Post by: 2aHawaii on December 18, 2009, 10:30:36 AM
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If you want to get a gun in Hawaii you will need a permit to acquire. For handguns, you will need a separate permit for each handgun you wish to purchase. For long guns (rifle or shotguns) you will need to get a single permit which will be valid for one year from the date of issue.
You will need the following documentation prior to completing the application. The application must be completed at the Firearms Section.
1. Valid photo identification.
2. Permit to acquire application.
3. Firearms questionnaire form.
4. Mental health waiver form.
5. Medical Waiver form.
6. Fingerprinting. (First time in-state purchase and $16.50 FBI fingerprinting fee. Bring cash.)
7. Background check. (Background check includes, but is not limited to, warrant checks, local and national arrest history, local and national criminal history, local and national criminal convictions, any pending cases and TRO's.)
8. Hunters education card or a handgun safety training course affidavit. (Handguns only)
9. Proof of U.S citizenship if born outside the United States.
Permit to acquire
The following are needed when applying for a permit to acquire:
1. Valid identification that includes a photograph, such as a driver's license, state identification card, military ID, or United States passport. (You must be 21 years old or older to purchase a firearm.)
2. Complete an application for permit to acquire firearms with specific information, including: Make, Model, Caliber, Type, (revolver, Semiautomatic,etc), Finish, barrel length, and Serial Number.
3. The name, address, and telephone number of the seller.
4. A handgun safety training course affidavit, or hunters education card.
5. Provide proof of United States citizenship, if born outside of the United States, such as a United States passport, naturalization certificate, or birth certificate.
6. If you were convicted of a DUI, you need to bring in a substance abuse assessment from District Court Drivers License Education. (IF counseling was ordered, a medical clearance is also required.)
NOTE: For the long gun permit, you don't need #3 and #4.
You will need to wait 14 days before your permit is approved. After the 14-day waiting period the permit will be valid for only 6 calendar days. Permits not picked up by the 6th day will be voided. Applicants will need to reapply and go through another 14-day waiting period, so please plan accordingly.
Registration
After purchase or acquisition of the firearm return to the HPD Firearms Section no later than 5 calendar days with the following.
1. Valid photo identification.
2. Your original firearms permit.
3. The firearm for inspection.
Complete the firearms registration form and sign the firearms registration card.
There is no 14-day waiting period for out of state registration. Once the firearm arrives in the state you have 3 calendar days to bring it, with valid photo identification and proof of citizenship if born outside the United States, to the HPD Firearms Section.
Honolulu Firearms Registration Hours
Monday-Friday 7:45 am - 4:00 p.m. closed on all state holidays.
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Post by: Rookie808 on March 08, 2010, 11:12:34 PM
Post by: 2aHawaii on March 08, 2010, 11:18:09 PM
The medical waiver form is just sent to your current doctor.
Again, #7 is just another form to fill out.
There are a ton of forms. All you should need to bring in is your ID, Hunters education card or a handgun safety training course affidavit, Proof of U.S citizenship if born outside the United States, and your current doctor's info. Oh, and the money for your fingerprints if this is your first time.
Post by: Rookie808 on March 27, 2010, 03:13:39 PM
Post by: Tom_G on March 27, 2010, 03:32:59 PM
Make
Model
Serial #
barrel length
caliber
[Everything after this sentence, and, indeed, this sentence itself, is a pointless digression]
Now, technically, the only thing that need be registered is the receiver. I've taken the action of a single-shot shotgun down to register. It was fun. the conversation went a little like this:
"What caliber is this?"
"Depends on which barrel I attach. I have several in different calibers, both rifle and shotgun."
pause
"How long is the barrel?"
"depends on which one I attach. Somewhere between 16 and 30 inches."
pause
"Which barrel are you planning on using the most?"
"Um, maybe 12 gauge at 22 inches? That's what I'm taking out this weekend, anyway."
And that's now what the registration slip says. Funny thing is, I decided I didn't like that barrel. That shotgun spends most os its life as a 20 gauge these days.
Post by: Jaydawg on March 27, 2010, 07:52:16 PM
Post by: 2aHawaii on March 27, 2010, 08:54:44 PM
Post by: Redtail on March 27, 2010, 11:29:54 PM
Post by: Jaydawg on March 28, 2010, 06:38:46 AM
Yeah, the hours would be good. Does anyone know them offhand? If not, I'll call and check. I think they are M-F 9-4:30 but will doublecheck.
I tried looking on their website with no luck.
Post by: Redtail on March 28, 2010, 09:18:52 AM
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http://www.honolulupd.org/info/gun-hpd.htmM-F 7:45 am - 4:00 p.m. close on all state holidays.
Post by: Rookie808 on April 21, 2010, 11:20:43 AM
Post by: 2aHawaii on April 21, 2010, 04:43:26 PM
Post by: Antithesis on June 28, 2010, 03:08:54 PM
- Public parking is metered parking in the structure right across from the police station. A quarter is good for ten minutes, a dime covers four minutes and a nickel a measly 2 minutes so bring at least $1.50 in quarters to cover your parking.
-If you happened to not bring exact change for the fingerprinting, (or you spent all your change feeding the aforementioned parking meter ;D ) there is a small candy/snack shop on the left hand side of the metal detector entrance. Just go there and buy candy to break any large bill you may have brought with you. The lady there is a bit grumpy from always making change.
- It was said in other threads, but it's worth mentioning here: the registration office is still opened on furlough Fridays, however it only has one guy running the window so processing will be slower. Plan accordingly.
Post by: 2aHawaii on June 28, 2010, 04:11:31 PM
There is also parking in front of the station. If you are lucky enough to get that, it is a quarter for 20 minutes.
Post by: Antithesis on June 28, 2010, 10:14:03 PM
Post by: stegosaurus on August 03, 2010, 11:12:59 PM
So, just to double check... I don't need to visit the doctor for the mental health and medical waiver forms before applying at HPD? What if I currently don't have medical coverage? Also, will it cost me anything to get these waiver forms? Does the background check cost anything? Lastly, I do have a DUI on my record from 6 years ago. Does anyone know where I can obtain the substance abuse assessment and medical clearance forms?
Once again, sorry for all the questions. I work two jobs so it's hard for me to find time to go downtown. I just want to make sure I have everything ready before hand so I don't have to take too many days off from work.
Thank you so much in advance!
Post by: Tom_G on August 04, 2010, 12:01:10 AM
I apologize ahead of time for the many questions I'm about to ask (noobie here :wave: )
So, just to double check... I don't need to visit the doctor for the mental health and medical waiver forms before applying at HPD? What if I currently don't have medical coverage? Also, will it cost me anything to get these waiver forms? Does the background check cost anything? Lastly, I do have a DUI on my record from 6 years ago. Does anyone know where I can obtain the substance abuse assessment and medical clearance forms?
Once again, sorry for all the questions. I work two jobs so it's hard for me to find time to go downtown. I just want to make sure I have everything ready before hand so I don't have to take too many days off from work.
Thank you so much in advance!
No need to apologize. It's a confusing system.
You are not required to have a doctor. Saying "I don't have a doctor" is an acceptable answer, so long as it is true.
All the forms are provided by HPD, free of charge. They'll hand them to you when you go to apply.
You will need to take proof of identification. I took my DL, state ID, passport, and SoSec card as well. They scrutinized every bit of it, even though it was "above and beyond."
The very first time you go, you will be charged for the FBI background check. Only the first time. Last time I checked, that was $19.25. Take cash, exact change. Also take a handful of quarters to feed the parking meters.
Your DUI is a bugger. You probably had to undergo some form of counseling as a result. What you need is a letter from that counselor, or from a local professional, saying you are no longer adversely affected. Don't bother visiting HPD until you get that taken care of. And be sure to take a copy of that clearance letter with you every time you return.
If you are applying to acquire a handgun, you will also need proof that you've taken an approved form of safety instruction.
Post by: stegosaurus on August 04, 2010, 05:09:19 PM
Division of Driver Education
American Savings Bank Tower
1001 Bishop St., Suite 555
Hon., HI 96813
(808) 534-6400
Must bring an ID. They will issue the clearance form to you free of charge. The form is good for 6 mos.
Post by: stegosaurus on August 04, 2010, 11:04:01 PM
Post by: Antithesis on August 05, 2010, 08:24:49 AM
Post by: bccs22 on August 05, 2010, 11:48:07 AM
I have a few questions, maybe someone can help me with.
Is it legal for an individual to purchase a firearm from another individual in HI? Like a private party sale. I realize that permits must be obtained and the firearm must be registered. Do all transfers have to go thru a licensed FFA dealer? I'm from a state where private party transactions (under a certain quantity annually) are legal, and I'm wondering what it's like in Hawaii. Let's say I move there, and bring over a firearm (legally, registered, with permit) and I decide to sell it (say I need the money) can I sell it to an individual or does it have to go to a dealer?
Also, are AR-15s on the no-no list there? Or is it just a matter of the size of the magazine?
Thanks for any assistance.
Post by: 2aHawaii on August 05, 2010, 01:31:17 PM
Private sales are perfectly legal in Hawaii, with a few caveats. Handgun purchases still need a 14 day waiting period before being transferred. For long gun purchases, usually the buyer will bring along their long gun permit (needed for it to be legal) or do the transfer right at the police station. So just as long as the buyer has a valid permit, everything is GTG.
AR-15's are on the yes-yes list :) (almost everyone has one). The size of the magazine does matter according to most people. Keep it maxed at 10-rds to be on the safe side.
If you have anymore questions, I'd be glad to answer them.
Post by: bccs22 on August 05, 2010, 01:49:44 PM
I do have another question. A friend of mine moved to HI a while back and left me with one of his rifles (and alot of other crap still sitting in my storage unit; he couldnt take everything). Now I'm going to move out there. Can I bring his rifle with me and give it to him when I get there? I'm told I have to declare it with the airline, and then take it to the PD within X amount of time. Can I just turn it over to him and he can take it to the PD since he's going to have possession of it thereafter? Or is the PD going to be expecting me to check-in myself since I declared it? I want to make sure whatever I do is legal and I damn sure dont want to be in any trouble. If you have any idea, please let me know what you think. Or if you think there are any other better options to get it to him, otherwise he just has to get it himself the next time he comes back to visit.
Thanks again.
Post by: 2aHawaii on August 05, 2010, 02:19:08 PM
He could also send it to himself if he were in the same state as you. It is legal to send yourself firearms in the mail as long as you are the sender and recipient. I think the first way is a better option :)
Post by: Tom_G on August 05, 2010, 06:46:03 PM
Now, when he takes it to HPD, they will ask him its origin. All he needs to say is "It's my gun, I just brought it in from out of state." Technically, he doesn't even need a permit in order to register guns brought in from out of state, whether they are old acquisitions or bought the day before. HPS will ask him for his permit, but the magic words to repeat are "out of state."
Post by: stegosaurus on August 16, 2010, 08:05:30 PM
Post by: Heavies on August 24, 2010, 04:11:28 AM
Post by: Tom_G on August 24, 2010, 07:32:35 AM
Do I need t do all the paperwork over again, wait the 14 days, and go back to get the permit?
Yes. Take your old permit with you when you go, it will speed things up. The only thing you won't have to do the second time is get fingerprinted. Also, make sure you wait until 14 days before the old permit expires. If you show up 15 days before it expires, they will refuse to process you.
(otherwise I would have more! ;) )
You have no idea how sad that statement makes me. Hawaii's laws were designed to be "humbug" to discourage gun ownership. You're the first person I've heard articulate so clearly "it works."
Post by: 2aHawaii on August 24, 2010, 09:03:12 AM
On the positive side, it hasn't affected me :)
Post by: Heavies on August 24, 2010, 03:50:32 PM
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Also, make sure you wait until 14 days before the old permit expires. If you show up 15 days before it expires, they will refuse to process you.This ticks me off. I mean you already have the permit to acquire so what the heck is the point of waiting 14 days? !More trips downtown! >:(
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You have no idea how sad that statement makes me. Hawaii's laws were designed to be "humbug" to discourage gun ownership. You're the first person I've heard articulate so clearly "it works."I know it is really sad. I know many people that don't buy handguns or do not get another one because of the time involved. :( Lots of folks are unable to take multiple days off of work to get all the issues straight with HPD; waiting in the long lines, and, for some, a long drive to town in the middle of the week.
The system does what it is intended to do. Keep handguns out of the hands of hard working, law abiding, citizens.
The liberal, gun hating, law makers fail to realize that criminals don't have to go through a background check, fingerprinting, a fourteen day waiting period, and three trips downtown to get a handgun.
All we can do is try to vote these dingbats out of office.
Post by: Old Guy on October 22, 2010, 06:21:50 PM
I think HPD knows me by my first name by now.
All the more reason why HRA Needs more members who are registered Voters.
So bad laws can be overturned and changed.
Get your friends registered to vote for their guns.
Post by: Exactice808 on February 17, 2011, 09:25:12 AM
This is about renewing an expired permit, and what is required:
My Rifle and Pistol Permits expired. I already have weapons registered and would like to currently purchase some new ones. Now from another forums it seems that I just need to go down there with my old permits and register and wait out the 14 days and be done with it. Others say I need to show all my documents including my Hunters Ed waiver. Which I just cant seem to locate. Now I would hope that they have it on file but if they dont, does that mean I have to do it all over again (take the Hunters Ed, or get the waiver from my commander)? Problem is Im out of the military now so no access to my commander.
Lastly its been a while but I do have my Instructor Certs when I was teach for a government contract 07-08 but do I need to get an affidavit for it? Or can I just bring those down.
Basically, Im just hoping that I can go down there and renew the permits without having to go to another class or have to contact my commander whom I dont have access to anyway =/
thank you so much in advance!
Post by: 2asupport on February 18, 2011, 08:07:52 AM
Exactice wants to know if he needs to bring in his old handgun cert that he misplaced. he has already bought and registered handguns in HI.
Post by: 2aHawaii on February 18, 2011, 08:14:34 AM
I don't think I had to reshow my pistol course docs, but my long gun permit also wasn't expired.
As long as you aren't taking a day off of work to go down there or travel across the island, I would just make the trip. You could also call the firearms unit at (808) 529-3371.
Sorry I don't have much more info, but maybe someone else can chime in with their experience.
Post by: 2asupport on February 18, 2011, 09:05:04 AM
expired handgun permit isnt even an issue as everyone's handgun permit to acquire expires after the gun is registered. So when you say you have expired handgun permit you're not alone, everyones is expired.
I have not had to show a handgun certification after the first time. best bet, call the number above :shaka:
Post by: Exactice808 on February 18, 2011, 09:25:47 AM
thats where the confusion is, even if your longgun permit expires you dont need any sort of certification to obtain one, its a permit to acquire not a permit to own. even if it expires you just apply for a new one, no classes, no pay.
expired handgun permit isnt even an issue as everyone's handgun permit to acquire expires after the gun is registered. So when you say you have expired handgun permit you're not alone, everyones is expired.
I have not had to show a handgun certification after the first time. best bet, call the number above :shaka:
Thank you Gentlemen! Im slapping my head, I just realized that too LOL...The Long gun permit is no problem its the Pistol permit. Its for 1 time use only =/. So every time you gotta "re-register" when you purchase another pistol! DOH!
OK well i called them but I couldnt get through...Im going to go down and find out but it sounds like if you registered once then you just have the appropriate weapons info and ID and I should be good to go *Fingers crossed*
Thank you all and I will let you know what I find out!!!
Post by: Heavies on February 18, 2011, 10:29:03 PM
thats where the confusion is, even if your longgun permit expires you dont need any sort of certification to obtain one, its a permit to acquire not a permit to own. even if it expires you just apply for a new one, no classes, no pay.
expired handgun permit isnt even an issue as everyone's handgun permit to acquire expires after the gun is registered. So when you say you have expired handgun permit you're not alone, everyones is expired.
I have not had to show a handgun certification after the first time. best bet, call the number above :shaka:
Thank you Gentlemen! Im slapping my head, I just realized that too LOL...The Long gun permit is no problem its the Pistol permit. Its for 1 time use only =/. So every time you gotta "re-register" when you purchase another pistol! DOH!
OK well i called them but I couldnt get through...Im going to go down and find out but it sounds like if you registered once then you just have the appropriate weapons info and ID and I should be good to go *Fingers crossed*
Thank you all and I will let you know what I find out!!!
That's the hard part. Sometime the guys at the PD don't even know the rules! So many inconsistancies! :P
Post by: Exactice808 on February 22, 2011, 02:14:12 PM
So Long gun is no problem, but pistol. They said I need to bring everything in to get my pistol registered, Even though Im registered already and I have weapons on file. They do not keep any documents on file so make sure you hold on to those tight and keep it near. So no joy to just going down their with your ID and Weapon info. You gotta have your Certs/Affidavits with you......Damn.....
Post by: hanabataz57 on February 22, 2011, 02:23:07 PM
I'm new to the forum, and am thinking about acquiring my first firearms as well. I just wanted to get some things clarified.
1. According to an earlier post, I can still get a Permit to Acquire even if I don't have a doctor?
2. I plan on buying 2 rifles, one on Oahu for now and one on the Big Island later for when I go back home for vacation. For now I only know which rifle I will be getting on Oahu, but haven't made up my mind for the other. When initially applying for the permit do you need to provide information for all rifles you plan on acquiring?
Mahalos!
Post by: Dregs on February 22, 2011, 02:27:01 PM
Post by: Alaskana on February 22, 2011, 08:14:44 PM
What rifles are you looking for? Also, first firearm or experienced?
Post by: Funtimes on February 24, 2011, 05:21:32 PM
Aloha Everyone,
I'm new to the forum, and am thinking about acquiring my first firearms as well. I just wanted to get some things clarified.
1. According to an earlier post, I can still get a Permit to Acquire even if I don't have a doctor?
2. I plan on buying 2 rifles, one on Oahu for now and one on the Big Island later for when I go back home for vacation. For now I only know which rifle I will be getting on Oahu, but haven't made up my mind for the other. When initially applying for the permit do you need to provide information for all rifles you plan on acquiring?
Mahalos!
Pretty sure your permit is only good here, you would have to get another permit on the BI imo.
Post by: Heavies on February 24, 2011, 07:48:51 PM
If I'm not mistaken I do not think you need a doctor. I think, I've heard that, if you do not have a doctor just tell them, and it is done with. Do not lie about it though, if you have one on the BI (or wherever) then list that one. You will need the doctor's office address and phone number. They do call and verify; what questions they ask the doc, I do not know.
If they catch you lying about these kinds of things, then that's a good excuse for them to take away your rights!
Not saying that you are, but just saying.. ;D
This is just what I've heard, so please take it with a grain of salt. Best to call up the firearms section and ask about it first. I would hate you to have to make the trip down there, in traffic, pay parking, and wait in line, only for them to tell you, 'you don't have all your ducks in a row'.
Hopefully, if enough of 'us' get things together we can dispense with all this red tape BS. Then our rights will be restored!
Good Luck! :shaka:
Post by: Funtimes on February 25, 2011, 12:50:51 AM
Technically, if your doctor did disclose information, you could sue his ass if he disclosed without a warrant or authorization waiver.
Post by: Aegis808 on August 25, 2011, 07:36:38 PM
1. Do i have to bring in my firearms to the main department down in Honolulu or can i just take it into my local station in Hawaii Kai?
2. Will the HPD start freaking out about my rifles with folding stocks and try to confiscate them from me?
Post by: 2aHawaii on August 25, 2011, 08:22:11 PM
All registration has to be done at the main police station's firearms registration office. As for the folding stocks, you will be okay as long as it's not an SBR.
Post by: Aegis808 on August 25, 2011, 08:54:14 PM
Post by: vooduchikn on August 25, 2011, 09:04:11 PM
Hey Aegis,
All registration has to be done at the main police station's firearms registration office. As for the folding stocks, you will be okay as long as it's not an SBR.
I have rifles with folding stocks. Just make sure they meet HWI requirements....even if the requirements suck.
Post by: crazy cat on August 28, 2011, 04:53:40 PM
Post by: gottasurf on October 14, 2011, 01:14:37 PM
I want to register a long rifle, .22 caliber rifle that I got from my dad when he passed away. I didn't have too much contact with him, so I got it when I was cleaning up his room. Anyways, I don't know if this thing is even registered in his name or anything.
So I figured first step is to get a permit to acquire.
But, I'm confused about this part, regarding instructions for permit to acquire: "8. Hunters education card or a handgun safety training course affidavit. (Handguns only)"
So do I need to sign up for the hunters education class? Or is this just needed to register handguns, which I don't have any. Oh, I'm not military either.
Thanks for the help.
Post by: vooduchikn on October 14, 2011, 01:24:19 PM
At least parking is free on the Big Island.
Its free here too if you don't put coins in the meters.... :thumbsup:
Post by: 2aHawaii on October 14, 2011, 01:45:54 PM
Sorry I'm a total noobie. Got a couple questions.
I want to register a long rifle, .22 caliber rifle that I got from my dad when he passed away. I didn't have too much contact with him, so I got it when I was cleaning up his room. Anyways, I don't know if this thing is even registered in his name or anything.
So I figured first step is to get a permit to acquire.
But, I'm confused about this part, regarding instructions for permit to acquire: "8. Hunters education card or a handgun safety training course affidavit. (Handguns only)"
So do I need to sign up for the hunters education class? Or is this just needed to register handguns, which I don't have any. Oh, I'm not military either.
Thanks for the help.
Hi gottasurf, welcome to the forums.
It sounds like you are in quite a predicament. I am a little fuzzy on the in-between steps but you won't need a permit to acquire the rifle as long as the gun became yours on his death. I'm not exactly sure how you will need to show that he died and that you inherited the rifle, but I do believe that will need to be shown to register it. Maybe some of the others here know some more information and can help fill in the blanks.
If you wish to acquire more firearms in the future, a permit to acquire will be required for that. The hunters ed or handgun safety class will only be needed if you want to acquire a handgun.
I hope that helps a little.
Post by: Foxen on October 14, 2011, 01:54:20 PM
Sorry I'm a total noobie. Got a couple questions.
I want to register a long rifle, .22 caliber rifle that I got from my dad when he passed away. I didn't have too much contact with him, so I got it when I was cleaning up his room. Anyways, I don't know if this thing is even registered in his name or anything.
So I figured first step is to get a permit to acquire.
But, I'm confused about this part, regarding instructions for permit to acquire: "8. Hunters education card or a handgun safety training course affidavit. (Handguns only)"
So do I need to sign up for the hunters education class? Or is this just needed to register handguns, which I don't have any. Oh, I'm not military either.
Thanks for the help.
I'm a near total noob myself...and I just went through a similar process...
HPD/Our State treats Long Arms and Handguns differently...
For longarms you need a "Permit to Acquire" Long Arms, which is like $19.25 or something and HPD wants cash exact change usually. The permit lasts you for one year and you can acquire "as many" long arms as you want with that one permit. If you're on Oahu, go down to HPD... park either in front (metered on Beretania) or in back (metered but more expensive meter)... when you walk up, TURN RIGHT (before the metal detectors, it's like right outside) and there's an office there for Firearms. Once you get past the door, there's a smaller room in the back...just wait in line until you are called. They'll take care of you from there. All you need is your ID...like Driver's license or something. They will ask about your hospital and your insurance for the mental check etc. and they'll run background on you and fingerprint you. They should have your Longarm permit ready in two weeks....you just go by and pick it up.
As long as you are 21 or over and have your ID, you can get the Longarm Permit. You don't need to take a firearm's safety class to get that Longarm Permit.
If you wish to purchase a handgun, that's when you need to take the safety class. And you need to get a permit PER handgun...
http://www.honolulupd.org/info/gunlaw.htm (http://www.honolulupd.org/info/gunlaw.htm)
Now as to your father's rifle...
First, although I can't find it on the HPD site but I know it's out there... if your father acquired the .22 rifle BEFORE 1994 (or something like that) before mandatory registration was necessary, it's legal, just an unregistered firearm. I recently purchased a .22 rifle from a guy who said something to the effect that the gun wasn't registered and if I "wanted to" I could register it with HPD... he then wrote down his info for HPD. I was almost tempted to not register it but by the law, since I am acquiring the firearm AFTER 1994, I should register it...and hence I did with no problems. Again, It's in the books somewhere, and I read it recently, just can't find it on the fly... and this exception does NOT apply to handguns I think.
HPD Faqs page about transfering firearms from deceased.
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How can I obtain a firearm from someone who is deceased?
If the person wanting to acquire the firearm(s) is a family member, obtain a notarized statement from the Executor of the estate transferring the firearms to that next of kin, immediate family members only.
If the person acquiring the firearm(s) is not an immediate family member, the Executor of the estate will need to obtain permits for themselves first, then transfer the firearms in their own name. Once that is accomplished, the Executor can then transfer the firearm(s) to another party.
Or, the transfer will need to go through a firearms dealer.
http://www.honolulupd.org/info/gun_faq.htm (http://www.honolulupd.org/info/gun_faq.htm)
Anyhow, hope this helps. Let me know if you need help with the executor and the statement etc.
Post by: gottasurf on October 17, 2011, 11:39:38 PM
I live on Oahu, so will go to HPD.
So I don't plan to buy or purchase any other rifle or gun, I just want to register or transfer the one from my dad.
I think I'm the Executor of the Estate since I'm the only child and everything went to me in his will. Do I need to show the will to HPD, or death certificate?
Thanks.
Post by: Foxen on October 18, 2011, 12:35:53 PM
Thanks, 2aHawaii and Foxen,
I live on Oahu, so will go to HPD.
So I don't plan to buy or purchase any other rifle or gun, I just want to register or transfer the one from my dad.
I think I'm the Executor of the Estate since I'm the only child and everything went to me in his will. Do I need to show the will to HPD, or death certificate?
Thanks.
Step one... get your longarm permit from HPD.
Step two... call HPD's firearm division and ask them if the gun was previously registered to your father. Provide father's name (legal name), maybe birthdate, SSN, and the gun's make, model, and serial number.
Step three... draft a notorized letter (it's easy), and make copies of your father's will, death certificate, and possibly obituary from a newspaper (the last is to show that you are his successor)...
For the notorized note, well, I can help you with something later... the more I look at it the more complex it's getting... it probably does not need to be SO complex but my mind is all twisted these days. It's basically a short letter stating that you, as the executor, am transfering the firearm, in accordance to the will of your father, to his heir, yourself... and you have a signature, printed name, and date for the executor (you), for the tranferee (you), and a section for the notary public (signature, printed name, title: Notary Public, State of Hawaii, and a My commission expires:_____). If all is good, get it notarize (bank is good, usually charges like less than $5 if you are a member there, or$5 at the USPS store or etc. Call ahead...there are TONS of Notary Publics around...but I'd go with bank first. Bring your picture ID.
Step four... with the notarized letter, the copies of the will, dc, and obit, the firearm in a gun case or box, head to HPD and register the firearm. Same place where you get your longarm permit.
Hopefully the firearm is actually your dad's and is either already registered under his name or it's not in the system. Otherwise you may have problems like if it's under someone else's name...
Other than that... shouldn't be a problem. Anyhow, if you want more help, PM me your e-mail or something, and I can try help you out. This gets my feet wet in learning all this stuff...and I don't mind doing it.
Post by: k_h on November 14, 2011, 07:10:29 PM
Thank again.
Post by: 42itus on November 14, 2011, 10:04:36 PM
Hi new here to forum but jus double checking hours for the firearms unit for registering a long rifle. Is it still M-F? I'm looking to go next week monday (21 nov). HPD's website isn't the friendliest on hours of operation.
Thank again.
I think it's M-F 8-430, but there's a number you can call if you look here.
http://www.honolulupd.org/info/gun-hpd.htm (http://www.honolulupd.org/info/gun-hpd.htm)
Post by: k_h on November 14, 2011, 10:07:19 PM
Hi new here to forum but jus double checking hours for the firearms unit for registering a long rifle. Is it still M-F? I'm looking to go next week monday (21 nov). HPD's website isn't the friendliest on hours of operation.
Thank again.
I think it's M-F 8-430, but there's a number you can call if you look here.
http://www.honolulupd.org/info/gun-hpd.htm (http://www.honolulupd.org/info/gun-hpd.htm)
Thanks.. that was my next step tomorrow is to give HPD a call but thought I'd ask since i was searching tonight before calling tomorrow.
Thanks again.
Post by: localboy on December 19, 2011, 10:51:54 PM
Quick question, someone told me that if I buy a handgun from a gun friendly state in the mainland like Texas that I don't need to go to the safety course when I come back to Hawaii. I just need to register the handgun within 72 hours. Is this true? Thanks again!
Post by: k_h on December 19, 2011, 11:26:15 PM
Hi, new to the forums
Quick question, someone told me that if I buy a handgun from a gun friendly state in the mainland like Texas that I don't need to go to the safety course when I come back to Hawaii. I just need to register the handgun within 72 hours. Is this true? Thanks again!
Yes true.
Post by: vooduchikn on December 19, 2011, 11:38:53 PM
Hi, new to the forums
Quick question, someone told me that if I buy a handgun from a gun friendly state in the mainland like Texas that I don't need to go to the safety course when I come back to Hawaii. I just need to register the handgun within 72 hours. Is this true? Thanks again!
Yes true.
+100 absolutely true. If you have questions or concerns, call me, 8083980087
Post by: Jaydawg on March 20, 2012, 01:30:21 PM
Is HPD a stickler for having a flag to indicate an empty & safe firearm?
Post by: Kingkeoni on March 20, 2012, 02:04:38 PM
Registering a firearm with no bolt hold open feature (such as an AK) question.
Is HPD a stickler for having a flag to indicate an empty & safe firearm?
No, theyre not sticklers, but I always put something in there so they know that the firearm is safe.
I register a lot of AK's. :geekdanc:
Post by: Jaydawg on March 20, 2012, 02:52:34 PM
No, theyre not sticklers, but I always put something in there so they know that the firearm is safe.
I register a lot of AK's. :geekdanc:
Thanks KK. I'm just going to "put the nozzle in the box" rack a couple times and pull the trigger. ;D
(for those of you reading this 2 years from now...it is a reference to a picture....probably long gone.)
Post by: GZire on March 20, 2012, 03:17:13 PM
Thanks KK. I'm just going to "put the nozzle in the box" rack a couple times and pull the trigger. ;D
(for those of you reading this 2 years from now...it is a reference to a picture....probably long gone.)
Just stick an empty case in the ejection port.
Post by: Kingkeoni on March 20, 2012, 03:29:59 PM
Thanks KK. I'm just going to "put the nozzle in the box" rack a couple times and pull the trigger. ;D
(for those of you reading this 2 years from now...it is a reference to a picture....probably long gone.)
If you stick your nozzle in the box, you'll be arrested for lewd and lascivious behavior.
Post by: Kingkeoni on March 20, 2012, 03:32:10 PM
Thanks KK. I'm just going to "put the nozzle in the box" rack a couple times and pull the trigger. ;D
(for those of you reading this 2 years from now...it is a reference to a picture....probably long gone.)
Just stick an empty case in the ejection port.
Huh?
Definitely do not stick an empty case in the action while registering the firearm.
Stick a flag or pen or something else in there.
Post by: GZire on March 21, 2012, 10:18:09 AM
Post by: Kingkeoni on March 21, 2012, 11:10:45 AM
What is wrong with sticking an empty case in the ejection port? (but yes I would use a flag since I have flags, but not many people have bought flags for their firearms)
Nothing wrong with it, except for while registering a rifle at HPD firearms.
I know I wouldn't want to see a cartridge case in a firearm. They wouldnt know if it was loaded or unloaded. It would just be an invitation for trouble, IMHO.
Post by: GZire on March 21, 2012, 03:36:19 PM
Nothing wrong with it, except for while registering a rifle at HPD firearms.
I know I wouldn't want to see a cartridge case in a firearm. They wouldnt know if it was loaded or unloaded. It would just be an invitation for trouble, IMHO.
With the case sticking out of the ejection port, it's pretty easy to tell if there's a cartridge loaded in the rifle. ???
Post by: kavawava on March 21, 2012, 04:16:59 PM
I know that long guns must be re-registered once a year. Do I have to re-register my handgun once a year too?
Post by: Kingkeoni on March 21, 2012, 04:17:34 PM
Ok, I was skimming this thread to make sure I know all the rules, but just wanted to clarify something.
I know that long guns must be re-registered once a year. Do I have to re-register my handgun once a year too?
No, just once
Post by: Kingkeoni on March 21, 2012, 04:19:58 PM
Ok, I was skimming this thread to make sure I know all the rules, but just wanted to clarify something.
I know that long guns must be re-registered once a year. Do I have to re-register my handgun once a year too?
Long guns don't need to be re registered once a year either.
You only need to register them once.
What you do once a year is to renew your annual permit to acquire.
With your long gun permit, you're allowed to purchase as many rifles and shotguns as you want and when you buy a rifle or shotgun, you take it to HPD firearms and register it with them. (one time only)
Post by: kavawava on March 21, 2012, 05:17:38 PM
Sorry my word choice was incorrect here. What I meant was "renew" permit.
So my handguns, "ideally," never have to go back to HPD then, correct?
Post by: Kingkeoni on March 21, 2012, 05:25:23 PM
So my handguns, "ideally," never have to go back to HPD then, correct?
Only once. The day you pick it up, just go and register it then you're done until the end of time or when you sell it locally.
A handgun permit to acquire is obtained on the specific handgun you purchase at that given time. There is no "blanket" permit like the long gun permit.
I wish they would change that policy and make just one permit to acquire firearms, combining pistols, rifles and shotguns, annually renewed.
Post by: GZire on March 21, 2012, 05:34:44 PM
Only once. The day you pick it up, just go and register it then you're done until the end of time or when you sell it locally.
A handgun permit to acquire is obtained on the specific handgun you purchase at that given time. There is no "blanket" permit like the long gun permit.
I wish they would change that policy and make just one permit to acquire firearms, combining pistols, rifles and shotguns, annually renewed.
That would be (more) ideal, too easy, and make too much sense for Hawaii.
Post by: kavawava on March 21, 2012, 05:46:28 PM
Only once. The day you pick it up, just go and register it then you're done until the end of time or when you sell it locally.
A handgun permit to acquire is obtained on the specific handgun you purchase at that given time. There is no "blanket" permit like the long gun permit.
I wish they would change that policy and make just one permit to acquire firearms, combining pistols, rifles and shotguns, annually renewed.
Awesome, thanks KK!
:shaka:
Post by: ScRubbage on March 31, 2012, 11:45:05 AM
Mahalo
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Post by: fstbckgt on May 14, 2012, 03:43:26 PM
Post by: numbertwo on May 14, 2012, 05:56:46 PM
This was for my long gun permit btw
Post by: fstbckgt on May 14, 2012, 07:20:49 PM
Post by: numbertwo on May 15, 2012, 02:33:02 PM
Lets say I have my handgun safety class certification and I'm about to apply for my hand gun permit. Will I need to wait another 2 weeks for to get the hand gun permit even if they did it already within the same month for my long gun permit?
I know that I'll have to renew my long gun permit annually, will I have to do the same with my handgun permit? and will I have to wait 2 weeks again when I renew both/either one?
Thank you
Post by: DuckFat on May 15, 2012, 02:46:47 PM
I'll be able to pick up my long gun permit next week.Acquiring a handgun is a different process. You have to apply for a permit for each handgun you wish to acquire. Here's the quick and dirty on a handgun purchase after you get your affidavit.
Lets say I have my handgun safety class certification and I'm about to apply for my hand gun permit. Will I need to wait another 2 weeks for to get the hand gun permit even if they did it already within the same month for my long gun permit?
I know that I'll have to renew my long gun permit annually, will I have to do the same with my handgun permit? and will I have to wait 2 weeks again when I renew both/either one?
Thank you
1) Take affidavit and ID to gun store, buy handgun
2) Take affidavit, ID, and info on handgun from the store to firearms division to apply for permit
3) Wait 2 weeks
4) Pick up permit from firearms division
5) Go to store with permit and pick up gun
6) Take gun back to police station to register
More detailed explanation in the first post of this thread
http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=222.msg770#msg770 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=222.msg770#msg770)
You have to wait 2 weeks for every permit regardless of when you got your last one. If you intend to pick up more than one handgun I would suggest buying them all at the same time so you can apply for the permits all at once.
You might also find this thread on excessive gun buying interesting :thumbsup:
http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=3338.0 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=3338.0)
Post by: bass monkey on May 15, 2012, 04:50:07 PM
Post by: DuckFat on May 15, 2012, 04:53:12 PM
Ho Shit just realized I was sippose to pick up my long gun permit this week. How long do you have to pick up the permit, 1 week or 2?I think it's 5 calendar days? Definitely not 2 weeks.
Post by: fstbckgt on May 15, 2012, 05:09:13 PM
Post by: bass monkey on May 15, 2012, 05:45:12 PM
Post by: numbertwo on May 16, 2012, 09:33:37 AM
Acquiring a handgun is a different process. You have to apply for a permit for each handgun you wish to acquire. Here's the quick and dirty on a handgun purchase after you get your affidavit.
1) Take affidavit and ID to gun store, buy handgun
2) Take affidavit, ID, and info on handgun from the store to firearms division to apply for permit
3) Wait 2 weeks
4) Pick up permit from firearms division
5) Go to store with permit and pick up gun
6) Take gun back to police station to register
More detailed explanation in the first post of this thread
http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=222.msg770#msg770 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=222.msg770#msg770)
You have to wait 2 weeks for every permit regardless of when you got your last one. If you intend to pick up more than one handgun I would suggest buying them all at the same time so you can apply for the permits all at once.
You might also find this thread on excessive gun buying interesting :thumbsup:
http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=3338.0 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=3338.0)
Ah I get it now. That was easier to understand, I was getting confused with a different explanation.
If I'm on step 4. After the 2 weeks do I still have only XX amount calendar days to pick that up too before having to reapply?
As for the long gun, let me just see if I understand it correctly.
1) Apply for permit at HPD
2) Wait 2 weeks
3) Pick up permit from HPD
4) Take permit and buy a rifle or shotgun
5) Bring permit, and new long gun to HPD to register
6) Happy shooting?
Post by: numbertwo on May 16, 2012, 09:39:15 AM
They could at least open for half day on saturday just for picking up permits!
I read through the excessive thread before posting here. I doubt I'd ever be considered an excessive buyer. One word = Wife. LOL
thanks for you for the links and info btw
Post by: DuckFat on May 16, 2012, 09:59:34 AM
Ah I get it now. That was easier to understand, I was getting confused with a different explanation.Yes, the permit is only valid for ~5 days once available for pick up. They have a calendar on the wall to show you pick up dates based on your application date so you can ask them for verification. If you don't pick it up within that time frame it will expire and you will have to reapply and wait another 2 weeks.
If I'm on step 4. After the 2 weeks do I still have only XX amount calendar days to pick that up too before having to reapply?
As for the long gun, let me just see if I understand it correctly.You got it :thumbsup:
1) Apply for permit at HPD
2) Wait 2 weeks
3) Pick up permit from HPD
4) Take permit and buy a rifle or shotgun don't forget your ID
5) Bring permit, and new long gun to HPD to register
6) Happy shooting?
BTW the days and hours they're open is CRAP. I can't go before or after work! I'd have to call in sick or take a day off!Yup, that's the C&C for you. Taking a day off isn't so bad. You can get all the registration process done and then go to Koko Head :geekdanc:
Post by: GreenStomper on May 16, 2012, 03:52:08 PM
. Taking a day off isn't so bad. You can get all the registration process done and then go to Koko Head :geekdanc:
You have to complete step # 6).....
Post by: GreenStomper on May 17, 2012, 11:04:03 AM
Post by: DuckFat on May 17, 2012, 11:26:07 AM
Post by: GreenStomper on May 17, 2012, 12:04:20 PM
Post by: WCMTWS on May 17, 2012, 12:21:12 PM
Post by: GreenStomper on May 17, 2012, 01:00:13 PM
Post by: DuckFat on May 17, 2012, 01:01:21 PM
Correct me if Im wrong here, I thought all firearms had to be registered within the 72hr. arrival time.That's for when you bring in guns from out of state. However, firearms manufactured before 1899 and black powder guns don't need to be registered. If you buy a gun here then I believe you have 5 days after you pick it up.
Post by: numbertwo on June 16, 2012, 06:00:38 PM
I know I need to bring a marriage certificate but does the wife still need to be there? Is there a way to have my wife there instead of the certificate lol? We didn't get the cert yet hence the silly question even though I pretty much know the answer.
Post by: Kingkeoni on June 16, 2012, 06:47:44 PM
What about registering joint for a handgun?
I know I need to bring a marriage certificate but does the wife still need to be there? Is there a way to have my wife there instead of the certificate lol? We didn't get the cert yet hence the silly question even though I pretty much know the answer.
The answer is... Don't put her on your gun registrations.
Let her get her own.
Post by: numbertwo on June 16, 2012, 07:09:26 PM
The answer is... Don't put her on your gun registrations.
Let her get her own.
She wont ever get her own and even if she did. I'd have no way of controlling what goes on with it or on it. That's beside the point though :shaka:
Post by: Kingkeoni on June 16, 2012, 07:28:55 PM
Even though she doesn't even shoot, she took them.
The ones that were in his name only, he got to keep.
Post by: Hilo_boi on June 18, 2012, 01:15:58 AM
"If you were convicted of a DUI, you need to bring in a substance abuse assessment from District Court Drivers License Education. (If counseling was ordered, a medical clearance is also required)"
"Prior to a legal opinion issued by this Department in April 2006, some of the police departments interpreted a court-ordered alcohol abuse assessment following a conviction for driving under the influence (DUI) as a form of mental health treatment and thus grounds for rejection (a DUI conviction was not in and of itself a disqualifying factor). These cases historically comprised the largest single portion of rejections each year."
And where would i get this medical clearance?
I am a sane Individual, i actually am a Radiologic Technologist here in Hawaii.
Mahalo everyone
Post by: Colt808 on June 18, 2012, 04:11:25 AM
Hi guys, im new here and very interested in owning a firearm. I have a question about DUI. In 2003 at the age of 23 (young and dumb), I did get a DUI conviction..... almost 9 1/2 years ago and was also placed into BISAC (Big Island Substance Abuse Counseling) which was court ordered. I really felt out of place there sitting next to ice heads and crack heads lol, anyways what are my chances of me obtaining a firearms permit? I do understand:
"If you were convicted of a DUI, you need to bring in a substance abuse assessment from District Court Drivers License Education. (If counseling was ordered, a medical clearance is also required)"
"Prior to a legal opinion issued by this Department in April 2006, some of the police departments interpreted a court-ordered alcohol abuse assessment following a conviction for driving under the influence (DUI) as a form of mental health treatment and thus grounds for rejection (a DUI conviction was not in and of itself a disqualifying factor). These cases historically comprised the largest single portion of rejections each year."
And where would i get this medical clearance?
I am a sane Individual, i actually am a Radiologic Technologist here in Hawaii.
Mahalo everyone
HRS 134-7 (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/vol03_ch0121-0200d/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0007.htm)
§134-7 (c) No person who:
(1) Is or has been under treatment or counseling for addiction to, abuse of, or dependence upon any dangerous, harmful, or detrimental drug, intoxicating compound as defined in section 712-1240, or intoxicating liquor;
Are you absolutely sure you were convicted? Most first time DUI offenders (in cases w/o injury), are given probation or a suspended sentence with the condition that they complete a substance abuse program. Find the court order from your case and check it closely. If it was anything other than a conviction (i.e. administrative order) and you've completed the terms; you can apply for a expungement of your records.
As for a medical clearance, most choose their primary care physician. But I know some who've "cheated" by going to one of those $40/per visit rent-a-doc for them to sign off after a blood/urine test.
Post by: DuckFat on June 18, 2012, 09:49:12 AM
Hi guys, im new here and very interested in owning a firearm. I have a question about DUI. In 2003 at the age of 23 (young and dumb), I did get a DUI conviction..... almost 9 1/2 years ago and was also placed into BISAC (Big Island Substance Abuse Counseling) which was court ordered. I really felt out of place there sitting next to ice heads and crack heads lol, anyways what are my chances of me obtaining a firearms permit? I do understand:According to an earlier post, it looks like you just have to get the paperwork from the Division of Driver Education
"If you were convicted of a DUI, you need to bring in a substance abuse assessment from District Court Drivers License Education. (If counseling was ordered, a medical clearance is also required)"
"Prior to a legal opinion issued by this Department in April 2006, some of the police departments interpreted a court-ordered alcohol abuse assessment following a conviction for driving under the influence (DUI) as a form of mental health treatment and thus grounds for rejection (a DUI conviction was not in and of itself a disqualifying factor). These cases historically comprised the largest single portion of rejections each year."
And where would i get this medical clearance?
I am a sane Individual, i actually am a Radiologic Technologist here in Hawaii.
Mahalo everyone
http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=222.msg2724#msg2724 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=222.msg2724#msg2724)
In Hilo, try contacting this place
Driver Education DIV
777 Kilauea Ave, # 104
Hilo, HI 96720
(808) 961-7544
Post by: Hilo_boi on June 18, 2012, 01:04:25 PM
HRS 134-7 (http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/vol03_ch0121-0200d/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0007.htm)
§134-7 (c) No person who:
(1) Is or has been under treatment or counseling for addiction to, abuse of, or dependence upon any dangerous, harmful, or detrimental drug, intoxicating compound as defined in section 712-1240, or intoxicating liquor;
Are you absolutely sure you were convicted? Most first time DUI offenders (in cases w/o injury), are given probation or a suspended sentence with the condition that they complete a substance abuse program. Find the court order from your case and check it closely. If it was anything other than a conviction (i.e. administrative order) and you've completed the terms; you can apply for a expungement of your records.
As for a medical clearance, most choose their primary care physician. But I know some who've "cheated" by going to one of those $40/per visit rent-a-doc for them to sign off
after a blood/urine test.
Thanks for your quick reply. As far as it being a conviction, that is pretty much how i understood it. I pleaded no contest. No one was injured during my ordeal and i did hire a well known lawyer who represented me who had other charges dropped, such as exhibition of speed, illegal tint, illegal exhaust, altered vehicle. I have completed the counseling courses.
The last thing i want is for me to take the firearms class for $120 only to be denied of a firearms permit. What could i do in order to find out if i qualify or not? I was thinking of trying to get my paperwork done and apply for a longgun permit and see if i qualify for that.
Post by: Hilo_boi on June 18, 2012, 01:06:04 PM
According to an earlier post, it looks like you just have to get the paperwork from the Division of Driver Education
http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=222.msg2724#msg2724 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=222.msg2724#msg2724)
In Hilo, try contacting this place
Driver Education DIV
777 Kilauea Ave, # 104
Hilo, HI 96720
(808) 961-7544
Mahalo DuckFat. I appreciate all your help.
Post by: dirsh on June 19, 2012, 12:42:14 PM
Post by: hnl.flyboy on June 19, 2012, 01:44:10 PM
a friend lost his handgun reg paper. can he get a duplicate of it? if so, what does he need to do?
Just go to the police station he registered it at. I lost a registration paper once and they gave me a photocopy of the one they had on file.
But really, you don't really need the registration paper. Only thing I can think of is Kaneohe MCB (if you have base access) where they want to see the registration paper before you use it at their range.
Post by: dirsh on June 19, 2012, 02:28:49 PM
Just go to the police station he registered it at. I lost a registration paper once and they gave me a photocopy of the one they had on file.
But really, you don't really need the registration paper. Only thing I can think of is Kaneohe MCB (if you have base access) where they want to see the registration paper before you use it at their range.
thanks
magnum (HFR) checks for properly registered firearms for their range.
Post by: dirsh on June 19, 2012, 02:33:11 PM
a friend had a bunch of traffic tickets, no insurance the main one (felony), and got locked up for a little while. does that exclude him from being able to acquire?
Post by: hnl.flyboy on June 19, 2012, 05:10:50 PM
one more question:
a friend had a bunch of traffic tickets, no insurance the main one (felony), and got locked up for a little while. does that exclude him from being able to acquire?
Any felony, violent misdemeanor, or conviction with a sentence greater than a year means no more guns.
I didn't know a ticket for not having insurance was a felony :o
Post by: Kingkeoni on June 19, 2012, 05:26:21 PM
Any felony, violent misdemeanor, or conviction with a sentence greater than a year means no more guns.
I didn't know a ticket for not having insurance was a felony :o
I heard if you get a ticket going something like "over 20" miles per hour, it's a felony.
Post by: hnl.flyboy on June 19, 2012, 05:43:56 PM
I heard if you get a ticket going something like "over 20" miles per hour, it's a felony.
...I'm definitely slowing down!
Post by: DuckFat on June 19, 2012, 07:10:37 PM
I heard if you get a ticket going something like "over 20" miles per hour, it's a felony.Ya I heard that too. I think it was reckless endangerment with a deadly weapon or something like that. They classify vehicles as deadly weapons.
Post by: dirsh on June 20, 2012, 12:15:08 AM
Any felony, violent misdemeanor, or conviction with a sentence greater than a year means no more guns.
I didn't know a ticket for not having insurance was a felony :o
I told him I doubted it was a felony. He was only in there for like 2 weeks or something
Post by: Heavies on June 20, 2012, 03:47:00 AM
Post by: hnl.flyboy on June 20, 2012, 04:28:53 PM
Soon they will make anything and everything a felony. Easy button, no more guns.
And most of Hawaii can't vote! :O
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on July 21, 2012, 06:05:27 PM
Post by: hnl.flyboy on July 22, 2012, 06:12:50 PM
How would I private party transfer a gun from BI, would need to useba Ffl?
No need. Just need a Permit to Acquire. Simple transfer if it's a long gun, but the two weeks still applies for handguns.
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on July 23, 2012, 02:19:00 PM
Post by: hnl.flyboy on July 23, 2012, 04:29:21 PM
Post by: GZire on July 23, 2012, 06:07:10 PM
How would I private party transfer a gun from BI, would need to useba Ffl?
Is the guy in the state? I would hope if it's in the state one does not need to FFL.
Secondly face to face is easier/safer, technically one does not need to go to the PD to transfer the firearm from yourself to another, but if you are the receiving party then you most certainly must do that.
Post by: hnl.flyboy on July 23, 2012, 07:41:12 PM
Is the guy in the state? I would hope if it's in the state one does not need to FFL.
Secondly face to face is easier/safer, technically one does not need to go to the PD to transfer the firearm from yourself to another, but if you are the receiving party then you most certainly must do that.
He's on Oahu, guy with gun is on BI. I'm pretty sure it IS legal to mail since it's not "interstate", but USPS might still frown on it.
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on July 25, 2012, 02:10:14 PM
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 25, 2012, 06:23:13 PM
If I'm given a gun by a friend can I just go register it. He can't meet me to transfer at hpd, but Is giving me a copy of his registation.
NO
State law requires that the free acquisition of a firearm be first transferred to kingkeoni before any other such transaction can proceed.
Post by: hnl.flyboy on July 25, 2012, 09:29:30 PM
If I'm given a gun by a friend can I just go register it. He can't meet me to transfer at hpd, but Is giving me a copy of his registation.
A long as you got your permit to acquire, yes, you can do that. Or surrender it to KingKeoni to make it completely 100% legal ;D
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on July 25, 2012, 09:55:01 PM
Post by: hnl.flyboy on July 26, 2012, 12:07:57 AM
Damn I need to pay king keoni taxes. ...I must sell huli huli chicken tickets as a fundraiser
Don't be a tax evader!!
Post by: Harlech on August 24, 2012, 11:00:40 PM
I'm moving from Big Island to Oahu in a week. I had planned to make a purchase (rifle) shortly after moving. This being my first firearm purchase in Hawaii, I was under the impression that it was a two week waiting period, not a 2 week period to get a permit to purchase, so I didn't get the paperwork done in time here before I move.
3 weeks after I move, I'm going to become very busy for the next three months and It will be unlikely that I'll be able to get the time to go down to apply/pick up my permit. I'm moving into a vacation rental for the first month while I look for a permanent apt. I really don't want to be shopping during the height of a potential panic post election.
I'm worried about showing up with my old BI address printed on my license.
Is this a big deal?
Would they look sideways at me if I only showed up with a passport?
I've never moved in-state, would does anyone know if I'd be able to get a new DL with my vacation rental listed as the address? ( i.e. do I need to provide proof of my new address when changing my DL? I don't remember the process when I moved out here)
From what I'm reading I should also go ahead and list my old BI doctor on the form then?
Am I wrong in reading that all i need is a valid photo ID and $16.25 in cash and to budget an hour at the permit office?
Post by: hnl.flyboy on August 24, 2012, 11:41:58 PM
I'm in a slightly unusual situation I read through the whole thread but did not find an answer-
I'm moving from Big Island to Oahu in a week. I had planned to make a purchase (rifle) shortly after moving. This being my first firearm purchase in Hawaii, I was under the impression that it was a two week waiting period, not a 2 week period to get a permit to purchase, so I didn't get the paperwork done in time here before I move.
3 weeks after I move, I'm going to become very busy for the next three months and It will be unlikely that I'll be able to get the time to go down to apply/pick up my permit. I'm moving into a vacation rental for the first month while I look for a permanent apt. I really don't want to be shopping during the height of a potential panic post election.
I'm worried about showing up with my old BI address printed on my license.
Is this a big deal?
Would they look sideways at me if I only showed up with a passport?
I've never moved in-state, would does anyone know if I'd be able to get a new DL with my vacation rental listed as the address? ( i.e. do I need to provide proof of my new address when changing my DL? I don't remember the process when I moved out here)
From what I'm reading I should also go ahead and list my old BI doctor on the form then?
Am I wrong in reading that all i need is a valid photo ID and $16.25 in cash and to budget an hour at the permit office?
If the dealer is cool with it, you can pay for the gun and pick it up whenever you get the permit to acquire...
I'm pretty sure you'll be fine with just a passport. Still, tell them you just moved from BI and you have a new address, and they'll be cool.
If your BI doctor has your records, and you don't have one on Oahu by the time you go to HPD, list your BI doctor.
Have you gotten a permit to acquire before? If so, call HPD up and see if you still have to pay it if you did it in the BI. Also, if you go to HPD pretty early, the line shouldn't be too long.
Post by: Harlech on September 03, 2012, 01:22:44 AM
If the dealer is cool with it, you can pay for the gun and pick it up whenever you get the permit to acquire...
I'm pretty sure you'll be fine with just a passport. Still, tell them you just moved from BI and you have a new address, and they'll be cool.
If your BI doctor has your records, and you don't have one on Oahu by the time you go to HPD, list your BI doctor.
Have you gotten a permit to acquire before? If so, call HPD up and see if you still have to pay it if you did it in the BI. Also, if you go to HPD pretty early, the line shouldn't be too long.
I have not purchased a firearm in the state of Hawaii before.
Last question that just occured to me-
What is involved on the mental health waiver?
I mentioned to a nurse that I was taking St. John's wort over the counter for depression. (at the time my wife had just had a miscarriage, and was diagnosed with a potentially deadly health problem, a good friend of mine had been moved into hospice care due to terminal brain cancer, a nephew had been in a car accident and is now paralyzed from the neck down, and an uncle who has been battling leukemia for the past 10 years has taken a distinct turn for the worse in the space of 2 weeks. It was a rough time.) I've never been diagnosed nor treated by a doctor for depression nor taken any prescription medication. The doctor has never made any mention of it nor did we discuss my personal problems.
I'm planning on applying for my license this tuesday after the holiday. What exactly are the questions that are asked? If the question is have I ever been diagnosed with depression I can answer truthfully, no. If the question is have I ever been depressed, I'd have to answer yes, just like everyone else on the planet. If my doctor is an anti-gun person, and decides to comb through my records to look for a reason to deny, what are the repercussions if he decides to screw me and say that I have a major mental problem due to my use of an over the counter medication?
Sorry if i'm reading too much into this. My friends have told me that the line from the movie 'the hunt for the red october' was written with me in mind- 'he doesn't take a shit without making a plan'.
Also when I go to register the rifle, do I just walk around downtown honolulu with a rifle hanging over my shoulder? Should I put it in a case? Do I need a hard locking case? Am I the only one to think its strange carrying a firearm into a police station?
Post by: Kingkeoni on September 03, 2012, 01:49:19 AM
I have not purchased a firearm in the state of Hawaii before.
Last question that just occured to me-
What is involved on the mental health waiver?
If you have not been diagnosed as having depression, you're ok.
Also when I go to register the rifle, do I just walk around downtown honolulu with a rifle hanging over my shoulder? Hell no
Should I put it in a case? Do I need a hard locking case? Yes, Hawaii law requires it to be in a case or the manufacturers box.
Am I the only one to think its strange carrying a firearm into a police station? Yes, it's only you. :rofl:
Post by: fstbckgt on September 03, 2012, 03:25:32 AM
Post by: Kingkeoni on September 03, 2012, 04:53:13 AM
I've been waiting in line behind a guy who just wrapped his rifle in a beach towel.
That, is a violation of Hawaii state law
Post by: numbertwo on September 03, 2012, 10:35:37 AM
I have not purchased a firearm in the state of Hawaii before.
Last question that just occured to me-
What is involved on the mental health waiver?
You just have to write down your PCP's info and sign the waiver allowing HPD to contact your PCP to dig into your files so they know you're not a diagnosed nut case.
I mentioned to a nurse that I was taking St. John's wort over the counter for depression. (at the time my wife had just had a miscarriage, and was diagnosed with a potentially deadly health problem, a good friend of mine had been moved into hospice care due to terminal brain cancer, a nephew had been in a car accident and is now paralyzed from the neck down, and an uncle who has been battling leukemia for the past 10 years has taken a distinct turn for the worse in the space of 2 weeks. It was a rough time.) I've never been diagnosed nor treated by a doctor for depression nor taken any prescription medication. The doctor has never made any mention of it nor did we discuss my personal problems.
I'm planning on applying for my license this tuesday after the holiday. What exactly are the questions that are asked? If the question is have I ever been diagnosed with depression I can answer truthfully, no. If the question is have I ever been depressed, I'd have to answer yes, just like everyone else on the planet. If my doctor is an anti-gun person, and decides to comb through my records to look for a reason to deny, what are the repercussions if he decides to screw me and say that I have a major mental problem due to my use of an over the counter medication?
Sorry if i'm reading too much into this. My friends have told me that the line from the movie 'the hunt for the red october' was written with me in mind- 'he doesn't take a shit without making a plan'.
I have the same problem sometimes. I'll ask a lot of questions almost down the where exactly I'll need to place my 2 feet once I walk into the door.
Also when I go to register the rifle, do I just walk around downtown honolulu with a rifle hanging over my shoulder? Should I put it in a case? Do I need a hard locking case? Am I the only one to think its strange carrying a firearm into a police station?
No, don't do that. Get a case, hard or soft is fine, just as long as it's made for holding rifles. It was a little weird a first when till I saw a guy 2 spaces in front of me registering a g36 and a shotgun.
Post by: hnl.flyboy on September 03, 2012, 01:09:08 PM
I have not purchased a firearm in the state of Hawaii before.
Last question that just occured to me-
What is involved on the mental health waiver?
I mentioned to a nurse that I was taking St. John's wort over the counter for depression. (at the time my wife had just had a miscarriage, and was diagnosed with a potentially deadly health problem, a good friend of mine had been moved into hospice care due to terminal brain cancer, a nephew had been in a car accident and is now paralyzed from the neck down, and an uncle who has been battling leukemia for the past 10 years has taken a distinct turn for the worse in the space of 2 weeks. It was a rough time.) I've never been diagnosed nor treated by a doctor for depression nor taken any prescription medication. The doctor has never made any mention of it nor did we discuss my personal problems.
I'm planning on applying for my license this tuesday after the holiday. What exactly are the questions that are asked? If the question is have I ever been diagnosed with depression I can answer truthfully, no. If the question is have I ever been depressed, I'd have to answer yes, just like everyone else on the planet. If my doctor is an anti-gun person, and decides to comb through my records to look for a reason to deny, what are the repercussions if he decides to screw me and say that I have a major mental problem due to my use of an over the counter medication?
Sorry if i'm reading too much into this. My friends have told me that the line from the movie 'the hunt for the red october' was written with me in mind- 'he doesn't take a shit without making a plan'.
Also when I go to register the rifle, do I just walk around downtown honolulu with a rifle hanging over my shoulder? Should I put it in a case? Do I need a hard locking case? Am I the only one to think its strange carrying a firearm into a police station?
Like KK said, if you weren't diagnosed for it, you should be fine.
If you have it in a commercially made gun sock, sling it over your shoulder and walk into the police station like that. Hell, if you don't have a car, you can walk from your Waikiki condo to the police station that way (if you don't mind the long walk). I felt weird the first couple times walking into the police station with a gun, but 13 times later, it's become pretty normal.
Post by: dstyles on September 06, 2012, 10:45:15 PM
Post by: hnl.flyboy on September 07, 2012, 12:30:45 AM
Does the 14 day waiting period include weekends? sorry noob here. Just needed to know so I can plan accordingly with my work schedule. Thanks
For the permit to acquire, yes. You may pick it up 14 days, 2 weeks, after you apply.
Post by: redryderbb on September 13, 2012, 10:57:44 PM
Well this time, I went to HPD today at 11:00am to obtain my long gun permit. It was crazy! None of the street parking stalls weren't vacant, so I had to park on one of the side streets down the road. Walked into the firearms division and there was a line that ended by the glass door. While standing at the end of the line, I've seen a guy that came around that small room with maybe 5-6 firearms with him. Stood in line for almost 2 hours :wtf:
I would recommend to anyone who plan to get a handgun permit/long gun permit/registering firearms/etc, to try get there (if possible) as soon as they open up or a little later. I'll for sure get there when they open up to pick up my long gun permit in about 2 weeks :shaka:
Aloha!
Post by: simx48 on October 21, 2012, 09:03:37 PM
Post by: BUD on October 21, 2012, 10:08:11 PM
Post by: numbertwo on October 22, 2012, 09:54:13 AM
Can someone help refresh my memory on how do I go about doing that?
So far this is what I think I know:
1. meet with buyer at range, home or gun store.
2. give him gun info (do I just write it all down on a piece of normal paper? and exactly what info do I give?
3. buyer applies for permit and we both wait 2 weeks
4. preferably meet at HPD, I sign buyers permit and release the gun to new owner
5. he goes and registers and I go about my way.
Is this correct?
Post by: bass monkey on October 22, 2012, 10:40:14 AM
You never mentioned collecting money so if you giving away a free gun ill take it. Thanks!!!
Post by: numbertwo on October 22, 2012, 11:12:31 AM
You give him the make, model, serial number, caliber. You can write it as a bill of sale. That should be sufficent
You never mentioned collecting money so if you giving away a free gun ill take it. Thanks!!!
Thanks and haha I left that out because I felt it was given but maybe one day when I can afford to give one away then you'll be first on the list :D
Post by: Bigkahuna808 on October 22, 2012, 11:40:48 AM
Post by: Dregs on October 27, 2012, 02:02:18 PM
Post by: Haoleb on October 27, 2012, 03:42:01 PM
Thats just my story. Overall it took like an hour. Meanwhile the guy sitting next to me gripes about how its harder to bring guns from out of state than to buy here.. I sure dont think so.
Post by: BUD on October 29, 2012, 09:17:54 PM
Post by: simx48 on November 05, 2012, 03:08:14 PM
Post by: hnl.flyboy on November 05, 2012, 09:04:46 PM
Does the day you apply for the permit count towards the 14 day waiting period or does the first day start on the day after you apply?
If you apply on Monday, you can pick it up on the 3rd Tuesday after.
Post by: g4z808 on December 03, 2012, 08:23:55 PM
I plan to register a out of state firearm
When i bring it to HPD do i need to bring proof that it has been within 72 hours?
and what if i dont have a plane ticket to show.
will i need to get a hawaii ID first . i have a out of state drivers license
and i hear if i dont have a Primary care physician i can just state that, or do i need to have a doctor
and lastly what happens , or is it possible to register a out of state firearm after 72 hours. or do i gotta catch a plane out and fly back in just to have a ticket
Post by: Kingkeoni on December 03, 2012, 08:35:16 PM
Hi i have a few questions
I plan to register a out of state firearm
When i bring it to HPD do i need to bring proof that it has been within 72 hours?
and what if i dont have a plane ticket to show.
will i need to get a hawaii ID first . i have a out of state drivers license
and i hear if i dont have a Primary care physician i can just state that, or do i need to have a doctor
and lastly what happens , or is it possible to register a out of state firearm after 72 hours. or do i gotta catch a plane out and fly back in just to have a ticket
Ok...
Take a deep breath...
It's all gonna be ok.
Just bring in your firearm, stand in line for 6 hours, hand it to the officer and state "brought this with me from out of state"
The officer will ask if its your first time registering a gun in Hawaii. You'll reply "yes"
He will give you a bunch of forms to fill out, you fill them all out and then you will need to be finger printed.
Bring $16.50 exact change in cash. Hand it to the officer.
Then you'll get finger printed.
You wait a few minutes and he will present you with a shiny new Hawaii firearm registration slip.
You sign the slip and keep the top copy.
Hand him the rest of the copies.
Your out of state ID is ok.
Your out of state doctor is ok.
Then you're finished, you'll say to yourself, "this wasn't so bad"
I would recommend applying for a long gun permit at the same time.
Post by: g4z808 on December 03, 2012, 09:54:39 PM
was begining to get worried about HPD calling the airlines or something.
hell i guess i coulda swam to hawaii , no paper trail
hope to be active on this forum ,
and im registering long guns. so i still have to go through the safety course for handguns
also i didnt have a out of sate doctor either. last doctor i saw was a on call appointment at straub and before that was military doctors
Post by: imanley on December 03, 2012, 10:19:59 PM
Thanks for the quick reply.
was begining to get worried about HPD calling the airlines or something.
hell i guess i coulda swam to hawaii , no paper trail
hope to be active on this forum ,
and im registering long guns. so i still have to go through the safety course for handguns
also i didnt have a out of sate doctor either. last doctor i saw was a on call appointment at straub and before that was military doctors
I wouldn't worry about the the doctor thing, I don't have a regular doctor either and went through the registration process with no problem.
Post by: hnl.flyboy on December 03, 2012, 11:06:09 PM
Ok...
Take a deep breath...
It's all gonna be ok.
Just bring in your firearm, stand in line for 6 hours, hand it to the officer and state "brought this with me from out of state"
The officer will ask if its your first time registering a gun in Hawaii. You'll reply "yes"
He will give you a bunch of forms to fill out, you fill them all out and then you will need to be finger printed.Bring $16.50 exact change in cash. Hand it to the officer.
Then you'll get finger printed.
You wait a few minutes and he will present you with a shiny new Hawaii firearm registration slip.
You sign the slip and keep the top copy.
Hand him the rest of the copies.
Your out of state ID is ok.
Your out of state doctor is ok.
Then you're finished, you'll say to yourself, "this wasn't so bad"
I would recommend applying for a long gun permit at the same time.
You don't need to pay for an out-of-state registration, unless you apply for a long gun permit.
Post by: bryanhayn on December 04, 2012, 01:53:32 PM
If my last primary care physician was some doctor I saw just two times whose name I don't remember at the Spark Matsunaga VA center at Tripler about 3 years ago, do I need to list this guy when I apply for my permit or should I just write "no primary care physician"? He never diagnosed me with any psychological disorder, so I should be OK right?
Post by: TeamMidori on December 04, 2012, 03:45:28 PM
If u got no dr, u got no dr. So put that.
That's what the guy at the window told me when I first applied years ago. I have one now but back then I didn't.
Post by: Kingkeoni on December 04, 2012, 09:42:49 PM
Quick question:
If my last primary care physician was some doctor I saw just two times whose name I don't remember at the Spark Matsunaga VA center at Tripler about 3 years ago, do I need to list this guy when I apply for my permit or should I just write "no primary care physician"? He never diagnosed me with any psychological disorder, so I should be OK right?
Just put "Tripler" as the doctor
Post by: GZire on December 05, 2012, 08:07:48 PM
Just put "Tripler" as the doctor
Doesn't Tripler = Butcher?
Post by: TeamMidori on December 05, 2012, 09:38:41 PM
Post by: stangzilla on December 06, 2012, 08:16:48 AM
meaning how long do you have to pick up the gun from the store, is it 2 weeks?
also after you pick up the handgun from the store, how long do have to bring it to HPD to register, 3 days?
went through this a couple times but I forget exactly. just trying to plan out my next acqusition.
Post by: TeamMidori on December 06, 2012, 11:52:53 AM
Post by: stangzilla on December 06, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
Idk. I usually pick it up then go gun store same day, go back hpd the same day then go shoot it...same day.
I would love to do that, but my work schedule is not that forgiving.
Post by: imanley on December 06, 2012, 05:47:11 PM
Post by: Bunker on December 06, 2012, 06:06:15 PM
from the time you pick up the permit from HPD to acquire a handgun, how long is that good for?
meaning how long do you have to pick up the gun from the store, is it 2 weeks?
also after you pick up the handgun from the store, how long do have to bring it to HPD to register, 3 days?
Permit to acquire process: http://www.honolulupd.org/information/index.php?page=gunapplication (http://www.honolulupd.org/information/index.php?page=gunapplication)
Registration process: http://www.honolulupd.org/information/index.php?page=gunregistration (http://www.honolulupd.org/information/index.php?page=gunregistration)
Post by: Haoleb on December 06, 2012, 06:33:05 PM
Post by: imanley on December 06, 2012, 07:11:38 PM
Post by: Haoleb on December 06, 2012, 08:00:42 PM
I was told to call the day it was supposed to be ready. They'll tell you if they have it or to call again the next day. I'm pretty sure it on you to call and check if it is ready yet.
Thanks, I'll give them a call tomorrow and hope they have it ready.
Post by: Haoleb on December 07, 2012, 02:02:28 PM
Thanks, I'll give them a call tomorrow and hope they have it ready.
So much for hoping I could go down and get my permit today, Even got off work early by chance. Give them a call to see if its ready only to find out that its a furlough friday ::)
Post by: imanley on December 07, 2012, 05:59:06 PM
So much for hoping I could go down and get my permit today, Even got off work early by chance. Give them a call to see if its ready only to find out that its a furlough friday ::)
Haha I did the same thing last month, went down to the station and thought to myself oh wow the line is small, only to realize it was because it was closed. :-\
Post by: ej20chris on December 10, 2012, 11:23:50 AM
Also for the 72 hour out-of-state registration, just to be sure, they have no way of knowing how long it's been since you arrived with the firearm correct? Today would be 72 hours, but the line was ridiculous so I couldn't stay. I will probably try to go back tomorrow.
Post by: 2aHawaii on December 10, 2012, 11:25:40 AM
Hi guys, what happens when you don't give exact change? What if I gave them $17 and said keep the change? Would they take it?
Sure, they'll gladly take your money. Sometimes they will give change, but it would be the exception not the rule.
Also for the 72 hour out-of-state registration, just to be sure, they have no way of knowing how long it's been since you arrived with the firearm correct? Today would be 72 hours, but the line was ridiculous so I couldn't stay. I will probably try to go back tomorrow.
They don't ask for a copy of a plane ticket...
Post by: ej20chris on December 10, 2012, 11:27:23 AM
Sure, they'll gladly take your money. Sometimes they will give change, but it would be the exception not the rule.
They don't ask for a copy of a plane ticket...
Thanks for clearing that up for me :)
Post by: bryanhayn on December 10, 2012, 04:20:08 PM
-I just got my handgun training course affidavit in the mail.
-I already purchased two handguns - one from OGC, the other from Magnum.
-OGC will be closed 12/22 and will reopen 1/4.
-I don't know Magnum's holiday hours.
-I haven't done my first trip to HPD yet.
So if I go to HPD tomorrow and apply for my permit, I'll have to wait until 12/25 - 12/31 to pick up my permit, correct? What happens if I pick up my permit on 12/27...do I have to get my OGC gun and return to HPD no later than Jan. 1? What should I do? ??? Is it a must that I return to HPD with my handguns no later than 5 days after I pick up my permit?
Post by: fstbckgt on December 10, 2012, 04:42:49 PM
Post by: stangzilla on December 10, 2012, 04:46:11 PM
Can multiple handgun permits be applied for at the same time?
yes
I did 2 at the same time
Post by: Bunker on December 10, 2012, 04:46:44 PM
Post by: Kingkeoni on December 10, 2012, 04:47:56 PM
Can multiple handgun permits be applied for at the same time?
Yeah, I do it all the time
Post by: stangzilla on December 10, 2012, 05:25:45 PM
Help me figure out how to acquire my first two handguns...please! I'm so confused. :grrr: Here's my situation...
-I just got my handgun training course affidavit in the mail.
-I already purchased two handguns - one from OGC, the other from Magnum.
-OGC will be closed 12/22 and will reopen 1/4.
-I don't know Magnum's holiday hours.
-I haven't done my first trip to HPD yet.
So if I go to HPD tomorrow and apply for my permit, I'll have to wait until 12/25 - 12/31 to pick up my permit, correct? What happens if I pick up my permit on 12/27...do I have to get my OGC gun and return to HPD no later than Jan. 1? What should I do? ??? Is it a must that I return to HPD with my handguns no later than 5 days after I pick up my permit?
this is also my dillema.
I believe once you get the permit to acquire from HPD, that is good for 10-14 days. I forget exactly.
once you get the gun, you have 3-5 days to return to HPD to register it.
but I forget exactly the time periods you are talking about.
i asked the same question on the last page of this thread, was given a link to HPD website, but the website did not clearly state those time periods.
i guess we could call HPD. but that would be too easy. lol.
Post by: imanley on December 10, 2012, 05:27:06 PM
Help me figure out how to acquire my first two handguns...please! I'm so confused. :grrr: Here's my situation...
-I just got my handgun training course affidavit in the mail.
-I already purchased two handguns - one from OGC, the other from Magnum.
-OGC will be closed 12/22 and will reopen 1/4.
-I don't know Magnum's holiday hours.
-I haven't done my first trip to HPD yet.
So if I go to HPD tomorrow and apply for my permit, I'll have to wait until 12/25 - 12/31 to pick up my permit, correct? What happens if I pick up my permit on 12/27...do I have to get my OGC gun and return to HPD no later than Jan. 1? What should I do? ??? Is it a must that I return to HPD with my handguns no later than 5 days after I pick up my permit?
If I recall from last time it is 10 days to pick up and 5 days to register. (this includes weekends so if you pick it up on friday you have to get in by tuesday)
Post by: stangzilla on December 10, 2012, 05:28:38 PM
Post by: hnl.flyboy on December 11, 2012, 11:20:08 AM
Hi guys, what happens when you don't give exact change? What if I gave them $17 and said keep the change? Would they take it?
Back when it was $19.25, i told them to keep the change, but they still made me go and get change...
Post by: drck1000 on December 11, 2012, 11:56:13 AM
Back when it was $19.25, i told them to keep the change, but they still made me go and get change...Me too. They did that to another recently. They made them go to the shop across the way to get change as well.
Post by: Haoleb on December 11, 2012, 12:11:51 PM
Post by: kkt on December 11, 2012, 02:40:17 PM
A rifle or pistol permit must be picked up within 6-calendar days including the first pickup day.
Once the permit is picked up, it is valid for:
Rifle – 365 calendar days.
Pistol – 10 calendar days.
Once the firearm is picked up, it must be registered within:
Rifle – 5 calendar days.
Pistol – 2 calendar days
Post by: Inspector on December 11, 2012, 06:43:32 PM
At the Kona PD you have to either have a cashiers check or money order. They wont even take cash, period.Hilo PD took my personal check.
Post by: stangzilla on December 12, 2012, 01:10:29 PM
I had the same questions as stangzilla so I called HPD to confirm the following:
A rifle or pistol permit must be picked up within 6-calendar days after the first pickup day.
Once the permit is picked up, it is valid for:
Rifle – 365 calendar days.
Pistol – 10 calendar days.
Once the firearm is picked up, it must be registered within:
Rifle – 5 calendar days.
Pistol – 2 calendar days
thank you for calling. :shaka:
my first gun registered I didn't have exact change, but they gave me change for $20. but i took the last of their change.
so maybe they'll give you change if they have it. but now i'll bring exact change.
Post by: Kingkeoni on December 12, 2012, 07:13:50 PM
but now i'll bring exact change.
Too late, pay once, never again.
:geekdanc:
Post by: stangzilla on December 14, 2012, 04:02:45 PM
Too late, pay once, never again.
:geekdanc:
yea, been there a few times already.
but my old brain can't remember.
I'll be there again in a couple weeks. got a new toy. ;)
Post by: Kingkeoni on December 14, 2012, 06:40:45 PM
yea, been there a few times already.
but my old brain can't remember.
I'll be there again in a couple weeks. got a new toy. ;)
Get your toys now.
With all the insanity going on lately, a gun ban of some type is a certainty.
Post by: Bunker on December 14, 2012, 07:15:52 PM
Get your toys now.
With all the insanity going on lately, a gun ban of some type is a certainty.
It's inevitable...not a matter of if, its when.
Post by: bryanhayn on December 17, 2012, 01:51:28 PM
Post by: BUD on December 17, 2012, 03:28:58 PM
OK, so after I pick up my handgun permit from HPD, how long do I have to get my handgun from the dealer and return to HPD? According to the HPD website, I have 5 days to return to HPD AFTER I acquire the handgun. This doesn't tell me how long I have to acquire the handgun from the time I pick up the permit. Anyone know?
Permits in Hilo are good for 10 days. Should be the same for you.
Post by: numbertwo on December 18, 2012, 11:24:55 PM
Handgun:
My wife and I both have affidavits required for purchasing a pistol.
After purchasing a handgun can I go by myself to apply for the permit then register it under the both of us without her being with me if I bring our marriage cert?
Rifle:
Only I have a long gun permit, same as above. After buying the rifle can I register it under the both of us it by myself with the use of the marriage cert.?
The reason she wont be there is because her work schedule doesn't allow her time to go when HPD is open.
Thanks in advance
Post by: Kingkeoni on December 19, 2012, 04:33:09 PM
2 questions about my wife and her first gun.
Handgun:
My wife and I both have affidavits required for purchasing a pistol.
After purchasing a handgun can I go by myself to apply for the permit then register it under the both of us without her being with me if I bring our marriage cert?
Rifle:
Only I have a long gun permit, same as above. After buying the rifle can I register it under the both of us it by myself with the use of the marriage cert.?
The reason she wont be there is because her work schedule doesn't allow her time to go when HPD is open.
Thanks in advance
No and no.
She has to be there
Post by: numbertwo on December 19, 2012, 05:49:34 PM
Post by: Dblnaknak on December 19, 2012, 05:59:18 PM
Post by: numbertwo on December 21, 2012, 09:11:10 PM
Post by: Kingkeoni on December 21, 2012, 09:14:29 PM
Your marriage cert. will you no good at HPD.
You still need to bring an "original" every time you do a joint registration.
Post by: Jl808 on December 21, 2012, 09:18:43 PM
Post by: Inspector on December 23, 2012, 06:19:31 AM
Post by: HawaiiRebel on December 27, 2012, 11:02:42 AM
Post by: 2aHawaii on December 27, 2012, 11:06:42 AM
Post by: HawaiiRebel on December 27, 2012, 11:11:36 AM
Post by: numbertwo on December 28, 2012, 05:08:46 PM
Post by: stangzilla on December 28, 2012, 05:13:48 PM
Anyone know what days they will be open next week (first week of 2012)? Also if there's any special hours. Thanks!
I believe they are closed new years day, and open the rest of the week.
C&C holiday schedule:
http://www1.honolulu.gov/liq/licensing/annualholidy.pdf (http://www1.honolulu.gov/liq/licensing/annualholidy.pdf)
Post by: numbertwo on December 28, 2012, 07:33:49 PM
I believe they are closed new years day, and open the rest of the week.
C&C holiday schedule:
http://www1.honolulu.gov/liq/licensing/annualholidy.pdf (http://www1.honolulu.gov/liq/licensing/annualholidy.pdf)
Thank you! :worship:
Post by: onescruffyguy on January 21, 2013, 07:19:04 PM
Post by: fstbckgt on January 27, 2013, 07:46:20 PM
how do i sell my gun if the gun is joint registered to my wife and I? do we both need to go down to hpd to transfer out of our name or can i just call them? I'm going to sell the gun to a FFL licensed holder. :shaka:
Technically neither of you have to go if you don't want to meet the individual at HPD, though it is a good idea. You just need to write up a bill of sale, save a copy for yourself. If its a rifle, the individual who bought it from you takes the bill of sale, rifle, and their permit to HPD for registration. When i did a private sale I was told by the hpd officer to keep the old registration for the sold gun and write transferred on it to keep in my records.
Post by: OldFaithful on February 19, 2013, 09:36:26 PM
Post by: fstbckgt on February 20, 2013, 02:33:12 AM
Uhh where do you all usually park? I know there's some meters around and you can park in the HPD visitor lot, however there's a 2 hour limit on the meters and sometimes it can take longer than that to get your stuff done there...don't want a ticket. Someone save my place in line while I go put coins in the meter :'(
I've saved several peoples spots in the past few months, during periods of long waits it seems common. I'm sure someone would be willing to hold your spot.
Makes me glad I live walking distance from hpd. :geekdanc:
Post by: GZire on February 20, 2013, 06:29:17 PM
Uhh where do you all usually park? I know there's some meters around and you can park in the HPD visitor lot, however there's a 2 hour limit on the meters and sometimes it can take longer than that to get your stuff done there...don't want a ticket. Someone save my place in line while I go put coins in the meter :'(
Some guys park at Blaisdell and walk it.
Post by: TeamMidori on February 20, 2013, 06:31:24 PM
Post by: MMA10mm on March 03, 2013, 06:52:04 PM
My family is considering a move to Hawaii. Still not sure which island, but definitely not Kauai. We've visited Oahu twice and plan on visiting BI and Maui next.
My first big question regarding HI's state laws is this: What if an out-of-stater moves to HI with firearms? Just need to register them, correct?
Question #2: What if a person owns a LOT of firearms, say a couple hundred or more? Would a person in that predicament have to haul all of them down to the PD, or would they send a team out to your house to make the process easier? How long does it take to register 1 firearm? (So I can calculate how many days it would take to register them all?)
Question #3: Because it was made before 1899, I do NOT have to register my 1892 Krag rifle, correct?
Question #4: Are there any weird restrictions I may have missed, like a handgun with too short of a barrel, or rifle with folding stock? (None of my firearms are NFA weapons, and thereby free from any federal registration.)
Question #5: Since I already own them, is there any need to obtain a permit to acquire? (Say, so that they can verify I'm not kuku for coco-puffs?)
Question #6: Is the 10-rd magazine limit just on handguns, or is it also on rifle magazines?
Lastly, and this is off-topic, so I'm sorry, but... After checking the FAQ on ranges, I noted none were listed on the BI, and only 1 was listed on Maui, yet, there's plenty of gunshops on both those islands... Where does one shoot at on BI and Maui, other than that one range listed on Maui? (The answer to this may help narrow down which islands to look at moving to.)
Post by: crazy cat on March 03, 2013, 07:37:23 PM
#2 Yes, you'll have t haul them all down to the PD. In Hilo, the clerk will probably come out to the parking lot, so at least you don't have to haul them all up the stairs.
#3 Correct.
#4 Assault pistols (like the Tech 9; also includes AR and AK based pistols)) are banned. Folding stocks and small pistols are fine.
#5 You don't need a PTA to register imports.
#6 The 10 round limit is on magazines that fit into a pistol, which is somewhat vague, since there are pistol versions of a lot of rifles. No need to take any magazines along when you register guns.
As for places to shoot...there are some private clubs, and lots of people shoot in their back yards. Most of the Big Island is zoned ag (agricultural), all you need on ag land is a safe backstop (so the bullets don't leave your property). FWIW, the Big Island is generally more gun friendly (and rural) than the other islands.
Post by: MasterYensi on March 03, 2013, 07:53:32 PM
Post by: Kingkeoni on March 03, 2013, 08:49:41 PM
Post by: MasterYensi on March 03, 2013, 09:16:59 PM
Receiver only is OK
Thanks, that will make it a whole lot easier. :geekdanc:
Post by: fstbckgt on March 13, 2013, 04:23:20 AM
Post by: bass monkey on March 13, 2013, 06:35:41 AM
Since I hadn't made a long gun purchase since picking up my Arsenal 4 months ago I decided to order a savage mkii from Buds yesterday and when I went to look in my safe I could not find my permit to acquire :grrr:. Am I correct in assuming my dumbass will have to reapply and go through the 2 week waiting period all over again, or is there a chance that they can replace a lost permit?
There was another thread on here asking that. I believe if its valid they can issue another one. That was the concenses. Anywho get it all figured out before the gun show buddy
Post by: Kingkeoni on March 13, 2013, 06:36:36 AM
Since I hadn't made a long gun purchase since picking up my Arsenal 4 months ago I decided to order a savage mkii from Buds yesterday and when I went to look in my safe I could not find my permit to acquire :grrr:. Am I correct in assuming my dumbass will have to reapply and go through the 2 week waiting period all over again, or is there a chance that they can replace a lost permit?
Problem
If you "lose" your permit to acquire rifles and go down to HPD to replace it, you have to fill out a police report staring the details of your dumnassidness.
Then you can reapply for a permit and wait two weeks.
I would spend a little longer looking for it.
There is no "replacing" a lost permit.
Post by: bknaka on March 21, 2013, 12:48:54 AM
sorry in advance for the noobish questions that i am about to ask. I am gonna take the handgun safety course soon and i wanted to clear things up before i do.
1, I have a DUI from 5 years back, what do I have to do to pass the background check.
2. I dont have a doctor, how do i get me medical clearance. \
3. Could I apply for both a long gun and pistol permit at the same time, if yes, will i have to pay the fbi background check fee twice or wait in line twice?
thank you in advance for the help ;D
Post by: macsak on March 21, 2013, 01:21:36 AM
3>
you can apply for both at the same time, in fact, the people at the desk encourage you to do this when you get your handgun permit
pay once, fingerprint once, wait once
plus the clearances are the same, so you won't have to do them again
I have a few questions
sorry in advance for the noobish questions that i am about to ask. I am gonna take the handgun safety course soon and i wanted to clear things up before i do.
1, I have a DUI from 5 years back, what do I have to do to pass the background check.
2. I dont have a doctor, how do i get me medical clearance. \
3. Could I apply for both a long gun and pistol permit at the same time, if yes, will i have to pay the fbi background check fee twice or wait in line twice?
thank you in advance for the help ;D
Post by: bknaka on March 21, 2013, 01:23:10 AM
Post by: bknaka on March 21, 2013, 08:38:38 PM
After I pick up my permit from HPD, how long do I have to bring the gun back to get registered?
Im gonna be applying for the permit on march 25th. Ill probably get my permit on the 8th. I dont get paid till the 12th, and that is when ill give the guy the money to buy the gun (private owner purchase)
will that work out?
Post by: bass monkey on March 21, 2013, 08:44:58 PM
If its a handgun, I believe you have a week to register it. After that point the permit is no longer valid.
Post by: TeamMidori on March 21, 2013, 08:51:37 PM
Post by: numbertwo on March 23, 2013, 10:59:35 AM
Now I don't know?
Post by: fstbckgt on March 23, 2013, 11:03:08 PM
After picking up my handgun; how long do I have to register? I thought it was 5 days but someone told me 48hrs.Handgun is 3 days. This includes the day you pick it up.
Now I don't know?
Post by: fstbckgt on March 24, 2013, 08:19:32 PM
Post by: moosed on March 24, 2013, 08:35:38 PM
If were going by HRS its obviously 5. 3 for out of state and pistols aren't explicitly mentioned. 3 is just what I was told the first trip I ever made to HPD which was for a pistol purchase.
"Every person who acquires a firearm pursuant to section 134-2 shall register the firearm in the manner prescribed by this section within five days of acquisition."
That's calendar days. HPD Firearms section is closed on weekends. Actual deadline may be sooner than 5 days if your 4th and/or 5th day(s) are on Sat/Sun. :crazy:
Post by: numbertwo on April 02, 2013, 11:51:58 PM
"Every person who acquires a firearm pursuant to section 134-2 shall register the firearm in the manner prescribed by this section within five days of acquisition."
That's calendar days. HPD Firearms section is closed on weekends. Actual deadline may be sooner than 5 days if your 4th and/or 5th day(s) are on Sat/Sun. :crazy:
So 5 days then. Thank you!
Post by: TANGOSUCKA808 on April 16, 2013, 12:17:28 AM
Post by: moosed on April 16, 2013, 12:21:30 AM
when getting a second handgun, do you have to pay the 16.50 again or do you just go down and apply with no charge?
One-time fee. After you're fingerprinted, you don't have to pay again.
As it stands now, there are no other fees besides fingerprinting. I hope it stays that way, too!
Post by: bknaka on April 17, 2013, 01:26:42 AM
One-time fee. After you're fingerprinted, you don't have to pay again.
As it stands now, there are no other fees besides fingerprinting. I hope it stays that way, too!
That's a relief. So just go down, apply, wait 2 weeks, then pick up gun and register. Got it.
Post by: Heavies on April 17, 2013, 03:23:32 AM
So if your applying for a first handgun and already have a long gun permit which did fingerprinting, no need do it again right? Even though its different type permit
There is only a one time fingerprinting, and fee for the fingerprinting.
Post by: dirsh on April 17, 2013, 04:16:30 PM
Post by: digital808 on May 06, 2013, 09:19:05 AM
Just wanted to remind everyone the earliest you can renew your long gun permit is 14 days before expiration
Quick Question! When you renew the long gun permit, do I have to wait another 14 days or is it just renewed on the spot for another year?
Post by: TeamMidori on May 06, 2013, 10:28:29 AM
Post by: digital808 on May 06, 2013, 08:11:47 PM
Gotta reapply and wait so go 14 days prior to expiration
Thnaks! :shaka:
Post by: Pnut Bandit on June 03, 2013, 04:37:43 PM
Had my filled out online form rejected. apparently one error was input wrong FFL dealer on form. They wanted the local FFL not the origin / seller.
Other issue of note was that they had me refill out an old form because they said they needed a copy for the FFL dealer. I guess you should make copies and have carbon paper for their convenience.
PS. I got the normal star treatment with paper work being tossed backed to me HAHA!!!
ah just glad the line was short.
Post by: Kar Lorian on June 08, 2013, 05:43:52 PM
I am on the BI and I have a post in the Classified: Firearms section with some of my rifles.
If I find a buyer on another island. What steps would you folks recommend I follow to stay safe and legal.
This is how I see it;
-Agree on price with buyer
-Buyer sends payment and copy of FFL info
-I ship to their FFL via USPS, FedEx, or UPS (as long guns can be shipped to an FFL from a private citizen)
-Buyer then goes through the standard process for acquiring the rifle from the FFL
Am I over complicating this?
Thanks
Post by: BUD on June 08, 2013, 06:58:15 PM
Sorry if this is a stupid question.
I am on the BI and I have a post in the Classified: Firearms section with some of my rifles.
If I find a buyer on another island. What steps would you folks recommend I follow to stay safe and legal.
This is how I see it;
-Agree on price with buyer
-Buyer sends payment and copy of FFL info
-I ship to their FFL via USPS, FedEx, or UPS (as long guns can be shipped to an FFL from a private citizen)
-Buyer then goes through the standard process for acquiring the rifle from the FFL
Am I over complicating this?
Thanks
Per KK reasoning, I am on the Big Island. To make it easy just give guns to me so you don't have to hassle with selling! :shaka: Maybe I should move this to drunk post??? :thumbsup:
Post by: moosed on June 08, 2013, 08:48:31 PM
Sorry if this is a stupid question.I was going to give you an even more complicated answer to your not too complicated question! Instead, I think you should contact an FFL in your county, and have them explain to you what is required by law.
I am on the BI and I have a post in the Classified: Firearms section with some of my rifles.
If I find a buyer on another island. What steps would you folks recommend I follow to stay safe and legal.
This is how I see it;
-Agree on price with buyer
-Buyer sends payment and copy of FFL info
-I ship to their FFL via USPS, FedEx, or UPS (as long guns can be shipped to an FFL from a private citizen)
-Buyer then goes through the standard process for acquiring the rifle from the FFL
Am I over complicating this?
Thanks
Even if an FFL is not required for a resident-to-resident transfer between islands, it might serve to protect you and the seller from the remote chance one of you decides to rip the other off.
The buyer's FFL can hold the firearm until you verify payment, and likewise buyer can inspect the firearm before sending payment. The FFL can be the "escrow" for the gun until you tell him to release it. Then the FFL will handle checking the buyer's ID and permit when the gun's picked up.
If the buyer is military or LE, OGC only charges a $25 FFL fee. Regular price is $40. A small price to pay for a valuable service.
Hope that helps! :shaka:
Post by: Kar Lorian on June 08, 2013, 11:42:59 PM
Post by: passivekinetic on July 15, 2013, 09:31:58 AM
Thanks
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 15, 2013, 10:11:53 AM
Quick question: If your long gun permit (the yearly one) has EXPIRED, then what? Just go and get another one just like the first time? Is there any difference between renewal BEFORE it expires (within the 14 days before expiration) or anytime AFTER expiration?
Thanks
Same thing, just if you wait till it expires, you'll be 2 weeks without a valid permit.
I'm going to let mine expire this year in an effort to slow down my gun acquisitions this year.
Post by: passivekinetic on July 15, 2013, 12:48:25 PM
I wish I had that much budget! LOL!
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 15, 2013, 01:43:54 PM
Post by: passivekinetic on July 15, 2013, 03:39:05 PM
I can't even be caught looking at Amazon most of the time LOL
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 15, 2013, 03:58:59 PM
What, to the boss woman? LOL
I can't even be caught looking at Amazon most of the time LOL
Just kidding.
Problem is I am very impulsive.
If I see something I want, I get it.
Post by: passivekinetic on July 15, 2013, 04:14:06 PM
Post by: 45Lima on July 22, 2013, 07:42:02 PM
Post by: passivekinetic on July 22, 2013, 09:21:32 PM
Can I pick up my brother handgun permit? I will have him make a note authorizing me to pick up the permit with one of his ID with me. Did anyone try this yet.
I highly doubt this is possible. The other more experienced guys can give you the final answer, but considering that even the most reasonable and logical things are made so difficult here, I wonder if this would be even possible.
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 22, 2013, 11:03:54 PM
Can I pick up my brother handgun permit? I will have him make a note authorizing me to pick up the permit with one of his ID with me. Did anyone try this yet.
Definitely not.
Post by: Heavies on July 23, 2013, 03:28:44 AM
Definitely not.This^^
Post by: 45Lima on July 23, 2013, 08:04:46 AM
Can I pick up my brother handgun permit? I will have him make a note authorizing me to pick up the permit with one of his ID with me. Did anyone try this yet.
Here at HPD. Answer is, I can't :shaka:
No line :shaka:
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 23, 2013, 08:30:09 AM
Here at HPD. Answer is, I can't :shaka:
No line :shaka:
Of course not.
Post by: TeamMidori on July 23, 2013, 08:44:25 AM
Idk try see next time
Can I pick up my brother handgun permit? I will have him make a note authorizing me to pick up the permit with one of his ID with me. Did anyone try this yet.
Post by: Coastierider on July 31, 2013, 03:00:33 PM
1- I don't need a hunter safety card for a long gun correct?
2- Does the "Mental Health Waiver" and "Firearm Application Questionnaire" and " Medical Info Waiver" need to be signed in front of a Notary? I see that it says "Witness signature
3- Im Active Duty, so I don't have a specific Flight Surgeon for the name of the physician, Do I need a Specific name?
4- Do I need to bring a passport photo for the Firearms Info Form
5- Also I dont have a specific long gun that I want, so I don't have the info for the Firearms Info form, Do I need to buy it first then go downtown with the serial Number?
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 31, 2013, 03:43:14 PM
Im going to go downtown to get my long gun permit and wanted to double check a few things
1- I don't need a hunter safety card for a long gun correct? Correct
2- Does the "Mental Health Waiver" and "Firearm Application Questionnaire" and " Medical Info Waiver" need to be signed in front of a Notary? I see that it says "Witness signature no, just sign it in front of the officer at the window, he will be your witness
3- Im Active Duty, so I don't have a specific Flight Surgeon for the name of the physician, Do I need a Specific name? No, just the hospital name (ie Tripler)
4- Do I need to bring a passport photo for the Firearms Info Form no
5- Also I dont have a specific long gun that I want, so I don't have the info for the Firearms Info form, Do I need to buy it first then go downtown with the serial Number?
No, the permit is good for a year and after you buy the long gun(s) you just bring them in and do the registration paperwork
Post by: Coastierider on July 31, 2013, 04:45:19 PM
Post by: passivekinetic on July 31, 2013, 04:51:58 PM
Thank you, just wanted to make sure, I didnt want to spend all morning downtown.
Bring everything. Bring your passport.
We did not bring our US passport one time when picking up the permit (after ALREADY showing it the first time) and were told we need it. Arguing gets you nowhere.
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 31, 2013, 05:56:36 PM
Bring everything. Bring your passport.
We did not bring our US passport one time when picking up the permit (after ALREADY showing it the first time) and were told we need it. Arguing gets you nowhere.
? ? ?
I've registered literally hundreds of guns and never brought a passport.
Weird.
We're you born out of the country?
Post by: JHanawahine on July 31, 2013, 06:41:05 PM
Post by: passivekinetic on July 31, 2013, 07:03:21 PM
? ? ?
I've registered literally hundreds of guns and never brought a passport.
Weird.
We're you born out of the country?
What? How did you prove you are American then? Everyone I know had to bring passport or something at least to prove citizenship, not just residence.
Post by: JHanawahine on July 31, 2013, 07:35:00 PM
What? How did you prove you are American then? Everyone I know had to bring passport or something at least to prove citizenship, not just residence.i don't even have a passport . Hawaii drivers license is all I use
Post by: OldFaithful on July 31, 2013, 08:00:19 PM
What? How did you prove you are American then? Everyone I know had to bring passport or something at least to prove citizenship, not just residence.
All they ever asked me was where I was born. Never had to physically prove citizenship, unless showing an id counts when they ask to verify paperwork.
Post by: passivekinetic on July 31, 2013, 09:19:44 PM
Post by: Kingkeoni on July 31, 2013, 11:10:59 PM
Anyway apparently they do sometimes ask. It's up to whoever is working there.
I guess you don't look American. :rofl:
I've never known anyone required to present a passport.
Did they tell you it's to prove citizenship?
Post by: moosed on July 31, 2013, 11:47:40 PM
Bring everything. Bring your passport.
We did not bring our US passport one time when picking up the permit (after ALREADY showing it the first time) and were told we need it. Arguing gets you nowhere.
When you applied for the permit, did you present other photo ID (license, military, ...), or just the passport? They may have needed it again for permit pickup because that's the ID you used when applying.
Post by: passivekinetic on August 01, 2013, 05:16:43 AM
Post by: moosed on August 01, 2013, 06:47:53 AM
OK makes sense. Anyway yeah, of course we bring DL, etc.
You may have brought other ID, but did you present it? If you had presented the license instead of the passport, you would have been asked for your license at permit pickup time. :shaka:
Post by: Coastierider on August 05, 2013, 11:22:47 AM
Post by: Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra on August 05, 2013, 12:28:25 PM
Can you apply for two handguns when you go downtown? Or do I have to do it separately and wait 14 days in between?
Apply for as many pistol permits to acquire as you need in one HPD visit. All permits applied for on a given day will be ready for pickup in 2 weeks. The more guns you buy at once, the more time and gas you save!!! :D
Post by: Coastierider on August 05, 2013, 01:26:57 PM
Post by: Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra on August 05, 2013, 02:07:25 PM
How do you get them to mail the permits to you? I stopped by the post office and tried to get " a self-addressed, certified restricted-delivery, pre-paid envelope (available at the U.S. Post Office) when coming for their initial application for permit" however the people at the post office had no clue what i was talking about.
You should be able to ask for a Priority Mail Small Flat Rate Envelope, with Certified Mail & Restricted Delivery services.
If asked for a mailing date, give them the date you would have picked the permit up.
I went online and calculated the postage from Mililani to Honolulu. Notice, the requested services are only able to be purchased at a Post Office, not online (no online prices).
. Address the envelope to yourself.
. Put HPD in the From/Return Address.
. Specify YOURSELF as the restricted delivery recipient.
It should be pretty easy to do. Here's the calculated cost, if you want to take it with you.
Hope this helps!
Post by: Coastierider on August 05, 2013, 04:01:18 PM
Post by: one2boost on August 15, 2013, 10:47:43 AM
I want to purchase these 2 pistols from my cousin, a Smith and Wesson 9mm and a Cobray PM-9/11(note this is the California legal semi-auto version not the full auto version). I know about the process of how to purchase handguns. I already took the Hunters Ed class and waiting to receive the certificate showing I took this said class and be able to purchase a hand gun. Keep in mind I already have the long gun premit as well.
The problem with my cousin's situation is, when he came back from the military 15 years or so ago, he never registered these pistols. From what he as told me, he bought these off of his squad leader at the time and the only paperwork he has is just a statement both parties signed stating party A sold these pistols to party B. He wants to sell these pistols to me as he has no intrest in firearms anymore. I don't ever recall him saying he punched a few rounds ever since he came back home. In any case how does one get these pistols registered?
I would guess my cousin would at the very least have to take the Hunters Ed class just to be qualified to register these pistols in his name. Then just wait a few weeks and head down to the police station for both of us to do the transfer, is that right?
Post by: BigDaddy31 on August 19, 2013, 05:00:40 PM
When you applied for the permit, did you present other photo ID (license, military, ...), or just the passport? They may have needed it again for permit pickup because that's the ID you used when applying.
I used my DL plus birth certificate. Don't tell me I have to bring my birth cert because I used that to get my passport.
Post by: Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra on August 19, 2013, 07:19:32 PM
I used my DL plus birth certificate. Don't tell me I have to bring my birth cert because I used that to get my passport.
Okay.
I won't tell you.
8)
Post by: Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra on August 19, 2013, 07:26:42 PM
Have fun!
p.s. If you have no more certified copies of your birth certificate, you might want to order a couple soon ... before you actually do need it. Just my "be prepared" side talking! :shaka:
Post by: BigDaddy31 on August 20, 2013, 05:49:09 AM
But seriously, everyone knows you need a BC to get a passport. So which document you take is no big deal. They are both proof of naturalization and identity. The passport has your picture,too, so that one will be better anyway.
Have fun!
p.s. If you have no more certified copies of your birth certificate, you might want to order a couple soon ... before you actually do need it. Just my "be prepared" side talking! :shaka:
Oh boy...might make the trip to town worthless then. I had to submit my only copy of BC in order renew my passport. I don't expect that to come back for another 4-6 weeks because I thought I wouldn't need the BC any longer. Once I get the passport, I'm golden...oh boy
Post by: Kingkeoni on August 20, 2013, 07:28:16 AM
Oh boy...might make the trip to town worthless then. I had to submit my only copy of BC in order renew my passport. I don't expect that to come back for another 4-6 weeks because I thought I wouldn't need the BC any longer. Once I get the passport, I'm golden...oh boy
The birth certificate office is only a few blocks from HPD.
Spend $10 and get another copy.
Post by: BigDaddy31 on August 20, 2013, 07:42:19 AM
The birth certificate office is only a few blocks from HPD.Ahhh, if it were but that easy. Thanks for the advice but unfortunately I was born in Japan, Japanese hospital but naturalized citizen because my dad was in the Air Force. To obtain a proper BC, I had to get that from the State Dept (Federal) which cost $50 and I had to wait 4-6 weeks for that. Going to go down anyway, show my military ID and DL, hope for the best but expecting the worse. The only good thing is that at least I know there's a way of getting the approved application mailed back instead of having to go all the way down again, just to pickup.
Spend $10 and get another copy.
Oh yeah, to obtain a copy of the BC is $50 a piece plus you're required to submit a notarized statement of that request. Jeez, I should've asked for two but figured I only need just the one (sigh).
Post by: Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra on August 20, 2013, 09:13:55 AM
Ahhh, if it were but that easy. Thanks for the advice but unfortunately I was born in Japan, Japanese hospital but naturalized citizen because my dad was in the Air Force. To obtain a proper BC, I had to get that from the State Dept (Federal) which cost $50 and I had to wait 4-6 weeks for that. Going to go down anyway, show my military ID and DL, hope for the best but expecting the worse. The only good thing is that at least I know there's a way of getting the approved application mailed back instead of having to go all the way down again, just to pickup.
Oh yeah, to obtain a copy of the BC is $50 a piece plus you're required to submit a notarized statement of that request. Jeez, I should've asked for two but figured I only need just the one (sigh).
After you get your BC in hand, take it to the clerk of deeds and vital records. Have them file a certified copy (usually free service). Also, request some certified copies (probably need to pay for that). That way, you don't shell out $50/copy. Plus, if you ever need another copy, you can get it from a local agency. Certified copies are just as good as an original.
I have all my vital docs, including military separation papers, certified and filed with the county clerk.
Hope that tip is helpful. :shaka:
Post by: passivekinetic on August 20, 2013, 10:15:15 AM
Post by: Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra on August 20, 2013, 10:33:54 AM
Can you certify copy ANY document from ANYWHERE or just US documentation?
If the document you present to the clerk is a verifiable original (raised seal, notary stamp, etc.), they will be able to certify the copy. Country of origin should be a non-issue.
Of course, sometimes it depends on who is helping you that day! We all know how that goes, huh?
The only thing the clerk cares about the document is that it is an original ... not a copy. They then create a certified copy. The whole idea is, once that certified copy exists, you have an official "snapshot" of the original. This by no means implies the clerk knows for a fact the document they copied is 100% authentic. Only that the document you presented was an original, and it looked exactly like the copy they have on file.
This process was recommended for my DD214 Separation Form from the military. You are given 2 onion-skin "originals" (carbon copies) ... one with the type of discharge at the bottom, and one without. Since it is a difficult, if not impossible, task for the government to provide a replacement, we were given the advice to have the DD214 registered with the clerk of deeds in our county and to keep certified copies for our own records. Easy, quick, and relatively cheap "insurance" against loss of vital records.
Post by: Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra on August 20, 2013, 10:50:03 AM
Can you certify copy ANY document from ANYWHERE or just US documentation?
One other thing, in Honolulu County, the Clerk of Vital Records only creates certified copies of birth, death, and marriage/civil union certificates. Other records need to be filed with the Records Office:
http://www.processserverhawaii.com/files/Doc-Deed_Recording_Fees.pdf (http://www.processserverhawaii.com/files/Doc-Deed_Recording_Fees.pdf)
Honolulu does charge, whereas my county where I separated from the military did not.
REGULAR SYSTEM:
Recording Fee $25.00 per document up to 20 pages. $1.00 per page after initial 20 pages.
Non-conforming fee (exceeds 8 1/2 x 11 inches and double sided) $20.00
Certified copies are $1 per page
It costs you once to file it (either $25 or $45, depending on the paper size), then $1 for each copy you get.
I recommend contacting the Records office and see if this information is still correct. I would start there, and see whether they send you to the vital records office or not.
Post by: passivekinetic on August 20, 2013, 11:43:05 AM
Post by: BigDaddy31 on August 23, 2013, 07:17:16 AM
When I went down to pick up my application after the requisite 14 days, I only had to show my DL. The application clearly indicated I was born abroad (damn citizen part was crossed out, red circled w/the words "Born Abroad w/the document number). Good part was that I just had to pull my DL out and nothing else so it wasn't a wasted trip (whew). I was so concerned the guy behind the counter was going to ask for a look see on the BC again. Reading through other postings, whatever documents you used when you originally filed will be asked again when you pick up. I had to show my DL plus my BC when I originally filed.
I was prepared to point out that if it had been mailed to me as outlined, the postal person would never ask for a BC, just proof of identity and I have two; a DL issued by the State of Hawaii and work ID issued by the Army.
The only bummer of the day was getting to a store and finding out they ran out of Mossbergs...so sad. Wanted to obtain the shotgun and go back to have it registered since I'm already in town. Oh well...
Post by: passivekinetic on August 23, 2013, 07:44:05 AM
Post by: BigDaddy31 on August 23, 2013, 08:46:42 AM
Post by: passivekinetic on August 23, 2013, 08:51:57 AM
On another note, what type of identification will be asked when I do finally make the purchase? Will a DL suffice or because my application does have "born abroad" will I have to pull out my BC again? Thanks.
The gun store will only require you to show 1) photo ID (such as driver's license) and 2) your permit for the long gun (valid for 1 year).
For handguns, you have to already have purchased the handgun before you apply with the HPD so I assume you are only asking about long guns.
Otherwise, you need to show 3) proof of your handgun training or your hunter's education, when you buy at the gun store, but you then have to go through the ENTIRE process again at HPD to get the permit for the handgun (that you already paid for). Haha.
Post by: BigDaddy31 on August 23, 2013, 09:16:37 AM
The gun store will only require you to show 1) photo ID (such as driver's license) and 2) your permit for the long gun (valid for 1 year).
For handguns, you have to already have purchased the handgun before you apply with the HPD so I assume you are only asking about long guns.
Otherwise, you need to show 3) proof of your handgun training or your hunter's education, when you buy at the gun store, but you then have to go through the ENTIRE process again at HPD to get the permit for the handgun (that you already paid for). Haha.
Thanks, guess the flip side is what HPD will require in terms of ID. Will I be required to show my BC again or will they simply accept the sales slip, application, DL and of course the long gun itself?
Post by: passivekinetic on August 23, 2013, 09:20:59 AM
Better get your passport ASAP for future use.
Also note that there is a new type of passport CARD (not valid for air travel yet, just land and sea). Check it out. Can keep in wallet.
Post by: BigDaddy31 on August 23, 2013, 09:38:34 AM
I don't think they need to see your BC anymore since you already got the Long gun permit.
Better get your passport ASAP for future use.
Also note that there is a new type of passport CARD (not valid for air travel yet, just land and sea). Check it out. Can keep in wallet.
Thanks PK, hope you're right about the BC.
I've already submitted my app to renew my passport bu they required I submit all the documentation (including my only copy of BC), hence why I'm so concerned about it. I didn't have it rushed since I'm not expecting to go on a trip abroad any time soon. I just wanted to have it updated for future use including renewal of DL <G>.
Post by: passivekinetic on August 23, 2013, 10:16:02 AM
Post by: BigDaddy31 on August 23, 2013, 10:55:47 AM
Well you got one year to get the long gun registered. In the meantime you can buy and keep the gun at the LGS.One year to register? You mean the approved permit is good for one year right? My understanding is that you need to register ownership of the gun within 5 days
Post by: Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra on August 23, 2013, 10:58:37 AM
One year to register? You mean the approved permit is good for one year right? My understanding is that you need to register ownership of the gun within 5 days
You have 5 days from the date you fill out the federal ATF form at the gun shop. If you pay for the gun and let the shop hold it, there's no time limit. You won't fill out the ATF form until you pick the gun up. That's when the clock starts.
Post by: passivekinetic on August 23, 2013, 11:07:41 AM
Either wait until you get your passport, or if you cannot wait for your passport because you are afraid someone will buy that gun you absolutely must have, then go to the LGS, pay them the cash for the gun, and leave it there.
Once you get the passport, go to the LGS and get the gun. At that time you will fill out the forms. Bring it to HPD to register within 5 days of taking possession. (i.e., the LGS has transferred ownership of the firearm to you).
Post by: BigDaddy31 on August 23, 2013, 12:45:48 PM
Post by: numbertwo on September 18, 2013, 10:10:17 PM
Could some one point me in the right direction?
Post by: Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra on September 18, 2013, 10:12:56 PM
I plan to buy my friends shotgun but I forgot how to go about doing that.
Could some one point me in the right direction?
http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=222.msg770#msg770 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=222.msg770#msg770)
Post by: BLKDRGN on September 19, 2013, 07:44:37 AM
Post by: OldFaithful on September 19, 2013, 02:37:36 PM
I bought a long gun from my friend. He only gave me a copy of his registration. Is that good enough for me to register?
I think he may need to be there to sign over the gun
Post by: JHanawahine on September 19, 2013, 02:56:08 PM
I bought a long gun from my friend. He only gave me a copy of his registration. Is that good enough for me to register?name,address ,phone number is all u need.
Post by: numbertwo on September 19, 2013, 09:56:39 PM
http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=222.msg770#msg770 (http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=222.msg770#msg770)
So register it like a bought it from the store?
Just get the firearm and bring it down to register it? My friend doesn't need to sign anything?
Post by: Kingkeoni on September 19, 2013, 10:04:40 PM
Post by: one2boost on September 25, 2013, 01:12:46 PM
What if I find an ad for a rifle/pistol on another island. I set up the transaction for me to travel to that island. Do I register the firearm at that island's police station? Or do I just take it home to my island and register to my local PD within the 3 or 5 days?
Post by: numbertwo on November 03, 2013, 12:33:09 AM
Can I buy a rifle from my friend and take it with me to register when I pick up my renewed permit? Maybe I could keep it in the car, get my permit, walk back to the car and get the rifle to register it?
Also, name, address, phone number all I need to register a rifle bought from my friend? I don't need the barrel length, make and model or anything like that?
I know I asked this just a few posts away but the responses I got were pretty vague and not even in complete sentences. Forgive me for wanting specifics, but it's always better safe than sorry especially with firearms.
Thanks in advance
Post by: Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra on November 03, 2013, 11:34:05 AM
I renewed my long gun permit. I'm in the waiting period.
Can I buy a rifle from my friend and take it with me to register when I pick up my renewed permit? Maybe I could keep it in the car, get my permit, walk back to the car and get the rifle to register it?
Also, name, address, phone number all I need to register a rifle bought from my friend? I don't need the barrel length, make and model or anything like that?
I know I asked this just a few posts away but the responses I got were pretty vague and not even in complete sentences. Forgive me for wanting specifics, but it's always better safe than sorry especially with firearms.
Thanks in advance
Your friend can loan the rifle to you, so there's no problem having it with you at the police station. Can't loan handguns, but long guns are okay.
If you have the registration control number (G- number) from the friend's permit to acquire, it would help expedite things.
Post by: numbertwo on November 03, 2013, 03:10:30 PM
Your friend can loan the rifle to you, so there's no problem having it with you at the police station. Can't loan handguns, but long guns are okay.
If you have the registration control number (G- number) from the friend's permit to acquire, it would help expedite things.
Very nice. I has planning on having him give me a copy of his registration when I buy his rifle. Is there anything else He would need to do other than give me the rifle and his info?
Post by: JHanawahine on November 03, 2013, 03:15:27 PM
Very nice. I has planning on having him give me a copy of his registration when I buy his rifle. Is there anything else He would need to do other than give me the rifle and his info?
http://www.hawaiipolice.com/wp-content/themes/hawaiipolice/forms/gun-transfer.html (http://www.hawaiipolice.com/wp-content/themes/hawaiipolice/forms/gun-transfer.html)
Post by: numbertwo on November 03, 2013, 05:31:12 PM
http://www.hawaiipolice.com/wp-content/themes/hawaiipolice/forms/gun-transfer.html (http://www.hawaiipolice.com/wp-content/themes/hawaiipolice/forms/gun-transfer.html)
Ah! equally as nice!
Okay, let me run it down and as soon as I get the seal of approval from you guys I promise to stop asking! ;D
1. Pay friend for rifle and acquire rifle, along with rifle info and seller info.
2. Bring rifle and all the info collected(and my permit of course) in to register under my name.
3. Have friend fill out Police Commission Complaint Form and mail it in within 2 days.
4. ??
5. Happy shooting?
Did I get it right?
Post by: ej20chris on December 11, 2013, 12:34:13 PM
I have a question about family transfers in Hawaii.
I'll explain a little situation. Me and my dad both own firearms, however he has a long gun permit to acquire and i don't (my guns were purchased in cali, however we both live in Hawaii now)
To save me some hassle from multiple trips to HPD and waiting, would it be possible to have my dad purchase a few AR lowers with his long gun permit, receive them the same day, then transfer to me? This way I would only have to make one trip to HPD to register the lowers in my name.
I know in california, family transfers of long guns are paperless and do not require an FFL to get involved. I was wondering if Hawaii was the same way?
Thank you
Post by: Bota-CS1 on December 11, 2013, 03:06:47 PM
Hi guys,
I have a question about family transfers in Hawaii.
I'll explain a little situation. Me and my dad both own firearms, however he has a long gun permit to acquire and i don't (my guns were purchased in cali, however we both live in Hawaii now)
To save me some hassle from multiple trips to HPD and waiting, would it be possible to have my dad purchase a few AR lowers with his long gun permit, receive them the same day, then transfer to me? This way I would only have to make one trip to HPD to register the lowers in my name.
I know in california, family transfers of long guns are paperless and do not require an FFL to get involved. I was wondering if Hawaii was the same way?
Thank you
I'm not a atty but I'm sure that no matter which way you go you'll need to get a long gun permit at some point. When I transferred my dad's old shotgun to my name I just brought a signed "letter of transfer" along with my lg permit to hpd and it went the same as registering any other long gun. I really can't think of any other way for this to work the way you want it to without resorting to having to borrow the lg everytume you use it. Perhaps one of the more experienced board members can think of a way.
Post by: Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra on December 11, 2013, 09:15:38 PM
Hi guys,
I have a question about family transfers in Hawaii.
I'll explain a little situation. Me and my dad both own firearms, however he has a long gun permit to acquire and i don't (my guns were purchased in cali, however we both live in Hawaii now)
To save me some hassle from multiple trips to HPD and waiting, would it be possible to have my dad purchase a few AR lowers with his long gun permit, receive them the same day, then transfer to me? This way I would only have to make one trip to HPD to register the lowers in my name.
I know in california, family transfers of long guns are paperless and do not require an FFL to get involved. I was wondering if Hawaii was the same way?
Thank you
From the ATF Form 4473, which your father would have to sign:
Quote
Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form?
Warning: You are not the actual buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are not the actual buyer, the dealer cannot transfer the firearm(s) to you.
(See Instructions for Question 11.a.) Exception: If you are picking up a repaired firearm(s) for another person, you are not required to answer 11.a. and may proceed to question 11.b.
Depending on your interpretation, this could cause a problem. Recently, Gabby Giffords' husband tried to buy an AR-15 using the excuse (after he made the news) that it was to demonstrate how quickly and easily buying one can be. The shop owner saw the news, and because Giffird's said he intended to donate the rifle to an anit-gun group versus keeping it, the shop owner canceled the sale. He cited the rule above, and stated the purchase was in violation because the gun was going to someone who is not the actual buyer.
I'm not sure if there is a magic number of days to wait before doing the second transfer. Just giving you a heads up. Basically, YOU are the actual buyer. Your father is acting as a go-between for the sake of convenience.
Doing both transfers to him and you the same day could maybe raise a red flag.
Post by: Kingkeoni on December 12, 2013, 04:01:37 AM
Hi guys,
I have a question about family transfers in Hawaii.
I'll explain a little situation. Me and my dad both own firearms, however he has a long gun permit to acquire and i don't (my guns were purchased in cali, however we both live in Hawaii now)
To save me some hassle from multiple trips to HPD and waiting, would it be possible to have my dad purchase a few AR lowers with his long gun permit, receive them the same day, then transfer to me? This way I would only have to make one trip to HPD to register the lowers in my name.
I know in california, family transfers of long guns are paperless and do not require an FFL to get involved. I was wondering if Hawaii was the same way?
Thank you
You would still have to make two trips.
A) Yes your Father can buy lowers in his name with his long gun permit and transfer them to you at a later date, unless you are prohibited from firearm ownership.
B) On Oahu, in order for him to transfer them to you, you will have to have a valid long gun permit.
C) You can apply for the long gun permit and on the day you pick up the permit, have your Dad meet you there and transfer them to you.
This is perfectly legal and does not require an FFL.
Post by: Tom on January 20, 2014, 02:48:18 AM
You would still have to make two trips.
A) Yes your Father can buy lowers in his name with his long gun permit and transfer them to you at a later date, unless you are prohibited from firearm ownership.
Just ran across this and thought I'd post. I would highly recommend not doing this. There is a case before the US Supreme Court (Abramski v. United States) right now that will decide this very issue. Abramski bought a Glock using his police discount and transferred it through an FFL to his uncle. The ATF charged him with being a straw purchaser even though he did everything through FFLs in order to try and remain squeaky clean.
http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/abramski-v-united-states/ (http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/abramski-v-united-states/)
Post by: dustoff003 on January 20, 2014, 08:16:45 AM
Post by: Darmok and Jalad @Tanagra on January 20, 2014, 10:58:10 AM
Do you have to go through the permit to acquire process for a private party person to person handgun purchase, or can you buy it and then go reregister similar to an out of state purchase?
Standard practice for handgun purchases between Hawaii residents is:
1. Meet seller and inspect handgun. If satisfied, pay for the gun. Seller retains possession to avoid you being in possession of a handgun not registered to you (can't loan handguns in Hawaii); Get a receipt for payment detailing the handgun; a copy of the sellers registration would help;
2. You apply for the permit to acquire and wait 2 weeks. Showing the previous owner's permit is helpful.
3. After 2 weeks, both meet at HPD and do the permit pickup and final registration in one trip. Buyer takes the gun with him/her.
4. Seller submits the required paperwork to HPD so that weapon no longer shows registered to him/her.
Post by: dustoff003 on January 20, 2014, 11:37:39 AM
Post by: bass monkey on February 02, 2014, 03:16:43 PM
Post by: bass monkey on February 02, 2014, 03:21:50 PM
When he gets back does he register them as out of state purchase or?
I hope he was smart enough to get his long gun permit before he left. If not, should he get his permit first then register it as out of state while his attorney holds onto the rifle? Or just register them as private transaction.
Post by: Dolomite on February 02, 2014, 04:04:55 PM
I got a question. If I let my long gun permit expire, when I reapply on molokai do I need to pay the $16.50 again?
Not sure about Molokai but Oahu it's free to renew.
Post by: bass monkey on February 02, 2014, 04:12:31 PM
Not sure about Molokai but Oahu it's free to renew.
Thanks bro thought that was kinda odd. I'll be sure to specify I'm renewing and not getting a new permit when I go down.
Post by: fstbckgt on February 02, 2014, 04:17:28 PM
Post by: bass monkey on February 02, 2014, 04:25:36 PM
On a side note, payment must be in cashiers check or money order to Hawaii criminal justice data center
And hours/days are Monday, Wednesday, Friday, 9am-12pm and 1pm-4pm.
Post by: searider9duece on March 06, 2014, 11:58:23 AM
Post by: hyperstang00 on March 23, 2014, 02:16:48 PM
I wanna buy a handgun from a friend of mine, so a private sale. What will I need from the owner when I go down to HPD to register?
Post by: dustoff003 on March 23, 2014, 02:26:04 PM
Hey guys...sorry if its been already answered..but my eyes are killing me..lol!!
I wanna buy a handgun from a friend of mine, so a private sale. What will I need from the owner when I go down to HPD to register?
I know it's your friend but most folks doing private sales will meet the seller at HPD to do the transfer, once you get your permit the seller has to sign the back of it.
When you go to apply for your permit to acquire you will need all of the pertinent information about the handgun being purchased, i.e. Manufacturer, Model, Serial Number, Barrel Length, Caliber, Country of Origin, ect. Probably the easiest thing you can do is bring a copy of the current registration form with you when you go to apply for your permit to acquire.
Hopefully you have not taken possession of the handgun yet have you?
Post by: hyperstang00 on March 23, 2014, 04:37:52 PM
I know it's your friend but most folks doing private sales will meet the seller at HPD to do the transfer, once you get your permit the seller has to sign the back of it.
When you go to apply for your permit to acquire you will need all of the pertinent information about the handgun being purchased, i.e. Manufacturer, Model, Serial Number, Barrel Length, Caliber, Country of Origin, ect. Probably the easiest thing you can do is bring a copy of the current registration form with you when you go to apply for your permit to acquire.
Hopefully you have not taken possession of the handgun yet have you?
Of course not..lol!! he still has the revolver. It's going to be hard to have my friend meet me at HPD. Our schedules are really off. So best I have the old permit with me when I apply for the permit to aquire?
Post by: dustoff003 on March 23, 2014, 06:49:38 PM
Of course not..lol!! he still has the revolver. It's going to be hard to have my friend meet me at HPD. Our schedules are really off. So best I have the old permit with me when I apply for the permit to aquire?
It would be helpful to have a copy of his registration (you wrote permit above but I think you mean registration) because it has the required pertinent information for your permit. If not look at a registration paper if you have one and make sure you have all the info. required to complete one for your new handgun.
Post by: yurcarmeean on April 01, 2014, 05:24:22 AM
Post by: Inspector on April 01, 2014, 05:29:18 AM
does the permit to acquire handgun cost money like the 16fitty for long guns?The 16.50 is a one time only fee for any type of gun registration. Makes no difference if it is pistol or rifle. Once you pay it, you never have to pay it again.
Post by: yurcarmeean on April 01, 2014, 05:43:35 AM
The 16.50 is a one time only fee for any type of gun registration. Makes no difference if it is pistol or rifle. Once you pay it, you never have to pay it again.
thanks but sorry a bit confused here but i thought the $16.50 fee was for the "permit to purchase long guns" because it requires FBI background checks and fingerprinting etc. but you are saying that it is for registration? i thought registration of a purchased gun was free and the "permit to purchase long guns" is what i pay for.... which is why i asked if the permit to purchase handguns also entails a fee of $16.50 .... am i right or wrong?!!??!
Post by: yurcarmeean on April 01, 2014, 05:46:05 AM
does the hunter's ed "certificate of completion" count as the "notarized affidavit" needed to acquire handgun purchase permit? I don't recall receiving a notarized document upon completion of the DLNR hunter's ed class besides the certificate of completion and accompanying wallet card.
mahalo :shaka:
Post by: saguy on April 01, 2014, 05:15:27 PM
different but related question:
does the hunter's ed "certificate of completion" count as the "notarized affidavit" needed to acquire handgun purchase permit? I don't recall receiving a notarized document upon completion of the DLNR hunter's ed class besides the certificate of completion and accompanying wallet card.
mahalo :shaka:
I have not picked up a handgun in awhile so someone else can confirm this but you should be fine with just your Hunter's Ed card.
Post by: stangzilla on April 01, 2014, 05:19:14 PM
I have not picked up a handgun in awhile so someone else can confirm this but you should be fine with just your Hunter's Ed card.
yes, you are correct, sir. :shaka:
Post by: stangzilla on April 01, 2014, 05:24:47 PM
he said no need the registration, just the info on the gun, and the name, address and phone number of the seller.
along with your info
attached is a form I made to do private transfers
Post by: yurcarmeean on April 01, 2014, 05:50:48 PM
thanks but sorry a bit confused here but i thought the $16.50 fee was for the "permit to purchase long guns" because it requires FBI background checks and fingerprinting etc. but you are saying that it is for registration (edit: registration of the firearm)? i thought registration of a purchased gun was free and the "permit to purchase long guns" is what i pay for.... which is why i asked if the permit to purchase handguns also entails a fee of $16.50 .... am i right or wrong?!!??!
can anybody clarify this? ???
and thanks about the hunters ed / handgun permit info :thumbsup:
Post by: 2aHawaii on April 01, 2014, 06:00:08 PM
can anybody clarify this? ???
and thanks about the hunters ed / handgun permit info :thumbsup:
Your first permit to acquire (long gun or handgun) will be charged the fee. All subsequent permits will not require the fingerprint fee.
Post by: Inspector on April 01, 2014, 06:33:36 PM
Your first permit to acquire (long gun or handgun) will be charged the fee. All subsequent permits will not require the fingerprint fee.Isn't that what I said? ???
Post by: yurcarmeean on April 01, 2014, 07:15:56 PM
The 16.50 is a one time only fee for any type of gun registration. Makes no difference if it is pistol or rifle. Once you pay it, you never have to pay it again.
you referred to gun registration which threw me off because i was wondering about the "permit to acquire handgun"
but all is good! now i understand that the fee is a fingerprinting fee and that it is only charged upon the first permit to acquire whether it be handgun or long gun ... i needed to know this because i bought my rifle in 2011 but i haven't bought a handgun so i wanted to be familiarized with the process i.e. if i need to bring money and exact change when i get my permit to acquire handgun or renew my permit to acquire long gun
mahalo :shaka:
Post by: Inspector on April 01, 2014, 07:21:31 PM
you referred to gun registration which threw me off because i was wondering about the "permit to acquire handgun"Sorry about that. I thought I was bein clear when I said on e you pay it, you never have to pay it again.
but all is good! now i understand that the fee is a fingerprinting fee and that it is only charged upon the first permit to acquire whether it be handgun or long gun ... i needed to know this because i bought my rifle in 2011 but i haven't bought a handgun so i wanted to be familiarized with the process i.e. if i need to bring money and exact change when i get my permit to acquire handgun or renew my permit to acquire long gun
mahalo :shaka:
Post by: yurcarmeean on April 01, 2014, 07:59:46 PM
Sorry about that. I thought I was bein clear when I said on e you pay it, you never have to pay it again.
no my bad! after all i was the confused one... :wacko:
mahalo :shaka:
Post by: Inspector on April 01, 2014, 08:10:56 PM
no my bad! after all i was the confused one... :wacko:It can be difficult on a forum communicating. I hope you don't feel bad. We are all here to try and help each other. And you got your answer. Which is the most important thing. I learned something from this. Hopefully I can better communicate my answers so as to avoid confusion.
mahalo :shaka:
Post by: yurcarmeean on April 01, 2014, 09:20:32 PM
It can be difficult on a forum communicating. I hope you don't feel bad. We are all here to try and help each other. And you got your answer. Which is the most important thing. I learned something from this. Hopefully I can better communicate my answers so as to avoid confusion.
i totally get you, i'm still learning too. mahalo for the helps
Post by: Gunguy808 on April 17, 2014, 09:26:41 PM
Post by: macsak on April 17, 2014, 09:32:33 PM
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO DELETE A POST YOU HAVE MADE? I SOLD THE ITEM IN A FEW OF MY POSTS SO I WANT TO REMOVE THEM NOW....????
first, turn off your caps lock key
then, go to the post, and click "modify"
you can then change it to SOLD in the subject
and then i think there is a button to lock the thread
Post by: 2aHawaii on April 18, 2014, 07:06:06 AM
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO DELETE A POST YOU HAVE MADE? I SOLD THE ITEM IN A FEW OF MY POSTS SO I WANT TO REMOVE THEM NOW....????
Yes, turn off the caps lock key, then post an update saying sold and lock the topic. It'll be near bottom of the page above the quick reply box.
Post by: Downfall on May 02, 2014, 08:22:19 AM
B. Have a Security clearance w/government which also have been finger printed. Would I still need to be Finger Printed?
Post by: dustoff003 on May 02, 2014, 09:06:34 AM
Anyone know if you have to get finger printed if you A. Have worked for a DOD Type job which finger printed me awhile back.
B. Have a Security clearance w/government which also have been finger printed. Would I still need to be Finger Printed?
A&B yes and yes unless you have been fingerprinted by HPD Firearms division before you will have to get finger printed the first time you go to register. I think the fee is $16.50? Having exact change would help you out.
Post by: yurcarmeean on May 08, 2014, 09:26:30 PM
I already have a long gun permit. So do i need to bring proof of citizenship again (i.e. passport or SS card)?
If not then alls I need to bring is:
1. valid ID
2. hunter education card from DLNR
3. gun, FFL, and seller info and,
4. long gun permit
(never had a DUI etc etc)
correct?
Just wanna make sure one last time that I have all the pertinents.
Mahaloz
Post by: Jl808 on May 08, 2014, 10:42:33 PM
Post by: Gino on June 11, 2014, 05:54:08 PM
I a trade between two private parties, a long gun for a handgun, what would be the best method of trade?
Would it be for the party receiving the handgun in the trade to first apply for the permit to acquire the handgun with the serial #number and all the info,
Then two weeks later make the exchange at the HPD?
Hypothetical: If the party applying for the handgun permit does not actually receive the handgun, i.e. the owner reneges on the trade,
what does the person with the permit to acquire have to do? or what should they do? If you have a permit to acquire a specific handgun and are not able to register it because you don't have it...?
The person with the permit has 5 days to register the handgun once acquired, but what if they never acquire the gun? Thank you in advance for all your help.
Post by: Heavies on June 11, 2014, 06:02:34 PM
Private Party Trade Question
I a trade between two private parties, a long gun for a handgun, what would be the best method of trade?
Would it be for the party receiving the handgun in the trade to first apply for the permit to acquire the handgun with the serial #number and all the info,
Then two weeks later make the exchange at the HPD?
Hypothetical: If the party applying for the handgun permit does not actually receive the handgun, i.e. the owner reneges on the trade,
what does the person with the permit to acquire have to do? or what should they do? If you have a permit to acquire a specific handgun and are not able to register it because you don't have it...?
The person with the permit has 5 days to register the handgun once acquired, but what if they never acquire the gun? Thank you in advance for all your help.
The person receiving the hand gun needs to get all their paper in order before the trade, then trade at HPD.
If person reneges the handgun trade, then cancel the trade, and inform HPD the transfer will no longer take place.
Long gun will not come into play until the day of, and should not have to worry about that, assuming all your paper is in order to receive ownership of long gun. (ie permit to acquire long gun)
Post by: dogman on June 11, 2014, 07:21:37 PM
Post by: OpenCarryHawaii on June 24, 2014, 07:28:05 PM
Post by: Kingkeoni on June 24, 2014, 07:40:35 PM
Is there a two week wait for private party sale of used handguns? Is it the same process as buying new from a dealer/gun shop? I'm thinking of buying a used pistol from the classified section of the forum. I have my NRA Hand Gun Training affidavit, current long gun permit to aquire (fingerprints on record). I've gone through the process for new guns but not used guns yet. Thanks in advance.
Process is exactly the same...
Get the info needed to register the pistol, take it to HPD and apply for the pistol permit.
14 days later, meet the seller at HPD and complete the transaction there. (At the window, so they can process it to you in front of both parties)
Post by: OpenCarryHawaii on June 24, 2014, 08:28:18 PM
Post by: luxurysport on October 14, 2014, 08:54:13 PM
Post by: Wake27 on October 14, 2014, 09:19:36 PM
Post by: suka on October 14, 2014, 10:48:27 PM
Ive been searching and cant find an answer. Hoping someone can help. If I am travelling out of hawaii to a state that has less restrictions than HI and may purchase a firearm from someone. I plan to pack in luggage and notify the air carrier of the transport etc, but when I return to HI, then what? Do I have 72 hours to register? Do I need a valid permit to acquire? How does this work for handguns?Private sales are not regulated in most states. no background checks or nics are required, just cash and carry.
just fly it back, bring it into HPD and register it as anyone normally does.
person at the window will ask you where you got it from. just say mainland.
Post by: fro on April 09, 2015, 01:22:27 PM
Post by: macsak on April 09, 2015, 03:10:01 PM
What would you have to do to transfer handgun ownership from a deceased family member?Ex. Member has been gone several years but only now discover some firearms
Executor of the estate needs to sign a notarized letter stating they are to be transferred
Post by: gtrpnoyracer on September 16, 2015, 08:21:07 PM
Once you've picked up your permit, you have 10 days before the permit expires and you HAVE to return to hpd within 48 hours after picking up firearm from the shop? Correct me if I'm wrong. Was told they recently changed it from 5 to 2 days to return and register .Thanks
For example would this be okay to do if the above is true?
Permit was picked up 9/14
Pick up firearm on Friday
Return to hpd on 9/21
Post by: suka on September 16, 2015, 08:27:41 PM
Yo guys just wanted to Clarify the registration process of an instate firearm portion
Once you've picked up your permit, you have 10 days before the permit expires and you HAVE to return to hpd within 48 hours after picking up firearm from the shop? Correct me if I'm wrong. Was told they recently changed it from 5 to 2 days to return and register .Thanks
For example would this be okay to do if the above is true?
Permit was picked up 9/14
Pick up firearm on Friday
Return to hpd on 9/21
Just copied direct from www.capital.hawaii.gov/HRS/
(b) Every person who acquires a firearm pursuant to section 134-2 shall register the firearm in the manner prescribed by this section within five days of acquisition.
Post by: suka on September 16, 2015, 08:29:59 PM
HPD cannot make up its own laws.
Post by: dogman on September 16, 2015, 08:39:01 PM
Yes
For example would this be okay to do if the above is true?
Permit was picked up 9/14
Pick up firearm on Friday
Return to hpd on 9/21
Post by: stangzilla on September 17, 2015, 05:47:40 AM
Handgun 3 days
Iirc
Post by: mauidog on September 17, 2015, 12:56:06 PM
Rifle 5 days
Handgun 3 days
Iirc
Quote
Every person who acquires a firearm pursuant to section 134-2 shall register the firearm in the manner prescribed by this section within five days of acquisition.
There is confusion on the handgun time limit because the law says 5 days (see quote above), and the back of the permit says either 2 or 3. I asked the gun shop about that, since it doesn't say "calendar days", what happens if you pick up on a Friday and there's a 3-day weekend? He just shrugged. I've registered handguns on the 4th and 5th days after "acquisition", and no one at HPD ever mentioned the shorter time limit.
Quote
Permits issued to acquire any pistol or revolver shall be void unless used within ten days after the date of issue.
It's more important to pick up the permit and complete the registration process before the 10th day after it was issued.
If you show up after the 24th day (14 days of waiting plus the 10 days it's good for), they may (and have) make you reapply for the permit and wait 2 weeks again.
Post by: dogman on September 17, 2015, 06:18:32 PM
I asked the gun shop about that, since it doesn't say "calendar days", what happens if you pick up on a Friday and there's a 3-day weekend? He just shrugged. I've registered handguns on the 4th and 5th days after "acquisition", and no one at HPD ever mentioned the shorter time limit.I have also registered hand guns five days after being acquired from the gun shop with no remarks from HPD. I asked HPD about picking up a handgun on the day before a three day weekend and the officer told me just bring it in the next time we are open. I also asked them about being a couple of days late and they said just don't be a couple of weeks late.
Post by: OldFaithful on September 28, 2015, 07:20:42 PM
"As an option, applicants may have their processed permits mailed to them. Applicants need to provide a self-addressed pre-paid envelope, certified restricted-delivery return receipt required(available at the U.S. Post Office) at time of application for permit."
The first part is obvious, basically just give them an envelope with your address on it. What does the second part mean? I gotta go to the post office and they do something before I go and apply?
Thanks! :shaka:
Post by: Wake27 on September 29, 2015, 04:46:24 AM
Post by: mauidog on September 29, 2015, 07:22:49 AM
Can someone give me a rundown on how the somewhat new mailing permits process goes?
"As an option, applicants may have their processed permits mailed to them. Applicants need to provide a self-addressed pre-paid envelope, certified restricted-delivery return receipt required(available at the U.S. Post Office) at time of application for permit."
The first part is obvious, basically just give them an envelope with your address on it. What does the second part mean? I gotta go to the post office and they do something before I go and apply?
Thanks! :shaka:
It's a toss-up.
Pay for the special handling charges,
add a day or 3 (holiday weekend?) for your permit to arrive,
stand in line at the Post Office since you can't pay for or print labels at home for these special services,
try to properly explain what you need to someone who has never done "certified restricted-delivery return receipt required" self-addressed envelops before,
drive to the gun shop with the permit assuming this is a new purchase,
go to HPD,
park,
and register.
OR....
drive to HPD,
park,
pick up permit,
drive to gunshop,
bring permit and gun back to HPD,
park again,
register the new baby.
To me, unless I can't make it to HPD to pickup the permit within 3 days of it being ready, I see little advantage to having it mailed to me. HPD is closer to the gun shops than my home. HPD also opens earlier than the gun shops. If I time it right, I can be at the shop as soon as they open, permit in hand.
For what it's worth! :shaka:
Post by: stangzilla on October 29, 2015, 01:21:12 PM
will HPD hold your long gun permit for around a month after it is ready to pick up?
reason is, i will be down there later but cannot go back till 1 month from now
or do they not hold it
in which case i will just go later when i have time
-thanks
Post by: dustoff003 on October 29, 2015, 03:36:17 PM
quick question:
will HPD hold your long gun permit for around a month after it is ready to pick up?
reason is, i will be down there later but cannot go back till 1 month from now
or do they not hold it
in which case i will just go later when i have time
-thanks
http://www.honolulupd.org/information/index.php?page=gunmain
Then click application tab
"There is a 14 day waiting period on all permits. After the 14-day waiting period the permit will be valid for only 6 calendar days. Permits not picked up by the 6th day will be voided. Applicants will need to reapply and go through another 14-day waiting period, so please plan accordingly."
Post by: stangzilla on October 30, 2015, 12:02:35 AM
http://www.honolulupd.org/information/index.php?page=gunmain
Then click application tab
"There is a 14 day waiting period on all permits. After the 14-day waiting period the permit will be valid for only 6 calendar days. Permits not picked up by the 6th day will be voided. Applicants will need to reapply and go through another 14-day waiting period, so please plan accordingly."
Thanks
Post by: Antithesis on May 12, 2016, 11:22:40 AM
Post by: dogman on May 12, 2016, 08:41:13 PM
If my long gun permit has expired, do I need to go through the whole process again from the beginning?Pretty much yes, fill out four or five forms and the application for the permit to acquire, wait two weeks and pick up permit good for a year. The only thing you don't have to do is the finger printing so no $14.25 fee. You now get your thumb print and photograph on the permit. You can down load some of the forms from the link on the previous posts.
Post by: urusaibob on May 24, 2016, 07:40:23 PM
thanks
Post by: dogman on May 24, 2016, 09:33:19 PM
which forms from HPD website do they allow pre filled? read couple post here some forms are allowed type out or pre filled? or is that all old information? first time applying what the current FBI fingerprint fee? seen multiple amounts all over postedWelcome to the forum urusaibob aka Gilbert :shaka:
thanks
I have down loaded and pre-filled out all the forms from the HPD website and haven't had a problem with them being accepted. When at HPD you can ask them for an extra set of forms for ;D The Next Time ;D. The only form I fill out at the station is the application to acquire. The FBI finger print fee is $14.25 but to be on the safe side bring a ten, six ones and four quarters plus more quarters for the parking meter.
OOPS FBI finger printing is $14.75... was there today.
Post by: urusaibob on May 29, 2016, 07:21:16 PM
Welcome to the forum urusaibob aka Gilbert :shaka:
I have down loaded and pre-filled out all the forms from the HPD website and haven't had a problem with them being accepted. When at HPD you can ask them for an extra set of forms for ;D The Next Time ;D. The only form I fill out at the station is the application to acquire. The FBI finger print fee is $14.25 but to be on the safe side bring a ten, six ones and four quarters plus more quarters for the parking meter.
OOPS FBI finger printing is $14.75... was there today.
the yellow form Mental Health Waiver fill this form out as well?
FIREARMS INFORMATION FORM thats for Rifles? is that for when you bring in the rifle after getting the permit?
thanks
Post by: dogman on May 29, 2016, 09:21:32 PM
the yellow form Mental Health Waiver fill this form out as well?Yes
FIREARMS INFORMATION FORM thats for Rifles? is that for when you bring in the rifle after getting the permit?Yes, the Firearms Information Form is filled out after you have possession of the rifle(s) or shotgun(s) and you are registering it (or them) with HPD. Once you have your long gun permit, the Firearms Information Form is the only form you need to fill out when registering a rifle or shot gun. They will also ask for your permit, and of course the gun(s) being registered, The long gun permit is good for one year and an unlimited number of rifles and shot guns may be acquired. The handgun permit is only good for one handgun and I believe ten calendar days.
Be sure you read and understand the first post of this thread. . . :shaka:
Post by: MrTofu317 on June 14, 2016, 12:03:04 AM
Mahalos in advance
Post by: Heavies on June 14, 2016, 07:22:42 AM
So...after purchasing a long gun/rifle from a private seller, valid LG permit and all... would I still need their address and them present at hpd with me? Or is that just handguns when registering
Mahalos in advance
You do not need to have the previous owner present. You just need your valid long gun permit and the information that is required on the form. You need a valid long gun permit BEFORE you acquire the long gun.
Post by: urusaibob on June 14, 2016, 08:24:10 PM
thanks in advance
Post by: dogman on June 14, 2016, 08:57:49 PM
do i need 2 sets of the forms printed online for each pistol and rifle/shotgun application? or 1 set will cover both applications?Each time you go to HPD to apply for a permit(s) to acquire you need one set of forms only, even if you are applying for multiple permits to acquire. The aplication forms for permits to acquire are available at HPD firearms window only.
thanks in advance
Post by: urusaibob on June 27, 2016, 08:45:13 AM
If I pick up my permit on friday 7/1 and then pick up my handgun saturday 7/2 can I return to HPD on Wednesday 7/6 or does it have to be tuesday 7/5. This is a 3 day holiday weekend.
Thank you
Post by: dogman on June 27, 2016, 04:39:24 PM
One more question about 3 day weekend situation.See reply #383
If I pick up my permit on friday 7/1 and then pick up my handgun saturday 7/2 can I return to HPD on Wednesday 7/6 or does it have to be tuesday 7/5. This is a 3 day holiday weekend.
Thank you
Post by: urusaibob on June 27, 2016, 06:11:25 PM
I have also registered hand guns five days after being acquired from the gun shop with no remarks from HPD. I asked HPD about picking up a handgun on the day before a three day weekend and the officer told me just bring it in the next time we are open. I also asked them about being a couple of days late and they said just don't be a couple of weeks late.
yeah i read that part wasnt sure since it was from 2015.
thanks dogman
Post by: menokea on July 01, 2016, 06:09:04 PM
Post by: macsak on July 01, 2016, 06:30:52 PM
hi, new to the forums. Can anyone tell me what the wait times are nowdays and what are the best days to apply for a permit. thanksSee the thread entitled " how's the line at hpd
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Post by: urusaibob on July 10, 2016, 08:57:00 PM
Also - Registering a Stripped lower do you have to provide the Barrel Length and Caliber? leave the length blank and put Multi-Cal for caliber or blank as well?
Thanks
(already have permit to acquire long gun)
Post by: London808 on July 10, 2016, 08:59:25 PM
the HPD online form "FIREARMS INFORMATION FORM" the form needed to Register a Long gun/Rifle ? is that correct or is there a form that can only be filled out at the station?
Also - Registering a Stripped lower do you have to provide the Barrel Length and Caliber? leave the length blank and put Multi-Cal for caliber or blank as well?
Thanks
(already have permit to acquire long gun)
You can do the online form or print the firearms information form(yes thats the correct one)
, for barrel and cal, leave blank.
Post by: menokea on July 17, 2016, 04:46:34 PM
Post by: macsak on July 17, 2016, 04:56:00 PM
hi, when registering a handgun, does it have to be in a hard case or is a soft pouch ok? also, does the case have to be locked? thanks
Does not have to be locked
Any commercially made container for firearms will do
Hard or soft
Just don't use a clear plastic bag or container
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Post by: menokea on July 17, 2016, 05:13:38 PM
Post by: oldfart on July 17, 2016, 05:24:14 PM
hi, when registering a handgun, does it have to be in a hard case or is a soft pouch ok? also, does the case have to be locked? thanks...
Here is the applicable section....
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0025.htm
Post by: suka on July 17, 2016, 06:38:50 PM
:thumbsup:
Post by: BigDaddy31 on September 25, 2016, 06:14:50 PM
Post by: London808 on September 25, 2016, 07:36:03 PM
Registering a lower receiver. What is the procedure for registering a lower receiver? I think there was confusion on my part when I went to pickup the lower receiver I ordered and had transferred to a local dealer. Dealer asked for a permit and I told him I didn't have one... it wasn't until I got home and thought about, realized I think he meant a long gun permit rather than a hand gun type permit. Is that correct or am I off base here? Thanks in advance.
Are you wanting to register it as a long gun or a pistol ?. If you want it for a pistol you will need a pistol permit. if not your rifle permit is good.
Post by: BigDaddy31 on September 26, 2016, 06:34:14 AM
Post by: OldFaithful on October 03, 2016, 01:39:22 AM
Post by: Wave Twister on October 20, 2016, 12:03:48 PM
First time in-state purchase and applying for a handgun and long gun permit. Is it only $16.50 for the finger printing? Or, $33.00?
Anyone know what I should expect when I bring the handgun and long gun back - is there costs for both the handgun and long gun after that?
Post by: macsak on October 20, 2016, 12:07:51 PM
Man alive, I'm sorry but I'm confused. Really confused for some reason.
First time in-state purchase and applying for a handgun and long gun permit. Is it only $16.50 for the finger printing? Or, $33.00?
Anyone know what I should expect when I bring the handgun and long gun back - is there costs for both the handgun and long gun after that?
14.75 one time only
No other fees
Go back in 2 weeks (you have up to 5 additional working days)
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Post by: JHanawahine on October 20, 2016, 06:15:42 PM
14.75 one time only& bring exact change
No other fees
Go back in 2 weeks (you have up to 5 additional working days)
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Post by: mikenkapolei on October 20, 2016, 06:27:13 PM
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Post by: Wave Twister on October 21, 2016, 05:17:01 PM
I was there last week and they were giving change to people. The exact change only sign was gone too.
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Lol, I had to borrow $14 from my 11 year old daughter and then 0.25 from my co-worker this morning. Luckily I had .50 to my name.
Post by: gscott on December 18, 2016, 06:20:51 PM
New comer to the forum and to HI as well. Looking at a potential move to The Big Island and am seeking some guidance.
Initial concern was do I need to establish residency and obtain a valid HI issued ID to register any firearms I bring with me from out-of-state, but saw on previous post out-of-state ID is good to go.
Do I fill the FIREARM INFORMATION FORM with the same info on my out-of-state address listed on my Driver's License?
(I Should have a local HI address to fill under 'business address', could that be written in both address sections?)
Also is there a limit of the number of registrations done at once or within a certain time period?
Lastly looking for some more info for BIG ISLAND PRACTICAL SHOOTERS, or any other practical shooting on BI.
Just sent an email to the listed contact on uspsa.org but curious if any members of the club are on the forum.
Thanks again,
-Grant
Post by: 2aHawaii on December 19, 2016, 01:17:08 PM
Hello all,
New comer to the forum and to HI as well. Looking at a potential move to The Big Island and am seeking some guidance.
Initial concern was do I need to establish residency and obtain a valid HI issued ID to register any firearms I bring with me from out-of-state, but saw on previous post out-of-state ID is good to go.
Do I fill the FIREARM INFORMATION FORM with the same info on my out-of-state address listed on my Driver's License?
(I Should have a local HI address to fill under 'business address', could that be written in both address sections?)
Also is there a limit of the number of registrations done at once or within a certain time period?
Lastly looking for some more info for BIG ISLAND PRACTICAL SHOOTERS, or any other practical shooting on BI.
Just sent an email to the listed contact on uspsa.org but curious if any members of the club are on the forum.
Thanks again,
-Grant
For your first two questions, here is the applicable HRS (Hawaii Revised Statute) quoted for emphasis
Quote from: http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol02_Ch0046-0115/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0003.htm
§134-3 Registration, mandatory, exceptions. (a) Every person arriving in the State who brings or by any other manner causes to be brought into the State a firearm of any description, whether usable or unusable, serviceable or unserviceable, modern or antique, shall register the firearm within five days after arrival of the person or of the firearm, whichever arrives later, with the chief of police of the county of the person's place of business or, if there is no place of business, the person's residence or, if there is neither a place of business nor residence, the person's place of sojourn. A nonresident alien may bring firearms not otherwise prohibited by law into the State for a continuous period not to exceed ninety days; provided that the person meets the registration requirement of this section and the person possesses:
(1) A valid Hawaii hunting license procured under chapter 183D, part II, or a commercial or private shooting preserve permit issued pursuant to section 183D-34;
(2) A written document indicating the person has been invited to the State to shoot on private land; or
(3) Written notification from a firing range or target shooting business indicating that the person will actually engage in target shooting.
The nonresident alien shall be limited to a nontransferable registration of not more than ten firearms for the purpose of the above activities.
Every person registering a firearm under this subsection shall be fingerprinted and photographed by the police department of the county of registration; provided that this requirement shall be waived where fingerprints and photographs are already on file with the police department. The police department shall perform an inquiry on the person by using the National Instant Criminal Background Check System before any determination to register a firearm is made.
(b) Every person who acquires a firearm pursuant to section 134-2 shall register the firearm in the manner prescribed by this section within five days of acquisition. The registration shall be on forms prescribed by the attorney general, which shall be uniform throughout the State, and shall include the following information: name of the manufacturer and importer; model; type of action; caliber or gauge; serial number; and source from which receipt was obtained, including the name and address of the prior registrant. If the firearm has no serial number, the permit number shall be entered in the space provided for the serial number, and the permit number shall be engraved upon the receiver portion of the firearm prior to registration. All registration data that would identify the individual registering the firearm by name or address shall be confidential and shall not be disclosed to anyone, except as may be required for processing the registration or as may be required by a law enforcement agency for the lawful performance of its duties or as may be required by order of a court.
(c) Dealers licensed under section 134-31 or dealers licensed by the United States Department of Justice shall register firearms pursuant to this section on registration forms prescribed by the attorney general and shall not be required to have the firearms physically inspected by the chief of police at the time of registration.
(d) Registration shall not be required for:
(1) Any device that is designed to fire loose black powder or that is a firearm manufactured before 1899;
(2) Any device not designed to fire or made incapable of being readily restored to a firing condition; or
(3) All unserviceable firearms and destructive devices registered with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms of the United States Department of Justice pursuant to Title 27, Code of Federal Regulations.
(e) No fee shall be charged for the registration of a firearm under this section, except for a fee chargeable by and payable to the registering county for persons registering a firearm under subsection (a), in an amount equal to the fee actually charged by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to the registering police department for a fingerprint check in connection with the registration. In the case of a joint registration, the fee provided for in this section may be charged to each person. [L 1988, c 275, pt of §2; am L 1994, c 204, §4; am L 1999, c 217, §2; am L 2007, c 9, §7; am L 2013, c 254, §2]
Post by: Waka808 on January 15, 2017, 03:40:03 PM
As a seller, I provide the buyer with the necessary info on the firearm, along with my contact info, and they apply for the permit? Wait the 14 days, and once they acquire the permit, we both head down to the main HPD office and complete the transfer?
Post by: London808 on January 15, 2017, 03:43:39 PM
So looking to sell some of my handguns and I have in the past but I honestly forgotten how.
As a seller, I provide the buyer with the necessary info on the firearm, along with my contact info, and they apply for the permit? Wait the 14 days, and once they acquire the permit, we both head down to the main HPD office and complete the transfer?
You do t need to go to HPD, you just sign the back of their permit and they go to HPD
Post by: HGPineapple on February 09, 2017, 02:03:13 PM
Looking to pick up a new rifle and want to know if there anything new we have to complete now that they have that new $42 fee? Is it the same forms as before?
Thanks
Post by: London808 on February 09, 2017, 04:30:22 PM
Sorry for my question, but I haven't bought anything new in the last 7 years.
Looking to pick up a new rifle and want to know if there anything new we have to complete now that they have that new $42 fee? Is it the same forms as before?
Thanks
You have 3 new forms to fill out, This enters you into a federal database knows as rapback.
Post by: Exactice808 on April 12, 2017, 09:52:15 AM
As of
04/12/2017 - 8:00Am
1) The Permit to Acquire / Renewal is now on the LEFT Side of the Beretania Station only, NO Firearms just paper work. (The right side old location is for the actual firearm registration only)
2) There are 5 forms to complete - You can pull 3 of them off the HPD website, 2 of them are short Medical Forms that you can grab from the line. And there is a Kaiser/Straub Medical form at the window you need to complete as well. When you pull the forms off the website, do NOT DATE THEM, date it the day you walk in!
3) It is indeed $42 dollars, cash or CREDIT CARD, FINALLY!!! You dont need exact change no more, no need to bug the snack shop.
4) If you are renewing, Make sure you bring your old documents, "Original registration forms" It helps.
5) Long gun Renewal was FAST, went in @ 7:45am, and left about 8:15am. Finger printing is quick now no mess, its digital.
Now just the 2 week waiting Game.
OK Part 2
I NEED Help and clarification if anyone can answer. So I went back up to the window to ask about a handgun registration. I stated did they need my orginal Handgun Affidavit or did they need just a copy. they stated that they just need the original to see and make a copy of. I said ok, I showed him my affidavits and he stated they are not good anymore because I am not in the Military. It is only good while I was in the military. Is this correct? Secondly he stated I needed to go through a class again, to get a valid safety course certificate/affidavit.
I was stunned!??!?!? So my question is, Does the Handgun Safety Course certificates expire? Are they only good for a certain period? Why would my Affidavits not be good either, especially if I already have handguns registered and showed a legal document of completion of an approved safety course? Again if the certificate expire after a certain time I can understand? But he didnt state that, he just said it was not good, When I go back to get my long gun I will ask again.
Any prior military that had a military affidavit get out (Discharge) and try to get another handgun and get rejected and needed to take another safety course class? Im so confused now it doesnt make sense?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 12, 2017, 12:03:27 PM
Aloha Gang, Wow its been a while, I just went through the registration process and wanted to give a quick update.
As of
04/12/2017 - 8:00Am
1) The Permit to Acquire / Renewal is now on the LEFT Side of the Beretania Station only, NO Firearms just paper work. (The right side old location is for the actual firearm registration only)
2) There are 5 forms to complete - You can pull 3 of them off the HPD website, 2 of them are short Medical Forms that you can grab from the line. And there is a Kaiser/Straub Medical form at the window you need to complete as well. When you pull the forms off the website, do NOT DATE THEM, date it the day you walk in!
3) It is indeed $42 dollars, cash or CREDIT CARD, FINALLY!!! You dont need exact change no more, no need to bug the snack shop.
4) If you are renewing, Make sure you bring your old documents, "Original registration forms" It helps.
5) Long gun Renewal was FAST, went in @ 7:45am, and left about 8:15am. Finger printing is quick now no mess, its digital.
Now just the 2 week waiting Game.
OK Part 2
I NEED Help and clarification if anyone can answer. So I went back up to the window to ask about a handgun registration. I stated did they need my orginal Handgun Affidavit or did they need just a copy. they stated that they just need the original to see and make a copy of. I said ok, I showed him my affidavits and he stated they are not good anymore because I am not in the Military. It is only good while I was in the military. Is this correct? Secondly he stated I needed to go through a class again, to get a valid safety course certificate/affidavit.
I was stunned!??!?!? So my question is, Does the Handgun Safety Course certificates expire? Are they only good for a certain period? Why would my Affidavits not be good either, especially if I already have handguns registered and showed a legal document of completion of an approved safety course? Again if the certificate expire after a certain time I can understand? But he didnt state that, he just said it was not good, When I go back to get my long gun I will ask again.
Any prior military that had a military affidavit get out (Discharge) and try to get another handgun and get rejected and needed to take another safety course class? Im so confused now it doesnt make sense?
Nothing in the law says military firearms instruction is limited to only military, nor that it's only valid for the time you are active duty:
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(4) A firearms training or safety course or class conducted by a state certified or National Rifle Association certified firearms instructor or a certified military firearms instructor that provides,
at a minimum, a total of at least two hours of firing training at a firing range and a total of at least four hours of classroom instruction, which may include a video, that focuses on:
(A) The safe use, handling, and storage of firearms and firearm safety in the home; and
(B) Education on the firearm laws of the State.
An affidavit signed by the certified firearms instructor who conducted or taught the course, providing the name, address, and phone number of the instructor and attesting to the successful
completion of the course by the applicant shall constitute evidence of certified successful completion under this paragraph.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0002.htm
Any retired military with an affidavit should be acceptable, too. I see no reason to deny the form simply because you're separated. The training is not going to leave your brain when you no longer wear the uniform!
I'd ask for specific citations as to the law or regulations that void military training affidavits for former members.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 12, 2017, 12:06:26 PM
HPD really doesn't want or need any more bad press right now!
:thumbsup:
Post by: Exactice808 on April 12, 2017, 03:32:10 PM
Nothing in the law says military firearms instruction is limited to only military, nor that it's only valid for the time you are active duty:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0002.htm
Any retired military with an affidavit should be acceptable, too. I see no reason to deny the form simply because you're separated. The training is not going to leave your brain when you no longer wear the uniform!
I'd ask for specific citations as to the law or regulations that void military training affidavits for former members.
Thats the thing, I read the HRS, it was pretty clear stating that exactly what I thought, in no way does is show that an affidavit expires as you stated!
I went into a shop today to check with the owner and clarified as well. They stated I should bring the HRS and if I am having a hard time to ask the Sgt. For clarification.
As liberal as the State is, I do NO want to get into a pissing contest with the HPD people... last people I want to really get mad LOL....
HMMM well im going to see what happens when I go back to pick up my Long Gun permit...... need to pick up a couple of lowers for some builds... but dang... didnt think getting a handgun would be this hard again. I mean I have one already.... does that mean my I dont know how to use it LOL.
Post by: rklapp on April 12, 2017, 03:39:18 PM
I have a question about the medical forms. I don't remember filling them out when I moved to Hawaii in 2014. Then last December, I filled out the Kaiser form and didn't have any problems (despite what some of my friends say). I recently read that they were having a problem with Kaiser because HPD didn't want to evaluate the medical records and Kaiser was refusing to say whether or not a patient was psychologically fit to own a firearm. How was this resolved?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 12, 2017, 03:56:13 PM
Thats the thing, I read the HRS, it was pretty clear stating that exactly what I thought, in no way does is show that an affidavit expires as you stated!
I went into a shop today to check with the owner and clarified as well. They stated I should bring the HRS and if I am having a hard time to ask the Sgt. For clarification.
As liberal as the State is, I do NO want to get into a pissing contest with the HPD people... last people I want to really get mad LOL....
HMMM well im going to see what happens when I go back to pick up my Long Gun permit...... need to pick up a couple of lowers for some builds... but dang... didnt think getting a handgun would be this hard again. I mean I have one already.... does that mean my I dont know how to use it LOL.
When you go back, ask them if Cops are required to take a handgun course if they leave the force. Once they are no longer Cops, they should have to do the same as you!
Post by: Exactice808 on April 12, 2017, 04:44:48 PM
Another example of HPD interpreting the law.
I have a question about the medical forms. I don't remember filling them out when I moved to Hawaii in 2014. Then last December, I filled out the Kaiser form and didn't have any problems (despite what some of my friends say). I recently read that they were having a problem with Kaiser because HPD didn't want to evaluate the medical records and Kaiser was refusing to say whether or not a patient was psychologically fit to own a firearm. How was this resolved?
Yikes!!! Um crap... Yeah when I did mine in 2006 it was no where near this many medical forms just one. My buddy that came with that did all his initial registration in 2014 said the same. So it was surprising seeing 3 medical forms. I will check back in with you if I get anything in the mail these next 2 weeks, and or when I go to pick up my permit in 2 weeks.
Post by: stangzilla on April 12, 2017, 05:05:19 PM
Another example of HPD interpreting the law.
I have a question about the medical forms. I don't remember filling them out when I moved to Hawaii in 2014. Then last December, I filled out the Kaiser form and didn't have any problems (despite what some of my friends say). I recently read that they were having a problem with Kaiser because HPD didn't want to evaluate the medical records and Kaiser was refusing to say whether or not a patient was psychologically fit to own a firearm. How was this resolved?
have you ever seen a psychologist at Kaiser?
if not, you have nothing to worry about.
if you did you may have something to worry about. it all depends on whether or not HPD wants to red flag you or not. its all up to the whims of HPD if you saw a Kaiser psychologist.
I blame both HPD and Kaiser for this extra hoop that we may or may not have to jump through. yes, it doesn't make any sense, but its what Kaiser patients have to deal with.
Post by: rklapp on April 12, 2017, 09:14:29 PM
have you ever seen a psychologist at Kaiser?Actually, that's not what I was asking. I found the article I read. How was this resolved?
if not, you have nothing to worry about.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/30790522/gun-permit-applicants-denied-over-medical-dispute
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 12, 2017, 10:12:14 PM
Actually, that's not what I was asking. I found the article I read. How was this resolved?
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/30790522/gun-permit-applicants-denied-over-medical-dispute
Go to page 8 of the attached PDF, right column, section labeled UPDATE.
Quote
Since this article was written, HPD has ceased
requiring a clearance letter from a doctor for Kaiser
and Straub members. While we think this was the
correct thing to do, we also want to remind
members that HPD initiated this process without
prior notification and without any legal authority to
do so. This is a clear indication that we, as legal
firearms owners, need to be constantly aware of,
and push back with every legal means, these types
of administrative attempts to infringe on our rights.
Post by: rklapp on April 13, 2017, 12:30:01 AM
I assume it's the complete medical record. What does the HPD do with that?
If HPD evaluates the medical records, who makes the determination if the applicant "has been medically documented to be no longer adversely affected by the addiction, abuse, dependence, mental disease, disorder, or defect"?
Are all other doctors supplying HPD with clearance letters instead of sending the medical records?
And then there's this...
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-set-overturn-guns-mental-health-regulation-557237
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 13, 2017, 02:26:11 AM
And then there's this...
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-set-overturn-guns-mental-health-regulation-557237
That's similar to the No-Fly-List argument. The No-Fly-List has a purpose -- to prevent people suspected of being a security risk from flying. The list itself is a problem. The numbers I saw said 1/3 (33%, or .33333 :) ) of the people on the no-fly list are mistakes. Also, there used to be no known process for finding out if you're on the list short of trying to board a plane, and the process to be removed has not been streamlined or documented to the point it's not violating 2A rights.
Similar for the Social Security issue. Mental illness is not the only reason someone may ask a friend or relative to handle their finances. They could be undergoing treatment for something physical and is unable to find the strength to concentrate on bills and payments. It's another list made for one purpose now conveniently being proposed as a means to exclude more people from owning guns without individual due process.
Sometimes it's the elderly who are most vulnerable to violence. If they are capable and otherwise qualify, they should be allowed the means to defend themselves.
As for the mentally ill claim for these Social Security recipients, It's a fact that the mentally ill are no more likely to cause violence than the rest of the population. Given that, don't you think statistically we should not summarily deny rights to this group?
Post by: rklapp on April 13, 2017, 08:48:47 AM
That's similar to the No-Fly-List argument. The No-Fly-List has a purpose -- to prevent people suspected of being a security risk from flying. The list itself is a problem. The numbers I saw said 1/3 (33%, or .33333 :) ) of the people on the no-fly list are mistakes. Also, there used to be no known process for finding out if you're on the list short of trying to board a plane, and the process to be removed has not been streamlined or documented to the point it's not violating 2A rights.Agreed. Another situation where I would like to see research that backs their claim that those on SSD are more likely to harm themselves or others with a firearm rather than saying it's common sense.
Similar for the Social Security issue. Mental illness is not the only reason someone may ask a friend or relative to handle their finances. They could be undergoing treatment for something physical and is unable to find the strength to concentrate on bills and payments. It's another list made for one person now conveniently being proposed as a means to exclude more people from owning guns without individual due process.
Sometimes it's the elderly who are most vulnerable to violence. If they are capable and otherwise qualify, they should be allowed the means to defend themselves.
As for the mentally ill claim for these Social Security recipients, It's a fact that the mentally ill are no more likely to cause violence than the rest of the population. Given that, don't you think statistically we should not summarily deny rights to this group?
Post by: KZBoost on April 16, 2017, 03:23:36 PM
Did some reading through this thread, but there's a lot of old information mixed in with new information and it's all a bit mind boggling.
I downloaded the 3 forms off of the HPD website ( Mental Health Waiver, Medical Information Waiver, Firearms Information Form ) and am starting to fill them out ahead of time, however I have a few questions regarding these forms.
1) Do I need to go see a doctor for any of these forms? or am I supposed to just fill these out myself and turn them in.
2) Do I need any type of safety class/training course certificate to obtain a long gun? (AR15 Lower to be exact)
3) On the firearms information form, It has a section to fill out about the firearm. What if I don't know what the specifics will be yet? What do I input?
4) Is there anything else I should have prepared other than my proof of citizenship, the 3 HPD forms from the website, and valid photo ID?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 16, 2017, 04:10:22 PM
Hey guys,
Did some reading through this thread, but there's a lot of old information mixed in with new information and it's all a bit mind boggling.
I downloaded the 3 forms off of the HPD website ( Mental Health Waiver, Medical Information Waiver, Firearms Information Form ) and am starting to fill them out ahead of time, however I have a few questions regarding these forms.
1) Do I need to go see a doctor for any of these forms? or am I supposed to just fill these out myself and turn them in.
HPD contacts the doctor/HMO for you. All you do is sign the forms giving them permission to invade your privacy. Only if you are denied for something related to mental health are you required to obtain a doctor's letter yourself.
2) Do I need any type of safety class/training course certificate to obtain a long gun? (AR15 Lower to be exact)
A long gun permit requires no safety training.
3) On the firearms information form, It has a section to fill out about the firearm. What if I don't know what the specifics will be yet? What do I input?
If applying for a long gun permit, leave that blank. It's only required when acquiring a handgun. The long gun permit is valid for a year and as many firearms as you can afford in 12 months. Specs will be collected when you register them.
4) Is there anything else I should have prepared other than my proof of citizenship, the 3 HPD forms from the website, and valid photo ID?
Don't take ammo to the police station. Magazines can be left in the car or at home. Use a good carry case, even though the cardboard box the gun shipped in is sufficient. A nice case protects the gun better and is probably easier to carry.
If buying used, you'll need the owner's name. A bill of sale or the tracking number from the registration form would be helpful. If you're doing the transaction at the police station, just meet the seller there, and he can stand with you at the window for any questions. For handguns, the buyer signs the back of the permit. For long guns, a bill of sale should be used instead.
Post by: KZBoost on April 16, 2017, 04:27:56 PM
Post by: Exactice808 on April 18, 2017, 11:53:10 AM
Go to page 8 of the attached PDF, right column, section labeled UPDATE.
GRRR !@##%% Just got the letter in the mail Yesterday.
I wonder what happens next? Does HPD automatically deny my permit, or do they actually review it. My letter is pretty docile and "low risk" (Veteran-situation) I am not ashamed to share. With that being said..... the 2 letters are in fact conflicting.
as of 04/17/2017
The letter from HPD does state that Kaiser/Doctor must respond Yes or No for acquisition on a separate form (which was not attached as a copy for me to see) so not sure what form or Yes or No does a doctor have to respond to.
The Kaiser letter in response to HPD though does say by HRS compliance to release documents but in NO way will make the decision and the decision is strictly up to HPD.
So they are both dusting their hands on who makes the decision still. I still have a week to pick up my permit, So I guess either I will get another letter from HPD directly or will find out next week if I approved or not....
what a bunch of horse..... yeah.........
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 18, 2017, 02:18:54 PM
Also, contact the HRA immediately (info is in the newsletter). They collected the denial letters and coordinated the resolution with HPD last time. Maybe there are new people working there since the Chief resigned and officers retired / were terminated?
Post by: Exactice808 on April 18, 2017, 03:00:56 PM
You might want to print the PDF and show them at the window if they actually deny you for Kaiser not providing a mental health assessment.
Also, contact the HRA immediately (info is in the newsletter). They collected the denial letters and coordinated the resolution with HPD last time. Maybe there are new people working there since the Chief resigned and officers retired / were terminated?
Well..... This is not good, Just got a call from HPD, they stated I will "NEED" a medical Clearance letter from my Doctor. This they stated Kaiser WILL not ISSUE those letters, I will likely need to find another doctor, switch my carrier and then get a doctor, to sign the medical clearance form.
I brought up the HRA newsletter, they stated that, it is 2 years old. They stated this is when Kaiser & Straub were not responding at all to the requests by HPD
Now that Kaiser is sending the generic letter. they are stating that the we will NEED a medical clearance letter from a doctor. which Kaiser will not issue....
I will then also need to comply within 30 days to get another doctor, to approve or I will need to transfer all my firearms....... !@#$$%*(*@$$
Post by: stangzilla on April 18, 2017, 03:36:18 PM
Well..... This is not good, Just got a call from HPD, they stated I will "NEED" a medical Clearance letter from my Doctor. This they stated Kaiser WILL not ISSUE those letters, I will likely need to find another doctor, switch my carrier and then get a doctor, to sign the medical clearance form.
I brought up the HRA newsletter, they stated that, it is 2 years old. They stated this is when Kaiser & Straub were not responding at all to the requests by HPD
Now that Kaiser is sending the generic letter. they are stating that the we will NEED a medical clearance letter from a doctor. which Kaiser will not issue....
I will then also need to comply within 30 days to get another doctor, to approve or I will need to transfer all my firearms....... !@#$$%*(*@$$
are these new firearms that you will need to transfer?
bc they can't confiscate firearms that are already legally registered bc you are red flagged for a new permit
new permit is a new permit, and registered firearms are already registered
a red flag does not disqualify you from guns that are already registered, only red flags you for a new permit to acquire
red flag does not warrant confiscation.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 18, 2017, 04:57:52 PM
Well..... This is not good, Just got a call from HPD, they stated I will "NEED" a medical Clearance letter from my Doctor. This they stated Kaiser WILL not ISSUE those letters, I will likely need to find another doctor, switch my carrier and then get a doctor, to sign the medical clearance form.
I brought up the HRA newsletter, they stated that, it is 2 years old. They stated this is when Kaiser & Straub were not responding at all to the requests by HPD
Now that Kaiser is sending the generic letter. they are stating that the we will NEED a medical clearance letter from a doctor. which Kaiser will not issue....
I will then also need to comply within 30 days to get another doctor, to approve or I will need to transfer all my firearms....... !@#$$%*(*@$$
Did HPD tell you what Kaiser told them? Did they flag you for that "veteran-situation" you mentioned?
If so, then that's a different issue than the newsletter thing.
Post by: Exactice808 on April 18, 2017, 05:36:37 PM
Did HPD tell you what Kaiser told them? Did they flag you for that "veteran-situation" you mentioned?
If so, then that's a different issue than the newsletter thing.
Yups, called Kaiser, they will not do a waiver, yes it is due to me going to behavior health for my prior service.
It is different , but not different I guess... The fact that I was flagged, is ok, the letters are very conflicting and looks like Kaiser is the only company that does not do waivers. I will need to see a private doctor.
Post by: Exactice808 on April 18, 2017, 05:37:32 PM
are these new firearms that you will need to transfer?
bc they can't confiscate firearms that are already legally registered bc you are red flagged for a new permit
new permit is a new permit, and registered firearms are already registered
a red flag does not disqualify you from guns that are already registered, only red flags you for a new permit to acquire
red flag does not warrant confiscation.
They stated it is for all firearms owned, not just for the permit to acquire. I will have 30 days to provide a waiver or I will need to turn in my weapons or transfer them...
Post by: stangzilla on April 18, 2017, 06:03:47 PM
They stated it is for all firearms owned, not just for the permit to acquire. I will have 30 days to provide a waiver or I will need to turn in my weapons or transfer them...
that is BS
HPD firearms division got their head up their ass
depends who you talk to, and you get a different answer
a red flag is NOT a disqualification. HPD is not a psychologist, they cannot disqualify you.
all they can do is red flag you. then you have to get cleared by a doctor.
they are full of crap down there.
i'll PM you a doctor you can go to
I went through all this years ago, so I feel your pain.
PM is on the way.
Post by: stangzilla on April 18, 2017, 06:10:04 PM
lmk if you need any more help.
Post by: Exactice808 on April 18, 2017, 06:10:40 PM
that is BS
HPD firearms division got their head up their ass
depends who you talk to, and you get a different answer
a red flag is NOT a disqualification. HPD is not a psychologist, they cannot disqualify you.
all they can do is red flag you. then you have to get cleared by a doctor.
they are full of crap down there.
i'll PM you a doctor you can go to
I went through all this years ago, so I feel your pain.
PM is on the way.
Stang much Mahaloz! :shaka: I have an appointment already with another doctor tomorrow morning =) I work fast LOL, I have been keeping eye on these threads and when the other member brought up the kaiser, I went into research mode, and Dr. Google showed a bunch of threads here where they rant into it.
Its funny, actually I wonder about that, now that you bring it up. A flag does not disqualify me in a sense correct. More so, if I acquired my previous weapon legally, it is not cause of confiscation of those firearms? As Kaiser is unwilling an HPD is unwilling to properly determine, The real questions if they are wiling to determine they should automatically disqualify me which they are NOT, just flagging me. Nuts though. As the letter provided, included my medical records that they could easily read and see if my history is violence or addiction or a danger?
Oh well just gotta go through the hoops I guess..... better to get it done at this point..... I will keep you all posted!
Post by: Exactice808 on April 20, 2017, 10:06:14 AM
It wasn't too bad, but I would say I was lucky. It was an extra pain in the you know what, but I guess under the circumstances, they are trying to at least "Checking/Vetting"
So to confirm, IF YOU HAVE KAISER MEDICAL. They will indeed respond to the HPD letter, stating "POSITIVE" history if you have EVER seen behavioral health for anything. Kaiser's stance is to NOT make an assessment and will not issue a medical clearance letter. You will need to obtain a medical clearance letter from another outside doctor not related to Kaiser.
from my understanding all other medical options provide and respond except Kaiser.
So be aware if you are a new applicant, or redoing your applications.... there WILL be an extra step.........
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 20, 2017, 10:45:59 AM
So Gang, A quick update! I just wanted to let you know that I went through the process. Got a legitimate doctors notice stating that I am legal and no issues. Took the documents down to HPD, they made a copy and that seems to be it. I hopefully can pick up my permit next week.
It wasn't too bad, but I would say I was lucky. It was an extra pain in the you know what, but I guess under the circumstances, they are trying to at least "Checking/Vetting"
So to confirm, IF YOU HAVE KAISER MEDICAL. They will indeed respond to the HPD letter, stating "POSITIVE" history if you have EVER seen behavioral health for anything. Kaiser's stance is to NOT make an assessment and will not issue a medical clearance letter. You will need to obtain a medical clearance letter from another outside doctor not related to Kaiser.
from my understanding all other medical options provide and respond except Kaiser.
So be aware if you are a new applicant, or redoing your applications.... there WILL be an extra step.........
Of course, the stupid irony is, while stated correctly they are going through a process, they are NOT "vetting" you.
You just provided a letter from a doctor who (I assume) has never treated nor seen you before this week, based on (again I assume) the records Kaiser has on you. The doctor is merely glancing at your information and drawing a conclusion on the LACK of any information indicating a disqualifying condition.
Did they give you any mental health tests or questionnaires? How much one-on-one time did they spend getting to know you?
The letter is a joke. It vets no one. If you were treated outside of Kaiser for mental health issues, would your Kaiser records contain that if you didn't tell them?
Glad you're happy, but this fact anyone has to pay extra to satisfy a feel-good, do-little law is illogical.
Post by: Exactice808 on April 20, 2017, 02:50:43 PM
Of course, the stupid irony is, while stated correctly they are going through a process, they are NOT "vetting" you.
You just provided a letter from a doctor who (I assume) has never treated nor seen you before this week, based on (again I assume) the records Kaiser has on you. The doctor is merely glancing at your information and drawing a conclusion on the LACK of any information indicating a disqualifying condition.
Did they give you any mental health tests or questionnaires? How much one-on-one time did they spend getting to know you?
The letter is a joke. It vets no one. If you were treated outside of Kaiser for mental health issues, would your Kaiser records contain that if you didn't tell them?
Glad you're happy, but this fact anyone has to pay extra to satisfy a feel-good, do-little law is illogical.
LOL dont get me wrong, in no way I said it was the right thing.... I just stated they are trying..
As for the doctor I went, I do have a connection to them, they did review my file, and I did go through a physical and mental screening. So it was legitimate under the circumstances. I did not just ask someone to sign the paper and walk out. I did sit with the doctor and had a pretty deep conversation.
Again for me I am actually trying to do the "right" thing, while it is ridiculous. It just shows that law abiding citizens are will to do whats right... The "real" dangers are those that choose NOT to do anything at all. So good or bad I see the reasoning, objectively, while I dont fully agree with the whole thing..... it has its reasons....I guess *shrug*.
In addition I dont think it is HPD in essence as again Kaiser is the "ONLY ONE" that will not issue waivers. Why is that, even with the Medical Clearance letter there is an HRS that grants immunity to physicians? So is it HPD/a Law or is it just Kaiser......
Anyways my point is to provide info and what I had to do to comply, What tough is if you are not as fortunate to have access to another doctor, it can pose a lot of issues. So knowing the steps and what to do, I hope helps someone else that might run into this process.
I do not want to see anyone lose their 2A rights because of stupidity and ignorance. This situation totally caught me off guard, but I am glad I figured out a way and a way quickly.
Flapp_Jackson, thank you as well for your help and assistance!
Post by: rklapp on April 20, 2017, 05:18:58 PM
Of course, the stupid irony is, while stated correctly they are going through a process, they are NOT "vetting" you.Agreed. Another example of spurious gun control restrictions that does little to keep guns away from those who shouldn't have them and is a waste of time and resources.
You just provided a letter from a doctor who (I assume) has never treated nor seen you before this week, based on (again I assume) the records Kaiser has on you. The doctor is merely glancing at your information and drawing a conclusion on the LACK of any information indicating a disqualifying condition.
Did they give you any mental health tests or questionnaires? How much one-on-one time did they spend getting to know you?
The letter is a joke. It vets no one. If you were treated outside of Kaiser for mental health issues, would your Kaiser records contain that if you didn't tell them?
Glad you're happy, but this fact anyone has to pay extra to satisfy a feel-good, do-little law is illogical.
Post by: westside22 on April 26, 2017, 02:30:35 PM
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Post by: stangzilla on April 26, 2017, 02:33:12 PM
Don't spend much time here. I am sure it's addressed somewhere but what's up with us and the "rap back" registration?
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thanks to Ige, we are the only state enrolled in it for firearms.
Post by: westside22 on April 26, 2017, 03:14:38 PM
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Post by: rklapp on April 26, 2017, 09:30:58 PM
There doesn't seem to be any info about what we are to do as criminals in Hawaii 🤔Besides not own a firearm?
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Post by: westside22 on April 26, 2017, 09:38:27 PM
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Post by: aieahound on April 26, 2017, 10:09:05 PM
Check out this one:
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=25864.msg241299#msg241299
Post by: dustoff003 on April 30, 2017, 04:02:08 PM
Post by: aieahound on April 30, 2017, 04:18:06 PM
The Honolulu Magazine one is PDF
http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Honolulu-Magazine/February-2013/How-to-Get-a-Gun-in-Honolulu/GUN%20PERMIT%20FLOWCHARD%20%20(%20REV.%2011-19-2012%20).pdf
First post in this thread
https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=16528.msg153340#msg153340
Post by: DesertRangerTycho on April 30, 2017, 06:59:40 PM
Keep your powder dry!
Desert Ranger
Post by: macsak on April 30, 2017, 07:02:46 PM
Here's the updated version. Let me know if you have any changes that are needed.
Keep your powder dry!
Desert Ranger
shouldn't the fees be on both sides (long gun and handgun- if first time getting a permit)?
Post by: DesertRangerTycho on May 01, 2017, 05:06:00 PM
shouldn't the fees be on both sides (long gun and handgun- if first time getting a permit)?
Yes, I will make it a common element of both pathways. mahalo!
Post by: DesertRangerTycho on May 01, 2017, 05:14:18 PM
Post by: macsak on May 01, 2017, 05:32:54 PM
With Macsaks edits...
lol, thanks
it's an awesome chart, man
Post by: DesertRangerTycho on May 01, 2017, 05:46:44 PM
lol, thanks
it's an awesome chart, man
Thanks, Macsak.
Hopefully it helps others navigate the infringements that are Hawaii State Gun Laws.
Post by: rklapp on May 01, 2017, 06:45:11 PM
Some minor suggestions...
Add credit card payment option.
Should it say "2. Transport in gun case or original box"?
Perhaps add FFL to "Pick up [firearm] from gunshop/FFL"?
Post by: DesertRangerTycho on May 01, 2017, 06:53:52 PM
I paid $16.25 before rapeback for fingerprints. Last December, I only paid $42 for rapeback and fingerprints. Are you sure new applicants have to pay both?
Some minor suggestions...
Add credit card payment option.
Should it say "2. Transport in gun case or original box"?
Perhaps add FFL to "Pick up [firearm] from gunshop/FFL"?
Are they taking Credit Cards now?
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 01, 2017, 06:54:50 PM
Are they taking Credit Cards now?
http://www.honolulupd.org/information/index.php?page=gunmain
Post by: DesertRangerTycho on May 01, 2017, 07:34:09 PM
http://www.honolulupd.org/information/index.php?page=gunmain
Now I am even more pissed off! I had to pay the full $42 for rapback even though I already paid the $16.25 for my initial permit. :wtf:
Post by: DesertRangerTycho on May 01, 2017, 07:55:22 PM
Latest version... redux
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 04, 2017, 11:00:16 PM
HpD hates guys with older porches...
LOL dont get me wrong, in no way I said it was the right thing.... I just stated they are trying..
As for the doctor I went, I do have a connection to them, they did review my file, and I did go through a physical and mental screening. So it was legitimate under the circumstances. I did not just ask someone to sign the paper and walk out. I did sit with the doctor and had a pretty deep conversation.
Again for me I am actually trying to do the "right" thing, while it is ridiculous. It just shows that law abiding citizens are will to do whats right... The "real" dangers are those that choose NOT to do anything at all. So good or bad I see the reasoning, objectively, while I dont fully agree with the whole thing..... it has its reasons....I guess *shrug*.
In addition I dont think it is HPD in essence as again Kaiser is the "ONLY ONE" that will not issue waivers. Why is that, even with the Medical Clearance letter there is an HRS that grants immunity to physicians? So is it HPD/a Law or is it just Kaiser......
Anyways my point is to provide info and what I had to do to comply, What tough is if you are not as fortunate to have access to another doctor, it can pose a lot of issues. So knowing the steps and what to do, I hope helps someone else that might run into this process.
I do not want to see anyone lose their 2A rights because of stupidity and ignorance. This situation totally caught me off guard, but I am glad I figured out a way and a way quickly.
Flapp_Jackson, thank you as well for your help and assistance!
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Post by: ed808 on September 15, 2017, 05:15:00 PM
Well..... This is not good, Just got a call from HPD, they stated I will "NEED" a medical Clearance letter from my Doctor. This they stated Kaiser WILL not ISSUE those letters, I will likely need to find another doctor, switch my carrier and then get a doctor, to sign the medical clearance form.
I brought up the HRA newsletter, they stated that, it is 2 years old. They stated this is when Kaiser & Straub were not responding at all to the requests by HPD
Now that Kaiser is sending the generic letter. they are stating that the we will NEED a medical clearance letter from a doctor. which Kaiser will not issue....
I will then also need to comply within 30 days to get another doctor, to approve or I will need to transfer all my firearms....... !@#$$%*(*@$$
Aloha All
I find myself in a similar situation. I am also with Kaiser medical and in need of a referral of a doctor who is will to take a look at medical records for a medical clearance letter.
I have a permit and legally owned firearms since 2011 and just last month put in an application for purchase of additional firearms.
Unfortunately I was red flagged for seeing a behavioral counselor in 2015 and now according to HPD would need to surrender my already purchased firearms if I am not able to obtain a letter.
I am hoping someone in the 2a forums could point me in the right direction.
Post by: London808 on September 15, 2017, 09:06:30 PM
Aloha All
I find myself in a similar situation. I am also with Kaiser medical and in need of a referral of a doctor who is will to take a look at medical records for a medical clearance letter.
I have a permit and legally owned firearms since 2011 and just last month put in an application for purchase of additional firearms.
Unfortunately I was red flagged for seeing a behavioral counselor in 2015 and now according to HPD would need to surrender my already purchased firearms if I am not able to obtain a letter.
I am hoping someone in the 2a forums could point me in the right direction.
I can't recommend a doctor but I highly recommend calling Rick Holcomb, his number is (808) 545-4040.
He's a lawyer that handles 2A cases (including mine) and I know he would be interested in anyone dealing with HPD and kaiser.
Post by: London808 on September 15, 2017, 09:08:13 PM
Post by: tillamook on September 15, 2017, 10:03:01 PM
Im a physician and would happily do these but Im also an employee and dont control things like my clinic's liability insurance. Obviously the concern is if I sign one and someone shoots up the school everyone will be pointing at me as the reason.
I saw one of these letters today and heard the patient got turned away because they had kaiser insurance (which isnt taken by my office). If it was someone here I'm sorry
I'd like to handle these by asking "Are you an American Citizen?" and if your answer is "yes" I would sign the form since there is nothing in the constitution that says you need a physician clearance to exercise your rights.
I'll talk to my director and see how touchy of issue this is. Perhaps we can take cash paying patients and do the minimal assessment to sign the form. BS that someone would have to pay a physician for this.
No due process, just random judgement from a doctor.
Glad I left my firearm collection in another state with my son before I moved here.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 15, 2017, 10:19:19 PM
What a bunch of BS.
Im a physician and would happily do these but Im also an employee and dont control things like my clinic's liability insurance. Obviously the concern is if I sign one and someone shoots up the school everyone will be pointing at me as the reason.
I saw one of these letters today and heard the patient got turned away because they had kaiser insurance (which isnt taken by my office). If it was someone here I'm sorry
I'd like to handle these by asking "Are you an American Citizen?" and if your answer is "yes" I would sign the form since there is nothing in the constitution that says you need a physician clearance to exercise your rights.
I'll talk to my director and see how touchy of issue this is. Perhaps we can take cash paying patients and do the minimal assessment to sign the form. BS that someone would have to pay a physician for this.
No due process, just random judgement from a doctor.
Glad I left my firearm collection in another state with my son before I moved here.
Hawaii State law provides qualified immunity for health providers. There's no reason for Kaiser Hawaii to fear being held liable for clearing someone seeking a firearm permit.
I guess they think it's better to deny all of their patients who go to behavioral health their Constitutional rights rather than risk a patient committing a crime and having to answer questions.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0018.htm
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§134-18 Qualified immunity for physicians, psychologists, or psychiatrists who provide information on permit applicants. There shall be no civil liability for
any physician, psychologist, or psychiatrist who provides information or renders an opinion in response to an inquiry made for purposes of issuing a firearm permit
under section 134-2 or for purposes of investigating the continuing mental health of the holder of a valid firearm permit provided that the physician, psychologist, or
psychiatrist acted without malice. [L 1992, c 287, §1; am L 1994, c 204, §10]
Post by: tillamook on September 15, 2017, 10:55:41 PM
Hawaii State law provides qualified immunity for health providers. There's no reason for Kaiser Hawaii to fear being held liable for clearing someone seeking a firearm permit.
I guess they think it's better to deny all of their patients who go to behavioral health their Constitutional rights rather than risk a patient committing a crime and having to answer questions.
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0134/HRS_0134-0018.htm
Thanks, I had not researched too much into it. I'm sure liability would have come up when I talk to my director. This is perfect.
Man I feel bad for the person the clinic turned away saying they had to get it signed at kaiser because of insurance. I didnt know Kaiser turned them all away.
Post by: London808 on September 16, 2017, 08:37:51 AM
I'd like to handle these by asking "Are you an American Citizen?" .
SMH......
:stopjack:
Post by: Soleyobo on February 27, 2018, 02:09:23 AM
Post by: macsak on February 27, 2018, 05:26:58 AM
Looks like it’s been a while since someone has posted in here. I want to register for a long gun and handgun permit. I noticed the handgun permit requires a safety course. Where do they offer these handgun safety courses? I live on Oahu pearl city area.
more than a few members here are handgun safety instructors
the largest and one of the longest running classes is HRA/LIFE
the Hawaii defense foundation (HDF) runs a class also (disclaimer: I teach for HDF on a rotating basis)
most of the gun stores locally teach classes or are affiliated with someone that does
Post by: stangzilla on February 27, 2018, 05:36:00 AM
It's free, it is a 2 day class, it fulfills the state requirements for handgun safety and hunter education
But it has no hands on handgun time, and has a waiting list
Post by: oldfart on February 27, 2018, 06:24:06 AM
Looks like it’s been a while since someone has posted in here. I want to register for a long gun and handgun permit. I noticed the handgun permit requires a safety course. Where do they offer these handgun safety courses? I live on Oahu pearl city area....
Welcome to the forum. Have you submitted testimony to our lovely legislators yet?
Post by: Soleyobo on February 27, 2018, 11:27:41 AM
more than a few members here are handgun safety instructors
the largest and one of the longest running classes is HRA/LIFE
the Hawaii defense foundation (HDF) runs a class also (disclaimer: I teach for HDF on a rotating basis)
most of the gun stores locally teach classes or are affiliated with someone that does
Thank you for the input I’ll check that info out.
Post by: Soleyobo on February 27, 2018, 11:28:50 AM
Another option is the hunter safety class
It's free, it is a 2 day class, it fulfills the state requirements for handgun safety and hunter education
But it has no hands on handgun time, and has a waiting list
Ooh 2 days? Wow that’s pretty long.
Post by: Soleyobo on February 27, 2018, 11:29:47 AM
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Welcome to the forum. Have you submitted testimony to our lovely legislators yet?
No what is this in regards to?
Post by: oldfart on February 27, 2018, 01:30:44 PM
No what is this in regards to?...
We wage a battle for your right to own your firearm.
In the wake of las Vegas and Florida, our legislators are hell bent on passing more laws even as I write this.
You can try catching up by skimming through the legal activism threads or just click unread posts to see the many laws being proposed.
Be prepared to get angry at your lawmakers.
Post by: k.s.chong on February 28, 2018, 08:51:46 AM
Another option is the hunter safety class
It's free, it is a 2 day class, it fulfills the state requirements for handgun safety and hunter education
But it has no hands on handgun time, and has a waiting list
Also, there is the hybrid course. Its part online which covers all the book stuff and is self paced. At the end of the online course you get a voucher (which you have to pay for) and then you take the voucher to the nimitz classroom for a 4-5 hour in person class, AND a final test.
and on a side note, i was registering my rifle and i was in the room and i saw/heard the guys in the window turn away a soldier that had a memo from his commander/bc/whatever vouching for his handgun training, etc. The officer's said that they no longer accept that as a acceptable to acquire a hand gun. Is this true now? or has it been like this for awhile?
Post by: zippz on March 03, 2018, 05:54:08 PM
Also, there is the hybrid course. Its part online which covers all the book stuff and is self paced. At the end of the online course you get a voucher (which you have to pay for) and then you take the voucher to the nimitz classroom for a 4-5 hour in person class, AND a final test.
and on a side note, i was registering my rifle and i was in the room and i saw/heard the guys in the window turn away a soldier that had a memo from his commander/bc/whatever vouching for his handgun training, etc. The officer's said that they no longer accept that as a acceptable to acquire a hand gun. Is this true now? or has it been like this for awhile?
First I've heard of that. Perhaps there was something wrong with the memo like hours not listed, no notary, etc.
Post by: zippz on March 03, 2018, 05:55:30 PM
... hunter education
But it has no hands on handgun time, and has a waiting list
Go to class at least an hour early and you'll most like get in as a standby.
Post by: yurcarmeean on March 07, 2018, 05:23:23 PM
I have a DLNR certification to buy handguns, but my rifle permit-to-purchase has since expired a couple years ago, and like a good boy I returned the original paper permit directly to HPD firearms division (even they were impressed / surprised that I went through the trouble to do this.)
anywho, It has been a while since I've purchased anything and have some questions that I am sure you kindly folks would be willing to answer:
1. I am intending to purchase a handgun primarily, do I need to re-new my long-gun permit to purchase in order to do so?
2. If so, is the renewal process the same as if I am applying for a new long gun permit-to-purchase? i.e I would have to go down to HPD, fill out application, provide proper ID, provide fingerprints, and wait 14 days to pickup permit?)
3. If not, can I just walk into a gun store and show the DLNR certification and buy a handgun? (and thereafter continue with the handgun application process)
4. does the handgun application require the long-gun permit, or does the long gun permit make the handgun application process easier?
5. what does the handgun application process involve? is it similar to the long gun permit process i.e. go down to HPD, fill out application and wait 14 days?
6. the registering process is pretty straight forward and I remember what needs to be done but the permitting and purchasing process is what evades my memory.
Mahalo for your help! :shaka:
Post by: k.s.chong on March 09, 2018, 10:15:47 AM
Hi folks, it's been a minute since I've been active on here, it's been a minute since I've purchased a firearm and I am wanting to get back in it, I have been turned off of purchasing new toys due to rapback. But my interest has been renewed after a friendly conversation with a gentleman at the range this past Sunday. He says that if I have had a background check done for a job ( i work in healthcare) then I am already in the rapback "system" or "database" and that I would only have to pay the one-time $40-something fee. I am now willing to pay this fee, to re-acquire the "privilege" to purchase firearms.
I have a DLNR certification to buy handguns, but my rifle permit-to-purchase has since expired a couple years ago, and like a good boy I returned the original paper permit directly to HPD firearms division (even they were impressed / surprised that I went through the trouble to do this.)
anywho, It has been a while since I've purchased anything and have some questions that I am sure you kindly folks would be willing to answer:
1. I am intending to purchase a handgun primarily, do I need to re-new my long-gun permit to purchase in order to do so?
2. If so, is the renewal process the same as if I am applying for a new long gun permit-to-purchase? i.e I would have to go down to HPD, fill out application, provide proper ID, provide fingerprints, and wait 14 days to pickup permit?)
3. If not, can I just walk into a gun store and show the DLNR certification and buy a handgun? (and thereafter continue with the handgun application process)
4. does the handgun application require the long-gun permit, or does the long gun permit make the handgun application process easier?
5. what does the handgun application process involve? is it similar to the long gun permit process i.e. go down to HPD, fill out application and wait 14 days?
6. the registering process is pretty straight forward and I remember what needs to be done but the permitting and purchasing process is what evades my memory.
Mahalo for your help! :shaka:
If im not mistaken....
for pistols,
?2 U must obtain make, model, cal., SN, seller, etc. information prior to applying for a permit to acquire a pistol.
You take that info down to HPD, fill out permit to acquire, med waivers (+ Rapback if never done b4).
At the window, HPD hands you another application (looks like you LG permit that is good for 1year, but filled out differently) that is where you fill in the pistol info. THIS is what youre picking up in 14 days, and after you register the pistol, you will hand back this sheet.
When its your "pick up week", get your permit to aquire, go get the pistol, bring it down, register with HPD. Then they will get you your half sheet, and your all good to go.
?3 you can go to any shop with your hunters ed card to purchase, but you wont be walking out that day with the pistol tho.
?4 neither requires the other
?5 kinda....except after the 14 day wait, you still have to scramble around to register. I usually schedule my day to do it within the same day of permit p/u
Ensure pistol information is legible and accurate. If permit to acquire does not match up....SOL, restart process.
Hope this helped :shaka:
Post by: Rocky on March 09, 2018, 10:23:05 AM
Hi folks, it's been a minute since I've been active on here, it's been a minute since I've purchased a firearm and I am wanting to get back in it,Save yourself a trip.
Apply for your long gun permit at the same time. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Post by: dogman on March 09, 2018, 10:01:38 PM
It has been a while since I've purchased anything and have some questions that I am sure you kindly folks would be willing to answer:If you haven't already done so, check out the chart on page one of this thread. It pretty much still applies if you add in rap back, and yes apply for your long gun permit as long as you are at HPD applying for a handgun permit.
Mahalo for your help! :shaka:
Post by: rklapp on March 09, 2018, 10:16:46 PM
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Post by: SixTenShooter on March 12, 2018, 04:49:54 AM
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Post by: zippz on March 12, 2018, 01:59:36 PM
He says that if I have had a background check done for a job ( i work in healthcare) then I am already in the rapback "system" or "database" and that I would only have to pay the one-time $40-something fee.
Don't worry your $42 RAPBACK fee won't go to waste. You'll get inserted into RAPBACK a second time. So if you quit your job, the employment RAPBACK entry is cancelled, but you'll still have the firearms entry.
Think of it as a lifetime membership. What a bargain!
Post by: GlockNewb on May 15, 2018, 08:33:26 PM
Post by: dogman on May 15, 2018, 08:49:12 PM
Anyone recently had success in acquiring a permit with a Straub-based doctor? Not sure if it's still an issue, and I switched to HMSA only to get a Straub-based PCP *epic fail*.Yep Straub all the way, picked up my permit last Thursday.
Post by: Bcspy on May 17, 2018, 05:59:59 PM
Post by: macsak on May 17, 2018, 06:52:09 PM
If you misplaced the original copy of the firearm registration. It was the type copy, do you have to registered it again with bill of sale. Need for my file. For long arm.
you can ask (nicely) the people at the firearms desk for a copy
Post by: Bcspy on May 17, 2018, 07:04:36 PM
you can ask (nicely) the people at the firearms desk for a copy
Thanks
Post by: dogman on May 17, 2018, 07:15:25 PM
you can ask (nicely) the people at the firearms desk for a copyBring a box of malasadas.
Post by: macsak on May 17, 2018, 07:33:11 PM
Bring a box of malasadas.
or yell "don't you know who I am!?!"
Post by: 4Runner on May 22, 2018, 02:49:39 PM
My question is: My wife and I are going to be first time gun owners, we both got our Handgun certificates, I purchased 2 handguns for us and want her to be registered for both...does she need to go to HPD twice? Or does she go only once to get the background check and pay the fee? or she doesn't have to go on the initial visit and just go for registration since I paid for the guns? Thanks.
Post by: aieahound on May 22, 2018, 04:50:50 PM
Once to apply for permit and once to complete co-registration. (2 weeks later)
Registration will be stamped "joint-registration"
At least that's how I had to do it when I put my wife on the registrations of guns I already owned.
Rocky would know for sure.
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 22, 2018, 08:54:46 PM
Hpd also asked why im adding her on, because they said if we get divorced. She gets half the gun.
I told them im adding her because if im not with her, she cant legally possess/shoot the gun. HDF has women only skill builders that they kick spouses out (no watching). The officer at the counter didnt know that about handguns.
At least rifles/shotguns i can "loan" her for up to 15 days without me being present.
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Post by: Flapp_Jackson on May 22, 2018, 09:58:48 PM
You have to bring the gun on the 2nd trip (after her 2 week waiting). Thats what i had to do.
Hpd also asked why im adding her on, because they said if we get divorced. She gets half the gun.
I told them im adding her because if im not with her, she cant legally possess/shoot the gun. HDF has women only skill builders that they kick spouses out (no watching). The officer at the counter didnt know that about handguns.
At least rifles/shotguns i can "loan" her for up to 15 days without me being present.
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You didn't get the memo? That was done on purpose so you can justify buying TWO pistols. ("But, Dear. It's the LAW!")
Not all pistols are comfortable for both spouses, either. A .45 ACP for you, and a 9mm or .38 for her.
Plus, if there's a break-in, you each will be better off armed.
Unless she shoots you -- instead of getting a divorce -- then never mind. O0
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 23, 2018, 08:58:40 AM
You didn't get the memo? That was done on purpose so you can justify buying TWO pistols. ("But, Dear. It's the LAW!")
Not all pistols are comfortable for both spouses, either. A .45 ACP for you, and a 9mm or .38 for her.
Plus, if there's a break-in, you each will be better off armed.
Unless she shoots you -- instead of getting a divorce -- then never mind. O0
I tried the "let's buy 2" argument and it didn't fly with her. But I do have to prepare as best we can for when Mr. Murphy strikes. IDK what gun she would grab if she had to use it. So if we had 1 that wasn't joint, that would probably be the one used even if it's dissembled and in the back of the safe when all hell breaks loose.
Post by: 4Runner on May 23, 2018, 11:06:50 AM
Post by: changemyoil66 on May 23, 2018, 11:22:37 AM
Thanks guys! Was hoping she wouldn't have to go twice so she wouldn't have to waste too much of her PTO...hopefully we just pick good times when the lines are short.
I've noticed that Mondays and Tuesdays are the busiest (weekend buyers). Other than that, it's a crap shoot.
I would print out the medical forms and fill them out at home. Unfortunately the carbon permits are not allowed outside the station and are given when you get there.
If there is a line, ask the people at the report window if they can get you one (carbon) so you can fill it out while waiting in line.
They do not allow blue ink anymore and all the initial areas have to be in print, not a real initial. So if your name is Johnas Blayne, you have to print JB.
Post by: Soleyobo on June 08, 2018, 10:38:33 AM
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Post by: Flapp_Jackson on August 16, 2018, 11:11:04 AM
Figured out the public parking lot on the makai side down the ramp. I think the parking on beretenia opens up around 0830. Oh no line when I left, tomorrow is statehood day btw.
Yes. Street parking on Beretania is open 8:30 - 3:30. I try to get to HPD about 8:27-ish to snag one of the metered spots in front. I sit in the truck for a couple of minutes until I'm sure it's safe.
There are also metered spots on the side street beside the building, but you have to get there as someone is leaving. Those spots are almost always occupied. They are available 24/7.
I believe street parking is free on state holidays with the exception of Kalakaua Ave at Kapiolani Park. The firearm window might be closed, but at least you can park in front for free! :rofl:
Post by: rklapp on August 16, 2018, 01:18:17 PM
Post by: Soleyobo on August 17, 2018, 01:33:41 AM
I've also parked at the metered "Public and Employee Parking" garage off of Beretania with a short walk through the park to HPD. I marked the entrance on the map.
I don't think we are talking about the same parking structure. There is a parking garage on Hotel St. I marked it with the big circle. Its a ramp that goes down to a underground parking garage and it has about 10+ metered stalls on your right side when you drive in. Also in the small circle I marked where the elevator comes up from the parking garage.
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Post by: drck1000 on August 17, 2018, 10:19:23 AM
I don't think we are talking about the same parking structure. There is a parking garage on Hotel St. I marked it with the big circle. Its a ramp that goes down to a underground parking garage and it has about 10+ metered stalls on your right side when you drive in. Also in the small circle I marked where the elevator comes up from the parking garage.Yeah. He was talking about another lot. The one RK was mentioning is for the C&C building across Alapai St. I park there too if the main HPD lot is full. Usually lots of parking there.
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Post by: Soleyobo on August 18, 2018, 12:47:39 AM
Yeah. He was talking about another lot. The one RK was mentioning is for the C&C building across Alapai St. I park there too if the main HPD lot is full. Usually lots of parking there.
Ah okay. Good to know, first time ever going I thought the only parking was on Beretenia street :wacko:
Post by: bknaka on August 25, 2018, 09:13:44 PM
Post by: dustoff003 on August 25, 2018, 09:17:45 PM
I have taken the class before and owned a handgun. I dont have the gun anymore but I'd like to get another. I don't know where I put my affidavit saying that I completed the class. My question is, do I need to take the class again or does HPD have a copy of it from when I previously registered my former handgun?If you can ask whomever you took the class from for another affidavit. HPD will have a copy in your file, they still want to see it and make a copy each time you apply for a hand gun permit.
Post by: macsak on August 25, 2018, 09:18:06 PM
I have taken the class before and owned a handgun. I dont have the gun anymore but I'd like to get another. I don't know where I put my affidavit saying that I completed the class. My question is, do I need to take the class again or does HPD have a copy of it from when I previously registered my former handgun?
no, hpd does not keep a record
an affidavit is a legal document, and it is your responsibility to retain it safely
you can try and contact whomever issued the affidavit and see if they keep records and they may reissue it for a fee
not every instructor does this, though
Post by: yurcarmeean on November 08, 2018, 01:29:41 PM
Thanks, just trying to get the details on timing right, before i buy, its been a while since i bought a handgun and i had a lot more free time back then...
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 08, 2018, 01:51:39 PM
Many will hold it for the 2 week waiting period. Remember the permit is only good for 5 days before you have to reapply.
As long as you communicate with the LGS they're pretty cool about it. Unless you keep missing your 5 day window and next thing you know 3 months have gone by.
A guy in my handgun class who paid for a gun, but got his permit denied because he saw a marriage counselor 5 years prior. And since then he has gotten divorced and re-married. He let the LGS know that he has to get the mental health waiver so it's going to take some time. They were cool about it and he got his gun a few weeks later.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 08, 2018, 04:53:03 PM
Although every LGS has different rules, I don't know of any that will hold a gun indefinitely for you.
xxx
One LGS told me they've held guns for deployed military for years while the owner was deployed.
My guess would be the length of time they happily hold a firearm you paid for would be case by case, factoring in the length of time and situation.
Once you pay for a gun, it is your property. If you take an extra long time to get the permit and pick it up, the shop really doesn't have much to complain about other than having to make space for it and count it in their inventory occasionally.
The shop can't legally make you pick up the gun if you haven't gone through the acquisition permit process. In fact, it's their job to ensure you do that BEFORE they deliver the firearm to you.
As long as you maintain communication with them so they know it's not abandoned, most of them will work with you however long it takes.
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 09, 2018, 10:12:50 AM
Once you pay for a gun, it is your property. If you take an extra long time to get the permit and pick it up, the shop really doesn't have much to complain about other than having to make space for it and count it in their inventory occasionally.
IDK about that, what if you're disqualified from owning the gun? Then you have broken the law by it being your property. Even though it was never in your possession (at gun store).
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2018, 11:21:19 AM
IDK about that, what if you're disqualified from owning the gun? Then you have broken the law by it being your property. Even though it was never in your possession (at gun store).
That's different than holding the gun "indefinitely" pending a permit issuance. If you're disqualified, but you already paid, they can issue a refund or store credit. But before that happens, the gun really was your property. You completed the purchase by paying for it. The transfer hasn't happened since the FFL will hold the 4473 until you present a permit, but that's a completely different step from the purchase. The shop will continue to set that gun with that serial number aside for you until the transfer issues are resolved.
But, very few transfers from an FFL are denied, so this is more of an exception than the rule. Remember, you can transfer ownership of a gun to someone without receiving payment. Transfer & purchase are two separate transactions.
Post by: eastwood13 on December 15, 2018, 07:31:46 PM
Post by: kalanz on April 06, 2019, 12:32:16 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on April 06, 2019, 01:04:07 PM
So yesterday I went and applied for a long gun permit. I paid the $43.25 Rap Back fee and that’s it. Skimming through this thread I believe another fee of $16 something was also required? They did my finger printing and said “see you in two weeks” then I left.
The $43.25 includes all fees. There's a break-down of what's included in the June 2016 Hawaii AG fact sheet for RAPBACK:
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In addition to the $12.00 fee for the FBI background check, a fee of $30.00 will be assessed to all firearm registrants for the State background check..
Obviously, they've raised the fees. The law is ambiguous on cost, allowing the police department to charge for "actual costs" of processing background checks, fingerprinting, etc.
https://ag.hawaii.gov/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Rap-Back-Facts-Sheet-Final-12-7-16-002.pdf
Here's the signed bill from June 2016, SB 2954 HD 1:
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2016/bills/GM1209_.PDF
Post by: HGPineapple on June 14, 2019, 01:19:42 PM
I already have my affidavit for handgun purchase for a while, but need some info and the first post is a bit out of date.
Do I apply for a handgun permit before I purchase the gun? If I recall, I had to bring the serial number down and then apply for the permit. Any answers would be appreciated.
Post by: changemyoil66 on June 14, 2019, 01:44:30 PM
Then go to HPD with that paper and affidavit. You will fill out a bunch of forms there. Use black ink only and when initialing, print your initials, no cursive. I would apply for long gun permit since you're already there.
Go back 2 weeks later to HPD and pick up the permit to acquire (carbon papers) and take that to the gun shop.
Gun shop will have you fill out the fed 4473 form and give you the handgun.
Take handgun back to HPD and show it to them.
Post by: HGPineapple on June 18, 2019, 10:41:28 AM
Post by: VarsityShinebox808 on September 02, 2019, 08:30:45 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 02, 2019, 09:52:39 PM
i got a question regarding the Medical waiver form. My personal doctor currently left his job and transferred over to Queen's so I'm without a primary doctor right now. What do I do with the medical forms then? Do I just put down the address of the clinic I go to and leave it at that or do I need to wait until I get assigned another doc to put their name on the form?
No need to wait. There's no legal requirement to even have a doctor. If you have insurance with an HMO, don't lie and say, "None." Just give the clinic info.
I have Kaiser, but my PCP has changed more often than a Democrat politician changes their positions on issues.
I used to put my doctor's info on the form, but now I only put the clinic's info. Never had a problem.
Post by: VarsityShinebox808 on September 03, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on September 03, 2019, 08:51:47 PM
Hello again. I have another question regarding the check process. I've noticed that a couple pages back there was a hubbub about Kaiser not accepting the medical disclaimer forms if there was even a hint of mental issues. Now that's got me a little nervous because Kaiser is my healthcare provider and I'm not sure if me seeing a private counselor six years back is gonna show up in the background check. Assuming that the worst case comes true and I get denied then what are my options in disputing that I am both stable and healthy?
Rule #1: Don't worry about it until you're denied. There's nothing you can do upfront to stop it if it's going to happen.
Rule #2: If Kaiser sends a negative response, they've washed their hands of you in the matter. No sense in even trying to appeal to your doctor. it's an administrative process that could flag you for any number of reasons that have nothing to do with fitness to own a firearm, such as counseling for dieting. If it happens in the Behavioral health clinic, you're at risk of being rejected.
Rule #3: If rejected by HPD, you need to find an out-of-network (non-Kaiser) physician who is willing to write you a "sanity" letter. There's one in this forum on the BI, I think. Others have had their names posted.
Baby steps. :shaka:
Post by: nahp01 on February 18, 2020, 07:13:32 AM
Post by: Heavies on February 18, 2020, 07:21:38 AM
http://www.honolulupd.org/information/index.php?page=gunmain
Post by: Drakiir84 on February 18, 2020, 07:33:35 AM
Does anyone know if HPD has the forms available at the station?
For permits to acquire? Yes. They probably have the CCW forms too but why bother.
Post by: drck1000 on February 18, 2020, 07:54:26 AM
Post by: nahp01 on March 15, 2020, 02:04:48 PM
Post by: Heavies on March 15, 2020, 04:05:44 PM
Do you guys know if HPD will notify you prior to the 2 week period if you don’t pass the mental health waiver?They used to call with discrepancies years back, don't know about these days.
Post by: Glasser on March 15, 2020, 05:22:47 PM
They used to call with discrepancies years back, don't know about these days.
They did for me not long ago, and told me how to remedy the issue. But they also told me the permit would be available and released to me if I brought in the additional paperwork. When I showed on pick-up day they told me the officer who notified me shit canned the permit right after calling me and I would have to re-apply. That officer was a massive douche and no longer works in permitting / registration. I even got an email with forms to print and fill out from them after that phone call to fix the problem.
Post by: nahp01 on March 15, 2020, 05:30:46 PM
They used to call with discrepancies years back, don't know about these days.
Thank you. Hoping that they still do. :shaka:
They did for me not long ago, and told me how to remedy the issue. But they also told me the permit would be available and released to me if I brought in the additional paperwork. When I showed on pick-up day they told me the officer who notified me shit canned the permit right after calling me and I would have to re-apply. That officer was a massive douche and no longer works in permitting / registration. I even got an email with forms to print and fill out from them after that phone call to fix the problem.
That sucks! The guys at permitting seemed cool. I inadvertently walked into the registration side at first, and they weren’t so pleasant. My fault for not reading the signs though.
Post by: robtmc on March 15, 2020, 06:46:13 PM
I inadvertently walked into the registration side at first, and they weren’t so pleasant.
Your "employess" do not much GAS about what you think.
Their view is clear. You work, or are subject to them. YOU are the supplicant.
Where their salaries come from it too abstract for the police mentality to fathom.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 15, 2020, 07:39:39 PM
Your "employess" do not much GAS about what you think.
Their view is clear. You work, or are subject to them. YOU are the supplicant.
Where their salaries come from it too abstract for the police mentality to fathom.
When Joe Biden was confronted with the FACT that, as a public official, he works for us, he told the guy not to be a horse's ass.
When we treat our elected officials like celebrities and voluntarily surrender our lives to the government, that is how they see themselves.
Post by: Jobabelcruz on March 22, 2020, 08:42:12 AM
Handy new illustrated guide provided by the Hawaii Rifle Association (http://hawaiirifleassociation.org/)
(http://2ahawaii.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=222.0;attach=5895;image)
If you want to get a gun in Hawaii you will need a permit to acquire. For handguns, you will need a separate permit for each handgun you wish to purchase. For long guns (rifle or shotguns) you will need to get a single permit which will be valid for one year from the date of issue.
You will need the following documentation prior to completing the application. The application must be completed at the Firearms Section.
1. Valid photo identification.
2. Permit to acquire application.
3. Firearms questionnaire form.
4. Mental health waiver form.
5. Medical Waiver form.
6. Fingerprinting. (First time in-state purchase and $16.50 FBI fingerprinting fee. Bring cash.)
7. Background check. (Background check includes, but is not limited to, warrant checks, local and national arrest history, local and national criminal history, local and national criminal convictions, any pending cases and TRO's.)
8. Hunters education card or a handgun safety training course affidavit. (Handguns only)
9. Proof of U.S citizenship if born outside the United States.
Permit to acquire
The following are needed when applying for a permit to acquire:
1. Valid identification that includes a photograph, such as a driver's license, state identification card, military ID, or United States passport. (You must be 21 years old or older to purchase a firearm.)
2. Complete an application for permit to acquire firearms with specific information, including: Make, Model, Caliber, Type, (revolver, Semiautomatic,etc), Finish, barrel length, and Serial Number.
3. The name, address, and telephone number of the seller.
4. A handgun safety training course affidavit, or hunters education card.
5. Provide proof of United States citizenship, if born outside of the United States, such as a United States passport, naturalization certificate, or birth certificate.
6. If you were convicted of a DUI, you need to bring in a substance abuse assessment from District Court Drivers License Education. (IF counseling was ordered, a medical clearance is also required.)
NOTE: For the long gun permit, you don't need #3 and #4.
You will need to wait 14 days before your permit is approved. After the 14-day waiting period the permit will be valid for only 6 calendar days. Permits not picked up by the 6th day will be voided. Applicants will need to reapply and go through another 14-day waiting period, so please plan accordingly.
Registration
After purchase or acquisition of the firearm return to the HPD Firearms Section no later than 5 calendar days with the following.
1. Valid photo identification.
2. Your original firearms permit.
3. The firearm for inspection.
Complete the firearms registration form and sign the firearms registration card.
There is no 14-day waiting period for out of state registration. Once the firearm arrives in the state you have 3 calendar days to bring it, with valid photo identification and proof of citizenship if born outside the United States, to the HPD Firearms Section.
Honolulu Firearms Registration Hours
Monday-Friday 7:45 am - 4:00 p.m. closed on all state holidays.
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Post by: Flapp_Jackson on March 22, 2020, 11:14:46 AM
Quote from: 2aHawaii on December 18, 2009, 10:30:36 AM
Handy new illustrated guide provided by the Hawaii Rifle Association
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This was current WAY BACK in 2009 when it was posted.
Things have changed a lot since then.
Post by: Cannoli524 on April 02, 2020, 07:46:47 PM
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Post by: howzithowzit on May 23, 2020, 05:42:30 PM
Scheduled to get it done but HPD doesn't have an opening til mid July, its pretty absurd.
Post by: zippz on May 25, 2020, 05:39:36 PM
Hey guys, is the process the same if you are acquiring a long gun permit the second time round?
Scheduled to get it done but HPD doesn't have an opening til mid July, its pretty absurd.
Same thing except
- don't have to pay the fees again (unless you didn't pay for RAPBACK earlier)
- don't have to fingerprint again
HPD prefers that you turn in your old permit if you still have it.
Post by: stangzilla on June 10, 2020, 05:45:50 AM
Post by: Craig B on June 10, 2020, 06:47:33 AM
From the time you can pick up permit to acquire after the 14 day waiting period, how many days is the window that you can pick up the permit? Is it 10 days? I forget bc I usually pick it up on the first day. Asking for a friend. Thanks 🤙
I was told five business days when I applied for my permits to acquire last month and in fact there is a paper taped to the window
that has the "pickup dates" printed on it. It was recommended to me to take a pic of it with my phone.
Craig B
:) :) :)
Post by: stangzilla on June 10, 2020, 07:16:54 AM
I was told five business days when I applied for my permits to acquire last month and in fact there is a paper taped to the window
that has the "pickup dates" printed on it. It was recommended to me to take a pic of it with my phone.
Craig B
:) :) :)
thanks :shaka:
found this on HPD website:
There is a 14 day waiting period on all permits. After the 14-day waiting period the permit will be valid for only 6 calendar days. Permits not picked up by the 6th day will be voided. Applicants will need to reapply and go through another 14-day waiting period, so please plan accordingly.
As an option, long-gun applicants may have their processed permits mailed to them. Applicants need to provide a self-addressed pre-paid envelope, certified restricted-delivery return receipt required(available at the U.S. Post Office) at time of application for permit. Long-gun (rifles/shotguns) permits are valid for one (1) year from the date of issue. Be advised that a handgun (pistols/revolvers) permit is valid for only ten (10) days from the date of issue.
Post by: stangzilla on June 10, 2020, 07:22:47 AM
so he'll either have to make an extra trip to hpd to pick up the permit then wait another 8 days to register firearm. or have it mailed to him certified mail.
another inconvenience
Post by: howzithowzit on July 27, 2020, 02:28:45 PM
Doesn't seem reasonable at all.
I don't want to pick up my rifle, then go register it after finally getting an appointment 100 days later, only to be charged with some bullshit and lose my right to bear arms.
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on July 27, 2020, 02:50:23 PM
So after getting your permit for a long gun, and you purchase it. Are we not allowed to take it until we get an appointment to register it? Because as of today there aren't any openings for 90 days. Matter of fact they won't even let you schedule beyond that. And with Hawaiis law saying you must register it within 5 days, what do they expect people to do? Pay for it, and cross their fingers they get an appointment within the next 4 months to finally take home their rifle?
Doesn't seem reasonable at all.
I don't want to pick up my rifle, then go register it after finally getting an appointment 100 days later, only to be charged with some bullshit and lose my right to bear arms.
A Permit to Acquire is just that -- a permit to buy and take possession of the firearm. So, pay the seller, produce your valid long gun permit, and leave the store with your firearm.
Nowhere in the law is firearm acquisition contingent on registration. The two processes are 100% apart and independent of each other. An example would be bringing a firearm from out of state. There's no permit required, only registration.
Once you own/acquire the firearm, then you make the registration appointment. If you can't get an appointment date within 5 days, that's a state issue.
Possessing, sighting in and practicing with your new long gun should not be prevented by a registration process that can't follow the same law they expect gun owners to follow. HI COVID-19 proclamations have waived the registration period without penalty. Some HPD officer/s has reportedly said you can't take your new gun to the range until it's registered. Nowhere in the law does it say that, or else it would also apply to the 5 days between normal, pre-pandemic acquisition and registering. It doesn't.
Do what you want. It'll be okay whichever way you decide.
Post by: stangzilla on August 20, 2020, 09:10:00 AM
Go early
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on August 20, 2020, 12:56:13 PM
Now they do a temperature screening before you can do your business. Screening is in the register firearms side. I was 2nd in line for screening, took 9 minutes to do 2 screenings. If the line were longer, wait would be much longer. 4 to 5 minutes per person, filling out paperwork for each screening.
Go early
Are they screening everyone who enters the building, or only people doing business at the firearms section?
You know why I ask, I'm sure.
Post by: stangzilla on August 20, 2020, 01:00:12 PM
Are they screening everyone who enters the building, or only people doing business at the firearms section?
You know why I ask, I'm sure.
I think its everyone entering the building
Post by: omnigun on October 28, 2020, 01:01:28 PM
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on October 28, 2020, 01:14:52 PM
I have a question a friend asked and I didn't know the answer. When you get your permit do you need to keep the whole sheet with your ssn and crap or can you just have the bottom part.
This thread is about registration. The permit is a separate process and piece of paper.
All remaining copies of the permit get handed in to the HPD firearms office after the LGS or private seller signs and takes their one copy.
The only form HPD gives you to keep is the original registration form. They keep the other copies.
So, if you really want a copy of the permit, scan/Xerox it or take a picture on your cell phone.
Post by: omnigun on October 28, 2020, 01:31:52 PM
This thread is about registration. The permit is a separate process and piece of paper.
All remaining copies of the permit get handed in to the HPD firearms office after the LGS or private seller signs and takes their one copy.
The only form HPD gives you to keep is the original registration form. They keep the other copies.
So, if you really want a copy of the permit, scan/Xerox it or take a picture on your cell phone.
I'm talking about long gun permit. They give a sheet that lasts a year.
Post by: macsak on October 28, 2020, 01:36:56 PM
I have a question a friend asked and I didn't know the answer. When you get your permit do you need to keep the whole sheet with your ssn and crap or can you just have the bottom part.
"asking for a friend"
Post by: ren on October 28, 2020, 01:37:37 PM
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Post by: DocMercy on February 12, 2022, 05:45:30 PM
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Based on your records, is the Applicant a person who:
1. Is or has been under treatment of counseling for addiction to, abuse or dependence upon any dangerous, harmful, or detrimental drug, intoxicating compound as defined in Hawaii Revised Statutes Section 71201240, or intoxicating liquor?
2. Is of has been diagnosed as having significant behavioral, emotional, or mental disorder, as defined by the most current diagnostic manual of the American Psychiatric Association?
3. Is or has been under treatment for organic brain syndrome?
This is up-to-date as of early Jan. 2022. DSM-5 is the latest handbook of psychiatric disorders. Besides your current physician, the RFI can be sent to any medical facility in the state that HPD wishes to contact. How did I get a hold of the official questionnaire? It was kindly provided to me by my physician.
Post by: Downfall on July 30, 2022, 09:42:53 AM
I got the yellow form and white form,
Thank you
Post by: dogman on July 30, 2022, 05:58:54 PM
Does anyone know what we put down for the medical form if we have Kaiser, last I remember kaiser doesn't sign off on anything related to firearms?All I know is that HPD has a Kaiser specific form and a Straub specific form to fill out. I have Straub so I can't say what happens with Kaiser.
I got the yellow form and white form,
Thank you
Post by: Cucuchicuu on November 13, 2023, 01:43:49 PM
Is this proper procedure?
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 13, 2023, 02:01:22 PM
Just called HPD (1ish) to ask about the status of my emailed PTA since today is the first day it would be available. I was told, depending on the workload, that I could possibly expect it maybe by Wed or Thurs.
Is this proper procedure?
Yes, because HPD is slow.
Post by: Ksekiya on November 22, 2023, 02:32:57 PM
Do I need to do anything with HPD after I sell my handgun?
Mahalo
Post by: dogman on November 22, 2023, 10:36:24 PM
What do I need to do while selling a firearm to a private individual?If the buyer provides you with the permit to acquire, specific to your handgun, from HPD and registers the hand gun, you do not need to do anything else.
Do I need to do anything with HPD after I sell my handgun?
Mahalo
Post by: stangzilla on November 23, 2023, 12:38:41 AM
Then buyer goes back to HPD with the gun to register