Nike: Here hold my beer (Read 15847 times)

Jl808

Re: Nike: Here hold my beer
« Reply #60 on: September 12, 2018, 09:06:16 AM »
Ouch.  Too bad for Nike. 
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changemyoil66

Re: Nike: Here hold my beer
« Reply #61 on: September 12, 2018, 09:49:24 AM »
This is what I've been trying to explain to SJW's.  That he's going to make way more than being in the NFL and doing less (no practice, getting hurt, etc...).

Also that he's taking advantage of capitalism, which he claims to be against.  I bet he has a smart phone also.

The key to making money is have a cause that has a good sounding name and be a leftist.  If you defy Trump, even better.

punaperson

Re: Nike: Here hold my beer
« Reply #62 on: September 13, 2018, 10:58:54 AM »
Sure, there are anecdotes, but overall, statistically speaking, it is not a thing.
Today from David Codrea's War on Guns blog:

For all the live links; http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2018/09/an-unsubstantiated-claim.html

An Unsubstantiated Claim

"Most cops are good..." [More https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/police-shootings-david-french-changed-writing/]

For sure? https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22only+ones%22+site:waronguns.blogspot.com&btnG=Search&lr=lang_en

Define "good." Define how "most" is determined.

What percentage who haven't done things themselves have nonetheless kept quiet when they saw wrong being committed by their peers?

While all have taken the oath to the Constitution, how many would nonetheless enforce infringements on the right of the people to keep and bear arms, at gunpoint with the threat of lethal force if not immediately obeyed?

Is that "good"?

It's not the first time I've thought French mistaken (https://waronguns.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-french-mistake.html). Or National Review an outlet for  neocon frauds (https://waronguns.blogspot.com/2005/10/replace-miers-with-bork.html).

eyeeatingfish

Re: Nike: Here hold my beer
« Reply #63 on: September 13, 2018, 11:45:15 PM »
Today from David Codrea's War on Guns blog:

For all the live links; http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2018/09/an-unsubstantiated-claim.html

An Unsubstantiated Claim

"Most cops are good..." [More https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/police-shootings-david-french-changed-writing/]

For sure? https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22only+ones%22+site:waronguns.blogspot.com&btnG=Search&lr=lang_en

Define "good." Define how "most" is determined.

What percentage who haven't done things themselves have nonetheless kept quiet when they saw wrong being committed by their peers?

While all have taken the oath to the Constitution, how many would nonetheless enforce infringements on the right of the people to keep and bear arms, at gunpoint with the threat of lethal force if not immediately obeyed?

Is that "good"?

It's not the first time I've thought French mistaken (https://waronguns.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-french-mistake.html). Or National Review an outlet for  neocon frauds (https://waronguns.blogspot.com/2005/10/replace-miers-with-bork.html).

once again, I wasn't talking about how many good cops or bad cops there are. The question was executions, there aren't statistically significant rates of cops straight up executing people these days. At least not unless you are trying to redefine the word execution to mean other things.

punaperson

Re: Nike: Here hold my beer
« Reply #64 on: September 14, 2018, 07:19:08 AM »
Nike's Kaepernick ad draws record likes on social media, sends stock to all-time high amid sales boost

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/14/nikes-kaepernick-ad-should-fuel-sales-as-retailer-knows-its-consumer.html

Nike's controversial ad campaign with former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick has drawn a surge in Instagram followers and likes on Twitter and Facebook, which should translate into higher sales, according to one analyst.

Nike added roughly 170,000 Instagram followers around the timing of the release of its ad campaign, Wedbush Securities analyst Christopher Svezia said in a research note Friday.

"Indeed, [Nike] management knows its American consumer well and the campaign featuring Mr. Kaepernick is a positive for the brand and likely its sales," Svezia said. The company's shares hit a record high of $83.90 on Thursday. Wedbush placed a 12-month price target of $90 a share on the stock.

punaperson

Re: Nike: Here hold my beer
« Reply #65 on: September 14, 2018, 07:34:58 AM »
once again, I wasn't talking about how many good cops or bad cops there are. The question was executions, there aren't statistically significant rates of cops straight up executing people these days. At least not unless you are trying to redefine the word execution to mean other things.
Well, the issue IS about how many good cops and how many bad cops there are. And how many of those "good cops" know about the "bad cops" and don't do anything about it (anyone here think that only the indicted cops in the Kealoha case are the only ones who knew what was going on?). There is a LOT of evidence that corruption (of one kind or another) is quite common in police departments (missing drugs from the evidence locker? "We'll get back to you in a couple of years about that", while the cops who are "persons of interest" retire at full pension, etc.). Some people believe that these people who are given special privileges of all kinds, including the right to bear arms outside the home for self-defense here in Hawaii, ought to be held to a "higher standard". Sure, that's debatable, but a "lower standard"? Get away with shit BECAUSE they're cops?

Kaepernick, Black Lives Matter, etc. may be being hyperbolic if they use the term "execution" for all, most, or even many cases of questionable police use of lethal force, but there is no doubt that cops kill and seriously injure a lot of people (many of whom are not black), who, if you or I took the same action in the same situation, we'd be locked up for a long long time, while many of the cops either go free or get the proverbial "slap on the wrist". The search list of Codrea's site provides many examples of just such disparate treatment for cops who obviously abuse their "privileged" status. Equal treatment under the law would be a good standard to hold to, but that is obviously not the case.

oldfart

Re: Nike: Here hold my beer
« Reply #66 on: September 14, 2018, 08:11:40 AM »
Nike's Kaepernick ad draws record likes on social media, sends stock to all-time high amid sales boost

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/14/nikes-kaepernick-ad-should-fuel-sales-as-retailer-knows-its-consumer.html

Nike's controversial ad campaign with former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick has drawn a surge in Instagram followers and likes on Twitter and Facebook, which should translate into higher sales, according to one analyst.

Nike added roughly 170,000 Instagram followers around the timing of the release of its ad campaign, Wedbush Securities analyst Christopher Svezia said in a research note Friday.

"Indeed, [Nike] management knows its American consumer well and the campaign featuring Mr. Kaepernick is a positive for the brand and likely its sales," Svezia said. The company's shares hit a record high of $83.90 on Thursday. Wedbush placed a 12-month price target of $90 a share on the stock.
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Imagine how high their stock would be today if their new ad campaign featured a burning American flag with a pile of dog shit on it....
"Just doo it"
What, Me Worry?

macsak

Re: Nike: Here hold my beer
« Reply #67 on: September 14, 2018, 09:03:31 AM »
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Imagine how high their stock would be today if their new ad campaign featured a burning American flag with a pile of dog shit on it....
"Just doo it"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/bogus-nike-coupon-featuring-colin-kaepernick-offers-discount-to-people-of-color/ar-BBNiIy8?ocid=spartanntp

Flapp_Jackson

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changemyoil66

Re: Nike: Here hold my beer
« Reply #69 on: September 14, 2018, 02:16:25 PM »
What ever happened to the black privilege Starbucks coupons?

eyeeatingfish

Re: Nike: Here hold my beer
« Reply #70 on: September 14, 2018, 10:26:02 PM »
Kaepernick, Black Lives Matter, etc. may be being hyperbolic if they use the term "execution" for all, most, or even many cases of questionable police use of lethal force, but there is no doubt that cops kill and seriously injure a lot of people (many of whom are not black), who, if you or I took the same action in the same situation, we'd be locked up for a long long time, while many of the cops either go free or get the proverbial "slap on the wrist". The search list of Codrea's site provides many examples of just such disparate treatment for cops who obviously abuse their "privileged" status. Equal treatment under the law would be a good standard to hold to, but that is obviously not the case.

I could take some issues there but I think that that is a much fairer and more accurate statement.

changemyoil66

Re: Nike: Here hold my beer
« Reply #71 on: September 17, 2018, 09:20:46 AM »
2017 stats showed that PD killed 800 black people.  But what the stat also says of all of those, only 16 were unarmed.  So 700+ were armed.

And of course the media just used "800 blacks killed by police". 

punaperson

Re: Nike: Here hold my beer
« Reply #72 on: September 17, 2018, 09:39:37 AM »
2017 stats showed that PD killed 800 black people.  But what the stat also says of all of those, only 16 were unarmed.  So 700+ were armed.

And of course the media just used "800 blacks killed by police".
That's a pretty much useless statistic. How many white people/hispanic people/"asian" people/etc. were killed by police? How many were ruled "justified" and how many prosecuted as crimes, and what were the specific charges, and how many were convicted? Of those ruled "justified" how many would a "reasonable" person conclude were "questionable", or would have been ruled differently had the exact same circumstances happened with an ordinary legally-carrying citizen in place of the officer? Etc.