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There are some good guys who share good info who are really good shooters here so that’s good!!!!
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I think you're WAY over analyzing things.  Or at least my perspective is that at a certain point, you're going to just have to try and find out for yourself.  JMHO.  Knowing full well the variety of feedback one gets on forums, and not just this forum.  Ideally, you find folks where their interests align with yours and that helps.  But there are many folks that some of this stuff is academic (as in they don't really shoot all that much) or they don't give a lot of context of what their use is. 

I had a discussion with my gun builder on tuners or brake and just tune via hand loading.  Luckily, his shooting preferences or interests aligned decently (not the same) as mine.  That and there are many who are able to tune their setups for similar caliber, distances and accuracy expectation.  Personally, I'm not striving for ultimate accuracy.  If I were, I probably would have gone with a setup way different, and closer to the F-Class or benchrest setups.  I watched a few of the Lou Merdica videos, as well as some that are on the "members section" of a forum.  While that guy has seemingly been there and done that, not quite been doing what I am looking to do.  If you are looking to do that, that will be awesome.  And looks like quite expensive, as well a tremendous amount discipline to get there.  They buy barrels but bunches, powder but the 100s of pounds, whole lots of bullets, etc.  Craziness! But I can understand that that's what it takes (or can take) to get to their level.
Yes I see those peoples comments, forum gods and show up to the range and shooting is horrendous or NRA instructors who have questionable gun handling skills. I guess it’s all subjective.

I’m not over Analying, I just notice the trends of comments and what people are considering important and not important.

But I do notice people generalize and make assumptions which is all too common.

Sharing info as to what works for them with data is always the best. But no matter if they have the same so called parts for reloading or shooting they don’t do everything the same as another individual.

Like everything else it’s all subjective until you do it yourself. What works for one person may not work for another results may vary.
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So…. What did you order?  ???

So you can test the “harmonics”  ;D
Waiting on an HV 6BR 26” bartlien barrel.

I was reading mixed responses on the bolt action forums about heavier barrels. Some say there easy to tune with hand loads and some say for ultimate accuracy you will may need a tuner just because the barrel is so thick that minor changes in seating depth or powder load makes such a small diff down range.

Is the inside donut on the brass a concern? Some say yes and some say no.

Does neck turning make a difference? Some say yes and some say no.

Who knows depending on caliber, brass prep, powder, barrel, and chamber it all comes down to having to experiment based on what you have.

I’ve been following articles and videos of Lou Merdica who does a lot of testing. Interesting to hear his comments about what works and what doesn’t. He says if it doesn’t work at a 100 yards forget any distance further out.

I was also looking at a 30br. Interesting cartridge for target shooting and there was a section talking about hunting for those interested in that discipline.
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Calibers are 243/6mm, 264/6.5mm, 284/7mm and 308

Cartridges are looking like 280 AI, 7mm-08, 6.5x47 lapua, 6x47 lapua, 6BR, 6.5 Sherman, 30 Sherman magnum. Possibly another 6.5x284 and 243 AI with Bartlein 400MODBB Barrels. All the short action gonna be switch barrel off a defiance currently a 6XC.
Holly hell you don’t mess around!!!!

Do you chamber your own barrels?
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Nice, what did you order? For your BR?

I just got in some barrels, stocks and a chassis as well. But might be a little til l get things going.
What calibers are you going to run?
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Ordered a barrel… should I be concerned about harmonics?

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Events / Re: 2A Hawaii Fun Shoot-BBQ-Pot Luck- Sept.26
« on: September 09, 2021, 08:48:35 PM »
Can’t we all just get along
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Firearms and Accessories / Soda machine at the range
« on: September 09, 2021, 10:23:46 AM »
How do we get the soda machine filled at the range. I spoke to mike and he has called many times, I’ve also called my self and no one answers the phone.

I’ve also heard that only half the chain is taken down or the center pole is left in at the entrance so the truck driver can’t get through.

Anyone got connections with the vending machine. Sorry I can’t remember if it’s coke or Pepsi.
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Don't tempt me.  Haha

No promises not to, but don't see that in the foreseeable future.  Unless say I win the lotto or something. 

I just put in my order for the glass for my .308, so pause on spending for a bit for those larger purchases.  But, I did refi recently, so no payment for this month.  :hmm:   :crazy:  :rofl:
I tried a Kahles and man that glass is nice. It’s built like a tank too.

Always remember not to try something so nice that way you won’t know what you’re missing.
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Firearms and Accessories / Re: Bolt action Triggers
« on: September 05, 2021, 03:55:47 AM »

I've tried all and I went with Timney.  My stuff is geared mostly for hunting and I like the range of products and pricing from Timney.  I've got some older bolt-actions with non-replaceable triggers so I didn't want to have mix of single and 2-stage triggers.  Plus I was used to the single stage from hunting when I was younger.  Whatever I could replace with a Timney, I did.  I didn't know they made a Glock trigger.  Now I may have to get those.  Lol.


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What did you like about the Timney triggers?
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Firearms and Accessories / Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« on: September 04, 2021, 11:04:32 PM »
Brass arrived today.  Ordered from Whidden.  First time ordering from them and very impressed.  The box was packed very well, with each box individually packaged, gaps in the box filled well, and taped very well.  They even offer a gift after your first order.  I’ve been eyeing their dies, so this might get me to try more of their products.

Bullets on the way.  So very close to loading up for 6.5.  Think the barreled action is still a couple of weeks away though.

I could be wrong but aren't the whidden dies small base dies?
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Firearms and Accessories / 6BR
« on: September 04, 2021, 05:02:36 AM »
The madness behind the machines. The mental game is the hardest part to play!!!!!

Shot straight and keep them small!!!!

One day we show rigs!!!! 
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Firearms and Accessories / Re: 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« on: September 04, 2021, 04:58:25 AM »

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Firearms and Accessories / 6.5 Creedmoor - Your Experiences & Thoughts
« on: September 02, 2021, 07:47:37 AM »
Found the Hornady ELD match in stock.  :geekdanc:

Next need to order dies. Might have my 6.5 setup ready before my .308
Which dies do you have in mind? Someone mentioned to me the SAC dies are the way to go. I’m sure their great but $350 each die does puts a dent in the wallet.

I was looking at mighty armory FL dies. The neck size is a couple thou below a fully loaded round and it has a built in mandrel that sizes the neck back up to 1 thou under bullet diameter. Concentricity suppose to be around .0005 and requires the use of lanolin/alcohol type lube.

Their FL dies is not as expensive as SAC but not as cheap as Redding or Forster. I’m still doing more research on the mighty armory, if they have a good Labor Day sale maybe I’ll jump on the boat.
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Firearms and Accessories / Bolt action Triggers
« on: September 01, 2021, 11:26:37 PM »
What type of bolt action triggers is everyone using and why do you like it?

I tried a TT special flat shoe and it seems pretty good but wanted  something between the flat shoe and the pro curve.

I also tried the Gisselle 2 stage but that felt too mushy, almost sponge like. Didn’t really care for that sponge like take up, but that’s just me.

Any one have experience with a jewel trigger? 
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I don't mess that that scenars voodoo magic.    ;D

No, I haven't.  With my 1:10 barrel, I've only shot 168 gr and above.  I was intending to try up to the 220 gr range, but I've only gone up to 185 gr.  The Berger 168 gr hybrids have a high BC for that weight range.  I just started testing with that bullet when I got busy.  I will likely stick with the heavier Bergers for a while.  Because I have them and recommendation from my gun builder. 

A buddy has shot the 150-160 gr range, but his barrel twist is much slower than mine. 

Interesting test, eh?  You should try.  Go test um, Go test um, go. . .  8)  :D
i would test if I had access to anything greater than 100 yards… .
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Have you tried the 155 scenars out to 1000? I was reading about the Palma shooters like whidden and others.

The new 169 SMK suppose to have better BC than 175 gr according to the forums.

That would be an interesting test.
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Reloading / concentricity gauges
« on: August 30, 2021, 07:57:31 PM »
I used the Sinclair concentricity gauge to help adjust my dies. My factory rifle didn’t make a diff shooting loaded rounds with .001 run out of .005 run out. In fact I got better groups with the .005 runout.

Maybe it would make a difference in tight chamber custom guns where a few thou would cant the bullet to one side of the bore.

In fact factory rounds which I ran through the gauge were really bad. You can roll the round on a table and see the bullet wobble around. BH, Fed, to name a few. Armscor had better concentricity than BH and Fed.

But would love to hear other peoples experiences with a concentricity gauge and their results.
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Firearms and Accessories / Re: 6BR
« on: August 26, 2021, 12:51:34 PM »
So I was able to find a truck axle that the smith can chamber for 6br.

It should be in my hands by early November.

I’ll keep everyone posted….
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Firearms and Accessories / Re: 6BR
« on: August 25, 2021, 08:50:23 AM »
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