Hawaii youth indoctrination (Read 2749 times)

ren

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oldfart

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2020, 12:19:17 PM »
They extract information to feed voters.
So that is wrong already.
Extracted information is dependent on the extractor and what is important to that person.

2020 version of Hitler's youth corps
What, Me Worry?

Mdotweber

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2020, 03:07:15 PM »
The contributors ..... :rofl:
https://www.hoohuli.org/supporters
"Dont forget, incoming fire has the right of way"-Clint Smith?

oldfart

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2020, 06:11:41 PM »
The contributors ..... :rofl:
https://www.hoohuli.org/supporters
...
Supporters appear to be young idealistic Malama da aina folks. So I presume they are attempting to sway voters towards anti business, anti development candidates.

We'll all be Kalo farmers or eating impossible whoppers.
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changemyoil66

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2020, 07:29:50 PM »
Bet they lean left.

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ren

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eyeeatingfish

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2020, 09:44:46 PM »
Encouraging people do vote is indoctrination?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2020, 11:31:22 PM »
Encouraging people do vote is indoctrination?


Encouraging them to vote for only Left-wing, SJW issues and positions?

Yep.  It is.
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2020, 09:12:49 PM »

Encouraging them to vote for only Left-wing, SJW issues and positions?

Yep.  It is.

So by that logic teaching the kids the pledge of allegiance, talking to people about gun rights, and raising awareness about conservative issues is also indoctrination?

But the main point to my question was why are we calling it indoctrination when the link provided doesn't indicate any political leaning. Or did I miss something in the article?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2020, 10:36:40 PM »
So by that logic teaching the kids the pledge of allegiance, talking to people about gun rights, and raising awareness about conservative issues is also indoctrination?

But the main point to my question was why are we calling it indoctrination when the link provided doesn't indicate any political leaning. Or did I miss something in the article?

Strawman.

But, you knew that, since you do it ALL THE TIME!   :geekdanc:   :rofl:

Yes, you missed it, assuming you spent more that 10 seconds on that site.

The sponsors and questions being asked and answered are Green New Deal, SJW, BLM type issues.  Go back and read with a more critical eye.
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

Heavies

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2020, 08:47:56 PM »
add a sprinkle of racism in Hawaii
https://www.kitv.com/story/42441221/a-kids-play-about-racism-aims-to-start-difficult-conversation-early

Only racism I've seen in Hawaii is against haole and Micronesians....    just sayin

Most locals aren't racist, unless Asshole is a race, then yeah, every muthafkr is racist.

Kuleana

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2020, 08:45:50 AM »
add a sprinkle of racism in Hawaii
https://www.kitv.com/story/42441221/a-kids-play-about-racism-aims-to-start-difficult-conversation-early

There was no racism in the isles, until it was introduced by those who overthrew the Kingdom of Hawaii.  When those White American-descended racists insurgents gained control, they enacted many racist laws for the next 60 years that discriminated almost everyone than was not White.

One just needs to research the "Big Five" or the history of today's Hawaiian National Bank to understand why the Hawaiians and the non-White residents living in Hawaii hated those White people, who were in majority, Republicans, BTW.  It was not until, Hawaii became the so-called 50th state, that all the non-White people in Hawaii kicked those White racist Republicans out and let the other cheek-of-the-same-buttock, Democrats that many people dislike today, take over.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2020, 12:18:52 PM »
There was no racism in the isles, until it was introduced by those who overthrew the Kingdom of Hawaii.  When those White American-descended racists insurgents gained control, they enacted many racist laws for the next 60 years that discriminated almost everyone than was not White.

One just needs to research the "Big Five" or the history of today's Hawaiian National Bank to understand why the Hawaiians and the non-White residents living in Hawaii hated those White people, who were in majority, Republicans, BTW.  It was not until, Hawaii became the so-called 50th state, that all the non-White people in Hawaii kicked those White racist Republicans out and let the other cheek-of-the-same-buttock, Democrats that many people dislike today, take over.

I was unaware you lived in the 1800s and before.

Good to know.  Look at the Kamehameha School admissions policies and other programs that discriminate based on race.

Racism exists in all cultures.  Get a clue.
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

Kuleana

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2020, 09:20:04 AM »
Good to know.  Look at the Kamehameha School admissions policies and other programs that discriminate based on race.
Please do not use presentism and your lack of Hawaii Kingdom era history knowledge to make judgements.  Kamehameha Schools was initially an all boys school that served Hawaiians founded in 1887.  It was created in response to the all-Whites only schools (e.g., Punahou, etc.) to ensure Hawaiians would have an education on-par or better than what the racist White Hawaiian nationals were hoping to prevent aboriginal Hawaiians from attaining.




Racism exists in all cultures.  Get a clue.
Yes; but to suffer racism by White people, who illegally took over their nation, racially subjugated them, confiscated their land, rewritten their history, replaced their aboriginal language and culture, and brainwashed them into thinking they are and should be "Good Brown Americans", is the war crime of genocide.

ren

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2020, 09:35:43 AM »
Please do not use presentism and your lack of Hawaii Kingdom era history knowledge to make judgements.  Kamehameha Schools was initially an all boys school that served Hawaiians founded in 1887.  It was created in response to the all-Whites only schools (e.g., Punahou, etc.) to ensure Hawaiians would have an education on-par or better than what the racist White Hawaiian nationals were hoping to prevent aboriginal Hawaiians from attaining.


Yes; but to suffer racism by White people, who illegally took over their nation, racially subjugated them, confiscated their land, rewritten their history, replaced their aboriginal language and culture, and brainwashed them into thinking they are and should be "Good Brown Americans", is the war crime of genocide.

no.
The United Nations Genocide Convention, which was established in 1948, defines genocide as "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such" including the killing of its members, causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, deliberately imposing living conditions that seek to "bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part", preventing births, or forcibly transferring children out of the group to another group
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eyeeatingfish

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2020, 09:51:55 AM »
Strawman.

But, you knew that, since you do it ALL THE TIME!   :geekdanc:   :rofl:

Yes, you missed it, assuming you spent more that 10 seconds on that site.

The sponsors and questions being asked and answered are Green New Deal, SJW, BLM type issues.  Go back and read with a more critical eye.

Ahh, the straw man king  claims I made a straw man because he can't answer the question honestly.   :crazy:

Sick of the double standard here. If it is a group educating people on left issues they are just brainwashing indoctrinators, but if it is a group educating people on right issues then it is patriotic, good work, smart, blah blah blah.
Don't agree with their stances on issues, fine, great, but calling them an indoctrination group is excessive when you wouldn't call the NRA or HDF group giving classes to kids indoctrination.

Don't like that they are sharing their positions on political issues? Too bad, suck it up. If you want to make a difference just do the same for your issues instead of whining that they share theirs.

Kuleana

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2020, 09:56:35 AM »
The United Nations Genocide Convention, which was established in 1948, defines genocide as "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such" including the killing of its members, causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, deliberately imposing living conditions that seek to "bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part", preventing births, or forcibly transferring children out of the group to another group

Under international humanitarian law, which includes the law of occupation and the protection afforded civilians who are not engaged in war, denationalization is not only a war crime but is synonymous with the term genocide. Since the occupation of the Hawaiian Kingdom began during the Spanish-American War, the United States embarked on a deliberate campaign of forced denationalization in order to conceal the occupation and militarization of a neutral State. Denationalization, in its totality, is genocide.

Please see the photo below taken in 1907 for Harper's Weekly magazine, as an example of the indoctrination that the American imperialists were doing to erase Hawaiian Kingdom history and replace it with fake pro-US history to the keiki in the recently implemented American public fool system in Hawaii.  Also, pay attention to the racist - Nazi style salute that they were told to use.

Can we say racist indoctrination anyone?

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2020, 10:01:09 AM »
Under international humanitarian law, which includes the law of occupation and the protection afforded civilians who are not engaged in war, denationalization is not only a war crime but is synonymous with the term genocide. Since the occupation of the Hawaiian Kingdom began during the Spanish-American War, the United States embarked on a deliberate campaign of forced denationalization in order to conceal the occupation and militarization of a neutral State. Denationalization, in its totality, is genocide.

Please see the photo below taken in 1907 for Harper's Weekly magazine, as an example of the indoctrination that the American imperialists were doing to erase Hawaiian Kingdom history and replace it with fake pro-US history to the keiki in the recently implemented American public fool system in Hawaii.  Also, pay attention to the racist - Nazi style salute that they were told to use.

Can we say racist indoctrination anyone?

That salute existed before the Nazi's. It cannot be said that the salute in the picture represents beliefs the salute became associated with 30 years later.

Kuleana

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2020, 10:04:22 AM »
That salute existed before the Nazi's. It cannot be said that the salute in the picture represents beliefs the salute became associated with 30 years later.

The salute may have not, but the racism and denationalization programs that took place, after the period of the illegal annexation of Hawaii in 1898, by the US were intentional.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Hawaii youth indoctrination
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2020, 10:14:58 AM »
The salute may have not, but the racism and denationalization programs that took place, after the period of the illegal annexation of Hawaii in 1898, by the US were intentional.

Agreed. I was just pointing out that associating the picture with Nazism was inaccurate.