Probably not what you expect this to be about;

I recently ran into something that was interesting. I was browsing through instagram and saw a "hot" model with some weapons she was posing with. Two, to be exact. She had both trigger fingers on the triggers and was posing for the camera. I have always been taught, from day one of training with any weapon, that safety is the most important. Your safety rules when handling weapons include having your trigger fingers straight and off the trigger until you're ready to fire. Now, there's no way for me to know that whoever handed her those weapons cleared them out. And I'm not sure that she has ever trained with such weapons. But, it would have only taken one round from one of those weapons to strike an innocent bystander at a gun show, mind you, to have ended the likelihood of any more gun shows and fueling anti-gun nuts' fires.

I'm all about the promotion of the 2nd amendment, but I am more for the promotion of safe weapons handling. Some of you might know what post I'm talking about and maybe think I'm just butthurt because when I told her what she was doing wrong, she told me something along the lines of not giving an f***.

Just something I wanted to put out there for discussion...not even sure this is the right section.

Probably not what you expect this to be about;

I recently ran into something that was interesting. I was browsing through instagram and saw a "hot" model with some weapons she was posing with. Two, to be exact. She had both trigger fingers on the triggers and was posing for the camera. I have always been taught, from day one of training with any weapon, that safety is the most important. Your safety rules when handling weapons include having your trigger fingers straight and off the trigger until you're ready to fire. Now, there's no way for me to know that whoever handed her those weapons cleared them out. And I'm not sure that she has ever trained with such weapons. But, it would have only taken one round from one of those weapons to strike an innocent bystander at a gun show, mind you, to have ended the likelihood of any more gun shows and fueling anti-gun nuts' fires.

I'm all about the promotion of the 2nd amendment, but I am more for the promotion of safe weapons handling. Some of you might know what post I'm talking about and maybe think I'm just butthurt because when I told her what she was doing wrong, she told me something along the lines of not giving an f***.

Just something I wanted to put out there for discussion...not even sure this is the right section.

let's see the pic!

Does that work? Never posted a picture before.

Does that work? Never posted a picture before.

works, thanks

Probably not what you expect this to be about;

I recently ran into something that was interesting. I was browsing through instagram and saw a "hot" model with some weapons she was posing with. Two, to be exact. She had both trigger fingers on the triggers and was posing for the camera. I have always been taught, from day one of training with any weapon, that safety is the most important. Your safety rules when handling weapons include having your trigger fingers straight and off the trigger until you're ready to fire. Now, there's no way for me to know that whoever handed her those weapons cleared them out. And I'm not sure that she has ever trained with such weapons. But, it would have only taken one round from one of those weapons to strike an innocent bystander at a gun show, mind you, to have ended the likelihood of any more gun shows and fueling anti-gun nuts' fires.

I'm all about the promotion of the 2nd amendment, but I am more for the promotion of safe weapons handling. Some of you might know what post I'm talking about and maybe think I'm just butthurt because when I told her what she was doing wrong, she told me something along the lines of not giving an f***.

Just something I wanted to put out there for discussion...not even sure this is the right section.

I think you are expecting too much from photographers and inexperienced gun handlers.  The safety rules say to never assume a gun is empty, and to handle all guns, even empty ones, as loaded. 

Personal responsibility with guns needs to be just that -- personal.  If I am present and feel at risk, I'll say something about someone unsafely handling a gun around me.  When watching You Tube and other photo-related images, you have to remember that these were created in the past, and nothing you complain about now will matter at all.  I don't get nervous with gun muzzles pointing at me from the PC screen. The round would hit the camera or someone working it, not me!!  Again, unless it's live streaming, it's all in the past.  No reason to make safety-Nazi comments after the fact.  Chances are, there will be plenty of others making that comment for you!

Based on the OP, this was on Instagram and not an in-person observation.  Nothing you can do about that.

Sometimes we get wrapped around the technical aspects of multimedia displays.  To me, this is no different than watching a war movie with the actors running around with fingers on triggers and muzzles sweeping their buddies.  It's good that people are sensitized to watch for unsafe acts with guns, but you have to keep it in context.  Are you or someone else presently at risk?  Then you have a duty to correct them.  If not, just roll with it!

I wonder if there are other examples demonstrating that photographers or models haven't got the first clue about guns ....

I think you are expecting too much from photographers and inexperienced gun handlers.  The safety rules say to never assume a gun is empty, and to handle all guns, even empty ones, as loaded. 

Personal responsibility with guns needs to be just that -- personal.  If I am present and feel at risk, I'll say something about someone unsafely handling a gun around me.  When watching You Tube and other photo-related images, you have to remember that these were created in the past, and nothing you complain about now will matter at all.  I don't get nervous with gun muzzles pointing at me from the PC screen. The round would hit the camera or someone working it, not me!!  Again, unless it's live streaming, it's all in the past.  No reason to make safety-Nazi comments after the fact.  Chances are, there will be plenty of others making that comment for you!

Based on the OP, this was on Instagram and not an in-person observation.  Nothing you can do about that.

Sometimes we get wrapped around the technical aspects of multimedia displays.  To me, this is no different than watching a war movie with the actors running around with fingers on triggers and muzzles sweeping their buddies.  It's good that people are sensitized to watch for unsafe acts with guns, but you have to keep it in context.  Are you or someone else presently at risk?  Then you have a duty to correct them.  If not, just roll with it!

I wonder if there are other examples demonstrating that photographers or models haven't got the first clue about guns ....

in a world of compromise, some men load their mags backwards

I think you are expecting too much from photographers and inexperienced gun handlers.  The safety rules say to never assume a gun is empty, and to handle all guns, even empty ones, as loaded. 

Personal responsibility with guns needs to be just that -- personal.  If I am present and feel at risk, I'll say something about someone unsafely handling a gun around me.  When watching You Tube and other photo-related images, you have to remember that these were created in the past, and nothing you complain about now will matter at all.  I don't get nervous with gun muzzles pointing at me from the PC screen. The round would hit the camera or someone working it, not me!!  Again, unless it's live streaming, it's all in the past.  No reason to make safety-Nazi comments after the fact.  Chances are, there will be plenty of others making that comment for you!

Based on the OP, this was on Instagram and not an in-person observation.  Nothing you can do about that.

Sometimes we get wrapped around the technical aspects of multimedia displays.  To me, this is no different than watching a war movie with the actors running around with fingers on triggers and muzzles sweeping their buddies.  It's good that people are sensitized to watch for unsafe acts with guns, but you have to keep it in context.  Are you or someone else presently at risk?  Then you have a duty to correct them.  If not, just roll with it!

I wonder if there are other examples demonstrating that photographers or models haven't got the first clue about guns ....

By no means am I trying to argue, as I understand your point, but in the long run it does and will affect the gun community. Although I am not personally  at risk by the model having her finger on the trigger, my rights as an American to own a firearm are jeopardized the second someone gets shot. I understand that there is nothing I can do about a picture taken in the past, but as a community, in the future, we need to educate more people that guns are a weapon used to kill things and people, and that when put in someone's hands they must be treated as such. Personally, I could blame whomever gave her the weapons, but at this point there is no point. I just wished that who ever gave those to her had been more articulate about how to handle them. Spilled milk.

Safety is always first but I see No magazine & bolt held open with what looks to be a zip tie..

By no means am I trying to argue, as I understand your point, but in the long run it does and will affect the gun community. Although I am not personally  at risk by the model having her finger on the trigger, my rights as an American to own a firearm are jeopardized the second someone gets shot. I understand that there is nothing I can do about a picture taken in the past, but as a community, in the future, we need to educate more people that guns are a weapon used to kill things and people, and that when put in someone's hands they must be treated as such. Personally, I could blame whomever gave her the weapons, but at this point there is no point. I just wished that who ever gave those to her had been more articulate about how to handle them. Spilled milk.

That's the key. 

My responsibility stops where I can not affect the outcome.  If you know the model, photographer, or the vendor the model worked for, then you can affect FUTURE problems by communicating your concerns directly to them. 

I think too many people hold a belief that comments somehow are teaching new shooters the safety rules.  I doubt that ever happens.  No new shooters are viewing that instagram pic thinking, "If she can pose like that, then trigger finger position doesn't matter."   

Bad model... Needs a spanking.

That's the key. 

My responsibility stops where I can not affect the outcome.  If you know the model, photographer, or the vendor the model worked for, then you can affect FUTURE problems by communicating your concerns directly to them. 

I think too many people hold a belief that comments somehow are teaching new shooters the safety rules.  I doubt that ever happens.  No new shooters are viewing that instagram pic thinking, "If she can pose like that, then trigger finger position doesn't matter."   

it's interesting that she was way more upset about the trigger finger comment than she was about someone saying they will "round house that ass"

it's interesting that she was way more upset about the trigger finger comment than she was about someone saying they will "round house that ass"

She posted that comment. LoL.

She posted that comment. LoL.

she's gonna round house your ass?

she's gonna round house your ass?

lol,I'm going to use that on my workers,A you guys better hurry up or I'm gonna round house your ass`s.

lol,I'm going to use that on my workers,A you guys better hurry up or I'm gonna round house your ass`s.

Don't forget your Chuck Norris action jeans when you do it....

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City of Compton eh. 

That said I completely didn't see her!?!   Restart the show I like go back!

Maybe the "owner" did provide a thorough pre-show, gun safety education course, and the model simply forgot or ignored the education.

Not to stereotype, but I imagine that models are not always selected for their mental faculties... occasionally, I hear they are selected for their other... ah... more visually pleasing attributes.

I agree, just listen to her response..ill round house your ass. really don't give a fu#%..lol..not much running around in that brain, instead of brains she opted for the boobs, and butt.

I agree, just listen to her response..ill round house your ass. really don't give a fu#%..lol..not much running around in that brain, instead of brains she opted for the boobs, and butt.

BB in a boxcar.
 In ten years that ass will be 4 feet wide and the boobies will look like fruit rollups........

that's their "model" 
Oh my standards went down with IQ.
She thinks her hotness is > your trigger discipline and she responds with a very child-like answer for someone who looks like in their late 20s!
The firearms she is "modeling" are jokes. cheap ass optics and i dont know what gun is on her right?!
Looks like Comical-Con-Compton Chapter.