Official Hawaii CCW Thread (Read 2821 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #40 on: January 18, 2023, 09:14:40 AM »
So a weird phenomenon has taken place.  My shit schedule is like clockwork.  I get the coffee shits only in the morning. When I drink coffee in the afternoon or later, no problem.

So I always take a dump in the morning at home.  Then again at work around 9, and again around 10:15.  This is a normal dump and not pissing out of my ass dump.  Then sometimes another after lunch around 1pm or so.  When I don't drink coffee and drink an energy drink, I only take my morning dump.  This is usually on the weekends when I want to taste something else besides coffee.

This also happens when I go to Vegas and drink energy drinks in the morning because the coffee line is like 45 min wait. And no multiple dumps like when I drink coffee.

Since I've been CCWing in Hawaii, I have not had the coffee shits at all.  It's like my stomach knows what a PITA it is to reholster. But instead, I do have to now take a dump after work around 3 or so.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2023, 09:44:54 AM »
[snipped -- TMI]

Since I've been CCWing in Hawaii, I have not had the coffee shits at all.  It's like my stomach knows what a PITA it is to reholster. But instead, I do have to now take a dump after work around 3 or so.

Sounds to me like you're nervous about carrying in public here.

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drck1000

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2023, 10:01:39 AM »
Sounds to me like you're nervous about carrying in public here.

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I mean I'm pretty regular, but

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So I always take a dump in the morning at home.  Then again at work around 9, and again around 10:15.

is someone with a lot to unload. . .

changemyoil66

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2023, 10:16:34 AM »
I ordered a Phlster Skelton IWB holster.  For the Shield Plus, not many companies make a holster with no side car that has the clips that I want.  Tier1 only makes sidecar and so does Trex. 

This would be for 4 oclock carry.  So weekends or aloha shirt untucked with slacks (work) or weekends (shorts and t-shirt)

Rocky

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2023, 03:00:04 PM »
T M I  :shake:
Maybe the holster is pressing too hard against your appendix and small colon.  :-\
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RSN172

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2023, 04:48:07 PM »
So a weird phenomenon has taken place.  My shit schedule is like clockwork.  I get the coffee shits only in the morning. When I drink coffee in the afternoon or later, no problem.

So I always take a dump in the morning at home.  Then again at work around 9, and again around 10:15.  This is a normal dump and not pissing out of my ass dump.  Then sometimes another after lunch around 1pm or so.  When I don't drink coffee and drink an energy drink, I only take my morning dump.  This is usually on the weekends when I want to taste something else besides coffee.

This also happens when I go to Vegas and drink energy drinks in the morning because the coffee line is like 45 min wait. And no multiple dumps like when I drink coffee.

Since I've been CCWing in Hawaii, I have not had the coffee shits at all.  It's like my stomach knows what a PITA it is to reholster. But instead, I do have to now take a dump after work around 3 or so.
Thank you for sharing.   If you take 4000 MG of Ibuprofen for 3 days, you won't need to take a dump.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2023, 04:49:59 PM »
Thank you for sharing.   If you take 4000 MG of Ibuprofen for 3 days, you won't need be able to take a dump.

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changemyoil66

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2023, 08:46:06 AM »
Just a FYI, I noticed that many IWB holster makes have a lead time. T1C for my VP9 or Shield Plus is like 6 weeks. The companies tell you up front so you know what to expect.  I ordered a Phlyster Skeleton IWB and it shipped in 2 days.  IDK if other models have no lead time either.

Other companies with lead times for my models Trex Arms, We the People Holsters, LilGat.

drck1000

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2023, 09:18:43 AM »
Just a FYI, I noticed that many IWB holster makes have a lead time. T1C for my VP9 or Shield Plus is like 6 weeks. The companies tell you up front so you know what to expect.  I ordered a Phlyster Skeleton IWB and it shipped in 2 days.  IDK if other models have no lead time either.

Other companies with lead times for my models Trex Arms, We the People Holsters, LilGat.


You already know this, but sharing for those newer to the search.  Some also have quick ship options, which may come with a premium.  Also, the Q/S options can be quite limited. 

There are more mass produced options, like Safariland et al.  However, I have found that companies that specialize in holsters, particularly for CCW have higher quality, design considertions/features, etc.  There's a lot of RDT&E that goes into these holsters, which is why some of them take a while to get holster options for new or less popular firearms.  There are also many shops that will offer custom for whatever.  I have two buddies that do that and they have some pretty good holsters, but it does come with growing pains.  Like a piece of kydex in the wrong spot may seem ok with dry manipulations, but issues show up when live fire. 

changemyoil66

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2023, 08:57:49 AM »
I used the Phlster Skeleton the other night. I carried at my 4 oclock.  This position is good when being seated for a while.  We went to my in-laws for Chinese New Years. So printing wasn't a concern, but comfort is.  Each carry position has it's pro's and cons.  See below:

AIWB:

Pros:

1) More concealable
2) Faster draw
3) Easier draw when seated, esp in the car
4) Better control/retention if someone tries to grab it

Cons:

1) Digs in when seated
2) Digs in a lot when seated for long periods
3) Need to offset belt buckle (not a huge deal, but when buying a belt, the nicenesss of how the buckle looks doesn't matter)
4) When bending over, like tying shoelace or picking something off the floor, it's in the way
5) After a big meal, stomach pushes holster out more

4 O'Clock IWB

Pros:

1) Comfort when seated
2) Ease to pick stuff up (see above con for AIWB)
3) Belly size doesn't really matter
4) Can take a dump quicker (leave gun on belt, compared to AIWB, need to remove entire holster)

Cons:

1) Slower draw
2) More difficult retention if someone tries to grab it
3) Printing more, esp when leaning forward.  Like on a stool eating or at a table game in Vegas
4) Takes much more effort to draw when in a car (seatbelt in the way, driver side) or when seated (you may be sitting on your shirt, which prevents the lifting of it to clear the firearm)
5) No side car on the holster, so spare mag needs to be else where

There might be more, but so far, this is my XP.

changemyoil66

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2023, 09:09:52 AM »
Forgot to add, diff holsters for diff occasions.

Jaco808

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2023, 10:42:30 AM »
Personally I think DeSantis Gunhide Uni-Tuk is the most comfortable.  Not having klydex direct on skin is good.  Little padding and breathability helps. 

Sheppard

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2023, 03:48:37 PM »
for CC i perfer AIWB, its a faster and more concealable draw. for instance, when standing while waiting for someone like family/friends, my hands/arms are usually at my side or in front of me... lending for a concealable and fast draw. Verses strongside carry, when a draw is needed, there is move movement involved.
As for the holster, I like my gun and mag to be separate but still carry AIWB. when driving (sitting), to relieve the pressure, i just shift the holster up, this helps greatly. and when exiting the vehicle or standing from a seated position, I shift the holster(s) down. its pretty common for guys to shft their pants. In regards to comfort from AIWB vs Strongside Carry, Im willing to make those adjustments of reaching down, picking stuff off the ground and deal with lesser comfort of the AIWB....but in both cases, wearing an inner shirt helps a lot with comfort.

changemyoil66

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #53 on: January 24, 2023, 11:54:40 AM »
So I've been noticing the agggresive grip is snagging on my dry fit shirts (sand paper like).  I will try out putting athletic tape around the grip on the side that touches the shirt.  I like the aggressive grips because my palms sweat a lot, so I want to keep some of that.  Or I may wrap the entire grip to see how it feels.  And it's cheap to replace when the white turns brown.

drck1000

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2023, 12:38:29 PM »
So I've been noticing the agggresive grip is snagging on my dry fit shirts (sand paper like).  I will try out putting athletic tape around the grip on the side that touches the shirt.  I like the aggressive grips because my palms sweat a lot, so I want to keep some of that.  Or I may wrap the entire grip to see how it feels.  And it's cheap to replace when the white turns brown.
Try hockey grip tape, vice the fabric athletic tape (like for when you taped ankles). 

changemyoil66

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2023, 12:46:54 PM »
Try hockey grip tape, vice the fabric athletic tape (like for when you taped ankles).

I'll look into that after I try the athletic tape cause I already got a bunch for the gym.

U talking about the 1 inch thick smoother texture hockey grip tape or the 2 inch wide one that looks more textured?

drck1000

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2023, 12:52:52 PM »
I'll look into that after I try the athletic tape cause I already got a bunch for the gym.

U talking about the 1 inch thick smoother texture hockey grip tape or the 2 inch wide one that looks more textured?
Athletic tape (at least the ones I have) get slippery when wet.  No bueno. . . I guess if you have talc with you. . . bruh

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2023, 12:59:20 PM »
i was instructed to always get a full purchase on the grip when drawing.  if you're drawing from a 3 o'clock positioned holster for righty's, your right thumb needs to cover as much of the grip as possible when starting to draw.

This will move the pistol away from the body, allow your thumb to separate the grip from the shirt/skin, and ensure you are less likely to drop the pistol during the draw.

Basically, when you start the draw the grip needs to be your firing grip. 

I have some holsters that are made as high as the grip sitting between the pistol grip and the body.  They have neoprene against the pistol to prevent moisture and sheepskin against the shirt/skin to make it cool and comfortable.  This design protects the firearm from bodily moisture and oils and keeps the pistol from grabbing onto anything beneath it (skin, undershirt, ...).

You may find that you can compensate for a grippy grip by practicing to prevent that problem.  No tape or grip change is going to solve this for everyone in all cases.  But the fundamentals of a well executed draw will eliminate most of these problems in all cases.

i use the softer rubber Talon grips.  i don't like the rough skateboard tape type (granulate).  The rubber ones give a better feel, better grippiness, but don't grab everything it comes into contact with.

YMMV
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changemyoil66

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2023, 01:41:59 PM »


My problem with sweaty palms isn't too bad. I mean its noticable, but it doesn't cause me to drop the gun (like a bar of soap).  But I did notice the follow up shots my grip isn't in the same spot. Which causes more recoil, thus need to take a split second longer when rapid firing. Instead of being locked in tight and mag dumping to your trigger fingers limit. Like the grips on a VP9 or P30 are too smooth for my taste.

Grip strength only goes so far when a slippery substance is introduced (sweat).  I think my grip is stronger than the average person. Due to being able to deadlift a good weight without any strap support. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Official Hawaii CCW Thread
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2023, 02:14:35 PM »

My problem with sweaty palms isn't too bad. I mean its noticable, but it doesn't cause me to drop the gun (like a bar of soap).  But I did notice the follow up shots my grip isn't in the same spot. Which causes more recoil, thus need to take a split second longer when rapid firing. Instead of being locked in tight and mag dumping to your trigger fingers limit. Like the grips on a VP9 or P30 are too smooth for my taste.

Grip strength only goes so far when a slippery substance is introduced (sweat).  I think my grip is stronger than the average person. Due to being able to deadlift a good weight without any strap support.

Grip purchase is as important, if not more so, as grip strength and grip friction.
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