it's "transitory" (Read 5808 times)

Glasser

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2021, 09:14:09 AM »
You left out Altered States, but that was way before your time.

With the right mushrooms, you can make a concoction that taps into the genetic memory of your cells.  At least, it worked for William Hurt.   :rofl: :rofl:

You should read Lily and Leary. I was surprised how lucid and insightful both of those men are, their reputations as psychonaut mad men are highly over stated. Both are ignored geniuses. Leary especially had a lot to say about human evolution and the direction it was headed. Only now are folks catching up to stuff he was talking about 35-40 yrs ago.

Kuleana

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2021, 10:46:10 AM »
Travel to some other parts of the Pacific and you will quickly get an idea for what is the most likely future of Hawaii without empire money pouring in. Except we neglected most of our natural resources, polluted the rest, and a big chunk of our highest value tourist property and infrastructure is going under water. The best case scenario would be something like Fiji, which is still very poor compared with our standards.  On the other hand they will manage to eat relatively well during the coming shortages while we murder each other over ketchup packets.
There are many island nations that have been able to thrive, despite their island's geographical constraints.

Not all of them will achieve the success of the UK, for example, but favorable outcomes are indeed possible.

groveler

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2021, 11:03:34 AM »
There are many island nations that have been able to thrive, despite their island's geographical constraints.

Not all of them will achieve the success of the UK, for example, but favorable outcomes are indeed possible.
Hawaii can become filthy rich and still have US military protection - Legalize
gambling. Become USA's Macau.
 :stopjack:

Kuleana

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2021, 11:06:08 AM »
The system managed to paper over the 2008 crisis with fracking and other non-conventional sources, but all they ended up accomplishing was to prove that these methods are not self sustaining without the massive investment of speculative bubbles.

What we are facing is a stair step pattern of crashes and semi-recoveries known as demand destruction that will continue over the next few centuries, as Western Civilization winds down to a deindustrial dark age. 

Inflation is not just here to stay, it is the tip of a very large iceberg that cannot be avoided.
All the more reasons, I have said the US empire needs to begin a program of downsizing.

Internationally, purposely reducing its military forces geared for global projection to that of border projection would go a long way to free up funds for domestic purposes.

Domestically, let all states as well as legally/illegally held territories choose to go their own independent way, while those states, who wish to remain, establish the 2nd American Republic.  This is not to say that the reconstituted 2nd American Republic could not form another confederation with the other former states, of the 1st American Republic, who decided to be independent nations, of their own.

Confederation-based nation states are actually not bad at all and can be advantageous, given the unreconciled differences that exist, between the current states and its own residents, within the US empire.

Check them out.

ren

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2021, 11:06:17 AM »
Hawaii can become filthy rich and still have US military protection - Legalize
gambling. Become USA's Macau.
 :stopjack:

our "9th" island wont ever let that happen
Deeds Not Words

macsak

changemyoil66

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2021, 12:38:13 PM »
our "9th" island wont ever let that happen

HI people grumble for decades about not being able to gamble here.   A bill is finally presented and HI people say no need gambling.

Pakalolo bill also died.  Not like HI needs multiple sources of revenue right?  CO legalized MJ and the taxes from it was supposed to go toward the schools. In a few years, all the schools updated to where they need to be and they had excess money to spend.  Last I heard they were spending it on the homeless. 

This is the mentality of most of HI and why HI will continue to get worst.

ren

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #47 on: July 15, 2021, 12:42:02 PM »
HI people grumble for decades about not being able to gamble here.   A bill is finally presented and HI people say no need gambling.

Pakalolo bill also died.  Not like HI needs multiple sources of revenue right?  CO legalized MJ and the taxes from it was supposed to go toward the schools. In a few years, all the schools updated to where they need to be and they had excess money to spend.  Last I heard they were spending it on the homeless. 

This is the mentality of most of HI and why HI will continue to get worst.

I think we the People want gambling. Look at all the recent raids on gambling houses etc. We are held hostage by our politicians and their puppet strings from the "9th" island. Even saying that Las Vegas is the 9th island is propaganda.
Deeds Not Words

changemyoil66

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #48 on: July 15, 2021, 12:46:17 PM »
I think we the People want gambling. Look at all the recent raids on gambling houses etc. We are held hostage by our politicians and their puppet strings from the "9th" island. Even saying that Las Vegas is the 9th island is propaganda.

That's what comments have been leaning toward for years on FB news pages, that people want gambling.  But the comments on the gambling bill were mostly negative this time.  So either FB is editing comments or the attitude changed.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2021, 01:21:35 PM »
That's what comments have been leaning toward for years on FB news pages, that people want gambling.  But the comments on the gambling bill were mostly negative this time.  So either FB is editing comments or the attitude changed.

I have a dollar that says most of the people posting on FB against legalizing gambling are either too young to gamble in a casino, or they live on one of the islands that would become a gambling destination -- they don't want to be the place all the "degenerates" from Oahu, the mainland, and other countries travel just to gamble.

I'd imagine many of those opinions were fed to them by teachers -- unionized workers who support the opinions of the politicians their union supports.
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

macsak

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2021, 02:10:02 PM »

Glasser

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2021, 02:33:39 PM »
Solution to lower the impact of gambling on neighborhoods was to have Cruise Ships do it inside Hawaiian waters. If the State WAS smart they would own the boats and hire Vegas to run the day 2 day action.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2021, 02:45:57 PM »
Solution to lower the impact of gambling on neighborhoods was to have Cruise Ships do it inside Hawaiian waters. If the State WAS smart they would own the boats and hire Vegas to run the day 2 day action.

I thought the Jones Act prevented that for a majority of cruise ships.  The ship's hull would have to have been manufactured in the US to avoid the restrictions that require it to dock in a foreign port after docking in a US port.

"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

Glasser

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2021, 02:49:07 PM »
I thought the Jones Act prevented that for a majority of cruise ships.  The ship's hull would have to have been manufactured in the US to avoid the restrictions that require it to dock in a foreign port after docking in a US port.

The obvious solution would be a Sovereign Hawaiian Nation with its own dock. Kuleana can man the gangplank

omnigun

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2021, 02:56:31 PM »
Set up a gambling area on kahoolawe,  half the gamble is not to find military ordinance.  I would fully support lanai becoming a new gambling area,  right now its mostly private owned and resort area.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2021, 02:58:10 PM »
Set up a gambling area on kahoolawe,  half the gamble is not to find military ordinance.  I would fully support lanai becoming a new gambling area,  right now its mostly private owned and resort area.

Nice of you to volunteer to donate OTHER PEOPLE'S LAND where YOU DO NOT LIVE.

That's so .... Socialist of you!
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

omnigun

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #56 on: July 15, 2021, 03:10:41 PM »
Nice of you to volunteer to donate OTHER PEOPLE'S LAND where YOU DO NOT LIVE.

That's so .... Socialist of you!

Please show me where I said to donate land. 

Or perhaps I was saying make it legal to do so in certain areas....which are either government or private owned.  Unless you think Lanai's owner would decline a casino opportunity.

Glasser

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #57 on: July 15, 2021, 03:31:25 PM »
Apparently kids in school don't learn about land designations and federal historical registries anymore.






Flapp_Jackson

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2021, 03:36:55 PM »
Please show me where I said to donate land. 

Or perhaps I was saying make it legal to do so in certain areas....which are either government or private owned.  Unless you think Lanai's owner would decline a casino opportunity.

Please show where I said what you  said.

I said YOU are donating land you don't own.  It's so easy to give away other people's property, even if they are given a reasonable price for it. 

It's not your property, so to suggest that others should sell it is pure Socialism.

Stay in your own lane.  You can't even afford an EV, but here you are recommending what people owning potentially millions of dollars worth of real estate should do.

Just stop.
"How can you diagnose someone with an obsessive-compulsive disorder
and then act as though I had some choice about barging in?"
-- Melvin Udall

changemyoil66

Re: it's "transitory"
« Reply #59 on: July 15, 2021, 03:37:10 PM »
Please show me where I said to donate land. 

Or perhaps I was saying make it legal to do so in certain areas....which are either government or private owned.  Unless you think Lanai's owner would decline a casino opportunity.
Doesnt know how to use "please show me, focus, swooosh, etc..."

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