I had a feeling nothing going happen. (Read 2182 times)

changemyoil66

Re: I had a feeling nothing going happen.
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2025, 07:42:48 PM »
you would think 5-0 would know the laws better...
Why is there a need to know the law when they dont apply to them?

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ren

Re: I had a feeling nothing going happen.
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2025, 07:44:33 PM »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: I had a feeling nothing going happen.
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2025, 07:48:07 PM »
Why is there a need to know the law when they dont apply to them?

Because if I'm going to lecture someone on the law or any other topic, I'm either going to know what I'm talking about from years of experience, or I'm going to do a quick verification that the information I'm spreading is accurate.

i'd expect anyone else that calls himself an expert would do the same without trying to wiggle out of being wrong.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: I had a feeling nothing going happen.
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2025, 12:54:16 AM »
It would be a misdemeanor and a firearms possession ban for 20 years along with possible civil liability.

Under secure storage or negligent storage.

Not true, the only two sections about the storage of a firearm wouldn't apply. The one Flapp cited only applies to storage in a vehicle and the other has to do with storage when a minor is around.
Section 707-714.5 Criminally negligent storage of a firearm only comes into play if the firearm wasn't stored and the minor accessed the firearm. It would not apply if a burglar under the age of 18 broke into your home and grabbed a firearm of yours though.
« Last Edit: July 30, 2025, 12:59:30 AM by eyeeatingfish »

changemyoil66

Re: I had a feeling nothing going happen.
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2025, 08:09:44 AM »
Not true, the only two sections about the storage of a firearm wouldn't apply. The one Flapp cited only applies to storage in a vehicle and the other has to do with storage when a minor is around.
Section 707-714.5 Criminally negligent storage of a firearm only comes into play if the firearm wasn't stored and the minor accessed the firearm. It would not apply if a burglar under the age of 18 broke into your home and grabbed a firearm of yours though.

Does the law state an exclusion for a burglar who is a minor?  Or does the law just state "minor"?

eyeeatingfish

Re: I had a feeling nothing going happen.
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2025, 10:49:09 PM »
Does the law state an exclusion for a burglar who is a minor?  Or does the law just state "minor"?

From the HRS
"(2) This section shall not apply if the minor obtains the firearm as a result of an unlawful entry to any premises by any person."

So this would apply not only to a minor burglar, but one who trespass, unauthorized entry into a dwelling, etc.

eyeeatingfish

Re: I had a feeling nothing going happen.
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2025, 10:53:05 PM »
What he knows and what the truth is don't always coincide.  He just wants to argue over the smallest details rather than admit he was wrong.

He doesn't care if the attention he gets is positive or negative, as long as the topics revolve around him.

Don't claim the debate is about me to cover for your own inadequacies.

Maybe you should "do a quick verification that the information I'm spreading is accurate" before replying to me.

changemyoil66

Re: I had a feeling nothing going happen.
« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2025, 08:55:45 AM »
From the HRS
"(2) This section shall not apply if the minor obtains the firearm as a result of an unlawful entry to any premises by any person."

So this would apply not only to a minor burglar, but one who trespass, unauthorized entry into a dwelling, etc.

See how easy that was to answer a simple question.

eyeeatingfish

Re: I had a feeling nothing going happen.
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2025, 10:23:51 PM »
See how easy that was to answer a simple question.

Yup, you asked and I answered.  :thumbsup: