Tasers soon legal in HI (Read 5402 times)

changemyoil66

Tasers soon legal in HI
« on: June 23, 2021, 11:16:31 AM »
So the taser bill is not on Ige's veto list.

So effective Jan 1st is the ETA.

How you call gonna carry it? Open, concealled, IWB, AIWB, ankle, etc...

stangzilla

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2021, 11:30:48 AM »
we don't need any registration or permit?
just buy one and we are good to carry?
if so i would carry OWB or IWB depending on what i'm wearing.  or in the pocket if there is such a thing.  haven't really looked into tasers

changemyoil66

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2021, 11:43:30 AM »
we don't need any registration or permit?
just buy one and we are good to carry?
if so i would carry OWB or IWB depending on what i'm wearing.  or in the pocket if there is such a thing.  haven't really looked into tasers

No reg or permit required to buy or carry.  HPD actually testified that they cannot handle the work load if reg was required.  But I'm sure good ole Rhodes will amend to add this in later.

The seller is the one who needs permitting from HPD.  Which means you cannot transfer possession without said permit.

stangzilla

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2021, 12:15:32 PM »
would a stun gun be allowed?

changemyoil66

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2021, 12:18:30 PM »
would a stun gun be allowed?

Any electric gun or device that passes a current into someone else and is mobile.  So a TENS unit also falls under such definition.

groveler

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2021, 12:26:08 PM »
So the taser bill is not on Ige's veto list.

So effective Jan 1st is the ETA.

How you call gonna carry it? Open, concealled, IWB, AIWB, ankle, etc...
I concealed carried in WA state for 18 or so years.
My favorite was small of the back PPK/S
I'll do the same with a TASER.
I also carry a multi-tool.
I don't call cops. :thumbsup:

drck1000

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2021, 12:39:56 PM »
So the taser bill is not on Ige's veto list.

So effective Jan 1st is the ETA.

How you call gonna carry it? Open, concealled, IWB, AIWB, ankle, etc...
When you get one, can we test it on you?  And get video? 

aletheuo137

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2021, 12:47:32 PM »
When you get one, can we test it on you?  And get video?
It's electrifying!!!


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drck1000

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2021, 12:58:47 PM »
It's electrifying!!!


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I've been "test tazed".  I'm sure it was entertaining for those who witnessed.   :-X

I've seen videos of when a couple of college buddies went through training with tazers.  One of them is built like bowling ball.  He went charging and zap, down face plant.  It was pretty amazing actually.   ;D

changemyoil66

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2021, 01:11:45 PM »
When you get one, can we test it on you?  And get video?

Since all you older fakkas have an older heart, I guess I would be the guinea pig. 

Don't forget to ask your doctor if you're healthy enough for the blue pill too.

Glasser

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2021, 01:13:20 PM »
I have a feeling it will get walked back pretty quick when all mentally ill homeless they never jail get lit up like Christmas trees during an 'episode'.

drck1000

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2021, 01:14:06 PM »
Since all you older fakkas have an older heart, I guess I would be the guinea pig

Don't forget to ask your doctor if you're healthy enough for the blue pill too.
Quoting for OQE  :thumbsup:

aletheuo137

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2021, 01:22:48 PM »
Since all you older fakkas have an older heart, I guess I would be the guinea pig. 

Don't forget to ask your doctor if you're healthy enough for the blue pill too.
My son in the military sent a video of he blowing himself up! The reason for most of my grey hairs and stress lines!

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changemyoil66

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2021, 01:27:40 PM »
Quoting for OQE  :thumbsup:

1 HIFICO director posted a vid of himself getting OC"d. So I'm gonna assume tasing will be next.

drck1000

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2021, 01:34:03 PM »
1 HIFICO director posted a vid of himself getting OC"d. So I'm gonna assume tasing will be next.
Gonna be WAY more funny to see you getting tazed. . . just sayin'

 :rofl:

changemyoil66

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2021, 01:35:08 PM »
Gonna be WAY more funny to see you getting tazed. . . just sayin'

 :rofl:

It would activate the tourrettes. HEADDDSSS, HEADDDDSSS, HEADDDDSSS

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2021, 01:48:50 PM »
So the taser bill is not on Ige's veto list.

So effective Jan 1st is the ETA.

How you call gonna carry it? Open, concealled, IWB, AIWB, ankle, etc...
Are you sure about that date?

According to the text of the bill HB891, it becomes effective July 1. 2021.

Also, according to the Governor's official "intent to veto" release,

Quote
All measures listed below are subject to veto. Any measures passed by the
Hawai‘i State Legislature this session that are not on this list will become law with
or without my signature no later than July 6
. The measures on the Intent to Veto List
are deemed objectionable because of concerns about legality, practicality of
implementation and/or lack of transparency.

https://governor.hawaii.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Intent-to-Veto-LIST.docx
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

aletheuo137

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2021, 01:51:02 PM »
Indianna Jones: Why Did It Have to Be Snakes?



Very dangerous! You go first!

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changemyoil66

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2021, 01:51:15 PM »
Are you sure about that date?

According to the text of the bill HB891, it becomes effective July 1. 2021.

Also, according to the Governor's official "intent to veto" release,

https://governor.hawaii.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Intent-to-Veto-LIST.docx

I'm not sure, just what I was told.  I know HPD also testified they needed more time to get the proper forms ready for sellers.

Also IDK if someone could tase someone else in a training scenario. I don't remember if can or no can.  But I do know as written, if a trainer uses a TENS unit on someone else, that would be illegal.

6716J

Re: Tasers soon legal in HI
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2021, 01:58:37 PM »
So what is the final version of the Bill

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2021/bills/HB891_SD2_.HTM is what I got from the legislature website.

It states that we have to have a background check performed....
(f)  Before completing a sale, distribution, or other transfer of an electric gun, the licensee or an employee of the licensee shall conduct a criminal history background check of the recipient.  At minimum, the criminal history background check shall be a name-based search of the adult criminal conviction records maintained by the Hawaii criminal justice data center.  The licensee or employee of the licensee shall require the recipient to review a printed copy of the results of the background check.  After the review, the recipient shall sign and date a declaration.  The declaration shall be in the following form:  "I, (name of recipient), declare under penalty of law that the attached document accurately reflects my adult criminal conviction history in Hawaii.  I further declare that I do not have any convictions or charges pending against me that disqualify me from owning an electric gun.  I further declare under penalty of law that I am not disqualified from owning an electric gun."  The licensee or employee of the licensee shall witness the recipient sign the declaration and sign the declaration as a witness.  If the recipient is disqualified from owning an electric gun, or refuses or is unable to sign or make the declaration, the licensee shall immediately terminate the sale, distribution, or transfer.

The flip side is that it should be this easy to obtain a firearm. Just like in the majority of states.

Also what would be the effective date we could purchase in Hawaii? Is it July 1st or would it be Jan 1, 2022?
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