Traffic lawlessness (Read 2261 times)

ren

Traffic lawlessness
« on: July 04, 2025, 01:24:10 PM »
Is it me but are people more brazen and "ainokea" than ever before? Everyday afternoon traffic I see motorcycles splitting lanes with no care, vehicles doing U turns in the middle of the street, running red lights and bypassing traffic lights altogether! In addition, I see cars with no license plates, expired safety tags (more than year old) no registration tags, front windshield totally tinted etc...
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2025, 02:40:32 PM »
Is it me but are people more brazen and "ainokea" than ever before? Everyday afternoon traffic I see motorcycles splitting lanes with no care, vehicles doing U turns in the middle of the street, running red lights and bypassing traffic lights altogether! In addition, I see cars with no license plates, expired safety tags (more than year old) no registration tags, front windshield totally tinted etc...

Leaving Costco in Waipio yesterday, my daughter was driving.  We passed the gas station entrance and turned left to get onto Moaniani St toward the Tony Auto Car wash.  The gas station was busy, probably because it was about 6pm and the long holiday weekend was starting.

There was a line of cars exiting from Moaniani into the Costco parking lot entrance beside the gas station.  Some dips#!t in a minivan decided he gets to use the lane to the left of that line (i.e. oncoming traffic) to pass them all -- and met us turning and toward him head-on.  He was lucky to have enough room to squeeze back into the line in his lane so we could get by.  I'm 100% sure my daughter would have not backed up to let him go first.  She's my daughter, after all!  Luckily for us, it only cost us a few seconds of stopping to see what he was going to do next.

It's not worth getting angry over these idiots, but they do test my patience.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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QUIETShooter

Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2025, 02:47:11 PM »
My wife loves to spot auto safety sticker expirations.  There are millions of expired safety stickers out there.

Doesn't that mean that they also don't have current vehicle registrations?

And doesn't it mean that the "ainokea" attitude is fine and well on Oahu's highways and byways?

And doesn't it mean that hit and runs on vehicles and pedestrians will skyrocket since they no like get caught?

And doesn't it mean that Rick will get confrontational and going like beef if you call him out on it?

But doesn't this all mean nothing since Hawaii's voters will vote the same plicks into office again?
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2025, 03:38:48 PM »
My wife loves to spot auto safety sticker expirations.  There are millions of expired safety stickers out there.

Doesn't that mean that they also don't have current vehicle registrations?

And doesn't it mean that the "ainokea" attitude is fine and well on Oahu's highways and byways?

And doesn't it mean that hit and runs on vehicles and pedestrians will skyrocket since they no like get caught?

And doesn't it mean that Rick will get confrontational and going like beef if you call him out on it?

But doesn't this all mean nothing since Hawaii's voters will vote the same plicks into office again?

Since new cars get a 2-year safety sticker, you could have a sticker issued 3 years ago and must now get an inspection in order to renew the registration.  That assumes you renewed the registration shortly before the safety sticker expires.

Most times if stopped for an expired safety sticker that's only 2-3 months expired, you'll get a warning, which doesn't cost anything.

if your sticker expired 5-6+ months ago, you're more likely to get a ticket.

If the process is the same as when i moved here -- if you need both a registration and safety check, you get the safety check done first.  The inspector will fail you for not having a current HI registration.  As long as nothing else failed the safety inspection, you take the inspection report to the DMV to get your registration.  Then you take the registration back to the same inspection station, and they will pass your vehicle and give you a sticker.  They don't charge anything for the return visit since the sticker is included in the original fee and nothing else needs inspecting.

So, some of the expired stickers might not be safety violations, just in the process of getting the registration so they can get their sticker.

In short, an expired safety sticker doesn't always mean the driver has no registration, or that the vehicle can't pass.

As for hit and runs with pedestrians, I think anyone that leaves the scene isn't worried about a safety check and/or registration violation.  Off the top of my head, i can think of a half dozen reasons someone might flee the scene of an accident, and not having a valid registration card isn't one of them.  Fugitive/has warrants, license revoked, stolen vehicle, no auto insurance, they know they are in the wrong and want to avoid consequences, intoxicated, etc.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

oldfart

Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2025, 04:53:52 PM »
Y'all saw my dashcam video of the motorcycle doing about 80mph in the BICYCLE LANE?

Obviously,  with traffic fatalities more than double and upside down cars on the news, something is going on. This morning, I went to visit my old friend today who is a retired judge. He brought up this very same topic. SMH
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ren

Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2025, 05:21:45 PM »
In regards to safety inspections - We should eliminate them. How many accidents are caused by safety inspection items? Traffic laws are one giant example that laws don't work absolutely.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2025, 08:01:04 PM »
In regards to safety inspections - We should eliminate them. How many accidents are caused by safety inspection items? Traffic laws are one giant example that laws don't work absolutely.

i agree that the inspection system needs to end.

What should happen is anytime a Cop initiates a traffic stop or happens to observe an obvious problem. they should issue a warning ticket to the driver -- no fine.

If the driver is caught in a narrow window of time with the same safety violation, they should get a ticket.  if the tickets accrue, the fines also adjust upward.  Eventually they will realize it's cheaper to fix the problem.

We already have safety standards -- the inspectors use them for every inspection.  Make those standards available to car owners, and they can check for problems periodically or take their car to an auto shop to have it checked over for them.

if someone causes an accident due to improper maintenance, and the owner was cited for that issue prior, that's negligence.  Punish the ones who cause the problems and leave everyone who's never caused an accident alone.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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ren

Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2025, 10:08:07 PM »
https://www.kitv.com/news/local/woman-dies-following-head-on-crash-in-halawa/article_6bf6ee81-f401-4d46-b75d-5b43e4eef7d1.html

The collision took place at about 10:57 a.m. on July 4 at the intersection of Kahuapaani Street and Mananai Place. The Honolulu Police Department reported that a 40-year-old man was driving northbound on Kahuapaani Street with a 34-year-old man. As he attempted to turn left onto Mananai Place, he disregarded a red traffic signal. During the turn, his car was broadsided by a 22-year-old woman who was traveling southbound on Kahuapaani Street with a 25-year-old woman.

The collision resulted in multiple injuries: the 25-year-old woman was in critical condition, and the 22-year-old woman and 40-year-old man were in good condition when they were transported to the hospital. The 25-year-old woman was later pronounced dead from the injuries she sustained.
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oldfart

Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2025, 12:40:38 AM »
Speaking of upside down cars.....

Man hospitalized after rollover crash in Makakilo  https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/07/05/man-hospitalized-after-rollover-crash-makakilo/
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2025, 07:59:16 AM »
Thinking back, I had inspection requirements in NC, VA, MD and HI.  OK was the only state where I lived that I didn't need a mandatory annual safety inspection.

New Hampshire just passed a new budget that will eliminate their mandatory annual safety inspections starting next year.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2025, 08:07:35 AM »
Every state i've lived in that required annual inspections of vehicles had a specific violation that seemed to pop up with almost every car.  In Virginia, it was brake pads.

After moving from OK where no inspection was needed to VA where inspections are mandated, I took my minivan into the closest Firestone to the base where i lived. I received a call after about an hour saying my van needed new pads on all 4 wheels.  The estimate if they did the work was $126 -- this was in 1989.  And once you fail an inspection, you must return to the same station to have the failure removed once the repair is done.  You can't go to a different place that isn't trying to make money on overpriced repairs to see if your repairs are needed.  if you don't do the repairs, that first place won't pass you.

I asked around and found a place called Brake King who did the job in an hour and only charged $40.  i took the receipt back to Firestone and got the sticker.

I've noticed here the place i take my vehicles has a place on the form to authorize any needed inspection repairs up to a small amount, like maybe $25.  Once, i had a bulb for a tail light replaced, and they charged $12.  The same bulb is 2 for $3 at most auto parts places.  So, ever since that inspection, I do a walk-around to check all my lights and signals before driving to the inspections station.  I've saved myself an over-priced bulb replacement 3 times.

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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2025, 04:40:05 PM »
When it comes to the traffic / parking horror we all face, what virtually everyone stuck in it doesn’t realize, is that it is increasingly intentional on the part of The PartyTM.

In town especially, you must have notice the elimination of parking in favor of Biki, the loss of cross-town road lanes to “bus only,” and bike lanes - especially on King St. through downtown, forcing surface commuters all onto Vineyard, where, in turn, they have installed the ticket cams - cranking out 30,000 violations a month, as harried drives run the gauntlet - just to survive their work a day lives.  Having heavy traffic forced to turn through two-way bike lanes on King Street, etc.

In other words, having lived and driven in Honolulu for 50 years and seeing this noose tighten around drivers’ necks, I firmly believe that much of the awful behavior we see out there is driven by desperation / total exasperation.

The PartyTM is driving this agenda against the interests of the vast majority of citizens.  They have a name for it: Vehicle Travel Reduction Goals.

Below is from the Hawaii Appleseed Center for Law and Economic Justice, obviously a leftist NGO, and local politicians execute their agenda.  These are the same guys who almost forced Vancouver’s failed Empty Homes Tax on Honolulu.


“To tackle these challenges, this report calls for a reimagining of the state’s transportation budget to align more closely with the diverse needs of Hawaiʻi’s residents and the state’s broader environmental and public health objectives. Specifically, the report provides three key policy recommendations for HDOT:

Establish new budget priorities that reflect required vehicle travel reduction goals;

Increase budget transparency by disclosing vehicle travel impacts of proposed projects, and actively prioritize projects that reduce vehicle travel; and

Increase the amount of dedicated funding for the Safe Routes to School program special fund to support the completion of the state’s pedestrian and bicycle infrastructure network”

https://hiappleseed.org/publications/rethinking-roads

Regardless of what you think or feel about cars (personally, I’d love to live in metro areas of Japan where I can go virtually anywhere by awesome public transport - never deal with a car again…), the agenda in Honolulu is to torment you out of driving - BUT WITH NO VIABLE ALTERNATIVES for the overwhelming majority of us here.

With Hawaii’s corruption and incompetence, we will never have what the Japanese have - that is screamingly obvious.

Just understand that their policy is to torment relentlessly, with no conception beyond that.

So be compassionate to your fellow drivers - they are being tormented coming and going every damn day.

Sorry for the long post, but I believe most people don’t really get that they are being intentionally fucked.

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ren

Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2025, 10:13:04 PM »
« Last Edit: July 08, 2025, 10:43:07 PM by ren »
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Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2025, 08:12:33 AM »

When natural selection works its magic on this hamburger,

... you and I will be blamed for it,

'cause never let a good traffic death of a moron go to waste,

in furthering The Party'sTM agenda to destroy your freedom of movement

on this island
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astroboy

Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2025, 09:11:14 AM »
Our leftist leaders want to shove mass transit and 15 minute communities down our throats.
Dey No Kea how its done.

QUIETShooter

Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2025, 09:37:09 AM »
Communism.  Socialist reform.  To me it's the same thing.

Keep them dumb and stupid.  But all the same.  "Equal" :rofl:

Their version of equal is not what our forefathers envisioned.

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oldfart

Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2025, 08:32:22 PM »
...and ANOTHER upside down car!
Rollover crash involving teens leaves one dead, several injured https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2025/07/12/deadly-rollover-crash-involving-teens-leaves-one-dead-several-injured/
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Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2025, 07:11:35 AM »
I love the title of the news:  Deadly roll-over crash involving teens..............

From what I gather the driver was not a teen.  To me, the title makes it seem that way right off the bat. ::)

And while speed was determined to be a factor, alcohol and drugs remain unknown.

One other factor was not mentioned:  STUPIDITY. :grrr:

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hvybarrels

Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2025, 12:35:45 PM »
I’ve been hesitant to ride my motorcycle lately. This year I’ve witnessed a couple incidents involving people who didn’t notice the line of cars at a stoplight and plowed straight into them. If someone hits you from behind on a bike like that there’s a good chance you’re not going to make it. The state should allow bikes to filter through at traffic lights and give more incentives for two wheel vehicles in general. Four wheel vehicles these days have so many safety features that they make the divers feel invulnerable and they drive more aggressively as a result.
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Re: Traffic lawlessness
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2025, 03:48:24 PM »
I’ve been hesitant to ride my motorcycle lately. This year I’ve witnessed a couple incidents involving people who didn’t notice the line of cars at a stoplight and plowed straight into them. If someone hits you from behind on a bike like that there’s a good chance you’re not going to make it. The state should allow bikes to filter through at traffic lights and give more incentives for two wheel vehicles in general. Four wheel vehicles these days have so many safety features that they make the divers feel invulnerable and they drive more aggressively as a result.
Fatality rate in Hawaii due to distracted driving twice as high as the mainland
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HONOLULU(KHON2) — Hawaii’s fatality rate due to distracted driving is twice as high as the mainland and officials said it’s completely preventable. The Hawaii Transportation Department is urging drivers to pay attention with a simple message: ‘Eyes up, phones down.’


I think we have all seen these mindless fucks rear ending cars in traffic here.  We’ve seen impacts twice downtown: First one was to the car next to us at a light.  Jabbering morons slammed full speed into them - no brakes.  We saw them go by us just jabbering away with each other like they were chatting at a party.  Huge impact.

Same street awhile later, someone rear ended the line behind us with so much force that it moved five cars, chain reaction, into my Tacoma’s 1/4 inch steel (obviously not stock) bumper.  We dove away, but no one else could.

Both in the PM after work in the commute home.

There is no way to overstate how fucking mindless some of these things behind the wheel here are.  It’s not drugs, it is terminal idiocy.

Not your imagination - we have the worst of this type of thing here.
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