Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath? (Read 22391 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #80 on: October 22, 2020, 04:53:04 PM »
He calls that evidence.  :rofl:

Fact is I spent an hour trying to find a threat against Biden supporters. All these little millennial twits keep saying both sides are doing it. Really? Where’s the proof? More lies. I have a niece I am going around and around with right now on FB. Another millennial. She said the same thing. It is happening on both sides. Turns out the threats against Biden supporters were emails from Iran on Biden’s behalf. If you take away the Iran emails, calls and voicemails there is nothing I could find.

Now she is saying that a right wing group that hates trump sent the letter I posted. I asked her to name one right wing group that hates trump that incites violence. She said the Lincoln Group which is a PAC and the Never Trumpers. I agree they hate trump. But neither group has any ties to violence and threats. So I asked her to give me one name. [crickets]

The Democrats are stupid. They got caught sending out "Vote Biden!" and "Don't Vote Trump!" warnings.

Republicans were smart enough to include "Burn this when done reading.  We'll know if you don't."

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

Inspector

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #81 on: October 22, 2020, 04:57:28 PM »
The Democrats are stupid. They got caught sending out "Vote Biden!" and "Don't Vote Trump!" warnings.

Republicans were smart enough to include "Burn this when done reading.  We'll know if you don't."

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:rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #83 on: October 22, 2020, 06:28:22 PM »
Look what is happening in NH and KC:
Lemme check with my buddy in KC. He’s a “well prepared” gun nut. I’d love to see his response. 🤔

drck1000

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #84 on: October 22, 2020, 10:17:00 PM »


Inspector

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #85 on: October 23, 2020, 02:16:39 AM »
Here are some I can find.  The last one is 100% not iran lol

https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/local-politics/trailer-park-biden-voter-intimidation-letter/73-56daf9cd-5eb8-49eb-a768-4e3cb08640a3

https://fox8.com/news/i-team/i-team-threatening-letters-sent-to-trump-supporters-in-northeast-ohio/

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/man-threatens-bidenharris-supporters-with-letter-at-front-door/65-11efe774-ba2b-473b-93c6-0ae73b52c956
You call this proof? Once again you post links that don’t support what you are saying and support everything I am saying. Do you even bother to read what I say and what the articles that you post say? The first one is just more BS from you about a landlord saying to his tenants to vote any way they want. The second one is about a letter sent to Trump supporters which supports what I have been saying and is not what I asked you for. And the last one involves one mentally disturbed man threatening one citizen. Once again, I asked for proof that a right wing group is threatening property destruction and possibly life towards Biden supporters. The letter I posted is being investigated as being distributed by an organized group threatening numerous people across 1 or more states. Your example is an isolated incident which. My example is about numerous voter intimidation. Two very different things. You once again are grasping at straws. Just stop, you are making yourself look worse everything you post this crap.
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SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #86 on: October 25, 2020, 01:12:35 PM »
Preaching to the choir, but good points for those who are considering buying guns. Amazingly, there are still many on the fence. Been getting a lot more “do you do handgun classes for permit to acquire” lately.


DesertRangerTycho

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #87 on: October 26, 2020, 12:34:35 AM »
You are wrong in comparing China to Nazi Germany and Imperialistic Japan. To compare the Chinese people to Nazis without understanding their history and culture is very wrong, insulting to Chinese and irresponsible. Hong Kong was not "taken over".

Tell that to the millions of Uyghurs in concentration camps or the 60-100 million Chinese murdered by the Chinese Communist Party.  It is ironic you do not think that the CCP is akin to the Nazis -Communism is a literally concept born of German thought.  And while Nazism differs in that it was a reaction to the rise of Socialism (Diluted Communism) we all know both systems have only yielded mass murder and abject poverty wherever they went.

Kuleana

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #88 on: October 26, 2020, 08:08:08 AM »
Tell that to the millions of Uyghurs in concentration camps or the 60-100 million Chinese murdered by the Chinese Communist Party.
First, where did you get these numbers?  The CIA Factbook?

Second, concentrations camps?  Did the people, who named them as such, ever visited them?  Where is the photo-evidence, the crematoriums, etc.?

Third, if the CCP did indeed murder the millions of Chinese you claim, I don't see the Chinese people overthrowing the CCP any time soon, which says a lot.



It is ironic you do not think that the CCP is akin to the Nazis -Communism is a literally concept born of German thought.  And while Nazism differs in that it was a reaction to the rise of Socialism (Diluted Communism) we all know both systems have only yielded mass murder and abject poverty wherever they went.
First, do capitalist countries, such as the US empire, not have blood and other war crimes, on their hands?

Second, the non-capitalistic and non-democratic system you criticize in China has raised more people out of poverty and resulted, in the fastest growing number of millionaires, in the World, as of 2020.  The US empire has never been able to match such success, during that same time span.

omnigun

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #89 on: October 26, 2020, 08:55:36 AM »
First, where did you get these numbers?  The CIA Factbook?

Second, concentrations camps?  Did the people, who named them as such, ever visited them?  Where is the photo-evidence, the crematoriums, etc.?

Third, if the CCP did indeed murder the millions of Chinese you claim, I don't see the Chinese people overthrowing the CCP any time soon, which says a lot.


First, do capitalist countries, such as the US empire, not have blood and other war crimes, on their hands?

Second, the non-capitalistic and non-democratic system you criticize in China has raised more people out of poverty and resulted, in the fastest growing number of millionaires, in the World, as of 2020.  The US empire has never been able to match such success, during that same time span.

Hard to get photos if you are not allowed to take pictures.  Though I doubt they actively murder people daily.  They just imprison, torture, brainwash people who did nothing wrong other than being born in a different culture/religion/race.   "The People" didn't overthrow the nazis, doesn't say much.  People in fear tend not to rise up always.

You really think because of communism Chinese people have been raised out of poverty?  You know most Chinese are still in poverty.   Also how's communism working in Venezuela?  All those rich folks, I hear that country is going great with that socialism. 

If china took over Hawaii would you rejoice or would you rather there be original Communist Republic of Hawaii?   Do you think previous Hawaiian monarchy was communist? 

Kuleana

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #90 on: October 26, 2020, 09:55:11 AM »
Hard to get photos if you are not allowed to take pictures.  Though I doubt they actively murder people daily.  They just imprison, torture, brainwash people who did nothing wrong other than being born in a different culture/religion/race.
I have personally been to a number of such places and have conversed with many minorities in China, as being a Native Hawaiian minority myself, and have never been told the Nazi-like stories that the American anti-China propaganda has been spreading, on this issue.



People in fear tend not to rise up always.
More so lately; we, Hawaiians, beg to differ.



You really think because of communism Chinese people have been raised out of poverty?  You know most Chinese are still in poverty.   Also how's communism working in Venezuela?  All those rich folks, I hear that country is going great with that socialism. 
Yes, China's socialist system that incorporates certain elements, of free-market capitalism, is the primary reason, for their economic success.  There are still many Chinese living poverty, but are slowly being raised, out of poverty, every year, not to mention the fast number of new millionaires China boasts.  Not bad at all.



Also how's communism working in Venezuela?  All those rich folks, I hear that country is going great with that socialism. 
You can blame that on the US's geopolitical policy towards Venezuela, which makes no secret of its imperial desire, to set-up another puppet vassal state, in order to control that countries natural resources.



If china took over Hawaii would you rejoice or would you rather there be original Communist Republic of Hawaii?   Do you think previous Hawaiian monarchy was communist?
First, China does not have a habit of invading other people's countries like how the US empire has done since its illegal annexation of Hawaii in 1898.

Second, the Kingdom of Hawaii was not communist, but incorporated a number of socialist principles.

omnigun

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #91 on: October 26, 2020, 10:10:55 AM »
I have personally been to a number of such places and have conversed with many minorities in China, as being a Native Hawaiian minority myself, and have never been told the Nazi-like stories that the American anti-China propaganda has been spreading, on this issue.

Have you been to the Uyghurs region?  You do know they brainwash their people right?


More so lately; we, Hawaiians, beg to differ.

What fear?  You know BLM are burning cities down,  does fear exist in the USA?

Yes, China's socialist system that incorporates certain elements, of free-market capitalism, is the primary reason, for their economic success.  There are still many Chinese living poverty, but are slowly being raised, out of poverty, every year, not to mention the fast number of new millionaires China boasts.  Not bad at all.

So the getting out of poverty is worth losing all your free rights? 

You can blame that on the US's geopolitical policy towards Venezuela, which makes no secret of its imperial desire, to set-up another puppet vassal state, in order to control that countries natural resources.

So their leadership and corruption is the USA’s fault?  Not everything is the USA boogyman fault….


First, China does not have a habit of invading other people's countries like how the US empire has done since its illegal annexation of Hawaii in 1898.

Clearly you don’t know history..

Chinese Civil War
(1927–1950)
Battle of Chamdo
-1950
Korean War
First Taiwan Strait Crisis
(1954–1955)
Second Taiwan Strait Crisis
-1958
Tibetan Uprising
-1959
China–Burma border campaign
(1960–1961)
Xinjiang conflict
(1960–present)
Sino-Indian War
-1962
Vietnam War
(1965–1969)
Nathu La and Cho La clashes
-1967
Sino-Soviet Border Conflict: Zhenbao Island Incident
-1969
Battle of the Paracel Islands
-1974
Sino-Vietnamese War
-1979
Sino-Vietnamese conflicts
(1979–1991)
Third Taiwan Strait Crisis
-1996
War on Terror
(2001–present)
Operation Ocean Shield
(2009–2016)
Northern Mali conflict
(2012–present)
Syrian Civil War
(2011–present)

Tibet clearly rejoiced and joined willing, so did hongkong.  The fact they plan to take over Taiwan in the future is just their peaceful communist nature. Them fighting us in Korea and Vietnam was their form of foreign aid.


Second, the Kingdom of Hawaii was not communist, but incorporated a number of socialist principles.

So you just dislike democracy than?  Hows all the socialist Hawaiian programs working out for you?  Hear the Hawaiian homelands is a wonderful corruption free program.

drck1000

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #92 on: October 26, 2020, 10:19:51 AM »
So you just dislike democracy than?  Hows all the socialist Hawaiian programs working out for you?  Hear the Hawaiian homelands is a wonderful corruption free program.

Oh no you diin't. . .  :rofl:

And with the bolded text in response. . . somebody has been paying attention. . . :P

Kuleana

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #93 on: October 26, 2020, 10:37:48 AM »
No need to get emotional, as I will respond, to your counterarguments rationally. 


Have you been to the Uyghurs region?  You do know they brainwash their people right?
No I don't know that.  I have many Uyghur associates and the only ones that speak, of the atrocities you mention, are the ones, who love to give public speeches, to anti-Chinese audiences.



What fear?  You know BLM are burning cities down,  does fear exist in the USA?
You are very lucky to know that the reason Hawaiians have not resorted to that kind of violence is because we don't want to destroy our aina as well as the fact that the US empire is self-imploding, by itself.  Hawaiians need only to be patient.



So the getting out of poverty is worth losing all your free rights?
You make it sound like Chinese people are slaves, in their own country.  Western type democracy takes time and fundamental changes in culture, which may occur one day in China, but not right now.  Economic progress first, young one.



So their leadership and corruption is the USA’s fault?  Not everything is the USA boogyman fault….
Oh but it is.  I would more than love to cite historical examples, of how the US empire, not the American Republic, has screwed other nations over, in another thread, of course.



Clearly you don’t know history..

Chinese Civil War
(1927–1950)
Battle of Chamdo
-1950
Korean War
First Taiwan Strait Crisis
(1954–1955)
Second Taiwan Strait Crisis
-1958
Tibetan Uprising
-1959
China–Burma border campaign
(1960–1961)
Xinjiang conflict
(1960–present)
Sino-Indian War
-1962
Vietnam War
(1965–1969)
Nathu La and Cho La clashes
-1967
Sino-Soviet Border Conflict: Zhenbao Island Incident
-1969
Battle of the Paracel Islands
-1974
Sino-Vietnamese War
-1979
Sino-Vietnamese conflicts
(1979–1991)
Third Taiwan Strait Crisis
-1996
War on Terror
(2001–present)
Operation Ocean Shield
(2009–2016)
Northern Mali conflict
(2012–present)
Syrian Civil War
(2011–present)

These are skirmishes and not invasions or the toppling, of the body politic, of those nations listed.

BTW, Taiwan does not count, as that island belongs to China.



Tibet clearly rejoiced and joined willing, so did hongkong.  The fact they plan to take over Taiwan in the future is just their peaceful communist nature. Them fighting us in Korea and Vietnam was their form of foreign aid.
Tibet, Hong Kong, and Taiwan are all part of China; plain and simple.

The Chinese participation, in both the Korean and Vietnam conflicts were a response, to US imperial aggression.  The US was not suppose to cross the 38th parallel in Korea nor approach the Yalu River.  Vietnam was a little more complex.



Hows all the socialist Hawaiian programs working out for you?  Hear the Hawaiian homelands is a wonderful corruption free program.
Those socialist programs are not Hawaiian's creation, but abominations, from the US, designed to prevent real social, economic, and national restoration progress.

ren

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #94 on: October 26, 2020, 10:45:59 AM »
Tell that to the millions of Uyghurs in concentration camps or the 60-100 million Chinese murdered by the Chinese Communist Party.  It is ironic you do not think that the CCP is akin to the Nazis -Communism is a literally concept born of German thought.  And while Nazism differs in that it was a reaction to the rise of Socialism (Diluted Communism) we all know both systems have only yielded mass murder and abject poverty wherever they went.

here we go...
I did not mention the CCP I mentioned the PEOPLE. To understand that is to live there and have relatives that still live there.
Deeds Not Words

omnigun

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #95 on: October 26, 2020, 10:53:29 AM »
No need to get emotional, as I will respond, to your counterarguments rationally. 

No I don't know that.  I have many Uyghur associates and the only ones that speak, of the atrocities you mention, are the ones, who love to give public speeches, to anti-Chinese audiences.

I am sure there are some Jewish people who didn’t speak ill of Germany too.  Doesn’t make the atrocities not happen.

You are very lucky to know that the reason Hawaiians have not resorted to that kind of violence is because we don't want to destroy our aina as well as the fact that the US empire is self-imploding, by itself.  Hawaiians need only to be patient.

True I’ll give you guys that, atleast you know not to destroy your own home.  But I doubt the US empire is imploding.


You make it sound like Chinese people are slaves, in their own country.  Western type democracy takes time and fundamental changes in culture, which may occur one day in China, but not right now.  Economic progress first, young one.

So you value economic success over freedom?  Was slavery and the history of economic freedom in the USA the right way to start off a country?



Oh but it is.  I would more than love to cite historical examples, of how the US empire, not the American Republic, has screwed other nations over, in another thread, of course.

Ok

These are skirmishes and not invasions or the toppling, of the body politic, of those nations listed.

They sent countless of people to fight on the other side against the US.  How is this a skirmish?  Just because they are bad at war and couldn’t take over a country on their own doesn’t mean they haven’t tried.

BTW, Taiwan does not count, as that island belongs to China.

Taiwan split from china and formed its own nation.  It does not belong to China.  Its like when USA broke off from Britain.

Tibet, Hong Kong, and Taiwan are all part of China; plain and simple.

False.  Tibet was annexed.  Tibet being annexed is all good.  But Hawaii being annexed is bad?  Atleast remain a little consistent.   
Hong Kong was split off from the mainland china long enough to develop its own policies and culture.  For someone who was so against Hawaii being taken over from its policies and culture it’s a bit weird you support another having the same thing happen to them.
Taiwan split from china and formed its own nation.  It does not belong to China.  Its like when USA broke off from Britain.


The Chinese participation, in both the Korean and Vietnam conflicts were a response, to US imperial aggression.  The US was not suppose to cross the 38th parallel in Korea nor approach the Yalu River.  Vietnam was a little more complex.
I don’t think this thread is enough to expand on this situation as it is complex.  But it was not truly a response for US aggression they had their own goals.  They just teamed up with the losing side.


These socialist programs are not Hawaiian's creation, but abominations, from the US, designed to prevent real social, economic, and national restoration progress.

How is giving homes and land to Hawaiians designed to prevent real social, economic, and national restoration progress.  Is Kamehameha designed to uneducated Hawaiians?  Is Queens hospital designed to make Hawaiians sick? 
This is my personal opinion, but I think they are designed to help and liberate the Hawaiians and improve their life. But with corruption and Hawaiian political fighting these programs have not fulfilled their purpose.



I am trying to have a rational conversation too. 

ren

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #96 on: October 26, 2020, 10:55:32 AM »
what does all this have to do with preps for the elections?
Deeds Not Words

Direjackalope

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #97 on: October 26, 2020, 12:22:35 PM »
what does all this have to do with preps for the elections?

Shhh!  This is going to be a hoot.

QUIETShooter

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #98 on: October 26, 2020, 12:40:04 PM »
what does all this have to do with preps for the elections?

I dunno.  But fun to read.

Shhh!  This is going to be a hoot.

Ok.  :rofl:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Are you making preparations for the 2020 election aftermath?
« Reply #99 on: October 26, 2020, 12:41:33 PM »
I'm planning on fireworks!   :geekdanc: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall