does anyone else think that the first problem in this whole case was deedy's co-worker explaining to him that f'in haole was the same as the n-word?
if it wasn't for that advice, deedy probably would not have been carrying, and he wouldn't have over-reacted so much to elderts
I would have to disagree with this. I think Deedy is carrying regardless. Over reaction or not we really don't know since we weren't there. Video is choppy, sound is non existent, witnesses are all saying different things, it's just chaos..........pretty much on par with what one would think.
Different people view/take things differently. I've done quite a few accident investigations on my projects and usually the things people say about what they thought happened differ. The major points may/may not be the same, but the little stuff usually is different.
FWIW we say Deedy may be over-reacting, but again we weren't there. As some point out LEO's are trained to go over and above to de-escalate situations as one means of addressing people. Two examples.
1). One friend (HPD) used to serve warrants a lot. One time he tells me of this guy (not armed as far as they knew) not cooperating. Two guys him (about 5'-8"/170 and his partner 6'+/250+) and his partner. His partner couldn't handle the guy physically in a scuffle, but as soon as my friend stuck the muzzle of his service pistol on the guys head........instant cooperation.
2). Another guy (Sherrifs) was telling us how when you talk to people and they don't cooperate, they bump things up. So in the case of a person talking back, they go command voice, they raise the volume of their voice, and they may start adding in things like "Do what I say m-effer NOW!!!"
So do we know if Deedy was doing this? Nope and neither do the others there.
Just got to let things play out and see what happens.