Tactical Pretender?

I think he's missing a few accessories... 

Hell yeah baby...bring ti!

Nice one.  I like the fat tactical kid myself and the BW Motivational saying how AWESOME he is!

Too Cool Hawaii!

I am out!

ONFLOAT - Per your help, I checked out the Face book and webpage site for CCW Hawaii.  It’s well designed!  The designer has a lot of passion to push 2A issues for the great state of Hawaii.  However, what really caught my eye was the lack of comments under each of the displayed topics.  It probably does not mean anything, but maybe folks are just not up to speed with what the author is trying to portray in his targeted audience.  I also noticed they are offering training for first time gun owners.  I wonder if they are in completion with other organization.   I have found others who do almost the exact same thing.  I think the nonprofit organization is called LIFE:  http://lifehawaii.com/LIFE/Handgun.html .  Another program is sponsored by OGC Tactical.  The last one I know of is run by Gun Source.
When I spoke to Tony at Gun Source, they charge 125.00 American and you had to buy ammo from him, and you needed to bring your personal Protective Equipment (PPE) = eyes and ears.  With all of these organizations I wonder why they do not just work together because it seems like they all have to use the same range.  I do not know if CCW Hawaii charges for the instruction, but LIFE charges 120.00 American and provides ammo and guns to use.   I believe OGC charges 125.00 American and you get 25.00 American cash back on a pistol.  Maybe the costs are for worksheets, processing paper work, paying for ammo, using weapons, and etc.  However once again, when we took this similar course in Missouri, it was free, but that was 6 years ago.  Maybe it’s the cost of living that is driving the cost.  I am really confused because LIFE is a nonprofit organization.  Maybe different rules apply to a nonprofit.  I need to do more research since I am considering moving to Hawaii and I want to ensure I am getting the most bang for my bucks.   I also heard that military folks can use a memorandum from our TA/CO to get a firearms permit.  I’ll do more research.
Unfortunately, I wonder what kind of profit is being made with first time gun owners.  This is my opinion and if I meet anyone who has been stationed in Hawaii I’ll ask about it.  Beyond that it would tough to choose which one to go to but I wonder how they utilize the range to accomplish their task.  Once again it’s like the old argument of not having any facilities to train.  We once used the old housing that was scheduled for demolition near Fort Shafter Flats to practice CQB work.  There is a CQB facility on the island, but we could not use it since another unit had it scheduled.
I have gone way off target, so let me get back on track.  I saw some pictures at the bottom of the CCW Hawaii website were the participants were on a static range in the desert.  One of my team mates caught me looking at the picture and he asked me if one of the shooters looked like a man or woman.  I was dumfounded by his discovery.  I will let you all figure it out because I started to question the individual’s sex as well.  I apologize to whoever it is but please so not take it the wrong way.  We got a good laugh, but when you are gone on deployments, the simplest things become funny.  Once again it was like looking at PAT, SNL character, only skinnier who was holding an M4 with a MAGPUL CTR Stock.  It just makes me laugh how many times folks want to emulate real world “Operators”.  Dress up is fine, and there are a lot of fake action guys (FAGs) out there, but when you get pushed in a corner, all you have is your highest level of training to default to.  It is what it is folks.  Imitation is the best form of flattery.

Wow...thats news to me.  Thanks, that was good and humerous find.

Don't know really. Maybe it's just the asian culture I'm thinking. It seems to be a very isolationist attitude.  Take a look at the testimony for bills that went through this year; I bet I am the only "pro" gun one you will find, and I think it was on one of the taser bills supporting alcohol investigators.

That is an Interesting point of view.  Can you expound on what you mean by the Asian Cultures attitudes?  I do not understand.  Please let us know you thoughts.  You seem like a well educated individual, who knows Hawaii State Law.

Wow, I saw a post about local residents applying for their CCW.  Does anyone know how successful  it is at the moment? 

Sound like a smoking deal!

@ren--- stop by RHSC and we should talk about the details for a league.

@tactical pretenders--- RHSC's service and facility speaks for itself. The author of this article was visiting Hawaii on vacation and approached RHSC in likes to publish the article. Over 20 years in the heart of Waikiki serving shooters from all over the world; this is a mere pat-on-the-back to our wonderful staff and management.

Good deal.  As long as the indigenous population of Japan remains restricted to firearms, you will never go out of business. 
“Yeah capitalism!” (Austin Powers)
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Well Ren, I appreciate your honesty, and I suppose it is what it is.  So sorry for your club,  hopefully you guys have recovered.

Ren - you are speaking the truth when it comes to outside instruction.  I do not want to go to into certain programs for OPSEC reasons, but some units are not afforded the opportunity to train with the AMU, because of OPTEMPO and I am referring to "Big Army” missions.  AMU will come down to unit but they can’t be every unfortunately.  We had the opportunity to play with them during one of their coveted 3 gun matches a while ago.  It was humbling.
Carlos Hathcok is an outstand Marine.  He had 93 confirmed kills and taught some of our Marines how to improve their marksmanship capability.  In order for us to get that kind of instruction we have to higher guys like Jeff Gonzales (Trident Concepts), or Larry Vicker (Vicker Tactical) to come out and share their skill sets.  They got smart and started charging the government for their skill sets in my opinion. 
I will tell you how much MAGPULL DYNAMIC wannabes we have encountered over the years.  It takes years and dedication to become a true commando.  Dressing up in kit and buying the latest and great gun will not make you a commando.  Unfortunately, guys play with Barbie too and it’s called guns and tactical gear.  Think about.  If MAGPULL comes out with the next greatest thing we have to buy it.  It’s a behavior but you know what I mean.  I am no different so there it is Brother.
Larry Vickers is a great American and a true "Operator".  We were fortunate to take some instruction from him when he first started his company.  It was a good experience.
I have not been in Hawaii for very long, but I hear that it has its own type of so-called "experts" as well.  Unfortunately, we have them in the mainland as well too. 
I looked up Kaneohe Gun Shop.  I saw the pics of the fells conducting "Team Tactics”.  From a novice point of view it’s really neat to see it come together after a two/three day class.  I really do not know why anyone would teach Infantry Platoon and Squad Tactics 101 (FM 7-8).  It takes time and discipline to build a decent combat unit.  Besides, who you goanna train with after you leave the class, unless you plan to use your family as a fire team.  Unless you have some private land and are in a militia.  Just kidding, but it actually happens.
More Training Please:  Some not so famous weapons instructors use doctrine from FM 7-8 as a way to validate their training methods.   7-8 has picture too so it makes it even easier.  So here’s the rub.  INF unit’s train to act on their own within the limits of the mission and commanders intent.  Non Credible instructor will choreograph the students moments so they do not have to think.  They just react, shoot, complete the team drill. 
The best example of this type of B.S. drill is when an instructor teaches the students to walk in a 90 degree direction while engaging the target from their side.  Yep its technique but it’s not practical.  I could go into more detail but I do not want to boor you to death. 
Bottom Line:  Be careful of instructor who talks too much.  They are stalling and need an audience to fill their ego/time.   If they cannot hit the target on demand then they are not worth your time.  “You tube” helped to create some of these so called “expect instructors”.
Save you money, do your research and try your best to vet the instructor before throwing down some serious coin.  Your time and money isn’t cheap and it is usually never refundable.