perp killed an innocent bystander with the HPD officer's weapon, then what?

Remember, he didn't wrestle it from an officers hands, he picked it up because it was left unattended.

What HPD, governor, mayor, police chief, and prosecutors office going do?  Offer their hearts and prayers to the family of the victim?

"Our hearts and prayers go out to the family and friends of the victim(s) during this horrible tragedy....."

Yeah, right.  F*ck you.

I don't think criminal charges would have fit this case. I am sure they will have internal consequences but there doesn't seem to be criminal elements to their mistake.

If I left a firearm loaded and unlocked in my garage, and a kid wanders in, do you think there would be no criminal elements for my mistake if the kid commits a crime with it -- like pointing it at police?

The Prosecutor will just say, “No charges. Everyone makes mistakes.  Flapp is a good boy.”

Then you will get a call from HPD asking if you want to pick up your firearm or have it delivered.

Oh, but what if I left my rifle "unattended" as in not secured........who's the criminal now.

If I left a firearm loaded and unlocked in my garage, and a kid wanders in, do you think there would be no criminal elements for my mistake if the kid commits a crime with it -- like pointing it at police?

Criminal, no but you could be hit with a civil suit.

§134-9.3 Leaving unsecured firearm in vehicle unattended; penalty. (a) No person shall intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly store or otherwise leave a loaded or unloaded firearm out of the person's immediate possession or control inside a vehicle without first securely locking the firearm in a safe storage depository that is out of sight from outside of the vehicle.

(b) For purposes of this section, "safe storage depository" means a safe or other secure impact- and tamper-resistant container that, when locked, is incapable of being opened without a key, keypad, combination, or other unlocking mechanism and is capable of preventing an unauthorized person from obtaining access to or possession of the firearm contained therein. A vehicle's trunk or glove box alone, even if locked, is not a safe storage depository.

(c) This section shall not apply to a person in an exempt category identified in section 134-11(a).

(d) Any person who violates subsection (a) shall be guilty of a petty misdemeanor. [L 2023, c 52, pt of §2]

Criminal, no but you could be hit with a civil suit.

It would be a misdemeanor and a firearms possession ban for 20 years along with possible civil liability.

Under secure storage or negligent storage.

you would think 5-0 would know the laws better...