Not even the slightest awareness of the behemoth entitlement  monster LBJ crippled the nation with.

After the New Deal the United States experienced the greatest expansion of prosperity in it's history so any point you were about to make is moot.

But now the bankster class has robbed us of everything else so of course they are coming after that next. They've been scheming about it for some time.

Not even the slightest awareness of the behemoth entitlement  monster LBJ crippled the nation with.

Of course, the left desperately needs that under-class to keep as a captive voting block in perpetuity, as LBJ famously said they would be.

Yes our current military industrial complex is a huge waste of money that has bankrupted the Federal government along with various other entitlement programs that benefit only the wealthy at the cost of everyone else.

So you’re saying the US is running at a deficit because of the military?!?!  Can’t be because the knuckleheads in DC spend on all sorts of other stuff?

The US is spending too much both on a non-cost effective military and entitlement programs that go beyond provide assistance for those who can't be productive in society.

To help decrease the yearly federal budget deficit, the US needs to end its imperial military establishment around the planet and focus on building the most advanced military suited only for domestic home defense and only continue those human service programs that encourage its populace to become productive members of society.


And you rambled on an on about some utopian vision without any practical proposal how to get there. It’s easy to say I want to be prosperous by going to college and getting into a lucrative career field. Easy to say but not quite as easy when there’s a thing called reality.

The dogma of attaining a four-year college degree and hoping for a six-digit salary is long since over.

Utopia is journey to take on, but keeping in mind, not a destination. 

The US is spending too much both on a non-cost effective military and entitlement programs that go beyond provide assistance for those who can't be productive in society.

To help decrease the yearly federal budget deficit, the US needs to end its imperial military establishment around the planet and focus on building the most advanced military suited only for domestic home defense and only continue those human service programs that encourage its populace to become productive members of society.

The dogma of attaining a four-year college degree and hoping for a six-digit salary is long since over.

Utopia is journey to take on, but keeping in mind, not a destination. 

TARP, QE, subsidies for thriving industries, not to mention generous taxation laws that just got a whole lot more generous. All those are vehicles to take tax money from everyone and give it to the rich, which is why we are in this disaster of wealth inequality at the moment.

Although the military is a socialist jobs program, the largest part is a subsidy for the war industry. Every time there is some sort of action look at what happens to the markets. Same when a foreign aid package gets announced, since that's also a subsidy for weapons manufacturers.

Then they have the nerve to point their media fingers at Medicare and social security and start whining about Marxism.

"Socialism for me, law of the jungle capitalism for everyone else!"

The point was that it’s easy for someone like hvy to say it’s easy to get to his utopian society and ignore the realities of life.

I understand where Hvybarrels is coming from and sympathetic; however, because the realities of human nature, as you stated, society at its very best can only come close to an ideal society, whatever that looks like, but still be far from paradise.

"Socialism for me, law of the jungle capitalism for everyone else!"

I generally agree. Many times I do see where he and you are coming from and generally do sympathize. Just not agreeing with the approach or extreme stances taken. That said, that is one of the remaining true freedoms we all share.

Enjoy the rest of your weekend Kuleana! 

The Great Society. That was before my time, but yeah, that’s one aspect I was referring to. Like hvy’s hammering on the military, I would argue similar for entitlements. A “good” idea in principle, but an inefficient, abused and wasteful system due to mismanagement or twisting of the system. At least that’s the way I see it.

Yes our current military industrial complex is a huge waste of money that has bankrupted the Federal government along with various other entitlement programs that benefit only the wealthy at the cost of everyone else.
And the worst part is that despite all the lavished money the military is fundamentally broken.

The genesis of the scheme appeared to be a cynical democrat ploy to gain a chattel class beholden to them.  You have heard of LBJ's infamous statement about it, right?

The built in automatic increases in $$ paid out are what is killing us.  Unsustainable and absolutely no incentive for the underclass to break free.

The genesis of the scheme appeared to be a cynical democrat ploy to gain a chattel class beholden to them.  You have heard of LBJ's infamous statement about it, right?

The built in automatic increases in $$ paid out are what is killing us.  Unsustainable and absolutely no incentive for the underclass to break free.

Would you rather sit on your ass and collect checks or slave at McDonald's for minimum wage and no benefits into your 80's as part of the brave new economy?

No. However, I am against paying for the thousands that sit on their ass, doing nothing, at my expense.

At least when you give money to the poor it goes back into the real economy because they are forced to spend it out of necessity. On the other hand when you give welfare to the wealthy they tend to sit on it or invest in speculative bubbles.

That is true, provided the poor are not using whatever handout for drugs, etc., which might be very common.  As for the ultra-wealthy, I must restate the situation as we the people are not giving them anything.  The ultra-wealthy are just giving it to themselves by the bought-and-paid-for politicians they have in Congress.


But what do you think would happen if we suddenly cut off welfare for the poor without making sure there were viable opportunities are available?

They will eventually rise up, begin to organize, and the US may then see its first Communist uprising, as Lenin would have surmised.