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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: Inspector on January 11, 2020, 09:08:36 AM
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I thought it might be interesting this early in the contest to try and guess or deduct who the Democrat nominee is going to be to run against Trump.
Some new facts for the primaries:
“Under the new rules for 2020, superdelegates will still be automatic delegates to the convention. But they will not have a vote on the first presidential ballot if the convention remains contested, which is a distinct possibility given the number of Democrats considering running.
Superdelegates would get to vote on any subsequent rounds of voting, though the Democratic nomination has been settled on the first ballot of every convention since the 1970s, when the modern system of primaries and caucuses was established.”
Current candidates in alphabetical order by last name:
Joe Biden
Pete Buttigieg
Amy Klobuchar
Bernie Sanders
Tom Steyer
Elizabeth Warren
There are more but I didn’t put their names in as I figured they won’t be in the race for long.
So the superdelegates will only be in play if a clear candidate is not nominated in the first round of voting. Which is far different from the 2016 nominations. I think that if they cannot vote a clear nominee in the first round then Joe Biden becomes the nominee as I think the super delegates will back him.
However, if a clear candidate is nominated in the first round of voting and the superdelegates are not voting then I think it will be Bernie Sanders over Joe Biden. Here are my thoughts. I’m thinking that by the time we get close to the nominations, we will be down to 2 maybe 3 candidates. The top three in my order is Joe Biden then Bernie Sanders then Elizabeth Warren. But I think Warren will bow out near the end. And with the new DNC rules I figure all of Warren’s delegates are going to support Bernie and that will be enough for Bernie to win the nomination over Biden.
There is no right or wrong to this. Let’s here your thoughts...
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I thought it might be interesting this early in the contest to try and guess or deduct who the Democrat nominee is going to be to run against Trump.
Some new facts for the primaries:
“Under the new rules for 2020, superdelegates will still be automatic delegates to the convention. But they will not have a vote on the first presidential ballot if the convention remains contested, which is a distinct possibility given the number of Democrats considering running.
Superdelegates would get to vote on any subsequent rounds of voting, though the Democratic nomination has been settled on the first ballot of every convention since the 1970s, when the modern system of primaries and caucuses was established.”
Current candidates in alphabetical order by last name:
Joe Biden
Pete Buttigieg
Amy Klobuchar
Bernie Sanders
Tom Steyer
Elizabeth Warren
There are more but I didn’t put their names in as I figured they won’t be in the race for long.
So the superdelegates will only be in play if a clear candidate is not nominated in the first round of voting. Which is far different from the 2016 nominations. I think that if they cannot vote a clear nominee in the first round then Joe Biden becomes the nominee as I think the super delegates will back him.
However, if a clear candidate is nominated in the first round of voting and the superdelegates are not voting then I think it will be Bernie Sanders over Joe Biden. Here are my thoughts. I’m thinking that by the time we get close to the nominations, we will be down to 2 maybe 3 candidates. The top three in my order is Joe Biden then Bernie Sanders then Elizabeth Warren. But I think Warren will bow out near the end. And with the new DNC rules I figure all of Warren’s delegates are going to support Bernie and that will be enough for Bernie to win the nomination over Biden.
There is no right or wrong to this. Let’s here your thoughts...
You forgot Bloomberg, the DINO or RINO, whatever suits
his need to be elected.
Never underestimate the stupidity of the Democrat voter.
Bloomberg can literally buy the nomination and he will.
He can spend twice, three times what others have and
not even dent his lifestyle.
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The Dems grabbed a handfull of darts and are throwing them all at the White House to see if any stick. :rofl:
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There is no right or wrong to this. Let’s here your thoughts...
Here here! 😝
My thoughts?
- Anybody but Fakeawarha
- I like Klobuchar out of them all if I had to choose one for my personably views/opinions
- 💩 on Biden
- Bernie scares me in many ways
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I think Crazy Joe Biden.
But I want Bernie just for the Debates and SNL skits.
Watching a debate between Trump and Bernie will amusing. (2 real life SNL characters going at it)
Watching a debate between Trump and Crazy Joe will be some shit slinging, knock down drag outs.
(My opinion)
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Bloomberg and Steyer are both rising in the polls. Bloomberg with a net worth of $54B is a dangerous contender.
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The nominee will be one of the current establishment members:
Biden
Warren
Sanders
I think Bernie might be in a tight race with Biden.
Bernie is recovering from a heart attack and was screwed over by Clinton and the DNC in 2016. There may be a "sympathy nomination" waiting for him. If the party agrees none of the candidates has a good chance of beating Trump, it costs them nothing to nominate Bernie as some sort of gesture.
Biden, the man who's actually crazy, appears the least crazy by comparison. He's the DNC favorite, I think, just from an electability viewpoint.
Warren's popularity is slipping, since there's really no difference between her positions and Bernie's. She has been caught lying the last few months many times, which means she's saying whatever she thinks she needs to say to win. Bernie actually believes the crazy policies he's proposing. If it's between these two, Bernie wins.
Biden has to survive the Hunter situation. Right now the IRS is looking into Hunter's finances and says he failed to pay about $160K of taxes owed. The baby mama is suing Hunter for support, and her lawyer is digging up Hunter's income records, too. If Hunter was breaking the law and involved in money laundering as some are saying, I can't see how Biden survives.
Between the 3, Biden has the best chance of being nominated -- if the Hunter situation doesn't bring him down. Timing is the key.
So, my pick AT THIS POINT IN TIME is Biden.
Of the top 3, none can beat Trump. Therefore, whoever they nominate will be Trump's punching bag for months. Can't wait for the show!! :rofl: :thumbsup: :popcorn:
https://youtu.be/sTZxp7Me-2c
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I think it'll be Biden or Warren
Either of whom Trump will win
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Bloomberg may take votes away from Biden leaving Sanders as the nominee.
Hopefully a lot of democrats will abstain in the general election.
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Biden and Warren would get their asses handed to them by Trump. Bernie would actually give Orange Man a run for his money, especially if he takes Tulsi on as his veep.
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Biden and Warren would get their asses handed to them by Trump. Bernie would actually give Orange Man a run for his money, especially if he takes Tulsi on as his veep.
I'm still wondering why Donald "Orange Man" Trump isn't being given the same MSM protection as Obama.
Doesn't "orange" qualify him as "a person of color?"
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What difference does it make who the nominee is?
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What difference does it make who the nominee is?
🤦🏻♂️
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What difference does it make who the nominee is?
It doesn’t make a difference. That’s not the point of this post. This is supposed to be a lighthearted and fun thread discussing and trying to predict the future. :stopjack:
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Biden and Warren would get their asses handed to them by Trump. Bernie would actually give Orange Man a run for his money, especially if he takes Tulsi on as his veep.
I completely agree except I don’t think Tulsi is progressive (read socialist) enough for Bernie. I don’t think Biden challenging Trump to a push-up contest or threatening to punch him in the face is a good rebuttal to Trumps policies. And Warren can’t get out from underneath being Pocahontas all of her life. While Biden and Warren being nothing more than shark bait for Trump would be fun to watch in a debate, I think Bernie’s misguided sincerity will come thru. But he still doesn’t stand a chance IMHO.
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I'm still wondering why Donald "Orange Man" Trump isn't being given the same MSM protection as Obama.
Doesn't "orange" qualify him as "a person of color?"
Orange is the new black, right? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Watching Varney this morning and they were discussing this subject as the next debate is tomorrow. They made a statement that sort of backs up my premise that Bernie is going to be the nominee (At least in his mind :rofl:). First, they were saying that Bernie’s campaign is starting to turn on Warren as they see Warren as the real threat, not Biden. But the big take away from their remarks is that if you combine support for Bernie and Warren together it far outpaces the support for Biden. If Warren stays in until the end, the nominee will be Biden. But if she drops anytime before the end, her delegates will probably switch their support to Bernie giving him the win.
In another statement this morning, Bloomberg was quoted as saying he will spend as much as a $1B dollars if he has to to defeat Trump. Personally, I don’t think he has the support. And I believe he will only pull his support from Biden supporters and other moderates. Which seems the moderates are no longer the majority in the Democrat party. If support for Warren and Bernie are any indication that the Progressive Left is in the majority of the party, then we will see Bernie like candidates more and more as Democrats.
As I am typing this Cory Booker just dropped out of the race. Sad. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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In the last few days, the Democrat Presidential field lost a few candidates:
1. Julian Castro (he's backing Warren on her campaign trail now)
2. Marianne Williamson (surprised that Conservatives treated her better than Liberals)
3. Sen. Cory "Spartacus" Booker
People dropping out before the first primary states vote in February. At least these candidates are able to say they ran in the year 2020. :rofl:
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In the last few days, the Democrat Presidential field lost a few candidates:
1. Julian Castro (he's backing Warren on her campaign trail now)
2. Marianne Williamson (surprised that Conservatives treated her better than Liberals)
3. Sen. Cory "Spartacus" Booker
People dropping out before the first primary states vote in February. At least these candidates are able to say they ran in the year 2020. :rofl:
It’s too bad I can’t stomach the democrat debates. I tried, I really really tried but I found myself yelling at the TV. I wonder how different the debates would be if Bloomberg was participating? I imagine he would pull support away from Biden and little if any from Warren/Bernie. I just don’t see him as a serious contender here.
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It’s too bad I can’t stomach the democrat debates. I tried, I really really tried but I found myself yelling at the TV. I wonder how different the debates would be if Bloomberg was participating? I imagine he would pull support away from Biden and little if any from Warren/Bernie. I just don’t see him as a serious contender here.
It'll be interesting after tomorrow night to see where the supporters of the drop-outs flock. I have a feeling the voters who like Castro, Booker and Williamson will lean toward Bernie. I can't see someone supporting them switching to Biden.
BTW, if Bernie is the nominee, and he picks Biden as his VP running mate, their merged names will be:
BERDEN
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It'll be interesting after tomorrow night to see where the supporters of the drop-outs flock. I have a feeling the voters who like Castro, Booker and Williamson will lean toward Bernie. I can't see someone supporting them switching to Biden.
BTW, if Bernie is the nominee, and he picks Biden as his VP running mate, their merged names will be:
BERDEN
The name is :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Creepy Berden. :shake: :shake: :shake:
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I know his chances aren't great but I find Andrew Yang interesting and much more sensible than most/all the other democrats. I hope he can manage to get it.
I don't like any of the front runners.... Biden is closest to the center but he is old and behaving oddly sometimes.
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I know his chances aren't great but I find Andrew Yang interesting and much more sensible than most/all the other democrats. I hope he can manage to get it.
I don't like any of the front runners.... Biden is closest to the center but he is old and behaving oddly sometimes.
The topic was not "Who do you want to be nominated."
[ why do I expect anything more? ]
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I know his chances aren't great but I find Andrew Yang interesting and much more sensible than most/all the other democrats. I hope he can manage to get it.
I don't like any of the front runners.... Biden is closest to the center but he is old and behaving oddly sometimes.
He isnt a career politician, thus not poisoned by politics. The problem is he is anti 2a, which is a major issue for me.
He actually has ideas to help our nation. They are not be good ideas, but compared to the others, he has a plan.
But its like picking what you wanna get hit in the nuts by. A bowling ball or a kettle bell. Both suck.
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I wonder if there's going to be another race to fill the VP slot for Biden and Sanders. They're both old with a good chance they could keel over during their presidency. It could explain why Gabbard is still in the race and hasn't berated either of them yet.
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I wonder if there's going to be another race to fill the VP slot for Biden and Sanders. They're both old with a good chance they could keel over during their presidency. It could explain why Gabbard is still in the race and hasn't berated either of them yet.
One of the reasons the debates are so cordial and you didn't hear the candidates going after each other (except for Tulsi) is because they don't want to burn the bridge that might lead to their being selected as a running mate.
I could see Bernie choosing Tulsi. She supported him in 2016, her anti-war views coincide with his, and her "demographic categories" would be more attractive to the far left over the "Old White Man" choosing her.
Since Bernie is the oldest candidate (he turned 78 in Sept 2019), and he just suffered a heart attack , the Bernie/Gabbard Presidential team could give the US our first female President. I have a dollar that says Bernie won't survive 8 years in office, which would make him 86 years old in Jan 2029. if he happens to make it until then, Tulsi, as the incumbent VP, would have a very good shot at being the presumptive nominee to set herself up to win the presidential election.
Lots of reasons he might pick her to run with him. Of course, the party has to want her, which is a much tougher sell. Tulsi doesn't seem to want to kneel before the Democrat demigods.
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It doesn’t make a difference. That’s not the point of this post. This is supposed to be a lighthearted and fun thread discussing and trying to predict the future. :stopjack:
I was being rhetorical but you answered my question. Seriously, the top contenders are busy arguing about what they said to each two years ago rather than talking about their foe's alleged lies. What a cluster fuck...
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I have a dollar that says Bernie won't survive 8 years in office, which would make him 86 years old in Jan 2029.
Don’t know about that, look at RBG. Worse thing about her is that
she has a lifetime appointment and won’t retire.
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I was being rhetorical but you answered my question. Seriously, the top contenders are busy arguing about what they said to each two years ago rather than talking about their foe's alleged lies. What a cluster fuck...
Are you telling me that they are a bunch of losers? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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I am actually disappointed in CNN for disclosing the argument between Bernie and Warren the other night. While I can’t think of two better targets for this to happen to, I do believe in respect. I really think CNN did this for ratings. They ate their own for this one. I feel that CNN should have respected them after the debate was over and not reveal this discussion. Doesn’t matter Dem or Rep, it shouldn’t happen.
Now if this argument happened during the debate, imagine the ratings that CNN would have gotten. Either way I enjoy reality TV.
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I am actually disappointed in CNN for disclosing the argument between Bernie and Warren the other night. While I can’t think of two better targets for this to happen to, I do believe in respect. I really think CNN did this for ratings. They ate their own for this one. I feel that CNN should have respected them after the debate was over and not reveal this discussion. Doesn’t matter Dem or Rep, it shouldn’t happen.
Now if this argument happened during the debate, imagine the ratings that CNN would have gotten. Either way I enjoy reality TV.
I think they TRIED to set up the altercation when they asked Bernie if he said what Warren claims he said, then immediately after his denial asked Warren how she felt about what Bernie said -- as if Bernie hadn't just denied the statement ever happened.
The moderator opened the door for one or the other to call the other a liar, but they didn't take the bait. Only after the debate ended did she claim he called her a liar. Looked more like she and CNN were both calling Bernie a liar to me.
They didn't say the word "liar" in the debate, but ignoring his denial was an implicit accusation.
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Are you telling me that they are a bunch of losers? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You might want to clarify to Capt Obvious level if that was rhetorical, or looking for a spectrum response. . .
:rofl:
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He isnt a career politician, thus not poisoned by politics. The problem is he is anti 2a, which is a major issue for me.
He actually has ideas to help our nation. They are not be good ideas, but compared to the others, he has a plan.
But its like picking what you wanna get hit in the nuts by. A bowling ball or a kettle bell. Both suck.
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I have been wondering his stance on guns but in all the interviews with him that I have been watching he hasn't mentioned anything about guns. Not expecting him to be great on guns but is there any democrat candidate who is not terrible on guns in this race?
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I have been wondering his stance on guns but in all the interviews with him that I have been watching he hasn't mentioned anything about guns. Not expecting him to be great on guns but is there any democrat candidate who is not terrible on guns in this race?
He is very anti2a like all the other dnc runners.
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He is very anti2a like all the other dnc runners.
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It is SO DIFFICULT to find where the candidates stand on issues.
If only they would make a website that had that info ....
https://www.yang2020.com/policies/gun-safety/
But we need to ban the most dangerous weapons that make mass shootings as deadly as they have become,
and address the other violence – particularly suicide – that is plaguing this country.
(https://i.imgur.com/sDhqZbH.png)
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My pick
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My pick
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At least he has most (not all) of his own teeth. That’s more than I can say of the current crop of nominees. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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At least he has most (not all) of his own teeth. That’s more than I can say of the current crop of nominees. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Having teef is one of your prerequisites? 😳
:rofl:
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Having teef is one of your prerequisites? 😳
:rofl:
Yes! Cuz that means they are my age or younger!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Yes! Cuz that means they are my age or younger!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Haha. That could just mean that they have excellent dentist(s). I wouldn't know since I don't know any good dentists ???
:rofl:
I mean I know my own dentist, but I still have all my teef. Well, except for my wisdoms.
Anyways. . . :stopjack:
:geekdanc:
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Haha. That could just mean that they have excellent dentist(s). I wouldn't know since I don't know any good dentists ???
:rofl:
I mean I know my own dentist, but I still have all my teef. Well, except for my wisdoms.
Anyways. . . :stopjack:
:geekdanc:
Well, I have an excellent Dentist here. Actually, the best one I have ever had here and the mainland. He told me about this one really really bad dentist over on the other side of the island......
:stopjack:
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Haha. That could just mean that they have excellent dentist(s). I wouldn't know since I don't know any good dentists ???
:rofl:
I mean I know my own dentist, but I still have all my teef. Well, except for my wisdoms.
Anyways. . . :stopjack:
:geekdanc:
I don't know any good dentists either
they not real doctors anyways...
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I don't know any good dentists either
they not real doctors anyways...
dentists make way more money.
(http://www.midweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/MW-OTM-082813-alannomura.jpg)
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dentists make way more money.
(http://www.midweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/MW-OTM-082813-alannomura.jpg)
smh
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smh
no ways, I wish I was a dentist.
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Well, I have an excellent Dentist here. Actually, the best one I have ever had here and the mainland. He told me about this one really really bad dentist over on the other side of the island......
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When I said "here", I meant on the forum. I have an excellent dentist. Even the "one really really bad dentist over on the other side of the island" said he's supposed to be pretty good. ;D
I don't know any good dentists either
they not real doctors anyways...
Just wannabes. . . :rofl:
Ok, seriously this time. :stopjack:
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Even the "one really really bad dentist over on the other side of the island" said he's supposed to be pretty good. ;D
And you believe him? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:stopjack:
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And you believe him? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:stopjack:
Not really. I just like to throw that poor dog a bone once in a while. . .
This is your thread, so let's continue to jack away. . . wait, that didn't come out right. . . :rofl:
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Not really. I just like to throw that poor dog a bone once in a while. . .
This is your thread, so let's continue to jack away. . . wait, that didn't come out right. . . :rofl:
Invite only? :stopjack:
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Not really. I just like to throw that poor dog a bone once in a while. . .
This is your thread, so let's continue to jack away. . . wait, that didn't come out right. . . :rofl:
Keep jacking to yourself! :shake: :shake: :shake:
:stopjack:
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Invite only? :stopjack:
Naw, c'mon....
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With Bernie and Warren being gone for a few weeks, Biden has a chance to take the lead. But all candidates are so shitty, I now doubt that the stoppage of campaigning will have any effect. Biden is still sniffing children.
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With Bernie and Warren being gone for a few weeks, Biden has a chance to take the lead. But all candidates are so shitty, I now doubt that the stoppage of campaigning will have any effect. Biden is still sniffing children.
Actually I think I might change my mind again. If they call witnesses in the trial Biden is a goner. He may be already. The only other choice the Dems have is Bloomberg. So if witnesses are called I think it benefits Bloomberg. If witnesses are not called then I think Biden is their choice still.
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Actually I think I might change my mind again. If they call witnesses in the trial Biden is a goner. He may be already. The only other choice the Dems have is Bloomberg. So if witnesses are called I think it benefits Bloomberg. If witnesses are not called then I think Biden is their choice still.
I don’t see how Biden is getting out of this situation. Regardless of what goes on in the Senate in the next week or so. I do however think things can certainly get worse. One barometer is what ABC covers. Tonight was all about HRC’s trashing Sanders, Lieawatha’s fight with Sanders, etc. Mostly distractions...
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I don’t see how Biden is getting out of this situation. Regardless of what goes on in the Senate in the next week or so. I do however think things can certainly get worse. One barometer is what ABC covers. Tonight was all about HRC’s trashing Sanders, Lieawatha’s fight with Sanders, etc. Mostly distractions...
I think the Democrats are completely blowing it here. They mentioned the names Biden and Bhurisma over 300 times in their 21 hours of testimony during their portion of the impeachment. If it is such a conspiracy theory, why even mention it at all? By mentioning it so much it opened the door to the Trump defense team to really get their point across that it is very relevant and not a conspiracy theory. Considering I believe that the DNC really wants Biden to win the nomination (with Bloomberg as a backup), they are causing Biden to drop a bit in the polls and allowing Bernie surge at the moment. Just keep mentioning Biden so many times in a negative way has gotta hurt.
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So tonight is the Iowa caucus. The polls have Bernie in the lead over Biden, Warren, Buttigieg, and Bloomberg. If the polls are close, Bernie will win. And I think this terrifies the DNC and the liberal left. I believe that the big donors in the DNC are not into his progressive and socialist far left politics. I believe the DNC sees Bernie as too radical, too far left and unelectable. I see Bernie as very electable with a strong following. But going against Trump I think Trump will easily wipe the floor with Bernie by hammering away at his socialist policies. Bernie comes across as sincere and believable and honest. He honestly believes in his policies unlike Warren who changes her policies as she goes along. I wouldn’t attack Bernie personally, except for his wealth and not practicing his socialist identity. I don’t think Bernie can win with his policies.
A few days ago the DNC changed their debate rules so Bloomberg can participate in the next debate. This occurred right after Bloomberg made a sizable donation to the DNC. Connected? I think so. So do a lot of other people. This occurred after the DNC declined to change the rules to keep hopefuls like Corey Booker in the running so they have some diversity amongst potentials. The best of the hypocrisy? If Biden flails and burns out then Bloomberg will be allowed to buy his way to the nomination. Isn’t this the party that rails against rich white men? Especially the one percenters like Bloomberg. Identity politics and the DNC in all its glorious failure.
I read somewhere this morning that 8 counties in Iowa just reported having more registered voters than there are available voting adults living in those counties. Coincidence? I doubt it. The game is rigged against Bernie on purpose. I would love to see if more votes come out of those counties than are qualified voters. We’ll see if Bernie wins tonight.
I think what will be even more interesting is what is going to happen to those delegates whose candidate doesn’t get enough votes to count? Those delegates have to go to one of the top candidates. Will they give their votes to Bernie? Biden? Warren? Will they split them evenly? We’ll see.
My prediction is despite the potential voting fraud and the influx of new money from Bloomberg, Bernie will win Iowa tonight. This will be a wake up call for the DNC. Look for more fraud and corruption and vote rigging against Bernie. As much as I abhor corruption it is going to be fun watching the Democrats corruption become exposed for all to see. I think Bernie has the makings of a lawsuit if enough of the corruption is exposed and he loses.
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So tonight is the Iowa caucus. The polls have Bernie in the lead over Biden, Warren, Buttigieg, and Bloomberg. If the polls are close, Bernie will win. And I think this terrifies the DNC and the liberal left. I believe that the big donors in the DNC are not into his progressive and socialist far left politics. I believe the DNC sees Bernie as too radical, too far left and unelectable. I see Bernie as very electable with a strong following. But going against Trump I think Trump will easily wipe the floor with Bernie by hammering away at his socialist policies. Bernie comes across as sincere and believable and honest. He honestly believes in his policies unlike Warren who changes her policies as she goes along. I wouldn’t attack Bernie personally, except for his wealth and not practicing his socialist identity. I don’t think Bernie can win with his policies.
A few days ago the DNC changed their debate rules so Bloomberg can participate in the next debate. This occurred right after Bloomberg made a sizable donation to the DNC. Connected? I think so. So do a lot of other people. This occurred after the DNC declined to change the rules to keep hopefuls like Corey Booker in the running so they have some diversity amongst potentials. The best of the hypocrisy? If Biden flails and burns out then Bloomberg will be allowed to buy his way to the nomination. Isn’t this the party that rails against rich white men? Especially the one percenters like Bloomberg. Identity politics and the DNC in all its glorious failure.
I read somewhere this morning that 8 counties in Iowa just reported having more registered voters than there are available voting adults living in those counties. Coincidence? I doubt it. The game is rigged against Bernie on purpose. I would love to see if more votes come out of those counties than are qualified voters. We’ll see if Bernie wins tonight.
I think what will be even more interesting is what is going to happen to those delegates whose candidate doesn’t get enough votes to count? Those delegates have to go to one of the top candidates. Will they give their votes to Bernie? Biden? Warren? Will they split them evenly? We’ll see.
My prediction is despite the potential voting fraud and the influx of new money from Bloomberg, Bernie will win Iowa tonight. This will be a wake up call for the DNC. Look for more fraud and corruption and vote rigging against Bernie. As much as I abhor corruption it is going to be fun watching the Democrats corruption become exposed for all to see. I think Bernie has the makings of a lawsuit if enough of the corruption is exposed and he loses.
Hypocrisy you say?
I think as the field thins, more crap like stuff you mentioned above will come out. . .
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A few days ago the DNC changed their debate rules so Bloomberg can participate in the next debate. This occurred right after Bloomberg made a sizable donation to the DNC. Connected? I think so. So do a lot of other people. This occurred after the DNC declined to change the rules to keep hopefuls like Corey Booker in the running so they have some diversity amongst potentials. The best of the hypocrisy? If Biden flails and burns out then Bloomberg will be allowed to buy his way to the nomination. Isn’t this the party that rails against rich white men? Especially the one percenters like Bloomberg. Identity politics and the DNC in all its glorious failure.
The only thing Democrats do consistently is whatever it takes to win.
They pander to every known (and a few made-up) groups, offering them some sort of special treatment. (Are you really that special if everyone else is special, too?)
They promise to punish the rich by taking from them and giving to YOU, no matter if their proposed policies and laws include you or not.
They terrify the elderly by saying everybody except them wants to take something away that the gov't is already giving you.
They tell you the reason you are not living a life like Trump enjoys is because someone besides you is causing it.
They tell us when they are not in power that "the other party" is evil and destructive. When they are in power, they tell us everything is fantastic -- even when it obviously isn't. If the true situation is noticed, they find another scapegoat to blame, such as the Republican majority keeping the Democrat president from succeeding.
The list goes on and on. Dems don't deal in the truth unless it helps them or hurts their enemies.
Hillary Clinton named the Republican Party as our biggest enemy. Republicans don't see the other parties as enemies -- only as political opponents.
That speaks volumes as to why Democrats use the tactics of calling Trump Hitler and a Nazi, racist, fascist, .... You don't hear the GOP members of Congress doing that to their opponents -- at least not in unison or as often as Dems do.
https://freebeacon.com/politics/clinton-doesnt-regret-republicans-enemies-terrible-things/
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Well, if you have not heard yet, the Dem impeachment clown show has overflowed into the Iowa Caucuses. Seems that they cannot produce the numbers they way they want to. So they won't produce them at all. At least not yet. They are blaming the app which they didn't test before this happened. Yet they are making no efforts to manually count everything. Makes you wonder how important this is to them if they all went home for the night instead of staying up and manually counting everything. My feeling is that the result were so far in Bernie's favor that they are trying to figure out a way to change them more towards Biden. But I also heard a rumor that Biden came in fourth. Not just fourth, but a distant fourth. Maybe Biden's numbers were so low that they figure it can't be right? :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil:
It looks like the clown show runneth over in Iowa. What's next? New Hampshire? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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In the mean time, Trump's approval rating, (as reported by CNN, surprisingly) is now at 49%, his highest ever
and 3 points higher than BO at his same time in office. Among Republicans only, his ratings is 92%. Trump is
going to be tough to beat.
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Seems like one issue was there are instances where the caucus chair didn’t have the app to upload the data (or it malfunctioned), so the chair had to collect data manually and call them in. The data was backed up by photos of the manual data sheets.
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In the mean time, Trump's approval rating, (as reported by CNN, surprisingly) is now at 49%, his highest ever
and 3 points higher than BO at his same time in office. Among Republicans only, his ratings is 92%. Trump is
going to be tough to beat.
Gallup Poll also shows Trumps approval among Independent voters at 42%. Up from 37% right before the impeachment started. That is tremendous as well as the 49% you reported.
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Iowa Dem party blames caucus fiasco on ‘coding issue,’ vows to release results in afternoon
DES MOINES, Iowa – The morning after a technical meltdown delayed the reporting of the Iowa caucus results – causing chaos in the political world -- the Iowa Democratic Party blamed the debacle on a “coding issue” in its reporting app and pledged to release the caucus results starting late Tuesday afternoon.
The party -- under the gun and facing the possibility that Iowa could lose its cherished half-century hold spot kicking off the presidential primary and caucus nominating calendar -- stressed Tuesday morning that the debacle “did not impact the ability of precinct chairs to report data accurately.” They claimed to have now fixed the issue.
“We have every indication that our systems were secure and there was not a cybersecurity intrusion. In preparation for the caucuses, our systems were tested by independent cybersecurity consultants,” Iowa Democratic Party, or IDP, chairman Troy Price spotlighted in a long-awaited statement.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/iowa-dem-party-blames-caucus-fiasco-on-coding-issue-vows-to-release-results-as-soon-as-possible (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/iowa-dem-party-blames-caucus-fiasco-on-coding-issue-vows-to-release-results-as-soon-as-possible)
That the IDP jumped to "cybersecurity" actually makes me questions more what happened. To me, that stunk of a distraction measure. . .
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Biden camp has 'real concerns' about Iowa caucus process
There are serious issues regarding the failure of the Iowa caucuses voting app that should deeply concern the entire American electorate and cast a cloud over the final results, said Biden deputy campaign manager Kate Bedingfield on Tuesday.
Bedingfield appeared on CNN's "New Day" to discuss a letter sent by Biden's campaign to the Iowa Democratic Party asking for a full explanation of their methods of quality control before the release the final numbers.
“You see in the letter we have real concerns about the integrity of the process," she said. "I think there were significant failures in the process last night that should give voters concern. You obviously had the app failure, the app that precinct captains were using to report in their results failed.
"You had the phone system where precinct captains, there were reports of them getting frustrated -- not being able to report out their results, hanging up," Bedingfield continued. "Then you have the presidential preference cards, which are essentially the paper trail for the app, which we already know failed."
https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-spox-has-concerns-about-iowa-caucus-process (https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-spox-has-concerns-about-iowa-caucus-process)
Biden :facepalm:
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Based on reports, the software app that failed to report caucus final numbers was written by a company called "Shadow", to which 2020 Dem candidate Pete Buttigieg contributed tens of thousands of dollars.
Presidential candidate Pete Buttigieg's campaign contributed money to the technological firm whose voting app contributed to
reporting delays in the Iowa caucuses.
Federal Election Commission filings reveal that Buttigieg's campaign gave tens of thousands of dollars to Shadow on July 23, 2019,
for "software rights and subscriptions."
Shadow, a technology company that has an investor in the Democratic digital nonprofit organization ACRONYM, was also paid $60,000
over two installments by the Iowa Democratic Party to build an app to help make caucus voting easier and faster for precinct volunteers.
Filings also reveal that the Nevada Democratic Party paid Shadow $58,000 for "website development."
Another glaring example of the failures tied to Democrats. Need I remind everyone of the spectacular ACA Obamacare website launch? And the subsequent relaunch 6 months later? :wacko:
Lots of conspiracy theories out there that Buttigieg was responsible for the "intentional problems" with the app. :tinfoil:
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Damn Iowa just had the most beta coin toss. DNC trying to rig another election.
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Based on reports, the software app that failed to report caucus final numbers was written by a company called "Shadow", to which 2020 Dem candidate Pete Buttigieg contributed tens of thousands of dollars.
Another glaring example of the failures tied to Democrats. Need I remind everyone of the spectacular ACA Obamacare website launch? And the subsequent relaunch 6 months later? :wacko:
Lots of conspiracy theories out there that Buttigieg was responsible for the "intentional problems" with the app. :tinfoil:
Now it makes more sense why Buttigieg is claiming victory in Iowa. . . :hmm:
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Obviously, it was Russian interference.
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Obviously, it was Russian interference.
We know the Russians interfered, and that it was the DNC & Hillary who paid for it. Same as in Iowa 2020, I'm sure.
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After the Iowa caucuses, and the results were delayed so long, all the candidates showed 0% each -- with the 4 top-polling candidates all claiming victory!!
I guess this shows the Democrats have become Socialists -- everyone got the same thing: a goose egg!
Equal outcome sucks when the outcome is "not good".
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What a clown show the Iowa caucus has turned out to be. After the app failed then the phones failed. The phone system was their backup plan and it failed. Does anyone really believe this? Does anyone really believe the Democrats are capable of running this country if they can’t even count a few votes? They can do a complete manual count in less than 24 hours in a national election. But they can’t count a few votes in 2 days? This is due to the civil war going on inside of the party. They can’t on who to make the winner of the Iowa caucus. All they know if they can’t make Bernie the winner. There is still only 71% of the votes reported.
What surprised me is they made Buttigieg the winner so far. I guess if they want to keep Sanders and Warren from winning and Biden’s showing was so miserable that Buttigieg is the lesser of all evils. What the Democrats are even more afraid of is Warren dropping out because her supporters will switch to Bernie giving him a major majority.
The biggest problem is they couldn’t give Bloomberg the win because he received zero votes. So they have to give them to someone other than Bernie and Warren.
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What a clown show the Iowa caucus has turned out to be. After the app failed then the phones failed. The phone system was their backup plan and it failed. Does anyone really believe this? Does anyone really believe the Democrats are capable of running this country if they can’t even count a few votes? They can do a complete manual count in less than 24 hours in a national election. But they can’t count a few votes in 2 days? This is due to the civil war going on inside of the party. They can’t on who to make the winner of the Iowa caucus. All they know if they can’t make Bernie the winner. There is still only 71% of the votes reported.
What surprised me is they made Buttigieg the winner so far. I guess if they want to keep Sanders and Warren from winning and Biden’s showing was so miserable that Buttigieg is the lesser of all evils. What the Democrats are even more afraid of is Warren dropping out because her supporters will switch to Bernie giving him a major majority.
The biggest problem is they couldn’t give Bloomberg the win because he received zero votes. So they have to give them to someone other than Bernie and Warren.
DNC got hacked.
DNC emails were posted to WikiLeaks.
Former DNC chair Li'l Debbie W-S and many other Dim Congress members hired Pakistani criminals at higher-than-customary contractor rates to do IT administration on their government computers.
Senator Feinstein hired a Chinese SPY to be her driver for 20 years.
Hillary Clinton destroyed electronic devices and deleted 33,000+ emails, stored very highly classified information on illegal servers, violated record-keeping laws, and didn't understand what "wiping a computer drive" meant.
Barack Obama couldn't properly oversee the website that was the public face of his most ambitious achievement which cost a billion dollars and was delayed another 6 months after failing upon initial programs start.
The "Cars for Clunkers" program under Obama was just as poorly executed, taking some dealers 6 hours to enter and submit ONE contract.
Benghazi was 100% preventable.
Bill Clinton had several chances to stop 911, including taking out Bin Laden, and chose not to.
And these are the people who say they have the answers to Climate Change, Universal Health Care, Open Borders, Illegal Alien Amnesty, sanctuary cities, gun control, mental health, illegal drug overdoes and addiction, fixing the VA, ending the wars in the Middle East, etc, etc, etc
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE GIVEN THE POWER TO RUN (RUIN) OUR LIVES.
They want to
kill fracking (and our energy independence),
over-tax anyone who has the capital to create jobs and innovative ideas (which would give rise to calls for "REAL Socialism", since it'll look like capitalism had failed),
take over the entire healthcare industry (1/6th of the economy),
tear down all border barriers,
continue regime change wars around the world (look at the reactions every time Trump starts to withdraw troops anywhere),
and so on.
I don't care who gets the nomination. After the Iowa caucus showed yet another DNC failure -- and in grand fashion -- nobody should trust a Democrat with running a lemonade stand, let alone the entire country! :shake:
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what a wonderful world we live in...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pete-buttigeg-says-being-gay-helps-him-relate-to-the-black-struggle-some-reject-that-notion/2019/11/27/a29b48ec-113a-11ea-b0fc-62cc38411ebb_story.html
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What a clown show the Iowa caucus has turned out to be. After the app failed then the phones failed. The phone system was their backup plan and it failed. Does anyone really believe this? Does anyone really believe the Democrats are capable of running this country if they can’t even count a few votes? They can do a complete manual count in less than 24 hours in a national election. But they can’t count a few votes in 2 days? This is due to the civil war going on inside of the party. They can’t on who to make the winner of the Iowa caucus. All they know if they can’t make Bernie the winner. There is still only 71% of the votes reported.
What surprised me is they made Buttigieg the winner so far. I guess if they want to keep Sanders and Warren from winning and Biden’s showing was so miserable that Buttigieg is the lesser of all evils. What the Democrats are even more afraid of is Warren dropping out because her supporters will switch to Bernie giving him a major majority.
The biggest problem is they couldn’t give Bloomberg the win because he received zero votes. So they have to give them to someone other than Bernie and Warren.
He won by a beta coin flip.
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He won by a beta coin flip.
That's gay!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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That's gay!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Your a "Gay-cist"
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Your a "Gay-cist"
Waaaaaaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaaaaa-cist!
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Looking at one odds website today, it gave Trump a 59.99% chance of being re-elected. Next highest was Bernie with a 16.7% chance of being the next President. How they figure these odds is way beyond my pay grade.
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Looking at one odds website today, it gave Trump a 59.99% chance of being re-elected. Next highest was Bernie with a 16.7% chance of being the next President. How they figure these odds is way beyond my pay grade.
Trump will probably win. But I think Bernie could give him a run for his money tho.
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Trump will probably win. But I think Bernie could give him the entire country a run for his our money tho.[ ... literally :crazy: ]
Fixed it
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Fixed it
:rofl: Thanks!
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So far in New Hampshire it is Bernie and Buttigieg too close to call tho Bernie does have a 2% lead. The surprise is that Klobuchar is up to 3rd place with almost 20% of the vote. She has a little momentum going. If she can fund raise off of that she might have a chance of taking 2nd away from Buttigieg. I never really considered her a possibility. She is electable in my opinion. The other surprise is Warren is in 4th down below 10%. I expected her to stay in the 3rd place slot.
BTW, Bernie is now refusing to release his medical records. Hmmmmm, something up with that?
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So far in New Hampshire it is Bernie and Buttigieg too close to call tho Bernie does have a 2% lead. The surprise is that Klobuchar is up to 3rd place with almost 20% of the vote. She has a little momentum going. If she can fund raise off of that she might have a chance of taking 2nd away from Buttigieg. I never really considered her a possibility. She is electable in my opinion. The other surprise is Warren is in 4th down below 10%. I expected her to stay in the 3rd place slot.
BTW, Bernie is now refusing to release his medical records. Hmmmmm, something up with that?
I actually like Klobuchar, but of course that's relative. . .
NPR was going on and on about how things are shaping up. Bernie with momentum (for now) and rest failing, or flailing, to coalesce.
Then there's Bloomberg gearing up and then his "stop and frisk" video. Inskeep was actually quite hostile to Bloomberg's rep no NPR this morning. Not quite to the level of how he usually treats folks from Trump's camp, but still noticeably hostile.
Also interesting Sanders calling out Trump for dividing the nation. As if Obama didn't do a great job of that himself. Reminds me of a Billy Joel song. . .
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I actually like Klobuchar, but of course that's relative. . .
Klobuchar is a relative? But she's white. i know - WAYCIST! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Also interesting Sanders calling out Trump for dividing the nation. As if Obama didn't do a great job of that himself. Reminds me of a Billy Joel song. . .
The polls show differently.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/06/president_trumps_state_of_the_union_for_minorities_142329.html
"Minority communities are aware of what’s happening – and under whose leadership. A Gallup poll released this week reveals 49% approval from minorities for the president’s handling of the economy. This survey echoed a January Fox News poll that reported 52% economic approval for Trump among Hispanics."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/black-voter-support-for-trump-at-highest-levels-could-seal-2020-win
"A growing number of polls show that President Trump is gaining the support of black voters above what any Republican president has ever received. Both Emerson Polling and Rasmussen Reports have it at about 34%, a stunning number.
And a new Zogby Analytics survey found that African American support is at the “highest levels of the year,” driven by a strong economy, historically low black unemployment, and Trump’s agenda to support minority small businesses, historically black colleges and universities, and passage of criminal justice reform.
“Not surprisingly, all African Americans do not hate Trump!” pollster Jonathan Zogby said in sharing his data with us."
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Bloomberg is going to buy the Demonic nomination.
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Bernie and Booty should gang
bang up on tRUmP and go take him down
(https://i.imgflip.com/3p03gi.jpg)
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Klobuchar is a relative? But she's white. i know - WAYCIST! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl:
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Biden: I'm the most electable candidate. I'm the only Democrat candidate that can beat Trump.
Also Biden: "Mickey Mouse could run against Trump and have a shot."
Joe just shot down his main, and perhaps only, campaign talking point. :thumbsup: :rofl:
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I would say of all the crappy DNC people running, Yang was the most sensible. Didn't really get into it with the politics of Trump (the name calling, racist this, sexist that, blah blah) compared to the others. He actually has ideas, they're not very good ones, but at least he has a plan. When asking Warren or Bernie who to fix XYZ, no direct answers.
Too bad he's out now.
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Bernie and Booty should gang bang up on tRUmP and go take him down
(https://i.imgflip.com/3p03gi.jpg)
Word on the street is Butti's military career isn't all that they're promoting it to be. He was fast tracked to become an officer (book work only). Then when deployed, he had way too much down time compared to everyone else.
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Word on the street is Butti's military career isn't all that they're promoting it to be. He was fast tracked to become an officer (book work only). Then when deployed, he had way too much down time compared to everyone else.
he was a clerk and drove around the CO
sounds like he was "Radar" O'Reilly
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Bernie now the national front runner. I think Biden is pau. Tulsi should get out and stop wasting money.
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1) Bernie now the national front runner. 2) I think Biden is pau. 3) Tulsi should get out and stop wasting money.
1) Unfortunately yeah and I think it will be so for a while unless the field things, and quickly. . .
2) I think he's certainly on the ropes, but I think he'll make a comeback before ultimately falling out. He'll be a distraction that effectively helps Sanders though.
3) Didn't realize she was still even "in it".
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almost everyone is predicting that no single Dem candidate will win enough delegates to win the nomination ahead of the convention. That means a brokered convention.
If you thought this was a clown show already, just wait until the Bernie bros start acting up because the DNC tries to steal the nomination from him again. :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Bernie now the national front runner. I think Biden is pau. Tulsi should get out and stop wasting money.
The DNC wants Bernie and Buttigieg to to remain close throughout the process. I am sticking with my theory that the DNC does not want Bernie nor Buttigieg to be clear winners so their super delegates can decide the winner which will probably be Bloomberg. However, with Klobuchar having some momentum they might throw all their delegates to her making her the winner if she is still in third place at the end.
Biden is Pau, Warren is Pau, Tulsi never had a chance. She received only 2.9% of the vote in NH. The DNC only wants people who have a chance (Bernie, Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Bloomberg) to hang in until the DNC decides who they want as their nominee with their super delegates (Bloomberg or Klobuchar). I think Trump is right. They are going to fuck poor Bernie over when all is said and done.
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I just read that Warren pulled out of South Carolina and will concentrate on Nevada. That’s bad news for her campaign. That means they already concede SC and they want to use their money in Nevada. She won’t do well in Nevada either. I expect she will probably give up right after Nevada. And I expect that at least 50% of her supporters will support Bernie if not a higher number.
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I just read that Warren pulled out of South Carolina and will concentrate on Nevada. That’s bad news for her campaign. That means they already concede SC and they want to use their money in Nevada. She won’t do well in Nevada either. I expect she will probably give up right after Nevada. And I expect that at least 50% of her supporters will support Bernie if not a higher number.
I guess Warren has gas money now -- since the broke college girl gave her $3 from her bank account with a $6 balance! :rofl:
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There is also Bloomberg who bought his way in and throwing around gobs of ad money. And a brokered convention also raises the possibility of Zombie Hillary raised from the dead to rescue the party.
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Tulsi is running for VP.
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I guess Warren has gas money now -- since the broke college girl gave her $3 from her bank account with a $6 balance! :rofl:
Yeah, I heard that audio yesterday. What a scumbag she is. Why didn't she hand the college girl a $20 bill and tell her she can eat for a day. That's playing to ones base. But she took the 3 bucks! Selfish, self centered, narcissistic. Sound like the fish eye guy? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Butti pic circulating:
There's a pic of him apparently in Iraw sitting /posing for the camera on some rugs. Most likely outside the wire. He has no weapon or body armor on . No name tape. So either he's SF or some other explanation for the pic is needed,.
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There is also Bloomberg who bought his way in and throwing around gobs of ad money. And a brokered convention also raises the possibility of Zombie Hillary raised from the dead to rescue the party.
Dunno what's worse. Listening to Bloomberg speak, or Bernie. . .
Bloomberg def adds an interesting dynamic, to both sides. I do think he probably will get under Trump's skin the most, but I also think he'll end up causing a lot more division on the D side. Time will tell. Overall hate the circus that continues in politics. :grrr:
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Dunno what's worse. Listening to Bloomberg speak, or Bernie. . .
Bloomberg def adds an interesting dynamic, to both sides. I do think he probably will get under Trump's skin the most, but I also think he'll end up causing a lot more division on the D side. Time will tell. Overall hate the circus that continues in politics. :grrr:
It's funny cause people who support him don't realize that NYC has a huge crime problem which he didn't help to solve, higher taxes, and high cost of living. But yes, vote for me because I oppose the 2a and Trump.
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There are some interesting things going on in the Democrat Party. First, almost every Democrat who is up for election this year is worried that Bernie is going to be the nominee. Some are saying privately and some publicly that having Bernie as the nominee will almost for sure make it so the Democrats lose the House and they would have no chance of winning back the Senate. They are saying the up and down-ballot carnage is real and worrisome. Some even have said that they don’t want Bernie to come stump for them due to the stigma that Bernie brings with him, Socialist. Red state, blue state and purple state Democrats are worried about this stigma Bernie brings with him. They see him as hurting their chances of winning.
Also, one of Nevada’s most powerful and influential union (Culinary Workers Union) declined to endorse a candidate. They even went as far as to tell their members not to vote for Bernie in the primary and if he becomes the nominee. They fear his Medicare for All will take away their private insurance and all the union dues that help pay for their private insurance.
Yeah, Bernie’s gonna get fucked. I just hope they use a little boy butter to ease Bernie’s pain. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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There are some interesting things going on in the Democrat Party. First, almost every Democrat who is up for election this year is worried that Bernie is going to be the nominee. Some are saying privately and some publicly that having Bernie as the nominee will almost for sure make it so the Democrats lose the House and they would have no chance of winning back the Senate. They are saying the up and down-ballot carnage is real and worrisome. Some even have said that they don’t want Bernie to come stump for them due to the stigma that Bernie brings with him, Socialist. Red state, blue state and purple state Democrats are worried about this stigma Bernie brings with him. They see him as hurting their chances of winning.
Also, one of Nevada’s most powerful and influential union (Culinary Workers Union) declined to endorse a candidate. They even went as far as to tell their members not to vote for Bernie in the primary and if he becomes the nominee. They fear his Medicare for All will take away their private insurance and all the union dues that help pay for their private insurance.
Yeah, Bernie’s gonna get fucked. I just hope they use a little boy butter to ease Bernie’s pain. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
This is what happens when an Independent who doesn't always caucus with the Dems campaigns for the DNC nomination.
No matter what else the Dems think of Bernie, he's still an interloper and a Socialist. He's only running as a Dem because he'd have zero chance as an Independent.
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This is what happens when an Independent who doesn't always caucus with the Dems campaigns for the DNC nomination.
No matter what else the Dems think of Bernie, he's still an interloper and a Socialist. He's only running as a Dem because he'd have zero chance as an Independent.
If he did run as an independent, that would seal it for trump.
I'm waiting for the fake Libertarian to show up and steal Republican votes
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If he did run as an independent, that would seal it for trump.
I'm waiting for the fake Libertarian to show up and steal Republican votes
I thought Tulsi was the "3rd Party Spoiler backed by Putin?"
So says Hildabeast! :rofl:
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If he did run as an independent, that would seal it for trump.
I'm waiting for the fake Libertarian to show up and steal Republican votes
Yes, this has happened waaaaay too often to not be a RINO plant being paid for by the DNC. Only I think the Dems are worried that if they don’t give Bernie the nomination he will run as an Independent and will take away as much as 25% of the Dems votes for president. It’s bad enough the Dems are going to lose again in 2020. But they will lose even bigger if Bernie runs as an Independent.
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Photo op, he had to probably borrow the rifle.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200214/6685a7ac44dfb2a0b0f3081df0bf1b4c.jpg)
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So I guess Bloomberg was able to buy his way into the Democrat Debates tomorrow. In the national poll, he is in second place at 19% already but Bernie is surging at 31%.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/democratic_nomination_polls/
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So I guess Bloomberg was able to buy his way into the Democrat Debates tomorrow. In the national poll, he is in second place at 19% already but Bernie is surging at 31%.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/democratic_nomination_polls/
Bloomberg has a chance at defeating Trump, Bernie does not.
If Bloomberg wins the primaries, hopefully the Dem party will screwover Bernie again and his voters don't show up at the polls....again.
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So I guess Bloomberg was able to buy his way into the Democrat Debates tomorrow. In the national poll, he is in second place at 19% already but Bernie is surging at 31%.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/democratic_nomination_polls/
Have been seeing a LOT more commercials for "Blumberg". It's strange because I rarely watch live TV so usually don't see many commercials.
That Hawaii is such a blue state aside, I noticed that a lot of Blumberg's message seems to be about Obama's support and sadly that alone will garner a lot of support from Hawaii residents. . .
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Have been seeing a LOT more commercials for "Blumberg". It's strange because I rarely watch live TV so usually don't see many commercials.
That Hawaii is such a blue state aside, I noticed that a lot of Blumberg's message seems to be about Obama's support and sadly that alone will garner a lot of support from Hawaii residents. . .
He's trying to buy his way in. A lot of people don't realize that NYC is messed up. Crime, taxes, violation of 4th amendment, etc...All they see is "I oppose Trump".
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Someone told me today that he heard Bloomberg bought ALL the available advertising spots on TV in certain markets so the other candidates are shut out. A $54 billion personal fortune can buy you a political party nomination.
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Someone told me today that he heard Bloomberg bought ALL the available advertising spots on TV in certain markets so the other candidates are shut out. A $54 billion personal fortune can buy you a political party nomination.
But, Democrats run on getting money out of politics every single election cycle.
Oh, wait. The DNC IS NOW THE PARTY OF THE BIG MONEY DONORS.
How Democrats lost the high ground on money in politics
Years of cultivating Wall Street and wealthy political donors left Democrats exposed to
Trump's anti-establishment message.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/14/13535716/democrats-hillary-clinton-corruption
If you believe power corrupts, think about how much power someone like Bloomerg has bought over the years.
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Based on my previous bad predictions I am not going to Vegas anytime soon. :rofl:
It looks like tonight’s debate is going to look like Bernie first and Bloomberg second. I don’t think Mini Mike is going to have a good night tonight. He has a lot of skeletons in his closet and Bernie would do well to expose a few.
Two news items I heard yesterday. Bloomberg has bought out all TV advertising and maybe radio in the future caucus/primary states. literally blocking out all his rivals. Second big news item is:
Bloomberg’s ‘mercenaries’: Billionaire Dem funding network of climate lawyers inside state AG offices
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bloomberg-network-climate-lawyers-ag
Can you say Oligarch?
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Bloomberg should divest before running for office. Then his staffers can write whatever they want about him.
Cec Heftel divested KGMB radio and TV in 1976 before running for congress.
Rick Blangiardi left HNN a few weeks ago before running for mayor.
Letting Bloomberg run all those media outlets WHILE running for office is absurd.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/bloomberg-the-news-company-begins-to-ponder-how-to-cover-bloomberg-the-would-be-candidate/2019/11/11/94a5c724-0282-11ea-8501-2a7123a38c58_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/bloomberg-news-will-avoid-investigating-mike-bloomberg-during-his-presidential-campaign/2019/11/24/3314962a-0edf-11ea-b0fc-62cc38411ebb_story.html
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Bloomberg should divest before running for office. Then his staffers can write whatever they want about him.
Cec Heftel divested KGMB radio and TV in 1976 before running for congress.
Rick Blangiardi left HNN a few weeks ago before running for mayor.
Letting Bloomberg run all those media outlets WHILE running for office is absurd.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/bloomberg-the-news-company-begins-to-ponder-how-to-cover-bloomberg-the-would-be-candidate/2019/11/11/94a5c724-0282-11ea-8501-2a7123a38c58_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/bloomberg-news-will-avoid-investigating-mike-bloomberg-during-his-presidential-campaign/2019/11/24/3314962a-0edf-11ea-b0fc-62cc38411ebb_story.html
I agree. I see a definite conflict of interest. Especially when he orders his staff not to investigate him. Pretty cut and dried IMHO.
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I agree. I see a definite conflict of interest. Especially when he orders his staff not to investigate him. Pretty cut and dried IMHO.
Nah. He's super honest and honorable. Hey, Obama is backing him, so he'd got to be a gud guy, right?!
:shake:
:rofl:
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Nah. He's super honest and honorable. Hey, Obama is backing him, so he'd got to be a gud guy, right?!
:shake:
:rofl:
Satire noted. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Bloomberg promised to back whoever the nominee is. If he's not selected, he's still planning to spend Spend SPEND to beat Trump.
If I were still in the Primary race, I'd be pulling out all stops to win. How many times does any candidate in the General election have a multi-billionaire promising to write their campaign a blank check?
His promise might be his own undoing if it motivates another candidate to work harder.
Of course, if another candidate wins by mud-slinging in Mini Mike's direction, it could be a tense campaign with Bloomberg having to fund the mud-slinger. :rofl:
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l would like to see the reaction on the Gen Elec Night if Trump win both the Electorial and popular votes.
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l would like to see the reaction on the Gen Elec Night if Trump win both the Electorial and popular votes.
It'll never happen. DNC will cheat way too much for any Republican to ever win another popular vote.
When electoral college goes, the USA is done.
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Anyone watch the debate today? I watched the last 75 min of it. Seemed like all are losers. Biden promised gun control and Bloomberg was at a loss for words at times.
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Anyone watch the debate today? I watched the last 75 min of it. Seemed like all are losers. Biden promised gun control and Bloomberg was at a loss for words at times.
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It was hilarious to watch them trying to kill each other while chanting the need to come together in order to beat Trump.
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It was hilarious to watch them trying to kill each other while chanting the need to come together in order to beat Trump.
I was looking at the highlights from a POLITICO video to see which one was going to stand back and hope for a VP invitation.
From what I saw, Mini Mike was the punching bag for all, while Biden was left pretty much alone by everyone except Bloomberg.
Warren went after everybody. I think she's figured out a VP pick is not in her immediate future, so picking fights with the entire field only attempts to help her in the polling.
Even when Biden tried to punch back at Bloomberg, between his stammering and dumb insults, he still looked weak. Bloomberg was also weak, but better than Biden.
They all piled onto the "He's buying this nomination!" bandwagon, and Bllomberg had nothing to counter with. After Bernie blasted him for the immorality of being so much richer than so many others, the moderator (Todd?) asked Bloomberg if he felt he should have the amount of wealth he does. You could see the wheels turning, and Bloomberg finally said, "Yes, I do. I worked hard. And I'm giving alot of it away to the DNC and many others." Basically his answer was, he's using his vast fortune to influence our elections and shape the nation as he wants it to be -- because he can -- not because he has the best ideas.
As I said before, Bloomberg promised to support whoever wins the nomination. After tonight, he just might be reconsidering the dollar amount of his support.
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I have been having to deal with my wife’s issues and with selling our house so I had to miss them last night. And I have not had the chance to watch any vids of the good stuff yet. I’m looking forward to seeing Bloomberg getting his ass handed to him.
I did see Bernie get attacked pretty good by Bloomberg, tho. Being rich and having 3 houses. Bernie came back to Bloomberg with where he lives. Kinda weak comeback but still I love the fireworks.
My opinion, a bunch of millionaires bashing a billionaire for being too rich is just too funny. All of these people have more money than most of us will ever see in our lifetime. I don’t begrudge them being rich. I am pissed at them for thinking they speak for me when they attack their own kind. I don’t see much of a difference between being millionaire rich and billionaire rich. Just a lifestyle difference. Another thought I have is when all of these people have reached a point where they no longer have to work because of how rich they are. And all of them are that rich IMHO. Why are they seeking the most powerful job in the world? Is it power and money? Or is it to make a difference in this world? I’ll never know for sure because I doubt any of them will ever become president.
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When electoral college goes, the USA is done.
Hence their frantic push for open borders..................
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The debates were brutal for Mini Mike. All I can say is WOW! No love for a billionaire.
It seems like Mini Mike is trying for a brokered convention where he will have a good chance of getting a bunch of super delegates. Enough to take the nomination away from Bernie, who is the odds on favorite? It seems like that is where we might be heading.
Who knew Mini Mike was such an asshole? Seems like a bigger asshole than Trump. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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The debates were brutal for Mini Mike. All I can say is WOW! No love for a billionaire.
It seems like Mini Mike is trying for a brokered convention where he will have a good chance of getting a bunch of super delegates. Enough to take the nomination away from Bernie, who is the odds on favorite? It seems like that is where we might be heading.
Who knew Mini Mike was such an asshole? Seems like a bigger asshole than Trump. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
On TV, Trump is an asshole, but everyone who has met him in person is amazed that his personality is very different from his TV personality. Can't say the same for Bloom.
One of my favs is when his limo got stuck on the side of the road, a couple stopped to help. He then paid off their mortgage. He also was at ground zero helping how he could, not by his manpower, but financially.
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On TV, Trump is an asshole, but everyone who has met him in person is amazed that his personality is very different from his TV personality. Can't say the same for Bloom.
One of my favs is when his limo got stuck on the side of the road, a couple stopped to help. He then paid off their mortgage. He also was at ground zero helping how he could, not by his manpower, but financially.
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You don't get to be president of the United States by being an asshole.
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I wouldn't say he's an asshole. Just straightforward and blunt.
I'll take a "tell it like it is" over an ass kisser any day of the week and twice on Sunday
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Bernie sweeps Nevada Primary. He is now in a definite lead in the Dem race.
MSM melting down, because they absolutely do not want Sanders to win the nomination -- again!
It'll be entertaining to see how the party tries to steal a second nomination from Bernie.
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Wow! Bernie 46% with Biden at not so close second at 19.6%. Overall I’m surprised at the spread in Nevada, but also interesting how things change as candidates fall off, or continue to hold out for hope.
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The 3rd place and below are hanging on because they know the DNC doesn't want Bernie. At the convention even the pledged delegates can vote for anyone they want after the first vote if there is no clear winner. Bernie is not going to be the nominee if the DNC has their way.
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The 3rd place and below are hanging on because they know the DNC doesn't want Bernie. At the convention even the pledged delegates can vote for anyone they want after the first vote if there is no clear winner. Bernie is not going to be the nominee if the DNC has their way.
Bernie can be bought. Although Bloomberg had a terrible performance he brought out the fact that Bernie has 3 homes and is a miilionaire. Bernie tried to rebut that but c'mon man...how many people of the working class have a summer home?
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Bernie can be bought. Although Bloomberg had a terrible performance he brought out the fact that Bernie has 3 homes and is a miilionaire. Bernie tried to rebut that but c'mon man...how many people of the working class have a summer home?
Correction, that third one is not a "home"... "Like thousands of other Vermonters I have a summer CAMP".
And I liked Bloomberg's response when Bernie first said "Well, I work in Washington..." to which Bloomberg said "That's the first problem...".
The "summer camp" lakefront home in North Hero was purchased in 2016 for $575,000.
This is where Bernie goes camping in the summer:
(https://i.imgur.com/aKoD4FI.png)
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I saw this morning that Bernie got just over 6,100 votes in the NV caucus. Someone on facebook mentioned that there are more people waiting in line to take a piss at a Trump rally. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Bloomberg is going to be in the next debate. But he won’t be in the next caucus. Barring a brokered convention I think he waited a little too long to get into the race and it is hurting him. Especially when he gets attacked in the debates and then no one can vote for him. Seems like he is in the debates just to be a punching bag. But we’ll see when we get to the convention.
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You Bernie Suckers are Going to Get Fooled Again!
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2020/02/20/you-bernie-suckers-are-going-to-get-fooled-again---p--n2561582
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Bloomberg is going to be in the next debate. But he won’t be in the next caucus. Barring a brokered convention I think he waited a little too long to get into the race and it is hurting him. Especially when he gets attacked in the debates and then no one can vote for him. Seems like he is in the debates just to be a punching bag. But we’ll see when we get to the convention.
Bloomberg's campaign is sending conflicting signals.
On the one hand, he's saying he can beat Trump. What that implies is he doesn't have confidence that anyone else still in the DNC race can. After the debate, it's unclear whether he can even win the primary, much less the general against an incumbent president.
He was a Democrat up until 2001. Then he was a Republican 2001-2007. He became an Independent after that until 2018. Now he's a Democrat again? He really has no party loyalty or identity at this point.
He claims to fight for the voters, yet his policies in office banned over-16-oz soft drinks, made gun control stricter, and raised taxes which drove the average worker to live outside the city. In 2013, the average worker spent 1/2 their income on housing alone.
Prior to 2020, Bloomberg bragged that stop and frisk was one of the most effective gun control policies in New York. Now, he's apologizing for stop and frisk because he finally sees that targeting people based on apparent race was discriminatory. Even the Supreme Court said that, but it took until he was running for President to admit they were right and he was wrong.
At this point, he seems to be unable to find a talking point that doesn't make him look bad -- or at least unable to compete with Trump's record.
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Bloomberg would be a bad news for everyone except the ultra rich.
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I am rooting for Bernie. As much as I love the Supreme Court appointments so far my concern now is that gutting the welfare system would trigger a crime wave. Weening people off means building a successful economy, and right now the numbers are still based on lies.
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Theres a moron in fb posting about berns free healthcare and he wants it. Even after a few people who lived in the UK shared their stories and hate free healthcare, he still wants it.
Thats like going to a steak house and asking people eating the chicken how it was. Multiple replied it sucks, get the steak. Then he forces the entire steakhouse to serve only the chicken to all diners.
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Theres a moron in fb posting about berns free healthcare and he wants it. Even after a few people who lived in the UK shared their stories and hate free healthcare, he still wants it.
Thats like going to a steak house and asking people eating the chicken how it was. Multiple replied it sucks, get the steak. Then he forces the entire steakhouse to serve only the chicken to all diners.
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I don't know if Bernie knows anyone on Medicare, but it's NOT FREE. Why do supplemental insurance plans exist? Why are there "Part B" supplemental insurance products? Ever look at Medicare's deductibles and co-pays?
This is the "plan" Bernie wants us to all be on ... because -->> FREE!!!
https://www.medicare.gov/your-medicare-costs/medicare-costs-at-a-glance
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Theres a moron in fb posting about berns free healthcare and he wants it. Even after a few people who lived in the UK shared their stories and hate free healthcare, he still wants it.
Thats like going to a steak house and asking people eating the chicken how it was. Multiple replied it sucks, get the steak. Then he forces the entire steakhouse to serve only the chicken to all diners.
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Ask him if he knows that you have to pay for Medicare. This year it costs $144.60/month. And the coverage is not that great compared to his employer provided insurance. Ask him if he wants that $144.60/month taken directly out of his bank account or government check because the federal government doesn’t take personal checks or credit cards. Here is the link that explains the costs and how bad the coverage is. Tell him to look over the document and compare it to his current policy.
https://www.medicare.gov/Pubs/pdf/11579-medicare-costs.pdf
If he wants to supplant his Medicare coverage to be the same as his current policy he needs to spend as much as $150/month for a Medicare Supplement Plan. That is $295/month for Medicare and supplement that he is not currently spending which will come directly out of his account whether he gets paid or not. And Medicare does not include prescription coverage, dental insurance nor vision insurance. Those are at least another $100+/month if he wants them. That is the definition of single payer. And that is what he wants? He is an idiot.
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I am going to keep going on this because I’m not happy with Medicare that was forced on my wife. Currently, I pay the above mentioned $295/month Plus I pay $75 for Medicare Part D for prescription drug coverage. So far that is $370/month. BTW, I pay for the best Part D you can buy. The total for all of the copayments for this year will be $4,800. That’s another $400/month just for copays. That is a total of $770/month for Medicare Parts A, B and D. And she currently does not have dental nor vision care because the plans are not readily accepted here in Hawaii. I am going to purchase them after I move. It looks like Medicare is going to cost close to $900/month for my wife for this year.
If you have diabetes or another common condition with expensive drugs you are guaranteed prescription copays in the thousands per year. As it is, because of a sliding scale and the cost of her drugs, the copays are in the thousands for the first 3 months and then drops down to much lower as certain maximum amounts are met. The total for her this year is about $4,800 for the year.
Medicare is far from free and far from cheap. And there is another thing to take into consideration. When you have private insurance they pay for your costs. Pretty much without question. Certain rare diseases may cause them to bring your case in front of a death panel which then decides whether they are going to pay for your rare disease or not. But with Medicare there are no death panels. Just a federal employee that has the power of pay or no pay as they see fit. Worse than a death panel. If they make a mistake and decides not to cover something that might be a normal covered item, they screw you. It takes months and months if not years for hearings in order to convince them they made a mistake. Even then, they have no obligation to pay because they are the government in charge of your life. And whether you like it or not you agreed to let them control your life.
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Ask him if he knows that you have to pay for Medicare. This year it costs $144.60/month. And the coverage is not that great compared to his employer provided insurance. Ask him if he wants that $144.60/month taken directly out of his bank account or government check because the federal government doesn’t take personal checks or credit cards. Here is the link that explains the costs and how bad the coverage is. Tell him to look over the document and compare it to his current policy.
https://www.medicare.gov/Pubs/pdf/11579-medicare-costs.pdf
If he wants to supplant his Medicare coverage to be the same as his current policy he needs to spend as much as $150/month for a Medicare Supplement Plan. That is $295/month for Medicare and supplement that he is not currently spending which will come directly out of his account whether he gets paid or not. And Medicare does not include prescription coverage, dental insurance nor vision insurance. Those are at least another $100+/month if he wants them. That is the definition of single payer. And that is what he wants? He is an idiot.
Yes, he's an idiot.
He preaches "Democratic Socialism", but in reality, his plans fall under a "Socialist Democracy." Ever notice how all the big communist countries label themselves Democratic or "The People's Republic"?
One current example of how Leftists use Democratic to make Socialism less harsh-sounding is North Korea:
Democratic People's Republic of Korea
That's "Democratic Socialism" in action.
People's Republic:
As a term, it is associated with socialist states as well as communist countries adhering to Marxism–Leninism,
although its use is not unique to such states. A number of republics with liberal democratic political systems
such as Algeria and Bangladesh adopted the title, given its rather generic nature, after popular wars of independence.
Nonetheless, they usually mention socialism in their constitutions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_republic
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If you have diabetes or another common condition with expensive drugs you are guaranteed prescription copays in the thousands per year. As it is, because of a sliding scale and the cost of her drugs, the copays are in the thousands for the first 3 months and then drops down to much lower as certain maximum amounts are met. The total for her this year is about $4,800 for the year.
It sounds like prescription drug costs are the real issue. If I would only have to pay $300 a month for meaningful health insurance then I would have the option of quitting my day job and growing my small business. The reasons Democrats and the establishment media are going after Bernie is that Big Pharma owns or is closely related with all major news networks and has invested heavily in both parties to make sure this monopoly continues, as well as the various subsidies they enjoy. The United States has never been a pure capitalist system, not even close. In a capitalist system "Too Big To Fail" would just be "Fail"
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It sounds like prescription drug costs are the real issue. If I would only have to pay $300 a month for meaningful health insurance then I would have the option of quitting my day job and growing my small business. The reasons Democrats and the establishment media are going after Bernie is that Big Pharma owns or is closely related with all major news networks and has invested heavily in both parties to make sure this monopoly continues, as well as the various subsidies they enjoy. The United States has never been a pure capitalist system, not even close. In a capitalist system "Too Big To Fail" would just be "Fail"
I felt the same way at first. At $300/month plus add another $150/month for prescriptions and dental and vision. Still not a bad deal, right? Except that Medicare Parts A & B is not insurance. It doesn’t work the same way as insurance. So it is not the same concept as the healthy pays for the unhealthy. And whatever is left over is profit for the insurance companies. The government has to control how much is paid to doctors and for prescriptions in order for Medicare to work. And of course the government cannot profit off its citizens. The problem with this way of paying for healthcare is that it stifles innovation and the research and testing that goes into developing new drugs and new procedures and equipment to do new procedures. Without someone paying for it, it won’t occur. Then we will eventually fall into a 3rd world healthcare system like Canada and England. The world benefits from our ability to come out with all these new things. That is why there is such a disparity between our prescription costs and say Canada’s. The U.S. subsidizes the costs so we can have the best most innovative drugs available. If we go to a similar system you can kiss all this new innovation goodbye or things that would have been developed in your lifetime might not become a reality until many years after your life. This is a Socialism type system for providing healthcare. They control what drugs, procedures and equipment you are limited to.
Let me give you a real life example. When I talk about Medicare, I am talking only about parts A & B. Supplement plans and Part D (Drugs) is provided strictly by the insurance companies per government guidelines. When my wife was first diagnosed with diabetes she had to keep all these little vials of insulin in the frig along with boxes and boxes of needles. She had to give herself 3 injections per meal. When these new innovative drugs came out along with a new innovative delivery system she was so happy to only have to take 1 injection per meal with an additional one per day and one per week. The drugs come in pens now. So no need to keep boxes of needles around along with lots of little vials of insulin. But then she got Kaiser. And they run things like socialism. They control everything like doctor pay, hospital costs and prescription costs. This stifles them. She had to go back to keeping boxes of needles and vials on insulin and taking 3 shots per meal and she no longer had access to all the latest and greatest drugs. All because Kaiser keeps their costs for her healthcare down by denying her access to the latest and greatest. At least she is back to her having access to the latest drugs again now that we are back to a free market Part D insurance. And with that comes no boxes of needles and no vials and the convenience of her using a pen to deliver her new drugs. And of course she only has to inject herself 4 times a day instead of 9 times. It may not sound like much but it is. But of course with this comes a cost to my wife and I. Believe it or not my wife’s Medicare parts A & B plus Part D including all of our deductibles and copays is a wash with what our private insurance costs were. The only difference is that instead of having a high monthly cost with private insurance we have a lower monthly cost but much higher deductibles and copays that vary widely from month to month. And private insurance is much easier to deal with than the government. All of this is just my experience. Yours may vary and probably will.
While I thought my wife’s insurance costs would go down with Medicare, the fact that she was forced onto it by the government and the varying costs per month are what I am most pissed about. Like I said, the costs are close to being a wash between our private insurance and Medicare. But when you include all these years of SS and Medicare coming out of my paychecks then the costs for me are actually higher. In other words we paid into the system for 40 years for the privilege to have the government force us to pay about the same for healthcare. Socialism at work.
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I felt the same way at first. At $300/month plus add another $150/month for prescriptions and dental and vision. Still not a bad deal, right? Except that Medicare Parts A & B is not insurance. It doesn’t work the same way as insurance. So it is not the same concept as the healthy pays for the unhealthy. And whatever is left over is profit for the insurance companies. The government has to control how much is paid to doctors and for prescriptions in order for Medicare to work. And of course the government cannot profit off its citizens. The problem with this way of paying for healthcare is that it stifles innovation and the research and testing that goes into developing new drugs and new procedures and equipment to do new procedures. Without someone paying for it, it won’t occur. Then we will eventually fall into a 3rd world healthcare system like Canada and England. The world benefits from our ability to come out with all these new things. That is why there is such a disparity between our prescription costs and say Canada’s. The U.S. subsidizes the costs so we can have the best most innovative drugs available. If we go to a similar system you can kiss all this new innovation goodbye or things that would have been developed in your lifetime might not become a reality until many years after your life. This is a Socialism type system for providing healthcare. They control what drugs, procedures and equipment you are limited to.
Let me give you a real life example. When I talk about Medicare, I am talking only about parts A & B. Supplement plans and Part D (Drugs) is provided strictly by the insurance companies per government guidelines. When my wife was first diagnosed with diabetes she had to keep all these little vials of insulin in the frig along with boxes and boxes of needles. She had to give herself 3 injections per meal. When these new innovative drugs came out along with a new innovative delivery system she was so happy to only have to take 1 injection per meal with an additional one per day and one per week. The drugs come in pens now. So no need to keep boxes of needles around along with lots of little vials of insulin. But then she got Kaiser. And they run things like socialism. They control everything like doctor pay, hospital costs and prescription costs. This stifles them. She had to go back to keeping boxes of needles and vials on insulin and taking 3 shots per meal and she no longer had access to all the latest and greatest drugs. All because Kaiser keeps their costs for her healthcare down by denying her access to the latest and greatest. At least she is back to her having access to the latest drugs again now that we are back to a free market Part D insurance. And with that comes no boxes of needles and no vials and the convenience of her using a pen to deliver her new drugs. And of course she only has to inject herself 4 times a day instead of 9 times. It may not sound like much but it is. But of course with this comes a cost to my wife and I. Believe it or not my wife’s Medicare parts A & B plus Part D including all of our deductibles and copays is a wash with what our private insurance costs were. The only difference is that instead of having a high monthly cost with private insurance we have a lower monthly cost but much higher deductibles and copays that vary widely from month to month. And private insurance is much easier to deal with than the government. All of this is just my experience. Yours may vary and probably will.
While I thought my wife’s insurance costs would go down with Medicare, the fact that she was forced onto it by the government and the varying costs per month are what I am most pissed about. Like I said, the costs are close to being a wash between our private insurance and Medicare. But when you include all these years of SS and Medicare coming out of my paychecks then the costs for me are actually higher. In other words we paid into the system for 40 years for the privilege to have the government force us to pay about the same for healthcare. Socialism at work.
Thanks for your candor!
Look into Part "C". I know you intend to leave Hawaii,
but here HMSA part "C" is much better coverage, and basically
a "wash" with her present "out-of-pocket" monthly costs with
Kaiser.
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Thanks for your candor!
Look into Part "C". I know you intend to leave Hawaii,
but here HMSA part "C" is much better coverage, and basically
a "wash" with her present "out-of-pocket" monthly costs with
Kaiser.
The example I gave above with insurance costs were first private insurance then Kaiser and now Medicare with a Supplement Plan F using private doctors. So she is no longer with Kaiser. I just gave the example to show how well off she was with private insurance then Kaiser and now Medicare with Plan F with private doctors.
Thanks for the suggestion on Part C. Unfortunately, with all the care she needs the Plan F Supplement was the best fit for her along with a separate Part D plan. With the expensive prescriptions she has the Part C would cost us a lot more as they don't cover the expensive prescriptions in the same way the Part D plan does.
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Watching the Dem debate. Lots of fireworks the first hour. You’ll see the clips later tonight or tomorrow. Pretty funny stuff. I am not sure why Bernie Sanders yelling and acting mad is a good look for him? Buttigieg actually looks and sounds sane compared to Bernie and Joe. Bernie keeps interrupting people and yelling over them. They are trying to run against Trump rather than trying to run on their merits. Klobuchar is even attacking Bernie for alienating the base. Joe is sounding old and out of it.
Big statement of the night? Bloomberg admitted he bought the elections of 24 seats in the house that put Pelosi into power. Just can’t make this stuff up!
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I don't know if Bernie knows anyone on Medicare, but it's NOT FREE. Why do supplemental insurance plans exist? Why are there "Part B" supplemental insurance products? Ever look at Medicare's deductibles and co-pays?
This is the "plan" Bernie wants us to all be on ... because -->> FREE!!!
https://www.medicare.gov/your-medicare-costs/medicare-costs-at-a-glance
That's pretty much what I have been trying to fathom why people have latched onto stuff like this that Bernie spews. I get why the millennials and younger seem to latch onto these ideas, but why older also seem to do so. It is my understanding Bernie has a pretty good following in the 55+ age range.
And healthcare isn't a basic human right. It is a service. Now if some people are getting denied opportunities that are afforded to others, I can see that, but I don't think that is happening.
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Watching the Dem debate. Lots of fireworks the first hour. You’ll see the clips later tonight or tomorrow. Pretty funny stuff. I am not sure why Bernie Sanders yelling and acting mad is a good look for him? Buttigieg actually looks and sounds sane compared to Bernie and Joe. Bernie keeps interrupting people and yelling over them. They are trying to run against Trump rather than trying to run on their merits. Klobuchar is even attacking Bernie for alienating the base. Joe is sounding old and out of it.
Big statement of the night? Bloomberg admitted he bought the elections of 24 seats in the house that put Pelosi into power. Just can’t make this stuff up!
It's fuel for the TDS insanity machine. . . Why people think he will be good for the US in any way shape or form is baffling to me.
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OMG, Joe was on a roll and he just stopped and said, “Why am I stopping? No one else is stopping.” Then he said something about Catholic school training. Man he is looking dazed and confused. And angry.
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This second hour they are kinda ignoring Bloomberg and Steyer. I have not heard much from either of them this second hour. Next up? Personal questions. Oh I gotta see this....
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It's fuel for the TDS insanity machine. . . Why people think he will be good for the US in any way shape or form is baffling to me.
What is really baffling to me is why the panel is letting Bernie get away with his communist agenda? He yells his communist crap and they just sort of accept it. They challenged him a little but just let him off the hook. Terrible softball questions.
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OMG, Joe was on a roll and he just stopped and said, “Why am I stopping? No one else is stopping.” Then he said something about Catholic school training. Man he is looking dazed and confused. And angry.
Showtime (at least I think) has a show about the circus that is the Democratic conventions/caususes/etc. They interviewed Biden on that and whoa is that guy either way out of touch with reality, completely deluded, or both. :crazy:
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Showtime (at least I think) has a show about the circus that is the Democratic conventions/caususes/etc. They interviewed Biden on that and whoa is that guy either way out of touch with reality, completely deluded, or both. :crazy:
What is the biggest misconception about you? What is your motto?
Joe: I think I have more hair than I do. I’ll make sure there is a black woman in SCOTUS.
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Okay, the debates are over. Last thought. I could be wrong but it looked like Warren turned down a handshake with Bernie. And it look like he said something to her and she turned and walked away saying something looking kinda pissed. Warning, I could be misinterpreting this. But that is how it looked to me.
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That's pretty much what I have been trying to fathom why people have latched onto stuff like this that Bernie spews. I get why the millennials and younger seem to latch onto these ideas,
Socialism must be connected to Social Media therefore I Tweet "Like" . :crazy:
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As for Bernie constantly throwing around "DENMARK!!" as the Socialist utopia we need to be more like, the Danes told him in 2015 to knock off the rhetoric.
The Danes apparently have grown weary of Sen. Bernie Sanders insulting their country. Denmark
is not a socialist nation, says its prime minister. It has a "market economy."
Sanders, the Democratic presidential candidate who calls himself a socialist, has used Denmark as
the example of the socialist utopia he wants to create in America. During the Democrats' first debate
last month, he said "we should look to countries like Denmark, like Sweden and Norway, and learn
from what they have accomplished for their working people."
While appearing in New Hampshire in September, Sanders said that he had "talked to a guy from
Denmark" who told him that in Denmark, "it is very hard to become very, very rich, but it's pretty hard
to be very, very poor."
"And that makes a lot of sense to me."
So because something makes sense to him, he has the right to force that system on people who don't
want it? Isn't that what he's saying?
But we digress. This is about Danes being offend[ed] by Sanders using the word "socialist" to describe
their form of government. And who can blame them, especially when the free world has had enough
of national socialists and Soviet socialists and North Korean socialists and Cuban socialists?
I reckon you can't teach an old Socialist new propaganda. :crazy:
https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/denmark-tells-bernie-sanders-to-stop-calling-it-socialist/
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Biden revealed the super secret stats on "gun violence": "Over 150 MILLION people have been killed by guns since 2007." And he's referring to the United States, as he then says "since Bernie voted to exempt gun manufacturers from liability".
The (some) Dems really think an obviously cognitively impaired geezer would be good to have as president?! JFC!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1232485145732509704 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1232485145732509704)
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Am watching some post debate analysis and seems like it was a total shitshow. People talking over each other, lengthy ranting, and no control.
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Am watching some post debate analysis and seems like it was a total shitshow. People talking over each other, lengthy ranting, and no control.
Yuuuuuuup!!!!!! :rofl:
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Am watching some post debate analysis and seems like it was a total shitshow. People talking over each other, lengthy ranting, and no control.
Imagine the grades high school students would get if they "debated" the way these "adult" clowns act on stage.
It should be obvious to anyone that the Dens "debate" skills are all about feelings and mudslinging -- just trying to make themselves look good by comparison. Not the "point, counter-point, rebuttal" format a real debate is supposed to use.
All they do is give talking points, mini speeches and attacks. Now that they are in the primaries where it counts, they have to start slinging the mud they'd been spewing at the President on each other.
These are the best and brightest of the Democrat Party. I'm anticipating Mazie throwing her hat into the ring one of these years, too, "Woman of color!" "I hated Trump even before he bet Obama he wouldn't produce a birth certificate!" etc, etc, ad nauseam ....
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So, if Bernie "Honeymooned in Moscow" Sanders wins the presidency (humongous "if"), I don't think we have to worry about Socialism.
He's been in Congress as a Rep and Senator now for 29 years (Rep: 1991-2007; Sen: 2007-Present). I went to Congress.gov and did a search of his record.
He's sponsored 934 bills over his 29 years. Of those only 3 have been signed into law, and 2 of those were to rename a Post Office. :wacko:
To be fair, he's co-sponsored a higher number, and 221 of those became law (218 if you don't count the 3 he sponsored as the primary).
Many of the laws co-sponsored were to authorize Congressional Gold Medals for people and organizations -- about 23.
A bigger number were resolutions, like condemning the violence at Charlottesville, Va. He also signs onto the bills to provide annual COLA increases for Veterans, as if that's not going to be close to automatically signed by the President. Another co-sponsored law was to let the Post Office raise funds for breast cancer awareness.
Somehow, I'd think in his decades of gov't service, he would have a better resume.
It lends credence to Hildabeast's recent comment, that nobody in Congress likes Bernie, and nobody wants to work with him. If that's true (considering the source), I don't think Bernie has the backing to implement his Socialist ideology.
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So, if Bernie "Honeymooned in Moscow" Sanders wins the presidency (humongous "if"), I don't think we have to worry about Socialism.
He's been in Congress as a Rep and Senator now for 29 years (Rep: 1991-2007; Sen: 2007-Present). I went to Congress.gov and did a search of his record.
He's sponsored 934 bills over his 29 years. Of those only 3 have been signed into law, and 2 of those were to rename a Post Office. :wacko:
To be fair, he's co-sponsored a higher number, and 221 of those became law (218 if you don't count the 3 he sponsored as the primary).
Many of the laws co-sponsored were to authorize Congressional Gold Medals for people and organizations -- about 23.
A bigger number were resolutions, like condemning the violence at Charlottesville, Va. He also signs onto the bills to provide annual COLA increases for Veterans, as if that's not going to be close to automatically signed by the President. Another co-sponsored law was to let the Post Office raise funds for breast cancer awareness.
Somehow, I'd think in his decades of gov't service, he would have a better resume.
It lends credence to Hildabeast's recent comment, that nobody in Congress likes Bernie, and nobody wants to work with him. If that's true (considering the source), I don't think Bernie has the backing to implement his Socialist ideology.
The conservative news outlets all claim that he has done very little if anything during his supposed career. Now I see why they say this. Why is it those who work the least want the toughest job in the world? Rhetorical question. Not worried about you (Flapp) answering this. I just don’t want a certain person who doesn’t have good reading comprehension to answer this. :rofl:
If Bernie does get the nomination and and actually becomes president, h can still do a lot of damage with Executive Orders. Much in the same way Obama did during his term. This is why I don’t like the use of EO’s. The original premise makes sense. And the use by previous earlier presidents was limited. But the use by more recent presidents is a bit alarming to me. I think in order to limit their use we should allow the president only like 10 or 20 EO’s per term. Even Trump has issued 140 so far. About half of Obama and much less than others. A lot of the Trump EO’s have been used to undo previous administrations EO’s. Especially in the regulation area. But if you look at some of the EO’s issued by Trump they were used to improve people’s lives rather than restrict or punish businesses or sectors or opponents. I personally just don’t care for this power due to the way Obama used his. Some of his were illegal and have been shot down in the courts. His AG should have discouraged him from issuing some of these.
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Interesting note that media is basically trying to brace up support for Biden again. Apparently, he is still the DNC’s #1 candidate. If he wins SC he might still just get the super delegate support that I predicted earlier. But if he has another poor showing I don’t know what the DNC is going to do? I’m not sure what they still see in him, tho, He is not all with us I think. To me he is either showing signs of extreme stress or more likely he is losing his faculties. It’s sad. He should have stayed in retirement.
I really can’t see them supporting Bernie. They know if they nominate Bernie, he will lose. And I think Bernie has the best chance of winning against Trump than Biden does.
Overall the debate last night was a free for all with no moderator really stepping in when things got out of hand. There will be some great video clips coming out this morning.
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Lot of criticism on social media about the lack of control by King and ODonnell.
If I was the moderator, I would demand that 1) I have a switch to cut off anyone's mike.
2) Tell the nominees that if they keep talking after I tell them your time is up, they will be escorted off the stage after the first warning.
Not sure who the eventual nominee will be, but heard one political analyst say yesterday that 65% of voters think that Trump will be re-elected.
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Lot of criticism on social media about the lack of control by King and ODonnell.
If I was the moderator, I would demand that 1) I have a switch to cut off anyone's mike.
2) Tell the nominees that if they keep talking after I tell them your time is up, they will be escorted off the stage after the first warning.
Not sure who the eventual nominee will be, but heard one political analyst say yesterday that 65% of voters think that Trump will be re-elected.
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Gayle King in a tight purple dress made her look like Barney the dinosaur.
Bloomberg dropped the Russia bomb on Bernie within the first 2 minutes.
When it was all over, everybody was shaking hands with each other, except Biden who walked away.
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It lends credence to Hildabeast's recent comment, that nobody in Congress likes Bernie, and nobody wants to work with him. If that's true (considering the source), I don't think Bernie has the backing to implement his Socialist ideology.
To be fair it is not easy to push through an agenda being an outsider, and he was probably hired to push back against the establishment rather than lead it in a new direction.
I agree that there is no need to worry about a radical agenda and his accomplishments will be limited by the uncooperativeness of the deep state, at least until the next midterm.
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You can bet on who will win the next election. Las Vegas odds favor Trump by 61.5%.
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To be fair it is not easy to push through an agenda being an outsider, and he was probably hired to push back against the establishment rather than lead it in a new direction.
I agree that there is no need to worry about a radical agenda and his accomplishments will be limited by the uncooperativeness of the deep state, at least until the next midterm.
If Bernie is still an outsider after 29 years in the US Congress, then it speaks volumes about his inability to get anything done if he becomes President.
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Interesting note that media is basically trying to brace up support for Biden again. Apparently, he is still the DNC’s #1 candidate. If he wins SC he might still just get the super delegate support that I predicted earlier. But if he has another poor showing I don’t know what the DNC is going to do? I’m not sure what they still see in him, tho, He is not all with us I think. To me he is either showing signs of extreme stress or more likely he is losing his faculties. It’s sad. He should have stayed in retirement.
I really can’t see them supporting Bernie. They know if they nominate Bernie, he will lose. And I think Bernie has the best chance of winning against Trump than Biden does.
Overall the debate last night was a free for all with no moderator really stepping in when things got out of hand. There will be some great video clips coming out this morning.
The problem with him winning in SC is it'll be for the Senate, not the Presidency.
I'd call that a forfeit. :rofl:
https://youtu.be/xGymiFlyl0E
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If Bernie is still an outsider after 29 years in the US Congress, then it speaks volumes about his inability to get anything done if he becomes President.
I agree
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Apparently. Bernie is pissing off people on both sides -- Republican and Democrat -- with his comments about Cuba.
The GOP gave a press conference today to announce a resolution condemning Sander's comments and lies.
A Socialist who can't play well with others? Whodathunkit?
Oh, wait! Wasn't Bernie thrown out of a commune in the 60s or 70s for not working? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Florida Republican introduces resolution condemning Sanders' Castro remarks
Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.) introduced a resolution Wednesday condemning Democratic presidential
front-runner Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) for his positive remarks about Cuba under the late dictator Fidel
Castro.
Sanders this week said it would be "unfair to simply say everything" under Castro was bad, pointing to the
high literacy rate when the Cuban leader was in power. The comments, which Sanders later doubled down
on, were criticized by lawmakers on both sides of the aisle.
Diaz-Balart — a relative of Castro's and a staunch critic of Cuban leadership — blasted Sanders’s remarks
Wednesday.
“I remind the senator and the progressive movement that the Castro regime is a threat, not only by the way
to the national security of the United States, but also to all of the democracies in this hemisphere. This
regime has been on the list of state sponsors of terrorism for many years for its support of other terrorist
states and organized terrorist groups,” he told reporters at a press conference.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/484834-florida-republican-introduces-resolution-condemning-sanderss-castro-remarks
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Bernie Sanders Was Asked to Leave
Hippie Commune for Shirking, Book Claims
Bernie Sanders was asked to leave a hippie commune in 1971 for "sitting around and talking"
about politics instead of working, according to a forthcoming book.
We Are As Gods by Kate Daloz, scheduled for release April 26, chronicles the rise and fall of
the Myrtle Hill Farm in northeast Vermont. Daloz, a Brooklyn writer, was in a special position to
write a history of Myrtle Hill: she was raised near the commune in a geodesic dome residence
with an outhouse called the Richard M. Nixon Memorial Hall. Her parents were close acquaintances
of the commune residents, who offered them tips about wilderness living.
In the summer of 1971, Myrtle Hill received a visitor: Bernie Sanders, age 30, at the cusp of his
political career with the socialist Liberty Union Party.
Sanders came to the farm while researching an article on natural childbirth for the Liberty Union’s
party organ, Movement. Interest in alternative medicine was strong among members of the counterculture
as part of their wider suspicion of modern science, which was associated with the sterility of hospitals
and the destruction of war. "Many elements of Western medicine came under suspicion during this period,
but none more so than modern obstetrics," Deloz writes.
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When not reporting on the miracle of life, Sanders spent his time at Myrtle Hill in "endless political discussion,"
according to Deloz.
Sanders’ idle chatter did not endear him with some of the commune’s residents, who did the backbreaking
labor of running the place. Daloz writes that one resident, Craig, "resented feeling like he had to pull others
out of Bernie’s orbit if any work was going to get accomplished that day."
https://freebeacon.com/politics/bernie-sanders-asked-leave-hippie-commune/
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Lot of criticism on social media about the lack of control by King and ODonnell.
If I was the moderator, I would demand that 1) I have a switch to cut off anyone's mike.
2) Tell the nominees that if they keep talking after I tell them your time is up, they will be escorted off the stage after the first warning.
Not sure who the eventual nominee will be, but heard one political analyst say yesterday that 65% of voters think that Trump will be re-elected.
Yes, cutting off the mike after your 75 seconds or whatever is a good idea. :thumbsup:
Another option is to give each candidate a certain total amount of speaking time, i.e.15 minutes.
You could talk in length about something, but it would decrease the amount of time to talk or rebut anything else.
You interrupt or talk over someone else's allotted time, it also cuts into your time allotment.
Using the above, yesterdays debate would have been over in about 17 minutes. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Yes, cutting off the mike after your 75 seconds or whatever is a good idea. :thumbsup:
Another option is to give each candidate a certain total amount of speaking time, i.e.15 minutes.
You could talk in length about something, but it would decrease the amount of time to talk or rebut anything else.
You interrupt or talk over someone else's allotted time, it also cuts into your time allotment.
Using the above, yesterdays debate would have been over in about 17 minutes. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
One problem with an aggregate time allotment is the candidates would all have stop-watchers, and they'd all be claiming their candidates were shorted on allowed talk time.
"I was shorted 15 seconds, mostly due to people interrupting, but the other candidates were given additional time over their limit. FOUL!!"
I think a stop light would work.
Green -- your time to talk. If your light isn't on, STFU.
Yellow -- 15 second warning.
Red -- Time's expired. STFU. Any time you take after the red light will get DEDUCTED from your next green light.
So, the more you run over your red light, the less time you get during subsequent talk-times. The decision of how much "penalty" time gets deducted is the time-keeper's sole decision and is incontestable. Don't like that? Then stop running long.
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One problem with an aggregate time allotment is the candidates would all have stop-watchers, and they'd all be claiming their candidates were shorted on allowed talk time.
"I was shorted 15 seconds, mostly due to people interrupting, but the other candidates were given additional time over their limit. FOUL!!"
I think a stop light would work.
Green -- your time to talk. If your light isn't on, STFU.
Yellow -- 15 second warning.
Red -- Time's expired. STFU. Any time you take after the red light will get DEDUCTED from your next green light.
So, the more you run over your red light, the less time you get during subsequent talk-times. The decision of how much "penalty" time gets deducted is the time-keeper's sole decision and is incontestable. Don't like that? Then stop running long.
I think they should put shock collars on them. Go over? ZAAAAAAP!!! And if they continue to talk, up the amps til they start to smoke. And if they still continue up the amps til they combust. 😂
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I think they should put shock collars on them. Go over? ZAAAAAAP!!! And if they continue to talk, up the amps til they start to smoke. And if they still continue up the amps til they combust. 😂
like the dogs they are
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I think they should put shock collars on them. Go over? ZAAAAAAP!!! And if they continue to talk, up the amps til they start to smoke. And if they still continue up the amps til they combust. 😂
The problem with that plan is some would enjoy the buzzzzzzzzzz. :rofl: And Biden would turn into more of a tourretes patient than he already is. "Son of a bitch!!" :shake:
Want to hit them where they really hurt? For every 5 seconds they talk past time, or any portion thereof, their campaign must pay $5,000 into a kitty, the proceeds of which would be split by all the candidates on stage.
The people paying the least would benefit the most. Of course, Bloomy could afford to talk the whole time, but he'd be effectively donating to all his opponents.
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He is a moron. Posted today on ssh off topic to support bernie.
I bet he has a college degree and thinks he is very smart.
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The problem with that plan is some would enjoy the buzzzzzzzzzz. :rofl: And Biden would turn into more of a tourretes patient than he already is. "Son of a bitch!!" :shake:
Want to hit them where they really hurt? For every 5 seconds they talk past time, or any portion thereof, their campaign must pay $5,000 into a kitty, the proceeds of which would be split by all the candidates on stage.
The people paying the least would benefit the most. Of course, Bloomy could afford to talk the whole time, but he'd be effectively donating to all his opponents.
I actually like listening to Biden. He is very entertaining. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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I actually like listening to Biden. He is very entertaining. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Entertaining as a drunken fool uncle sort of way? :crazy:
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Entertaining as a drunken fool uncle sort of way? :crazy:
:rofl:
More like the village idiot sort of way! :shake: :shake: :shake:
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He is a moron. Posted today on ssh off topic to support bernie.
I bet he has a college degree and thinks he is very smart.
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More like the village idiot sort of way! :shake: :shake: :shake:
Yeah, he's that as well. . . :rofl:
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Talking about that guy who wants free healthcare.
Missed this thread for a few days.
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I actually like listening to Biden. He is very entertaining. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Uncle Joe has been a gaff machine his whole career. It's part of the reason he's run for president in the past and never been close to getting the nomination.
When he was younger, he was funny. Now that this is turning into an obvious dementia situation, whether by old age, disease or stroke, it's just sad.
His people should be merciful and tell him to write his memoirs and go on book tours. The country will have to get along without him in public office.
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Uncle Joe has been a gaff machine his whole career. It's part of the reason he's run for president in the past and never been close to getting the nomination.
When he was younger, he was funny. Now that this is turning into an obvious dementia situation, whether by old age, disease or stroke, it's just sad.
His people should be merciful and tell him to write his memoirs and go on book tours. The country will have to get along without him in public office.
It would be a huge mistake if the DNC were to make sure Joe gets the majority of superdelegates In a brokered convention. That’s assuming that Bernie doesn’t get enough so there won’t be a brokered convention. I really don’t know what is going to happen? But the DNC is in big trouble here. Biden is out in left field somewhere, so far so that even he doesn’t know where he is. Bloomberg is too old, too rich, too white, too short and I’m guessing Trump will say his dick is too short. Bernie is too close to being a full fledge communist. Bernie could really upset the apple cart if he gets enough delegates to not need a brokered convention. Can you imagine if he becomes the leader of the Democrat Party?
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Bernie could really upset the apple cart if he gets enough delegates to not need a brokered convention. Can you imagine if he becomes the leader of the Democrat Party?
Yes I can. Trump would be re-elected, Pelosi won't be Speaker of the House, Mitch McConnell will continue as Senate Majority leader and Trump will appoint another 150 Fed judges and at least one more to SCOTUS. Dems will try to impeach him again.
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Yes I can. Trump would be re-elected, Pelosi won't be Speaker of the House, Mitch McConnell will continue as Senate Majority leader and Trump will appoint another 150 Fed judges and at least one more to SCOTUS. Dems will try to impeach him again.
While I think you are absolutely right, I have my doubts that Bernie will get the nomination. I believe the DNC will find a way to steal the nomination away from Bernie a second time.
While I think Bernie stands the best chance (out of all the other losers) to unseat Trump, I don’t think he has a chance to actually do just that. If he does get the nomination, I agree with you that the Dems stand a good chance of losing the House and losing seats in the Senate. And I think they are well aware of that. That is why I think they will find a way of giving the nomination to someone else. What I think is weird is the media propping up support for Biden in SC today. From the beginning I have felt that Biden is the DNC’s nominee and I originally thought that he would get the needed delegates at a brokered convention or at Super Tuesday. After seeing Biden falter and Bernie surging I realized my prediction is going to be wrong. But the media is actually saying Biden has a chance to take SC today by double digits! Personally, I don’t believe this. I think Bernie is going to take SC over Biden but it will be close. My prediction, of course I could be wrong and I probably will be. If the Dems cheat at counting the votes, then Biden wins and goes into Super Tuesday looking like he will garner a lot of delegates. But I think there are other powers at work here. In SC the registered voters can vote for any candidate in either party. Trump and others in the Rep party are encouraging their constituents to vote for Bernie. It is called “Operation Chaos”. It could be an empty threat but if I lived in SC I would vote for Bernie in order to cause that chaos for the DNC. This is why I think Bernie wins SC and goes into Super Tuesday in a position the DNC is terrified of.
I just read that a record number of Republicans have registered to run for House Reps and Senators. Some even running against established Dems like Pelosi and Schiff. Since I think barring Trump fumbling right before the election that he is a shoe in, the down ballot elections are what are most at stake in this election IMHO. We actually might have a good chance to win back the House. And if we do, no more impeachment BS.
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While I think you are absolutely right, I have my doubts that Bernie will get the nomination. I believe the DNC will find a way to steal the nomination away from Bernie a second time.
While I think Bernie stands the best chance (out of all the other losers) to unseat Trump, I don’t think he has a chance to actually do just that. If he does get the nomination, I agree with you that the Dems stand a good chance of losing the House and losing seats in the Senate. And I think they are well aware of that. That is why I think they will find a way of giving the nomination to someone else. What I think is weird is the media propping up support for Biden in SC today. From the beginning I have felt that Biden is the DNC’s nominee and I originally thought that he would get the needed delegates at a brokered convention or at Super Tuesday. After seeing Biden falter and Bernie surging I realized my prediction is going to be wrong. But the media is actually saying Biden has a chance to take SC today by double digits! Personally, I don’t believe this. I think Bernie is going to take SC over Biden but it will be close. My prediction, of course I could be wrong and I probably will be. If the Dems cheat at counting the votes, then Biden wins and goes into Super Tuesday looking like he will garner a lot of delegates. But I think there are other powers at work here. In SC the registered voters can vote for any candidate in either party. Trump and others in the Rep party are encouraging their constituents to vote for Bernie. It is called “Operation Chaos”. It could be an empty threat but if I lived in SC I would vote for Bernie in order to cause that chaos for the DNC. This is why I think Bernie wins SC and goes into Super Tuesday in a position the DNC is terrified of.
I just read that a record number of Republicans have registered to run for House Reps and Senators. Some even running against established Dems like Pelosi and Schiff. Since I think barring Trump fumbling right before the election that he is a shoe in, the down ballot elections are what are most at stake in this election IMHO. We actually might have a good chance to win back the House. And if we do, no more impeachment BS.
I don't share your optimism.
The majority of the country are idiots and Democrats. Hawaii government is lost as an example.
I think Trump will have a rough time getting re-elected. I too would vote for Bernie in the primary.
We are really in CW2 it just hasn't got "hot" yet. It will get hot soon. Honolulu is already short on toilet paper.
Prepare. Read up on 4GW.
If you like cops, I say "Molon Labe".
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I don't share your optimism.
The majority of the country are idiots and Democrats. Hawaii government is lost as an example.
I think Trump will have a rough time getting re-elected. I too would vote for Bernie in the primary.
We are really in CW2 it just hasn't got "hot" yet. It will get hot soon. Honolulu is already short on toilet paper.
Prepare. Read up on 4GW.
If you like cops, I say "Molon Labe".
Hey, my optimism could very well be unfounded. I know how you feel about Democrats. And while I think a good portion of how and why they think the Democrat agenda is really stupid, I try to give them the benefit of the doubt that they are just uniformed and naive. Or even just have a different opinion. We will never convince them differently. The way I see the voting pool is that we are split pretty evenly 40%/40%. This 40% on each side can be counted on voting for their party no matter what insane things they say. So really the candidates on both sides are really just trying to get 20% of the registered voters to vote for them. We can count on another 10% to vote for an Independent or Libertarian candidate and/or write in votes. That really leaves just the last 10% of registered voters that will make the final decision in our election. And most of those voters are undecided and Independent voters. So truthfully you are probably more justified in your lack of optimism than I am with my abundance of optimism. What gives me optimism is the unknown and pools of traditional Democrat voters that I feel will vote for Trump. Such as the black and minority vote. He might even pull in more of the women vote. Especially those who have benefitted from the Trump economy. Combine that with the big push to clean up voter rolls across the country I think we might just see a more lopsided result than 2016. While I say you are more likely right than me, I hope my optimism is right.
One should always be prepared. It won’t take long for things to go sideways.
BTW, Costco Kapolei this morning still had some bottled water and paper towels but I didn’t see any toilet paper.
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I don't share your optimism.
The majority of the country are idiots and Democrats. Hawaii government is lost as an example.
I think Trump will have a rough time getting re-elected. I too would vote for Bernie in the primary.
We are really in CW2 it just hasn't got "hot" yet. It will get hot soon. Honolulu is already short on toilet paper.
Prepare. Read up on 4GW.
If you like cops, I say "Molon Labe".
Great post!
Unlike other members on this forum, I, too, am not a fan of police, who have become less akin to uphold the law, but rather uphold the law when they feel like it or go psycho and become Judge Dredd when they do not need to.
The America most older people knew is gone and what's left of the conservatives in this nation are sadly fighting to stop the inevitable. Trump will hopefully win and give old America a brief respite for four more years, but after that, the new America will begin to take over. The number of Democrats and Liberals are much higher in the younger population and once the last of America's conservative boomer generation is gone, the transformation to whatever it becomes will be complete.
I would not at all be surprised to see a total revamp of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights take place in the US 10 years from now as well as what Republican states that remain in the union actively work for succession from the US.
As for CWII getting hot, unless there is an economic collapse, the other side knows that no one will start shooting because most Americans still believe in the idea of America and unwilling to admit that the US has failed, let go of all of its foreign ambitions, and start all over from scratch.
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So Biden is projected to win SC. I was certainly wrong. Biden won handily. Whether because of vote manipulation or he really won on his own accord. Who knows? But this just set him up to do well on Super Tuesday. I still believe he is the DNC’s first pick to get the nomination. I just thought his gaffs were hurting him more than they did.
In the meantime I read somewhere that the Ukraine has finally opened an investigation into Biden. This won’t bode well for him if continues on to get the nomination. Or would it hurt his chances of getting the nomination?
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So Biden is projected to win SC. I was certainly wrong. Biden won handily. Whether because of vote manipulation or he really won on his own accord. Who knows? But this just set him up to do well on Super Tuesday. I still believe he is the DNC’s first pick to get the nomination. I just thought his gaffs were hurting him more than they did.
In the meantime I read somewhere that the Ukraine has finally opened an investigation into Biden. This won’t bode well for him if continues on to get the nomination. Or would it hurt his chances of getting the nomination?
I was surprised at how easily he seems to be winning SC. Wow!
Part of me (sarcastically) thinks an investigation into Biden will actually further energize further support for him amongst the moderates.
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I was surprised at how easily he seems to be winning SC. Wow!
Part of me (sarcastically) thinks an investigation into Biden will actually further energize further support for him amongst the moderates.
With all the momentum and large base that Bernie has, the win for Biden, an especially large win, is very suspicious to me. With Iowa in mind, all the dead voters still voting for Democrats, vote harvesting by the Democrats, and one of the largest turnouts in the state’s primary when turnout has been low in the previous states, etc I wouldn’t doubt the votes were manipulated. But proof? It just seems awfully suspicious to me. The fix is in. Sorry Bernie...
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Another one bites the dust! :geekdanc:
Tom Steyer Drops Out of 2020 Presidential Race
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/us/politics/tom-steyer-drops-out.html
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Another one bites the dust! :geekdanc:
Tom Steyer Drops Out of 2020 Presidential Race
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/us/politics/tom-steyer-drops-out.html
And this was his best finish! He garnered 3rd place.
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Democrats Desperate to End Sanders’ Path of Democratic Destruction
https://thegreggjarrett.com/democrats-desperate-to-end-sanders-path-of-democratic-destruction/
“From Pelosi to DNC members, multiple schemes are being tossed around to end Sanders’ political tear through the primaries. There are reports that Obama is being urged to broker some sort of truce between Sanders and the moderate camps. DNC member from Tennessee, William Owen will even settle for Michelle Obama to be on the ticket as Vice President just so there is someone they can rally behind.“
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Can anyone explain why Tulsi is still campaigning when obviously she has no chance to even get close and is running out of money and donations?
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Can anyone explain why Tulsi is still campaigning when obviously she has no chance to even get close and is running out of money and donations?
Obviously, I’m not good predicting or guessing. Which is why I started this thread. So take whatever I say with a grain of salt. The rumor mill has it that she is vying for being picked as Vice President running mate to Bernie. She fits the Democrat mold (minority, woman, etc). But she does not come with any delegates or much support. Plus she has butted heads with the party numerous times. She gave up her house seat so it looks like she has gone all in on her campaign. This makes sense in some respects as she supported Bernie in 2016. It may be Bernie is really considering her as his running mate so she is staying in the campaign for exposure. I cannot see any other reason behind her staying in the campaign. But what do I know?
If you read the article I posted right before this, the writer discusses some talk about having Michelle Obama becoming Bernie’s running mate just so the party will have someone they can rally around as a way of making Bernie more palatable to the party moderates. Can you imagine being Bernie and having the Democrat party tell you who your running mate is going to be or they will give the nomination to Biden?
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Obviously, I’m not good predicting or guessing. Which is why I started this thread. So take whatever I say with a grain of salt. The rumor mill has it that she is vying for being picked as Vice President running mate to Bernie. She fits the Democrat mold (minority, woman, etc). But she does not come with any delegates or much support. Plus she has butted heads with the party numerous times. She gave up her house seat so it looks like she has gone all in on her campaign. This makes sense in some respects as she supported Bernie in 2016. It may be Bernie is really considering her as his running mate so she is staying in the campaign for exposure. I cannot see any other reason behind her staying in the campaign. But what do I know?
If you read the article I posted right before this, the writer discusses some talk about having Michelle Obama becoming Bernie’s running mate just so the party will have someone they can rally around as a way of making Bernie more palatable to the party moderates. Can you imagine being Bernie and having the Democrat party tell you who your running mate is going to be or they will give the nomination to Biden?
Must be something in the water where we grew up.
You and I think a lot alike.
Tulsi for VP.
Sleepy Joe will do a "Wilson" as in Woodrow, and let her run the show.
Obama is now rich, I don't think she wants to deal with all that white trash
anymore, She no longer has to.
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Must be something in the water where we grew up.
You and I think a lot alike.
Tulsi for VP.
Sleepy Joe will do a "Wilson" as in Woodrow, and let her run the show.
Obama is now rich, I don't think she wants to deal with all that white trash
anymore, She no longer has to.
Believe it or not, Long Beach has it’s own water company and purchases water from different sources than Bellflower does. Bellflower buys their water from Metropolitan Water District (MWD) which comes from the Colorado River. Long Beach buys their water from the Colorado River Aqueduct and from Northern California’s Delta Region. But either way I think most of the water comes from the Colorado River.
What bothers me some is Joe Biden’s gaffs that appear to me to be the beginnings of Alzheimer’s Disease. I have a little experience with a couple of close family members and the making up of stories on the fly and repeating them over and over again is how my two family members started. They firmly believed the stories. In this day and age of information it would be political suicide to do this on purpose. Especially since his handlers are telling him to stop with the story the first time he blurts it out. That is the reason I believe he takes a few days to finally walk them back. It takes them a few days to convince him he was not there nor actually participated in whatever story he is telling. Add to that all the weird misstatements (If it were Trump, they would be lies) he makes constantly. Not what I want in a president. I am no expert in the field, however.
What bothers me the most is Bernie walking back his medical records right after his heart attack. He is obviously hiding something that would either hurt his chances or even preclude him from running for president. He was wide open with them prior to the heart attack. Not that I would vote for Bernie anyway. But if he has a bum ticker and his doctor recommended he not run, I would not vote for him even if he was my candidate. Something is amiss here.
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Believe it or not, Long Beach has it’s own water company and purchases water from different sources than Bellflower does. Bellflower buys their water from Metropolitan Water District (MWD) which comes from the Colorado River. Long Beach buys their water from the Colorado River Aqueduct and from Northern California’s Delta Region. But either way I think most of the water comes from the Colorado River.
What bothers me some is Joe Biden’s gaffs that appear to me to be the beginnings of Alzheimer’s Disease. I have a little experience with a couple of close family members and the making up of stories on the fly and repeating them over and over again is how my two family members started. They firmly believed the stories. In this day and age of information it would be political suicide to do this on purpose. Especially since his handlers are telling him to stop with the story the first time he blurts it out. That is the reason I believe he takes a few days to finally walk them back. It takes them a few days to convince him he was not there nor actually participated in whatever story he is telling. Add to that all the weird misstatements (If it were Trump, they would be lies) he makes constantly. Not what I want in a president. I am no expert in the field, however.
What bothers me the most is Bernie walking back his medical records right after his heart attack. He is obviously hiding something that would either hurt his chances or even preclude him from running for president. He was wide open with them prior to the heart attack. Not that I would vote for Bernie anyway. But if he has a bum ticker and his doctor recommended he not run, I would not vote for him even if he was my candidate. Something is amiss here.
Just for fun.
Two So Cal. kids grew up and are Big Island types.
The Democrats chased us out and look
where we ended up!
Bernie is most likely to become the nominee.
Joe has serious age problems.
Dakine you and I will have to face soon.
In my entire life I've only voted for one Democrat.
Ed Case in the primary to stop the Beeoch
that ended up getting elected.
It is rather useless to vote Republican in Hawaii.
I waste my vote every election.
I devote my efforts to planing to live off Grid
and I'll eat popcorn while Hawaii Democrats
starve and die when their system fails.
Because they are out of toilet paper and nobody
in the ILWU will ship them Spam and rice.
I have plenty of both.
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Buttigieg is out. See ya Mayor Cheat!
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Just for fun.
Two So Cal. kids grew up and are Big Island types.
The Democrats chased us out and look
where we ended up!
Bernie is most likely to become the nominee.
Joe has serious age problems.
Dakine you and I will have to face soon.
In my entire life I've only voted for one Democrat.
Ed Case in the primary to stop the Beeoch
that ended up getting elected.
It is rather useless to vote Republican in Hawaii.
I waste my vote every election.
I devote my efforts to planing to live off Grid
and I'll eat popcorn while Hawaii Democrats
starve and die when their system fails.
Because they are out of toilet paper and nobody
in the ILWU will ship them Spam and rice.
I have plenty of both.
Yeah, I’m disappointed we won’t be able to sit down over a beer and talk story on the BI. I had big plans to fix up my house there which included taking it completely off grid. I doubt my wife will be able to travel much any more. Trips in the car are possible but air travel is probably out after we fly back to the mainland. Maybe if you ever make it out to AZ? Looks like that is where we will make our final stand.
While we bought a house in a rather large subdivision in Prescott Valley we are on the outskirts of it and are just a short drive away from nothing and just a few hours to other free states. I figure it will take quite a few years to fill in the open desert areas. I’m pretty happy with my choice of where to live. At least I’ll finally be back in a free state. I intend to be very active in the gun community since I’ll be retired. Maybe not off grid but the home already has PV installed. The system is fully upgradeable and state of the art. Adding battery backup is in my plans. Before I install the batteries I’ll pick up a generator and I will be fine if I feel like I need to hunker down for a little while. I have lots of storage room in this house. Probably more than I’ll ever use. But I intend to make sure I have more than just a few weeks or months. I am making my first goal a year of supplies, ammunition and battery backup. And by then I’ll have my 2 year and 5 year goals written and I’ll start to make them happen. I have room for it all.
I’m hoping once I move that who I vote for and campaign for will get elected. Not like it is here. I’ll be surrounded by like minded people. I already see people getting out on the street corners waving flags and banners for Trump and Pro 2A (We became a sanctuary 2A county recently). Not that I am a Trump fanboy but I would rather be around people like that (Who all carry) than the BLM and rioters that are there to cause trouble and beat people up.
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Buttigieg is out. See ya Mayor Cheat!
I saw that today. Steyer is out as well. I’m wondering why Warren doesn’t drop out? I think Bloomberg is in for a rude awakening on Tuesday. It is quite clear it is between Bernie and Biden now.
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Can anyone explain why Tulsi is still campaigning when obviously she has no chance to even get close and is running out of money and donations?
From a pragmatic perspective, she's in a great position to run for Hawaii governor. Any campaign funds raised for the presidential race not spent this year can be used in subsequent campaigns. She may be padding her "war chest" for another campaign.
As for a VP pick, the only way I can see that happening is if Bernie is the nominee. All the others -- Biden, Bloomberg, Fauxcahontas, Amy -- are too much in the corporate warmonger's back pockets to pick her.
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Butti is out.
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Okay, rumor mill time. And none of this is able to be corroborated. The DNC is trying to talk HillDog and/or Michelle to come sweeping in to the nominations in the Spring/summer timeframe to save the party and beat DJT. Look for one of them to come in one their white horse and shining armor to save the day.
If it actually happens, you heard it here first. If it doesn’t. Never mind. :rofl:
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Okay, rumor mill time. And none of this is able to be corroborated. The DNC is trying to talk HillDog and/or Michelle to come sweeping in to the nominations in the Spring/summer timeframe to save the party and beat DJT. Look for one of them to come in one their white horse and shining armor to save the day.
If it actually happens, you heard it here first. If it doesn’t. Never mind. :rofl:
Sorry to burst your bubble, but we heard that rumor from Hildabeast almost every month or two since before the primaries began! :rofl:
She's been starting these rumors every time someone in the MSM asks if she's interested in running. "Never say never" is her way of staying relevant. She failed against Trump once already. Twice would drive her over the edge!
As for Moochele, she's said in no uncertain terms she has no interest in running for office.
https://www.newsweek.com/michelle-obama-president-conan-obrien-2020-podcast-1367509
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but we heard that rumor from Hildabeast almost every month or two since before the primaries began! :rofl:
She's been starting these rumors every time someone in the MSM asks if she's interested in running. "Never say never" is her way of staying relevant. She failed against Trump once already. Twice would drive her over the edge!
As for Moochele, she's said in no uncertain terms she has no interest in running for office.
https://www.newsweek.com/michelle-obama-president-conan-obrien-2020-podcast-1367509
Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is NOT the rumor.
Your rumor was that HillDog wanted to get back in the race. But it never happened because the DNC didn’t want her to. The rumor I read was that the DNC has switched course and is now ASKING her to do this dramatic come back. The rumor is not so much that she is going to make this big come back as much as the rumor is the DNC is courting her to do it now.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is NOT the rumor.
Your rumor was that HillDog wanted to get back in the race. But it never happened because the DNC didn’t want her to. The rumor I read was that the DNC has switched course and is now ASKING her to do this dramatic come back. The rumor is not so much that she is going to make this big come back as much as the rumor is the DNC is courting her to do it now.
No, same rumor. She always says, "many, many, many people have been asking me to run." She eludes to many people including the party leaders.
In actuality, after she blasted Bernie by saying nobody in Congress (DC?) likes him, some Dems in Congress came out of the woodwork to say Clinton needs to just go away.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/24/democrats-hillary-clinton-2020-056866
I think this rumor is yet another distraction from the fact that none of the Dems in the race have a realistic chance of winning, for one reason or another. Wishing for someone else -- ANYONE else -- to step in is their panic talking.
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No, same rumor. She always says, "many, many, many people have been asking me to run." She eludes to many people including the party leaders.
In actuality, after she blasted Bernie by saying nobody in Congress (DC?) likes him, some Dems in Congress came out of the woodwork to say Clinton needs to just go away.
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/24/democrats-hillary-clinton-2020-056866
I think this rumor is yet another distraction from the fact that none of the Dems in the race have a realistic chance of winning, for one reason or another. Wishing for someone else -- ANYONE else -- to step in is their panic talking.
Sorry, but I think the difference between Hillary making threats to get back into the race and the party not wanting her to and now the party is exploring having her get into the race is huge. In the first scenario, Hillary could never run because the party would not allow it. In the other scenario, the party is encouraging her to run. Big difference. But they are just rumors. So no use arguing over it.
The article I read, just rumor, also said that Michelle has been approached again since her statement that you posted. Could she change her mind?
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The article I read, just rumor, also said that Michelle has been approached again since her statement that you posted. Could she change her mind?
If that happens, I guarantee majority of Hawaii will vote for the Dem candidate. If it actually happens, you heard it here first. If it doesn’t. Never mind. :crazy: :rofl:
;D
SNIP
If it actually happens, you heard it here first. If it doesn’t. Never mind. :rofl:
Whoops, must still be delirious from this past weekend. Haha. But seriously, the number of people who idolize Obama simply because he's associated with Hawaii, went to Punahou, etc is :grrr:
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Senator Amy Klobuchar is out now, too.
Both she and Booty-Judge are going to endorse Biden.
The "fix" is in. Bernie is going to have to win the nomination outright with 1991 delegates to avoid a brokered/contested convention.
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/politics/amy-klobuchar-ends-2020-campaign/index.html
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Senator Amy Klobuchar is out now, too.
Both she and Booty-Judge are going to endorse Biden.
The "fix" is in. Bernie is going to have to win the nomination outright with 1991 delegates to avoid a brokered/contested convention.
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/politics/amy-klobuchar-ends-2020-campaign/index.html
Is it that obvious? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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https://twitter.com/realjameswoods/status/1234550620176015360?s=21
Enjoy!
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https://twitter.com/realjameswoods/status/1234550620176015360?s=21
Enjoy!
James Woods is the ONLY thing I miss about Twitter.
I get plenty of Trump's tweets from the media and YouTube, so not missing anything from the President.
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Joe Biden is now the youngest man in the Democrat primaries. :shake:
The top two "party of diversity's" candidates going into Super Tuesday are wealthy old White men -- ages 77 and 78.
:rofl:
https://youtu.be/L4ytSI4PFm4
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Okay, today is Super Tuesday. Is Bernie going to come out on top? How about Biden? This is the first Time Bloomberg can gain delegates. Is he going to take some away from Biden or is he going to beat Biden?
The experts have Bernie winning the most today. But not decisively. I think he is going to win decisively. He will be in big lead.
What say you?
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Okay, today is Super Tuesday. Is Bernie going to come out on top? How about Biden? This is the first Time Bloomberg can gain delegates. Is he going to take some away from Biden or is he going to beat Biden?
The experts have Bernie winning the most today. But not decisively. I think he is going to win decisively. He will be in big lead.
What say you?
Bernie will be the best thing that ever happened to America.
The beginning of the end of the Democrat party as we know it.
It will live on in Hawaii, but everybody knows there is something
bad in our water. I'm on catchment so know it isn't Florine.
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Okay, today is Super Tuesday. Is Bernie going to come out on top? How about Biden? This is the first Time Bloomberg can gain delegates. Is he going to take some away from Biden or is he going to beat Biden?
The experts have Bernie winning the most today. But not decisively. I think he is going to win decisively. He will be in big lead.
What say you?
Wait. I thought Joe was looking forward to Super Thursday?! :rofl:
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-mocks-biden-over-super-thursday-gaffe-during-north-carolina-rally-1490144
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Bernie will be the best thing that ever happened to America.
The beginning of the end of the Democrat party as we know it.
It will live on in Hawaii, but everybody knows there is something
bad in our water. I'm on catchment so know it isn't Florine.
Likewise if they screw Bernie over again it would be a very good thing for us. There is a large chunk of our local population who are fed up with the Dem establishment and a nationally publicized act of spineless fraud might make our sleeping electorate angry enough to show up in the polls in a way that makes a difference. Even if we do not end up with a lot of pro-gun candidates it will still make the Capitol Critters fearful enough that they will be forced to start listening and paying attention to where the next wave of populist rage is coming from.
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Per Fox News, results back so far show Biden with 165 and Sanders with 100 delegates. CA and TX results not in yet, where Sanders is expected to do well. Bloomberg not doing well at all so far. Tulsi has 1 delegate, lol.
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Per Fox News, results back so far show Biden with 165 and Sanders with 100 delegates. CA and TX results not in yet, where Sanders is expected to do well. Bloomberg not doing well at all so far. Tulsi has 1 delegate, lol.
I'm sure Tulsi is enjoying the poll returns, especially those states where she's trailing the three candidates who recently dropped out of the race!
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Too bad Andrew Yang wasn’t in it... I would love the $1000 per month Freedom dividends... :(
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Polls just closed. From what I saw so far, Sanders only had 51% in VT? His home state. And Butteg and Klobuchar still has more votes than Tulsi. Yeah, understand the timing of the dropouts, but still.
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And saw a scene of what appeared to be people interrupting Biden on stage. A younger woman stood up to shield Biden (not security) for the second one. 😳🤦🏻♂️ The whole while, Biden seemed like “duh, whut happenin’l
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The whole while, Biden seemed like “duh, whut happenin’l
What I gather from onlne stuff, that is par for his course.
Apparently called his sister his wife, and vice versa.
Sharp as a tack, that old geezer.
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I can't wait to see a debate between Biden and Trump.
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What I gather from onlne stuff, that is par for his course.
Apparently called his sister his wife, and vice versa.
Sharp as a tack, that old geezer.
Yeah. I’ve seen some pretty questionable behavior from him, and I’m not talking about his creepy factor.
He’s a 10 watt lightbulb. Not too bright :crazy:
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I can't wait to see a debate between Biden and Trump.
So it looks like Sanders won CA but they have not divided up the delegates yet. It remains to be seen as to who will be in the lead after today. Either way it should be close. Biden is certainly doing better than he looked after the firs 3 states. Because I’m predicting a brokered convention, Biden will get the super delegates he needs to win. In which cas you will get your wish. And I’m with you. Trump will wipe the floor with Biden, I think. Trump will make Biden (Or should I say Biden will make himself) look like a fool.
All of this is assuming Hill Dog or Michelle O doesn’t come in to save the day like the rumors that are flying. Trump vs Hill Dog or Michelle O? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Yeah. I’ve seen some pretty questionable behavior from him, and I’m not talking about his creepy factor.
He’s a 10 watt lightbulb. Not too bright :crazy:
Apparently the Democrats feel his questionable behavior is perfectly okay. He did really well today.
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Biden couldn't recite the preamble to the Declaration of Independence. And, you KNOW he had those lines on his teleprompter since they were presumably written into his speech.
He's lost it completely. Now he can't even plagiarize something as rudimentary as a historic US document, which is one of his career-long claims to fame: plagiarism.
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Biden couldn't recite the preamble to the Declaration of Independence. And, you KNOW he had those lines on his teleprompter since they were presumably written into his speech.
He's lost it completely. Now he can't even plagiarize something as rudimentary as a historic US document, which is one of his career-long claims to fame: plagiarism.
I forgot all about his plagiarism from the past! He got roasted for it and left the campaign as I remember.
I found this:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/joe-biden-plagiarism/
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Is it just me, or does anyone else find it hysterical that TV stations run episodes of Jeopardy! on election results nights?
Must be a subliminal message ... :shake:
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https://youtu.be/22j9HcEc2Kc
I've done some dumb things, and I'll do dumb things again.
-- Former VP, US Senator and Presidential Nominee Candidate Joe Biden
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Is it just me, or does anyone else find it hysterical that TV stations run episodes of Jeopardy! on election results nights?
Must be a subliminal message ... :shake:
or it's because they play Jeopardy! every weeknight
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Is it just me, or does anyone else find it hysterical that TV stations run episodes of Jeopardy! on election results nights?
Must be a subliminal message ... :shake:
...
It's more entertaining than watching intellectual wannabees trying to make some sense out of this election.
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I am surprised Butigeg dropped out considering he was doing so well in the early primaries.
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Wheel of Fortune contestants are smarter
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Heres how it will play out.
Top 3
Biden
Bernie
Bloom (damn all Bs)
Biden will drop out due to health issues. He called his daughter is wife today. Said super thursday and not super tuesday. Still sniffing children, i would be surprised if his socks match.
The dnc is broke. So bloom will pull a clinton and bail them out and get the nomination. Hes not spending all this money on commercials for no reason.
Funny to see black people on his commercials, guess they dont know about NYCs stop and frisk that targeted blacks.
Then Trump will crush mini mike.
Nooooooooooooooo (part 2)
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Damn i was wrong. Bloom deopped out this morn.
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Damn i was wrong. Bloom deopped out this morn.
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I didn’t think Bloomberg stood much of a chance. After his poor performance in the debates, it seemed like he lost a lot of momentum.
I am wrong as well. I thought Sanders would win more states and delegates and would be in a small lead in delegates over Biden. Right now Biden has 509 and Sanders has 458. Close. I look to a brokered convention where the super delegates will pick Biden or if Hill Dog/Michelle O sweeps in on their broom then they will pick one of those two instead. But it is just a rumor.
My prediction: Plugz for the win.
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Clinton & Obama for the win
"Chicks with Dicks- 2020"
Mine is a swinger, Hers is a swinging
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I for sure want this guy... just for entertainment value... both of him demonstrating his cognitive impairment every day and of seeing the folks with Trump Derangement Syndrome justifying Biden's obvious impairment.
https://youtu.be/tUxCTgyZ5PM
(https://i.imgur.com/KRB17YI.png)
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My prediction: Trump will be the younger of the two main Presidential candidates in the general.
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I for sure want this guy... just for entertainment value... both of him demonstrating his cognitive impairment every day and of seeing the folks with Trump Derangement Syndrome justifying Biden's obvious impairment.
https://youtu.be/tUxCTgyZ5PM
(https://i.imgur.com/KRB17YI.png)
I honestly don't know what is worse? Biden as our president, who is obviously infirm, or the people who vote for/support someone who is so obviously infirm.
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My prediction: Trump will be the younger of the two main Presidential candidates in the general.
You taking bets? I know someone who posts here dumb enough to put money against that. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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I honestly don't know what is worse? Biden as our president, who is obviously infirm, or the people who vote for/support someone who is so obviously infirm.
I own a donkey. I'm pretty sure he is much smarter than Democrats.
At least the ones I have met and talked to.
The cartoon offends me./s
The real problem is the voters/supporters. It's like blaming
Hitler, Mao, or Stalin, who did the crimes?
Cops and cops, and a few soldiers.
Never, ever, give up your guns or register them.
Buy a sailboat and go into business.
I read a CBS article the other day.
I think CBS is FOS but they listed Hawaii as the
10th highest per capita of gun ownership in
America. You Oahu guys are dangerous!
They are coming for you as they know your address.
Aloha.
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Didn't the DNC say that they're tired of old, white men winning? Guess they voted out their own minorities.
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Didn't the DNC say that they're tired of old, white men winning? Guess they voted out their own minorities.
Whatever they accuse others of, they are sure to be doing themselves.
It's hilarious to me when Booker and Harris quit the race, blaming "racism" and "mysogyny". Um, they were blaming DEMOCRATS for not supporting them in their PRIMARY CAMPAIGNS. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Didn't the DNC say that they're tired of old, white men winning? Guess they voted out their own minorities.
Heard “Squad No.2” fizzled Super Tues.
#metoo
#sheknew
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Whatever they accuse others of, they are sure to be doing themselves.
It's hilarious to me when Booker and Harris quit the race, blaming "racism" and "mysogyny". Um, they were blaming DEMOCRATS for not supporting them in their PRIMARY CAMPAIGNS. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
#immavictim
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What happens if biden wins the nom and drops out cause hes lossing his mind?
Does trump run unoppossed, or a do over? Or no president and the senate or something runs the show for the next 4 years?
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What happens if biden wins the nom and drops out cause hes lossing his mind?
Does trump run unoppossed, or a do over? Or no president and the senate or something runs the show for the next 4 years?
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It depends on the timing. There is a deadline to put someone on the Presidential ballot that's state-by-state. Those deadlines have passed.
If the party doesn't have a candidate due to a "drop out" situation, the opponent (assuming a 3rd party isn't viable) wins by default.
Remember, the states are not electing the president. They are voting for a slate of electors. There are rules if the general election has been already been completed. In that case, if the presidential candidate won enough state electoral votes, those votes would be cast for his VP running mate when the electoral college meets. The winner would then appoint a VP.
Watch out for whoever Joe tags as a running mate. :shake:
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Bloom didnt spend 500mil for a failed campaign, he paid the media 500mil-ish for keeping the anti trump stories spinning these past few years.
Had to find a way to pay out. Thinks brewsters millions, but he is losing the election.
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Bloom didnt spend 500mil for a failed campaign, he paid the media 500mil-ish for keeping the anti trump stories spinning these past few years.
Had to find a way to pay out. Thinks brewsters millions, but he is losing the election.
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Considering how the Dems keep looking for a Bloomberg, Hildabeast, or Moochele to come in at the last minute to save the day, "None of the above" seems to be a very viable alternative. :rofl:
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Considering how the Dems keep looking for a Bloomberg, Hildabeast, or Moochele to come in at the last minute to save the day, "None of the above" seems to be a very viable alternative. :rofl:
Pitiful, isn’t it? I’m guessing that Bernie still doesn’t realize the party and the media are against him. Let’s face it, Bernie is an outsider. He is not a Democrat. If the Democrat Party looks to the Republican Party as to what can happen to the party when an outsider takes over leadership of the party, then the Dems are panicked over a Bernie takeover. While I am not saying that Trump leading the Republican Party is a bad thing. It is just he disrupted everything. And business as usual is no longer the norm. And it is the best thing that ever happened to the party IMHO. But if you look at the disruption Trump caused as an outsider to the Republican Party and if you are lifetime political hack, then a Bernie leadership looks to be a death knoll. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Pocahontas has left the building :rofl:
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Looks like Pocahontas is out. The fact that she is not endorsing anyone says to me that she is holding out for a deal. Let’s face it, she aligns with Bernie and not Biden. So if there is no deal being negotiated then why not endorse Bernie right off? She is looking to get as much $ as she can to endorse Biden. Which is the person she would never endorse as long as Bernie is in the running. I’m sure Bloomberg’s money is going a long way in the Dem party. :wacko:
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Pitiful, isn’t it? I’m guessing that Bernie still doesn’t realize the party and the media are against him. Let’s face it, Bernie is an outsider. He is not a Democrat. If the Democrat Party looks to the Republican Party as to what can happen to the party when an outsider takes over leadership of the party, then the Dems are panicked over a Bernie takeover. While I am not saying that Trump leading the Republican Party is a bad thing. It is just he disrupted everything. And business as usual is no longer the norm. And it is the best thing that ever happened to the party IMHO. But if you look at the disruption Trump caused as an outsider to the Republican Party and if you are lifetime political hack, then a Bernie leadership looks to be a death knoll. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Bernie knows, but he's too weak and spineless to fight back -- just like 2016.
He had the primary rules changed after his last defeat to count the committed delegates on the first ballot at the convention and exclude the super delegates. Only if they go to a second ballot due to nobody getting a majority would the super delegates vote. The super delegates voted for Clinton, giving her the win. In case anyone isn't aware, super delegates are party "leaders" -- former Presidents, Congress members, Governors, major big donors to the party, and so on. They are not required to name the candidate they support until voting happens at the convention. Therefore, lots of horse trading and deals are made at the convention if the committed delegates are split.
This time around, he's calling for another rule change in the middle of the campaign: if nobody has a majority of delegates excluding super delegates (his rule) going into the convention, the candidate with a plurality, not majority, of popular votes gets the nomination.
He wants to change the rules to favor his own position as the outcome moves closer to realization.
This is his idea of Democracy? Is this how his concept of Democratic Socialism would work? "We know the people have spoken, but we decided to only count the votes of those who aren't insane. If you have a different opinion than Bernie Sanders, you must be insane."
Right. I'm not shocked the Liberals are against Bernie and his far Left radical followers.
I think Bernie will drop out of the race after next Tuesday, when it's certain that Biden will be nominated. Right now, he's negotiating for a second "Summer camp" in a warmer climate. :rofl:
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Pocahontas has left the building :rofl:
Poor Liz.
This is the second time in just over a year she's had to leave a race.
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This just in .....
Tulsi Gabbard is is now in third place!!
Woo hoo!!! That 1 delegate she won is all it took..... That, and 4 other candidates dropping out.
Since the 1st and 2nd place candidates are 77 & 78, and one just had a major heart attack, the primary might turn into a battle of attrition. :rofl:
:thumbsup: Go Tulsi!! :thumbsup:
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Bernie knows, but he's too weak and spineless to fight back -- just like 2016.
I think Bernie will drop out of the race after next Tuesday, when it's certain that Biden will be nominated. Right now, he's negotiating for a second "Summer camp" in a warmer climate. :rofl:
Wow, that’s a new one on me. I have not heard that about Bernie. I keep thinking he is delusional and thinks he can win the nomination and will stay in til the end. You think it will all be over by next Tuesday?
If he really is negotiating for a summer camp he is doing himself a disservice. He should be negotiating for a mansion. :rofl:
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Wow, that’s a new one on me. I have not heard that about Bernie. I keep thinking he is delusional and thinks he can win the nomination and will stay in til the end. You think it will all be over by next Tuesday?
If he really is negotiating for a summer camp he is doing himself a disservice. He should be negotiating for a mansion. :rofl:
He bent the knee to Hillary and endorsed her, even though it was obvious she and the DNC literally cheated to beat him.
I think he was offered compensation for his endorsement. Since he isn't a real Democrat, he had no party loyalty to push him into supporting her.
Yeah, same Bernie, different race. He's turned this into a money making endeavor, though he's not the first.
His first "Summer camp" isn't too shabby.
(https://i.imgur.com/0Ix7bmS.jpg?1)
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This just in .....
Tulsi Gabbard is is now in third place!!
Woo hoo!!! That 1 delegate she won is all it took..... That, and 4 other candidates dropping out.
Since the 1st and 2nd place candidates are 77 & 78, and one just had a major heart attack, the primary might turn into a battle of attrition. :rofl:
:thumbsup: Go Tulsi!! :thumbsup:
It would be ideal if Trump could fill a couple more supreme court seats first to make sure she could not resurrect the AWB, but other than that I would not mind a Tulsi presidency
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This just in .....
Tulsi Gabbard is is now in third place!!
Woo hoo!!! That 1 delegate she won is all it took..... That, and 4 other candidates dropping out.
Since the 1st and 2nd place candidates are 77 & 78, and one just had a major heart attack, the primary might turn into a battle of attrition. :rofl:
:thumbsup: Go Tulsi!! :thumbsup:
3D chess, she holding out to become 2nd place. Then once crazy joe looses his mind or Bernie falls down or something, she wins by default.
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This just in .....
Tulsi Gabbard is is now in third place!!
Woo hoo!!! That 1 delegate she won is all it took..... That, and 4 other candidates dropping out.
Since the 1st and 2nd place candidates are 77 & 78, and one just had a major heart attack, the primary might turn into a battle of attrition. :rofl:
:thumbsup: Go Tulsi!! :thumbsup:
Being black balled from the rest of the debates was the best thing for her. While the others slit each others throats and made themselves look like clowns, she just had to sit back and ride right on in... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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He bent the knee to Hillary and endorsed her, even though it was obvious she and the DNC literally cheated to beat him.
I think he was offered compensation for his endorsement. Since he isn't a real Democrat, he had no party loyalty to push him into supporting her.
Yeah, same Bernie, different race. He's turned this into a money making endeavor, though he's not the first.
His first "Summer camp" isn't too shabby.
Taking into consideration Bernie’s heart attack and his current lack of transparency with his medical records after his heart attack what you are saying about his negotiating behind the scenes for a deal from the DNC which I’m sure is being bankrolled by Bloomberg. Why would he want to continue campaigning when the results have already been predetermined and he will probably become incapable or die while in office. Take the millions and retire. I guess we’ll have to wait and see for Tuesday.
Based on your prediction it seems to me the DNC is using the Super Delegates as a threat/tool to convince Bernie to drop out. This, in a way, goes along with my first post where I felt that the race will be close and the super delegates would side with Biden giving him the nomination.
Can you imagine the let down of the Bernie Snowflakes if he drops out? I predict massive flooding from all the tears... :rofl:
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I assume everyone here knows that Biden announced that Robert Francis O'Rourke would be his "gun czar" should Biden be elected president. O'Rourke famously said "Hell yes, we're going to take your AK 47s and your AR 15s!" when asked what would happen to the people who refused to "voluntarily" turn over their "assault weapons" to the government after a ban was instituted. Good times ahead!
Here is John Lott's article at National Review:
Biden, Beto, and Gun Control
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/03/gun-control-joe-biden-beto-orourke-want-to-take-your-firearms/
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Excerpt from a column today at American Thinker:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/unfortunately_the_answer_is_hillary.html
Who has the connections within the Democrat Party establishment to orchestrate in only 24 hours before Super Tuesday the surprise exit of Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobachar? Who has the power to persuade these candidates to endorse Joe Biden?
Answer: Hillary.
Whom will Joe Biden endorse, by design, on the eve of the Democrat Party Convention when he announces that, on advice his wife and doctors, he will not pursue the Democrat Party nomination?
Answer: Hillary.
After having watched Joe Biden's further descent into senility and confusion between March and July, who will relieved Democrats, women especially, embrace as their tried and true candidate?
Answer: Hillary.
And who, by design, will name as her vice president a fellow with the last name of Bloomberg who just happens to be waiting in the wings with his nationwide campaign offices open and with full staff on salary and billions in cash?
Answer: Hillary.
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Excerpt from a column today at American Thinker:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/unfortunately_the_answer_is_hillary.html
Who has the connections within the Democrat Party establishment to orchestrate in only 24 hours before Super Tuesday the surprise exit of Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobachar? Who has the power to persuade these candidates to endorse Joe Biden?
Answer: Hillary.
Whom will Joe Biden endorse, by design, on the eve of the Democrat Party Convention when he announces that, on advice his wife and doctors, he will not pursue the Democrat Party nomination?
Answer: Hillary.
After having watched Joe Biden's further descent into senility and confusion between March and July, who will relieved Democrats, women especially, embrace as their tried and true candidate?
Answer: Hillary.
And who, by design, will name as her vice president a fellow with the last name of Bloomberg who just happens to be waiting in the wings with his nationwide campaign offices open and with full staff on salary and billions in cash?
Answer: Hillary.
Bloomberg has already promised to use his vast network and wealth to support WHOEVER the party nominates. No need to give him the VP office to get anything out of him.
If Hildebeast strolls into the nomination at the last minute, my predictions for VP would be:
(1) Bernie Sanders, to create a coalition between the split vote from 2016 ("Bernie or Bust" voters refused to vote for her), or
(2) Slick Willy. He's in the news this week over a new book he published. Coincidence? 8)
Bill would bring the lifelong Dems back into the fold, after the radicals have spent recent years edging them out.
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Today is Bernie’s mini Super Tuesday. I don’t think he’ll take Michigan but he needs to in order to stay alive.
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Today is Bernie’s mini Super Tuesday. I don’t think he’ll take Michigan but he needs to in order to stay alive.
Spartacus was on NPR this morning on why he is backing Bernie. He’s actually on the road with Bernie this week. He said “Joe has the best chance to repair the damage being done to this country under Trump” (or something like that). I was like, damage being done now?!?
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Now Biden is coming after our AR-14s!
https://www.mediaite.com/news/youre-full-of-sht-joe-biden-argues-with-voter-who-accused-him-of-trying-to-take-away-guns/
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Now Biden is coming after our AR-14s!
https://www.mediaite.com/news/youre-full-of-sht-joe-biden-argues-with-voter-who-accused-him-of-trying-to-take-away-guns/
As long as he leaves my AK-57 alone ....
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Today is Bernie’s mini Super Tuesday. I don’t think he’ll take Michigan but he needs to in order to stay alive.
Bernie won Michigan in 2016. Of course, this time, he's not running against that absolute horror of a human being -- you know who!
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Bernie won Michigan in 2016. Of course, this time, he's not running against that absolute horror of a human being -- you know who!
HillDog!!!
They are calling Michigan for Biden already. So, Bernie is toast. I think he is going to stay in for a while longer. Not sure if he’ll stay all the way to the convention or not? But you said he is going to quit today? I’d be surprised if he quit this week. Even he has to see no path to the convention.
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HillDog!!!
They are calling Michigan for Biden already. So, Bernie is toast. I think he is going to stay in for a while longer. Not sure if he’ll stay all the way to the convention or not? But you said he is going to quit today? I’d be surprised if he quit this week. Even he has to see no path to the convention.
So when can we expect the revolution from the "Feel the Bern" types? ??? :shake: :rofl: :sleeping: I actually know a few in Hawaii. One attended the Dem National Convention in 2016 for Bernie. . .
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Biden. . . :facepalm:
How people think we would make a good POTUS is :facepalm: Then again, we have some here that believe. . . nevermind. I don't want to trigger them and then have pages of pages of emotional and irrational ranting. . .
But seriously, I was listening to analysis that Biden is primarily getting support because of Obama's popularity. How people still see Obama as some deity that was great for America is baffling to me.
In any case, it will be an interesting next many months.
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Was just listening to Biden’s speech from PA. It was seemingly prepared with talking points. Even then, it seemed like he was having trouble getting some things out as well a speech seemed slurred at times. 😳
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Biden. . . :facepalm:
How people think we would make a good POTUS is :facepalm: Then again, we have some here that believe. . . nevermind. I don't want to trigger them and then have pages of pages of emotional and irrational ranting. . .
But seriously, I was listening to analysis that Biden is primarily getting support because of Obama's popularity. How people still see Obama as some deity that was great for America is baffling to me.
In any case, it will be an interesting next many months.
Cause hes black.
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Cause hes black.
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Trump was elected because
(a) he beat a YUUGE field of contenders for the nomination,
(b) the Dems were stupid enough to nominate Hildabeast, and
(c) it was a rejection of Obama's policies and record (Hilldog was advertised by everyone as "Obama 2.0 in a pants suit").
Given that, I doubt trying to ride Obama's legacy to victory will work out any differently for Crazy Joe. :crazy:
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So when can we expect the revolution from the "Feel the Bern" types? ??? :shake: :rofl: :sleeping: I actually know a few in Hawaii. One attended the Dem National Convention in 2016 for Bernie. . .
I was expecting them to show up too but looks like he blew it last time he backed down and kissed Hillary’s ring like a whipped dog. The kids are not going to follow the pied piper off that cliff again.
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Senator Clyburn (who just happens to be a Biden endorser) calls for the end of all further primaries and debates.
Gee I wonder why?
And what excuse will they come up with to cancel the debates with Trump and any public speaking appearances by Biden?
https://twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/1237553168529027074 (https://twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/1237553168529027074)
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I was expecting them to show up too but looks like he blew it last time he backed down and kissed Hillary’s ring like a whipped dog. The kids are not going to follow the pied piper off that cliff again.
Me too. This was being discussed on NPR this morning on the sort of changes in tides observed (at least so far) between 2016 and 2020. Some things they where guessing were:
1) Some of Bernie's support was primarily anti-HRC. Seems like the anti-woman president was what was the guess for Michigan. They had other reasons for other states, but I don't remember.
2) Overall Dem voter numbers up, so maybe the anti-Berns were mobilized. Sick of the movement toward a Bernie Radical Socialist Republic.
3) Something about some of the demographics that went out in numbers for Bernie in 2016 seems to have either shifted or were disallusioned. I think they mentioned the 18-26 non-college attending or graduate group.
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So Bernie says he is going to continue. For how long, I don’t know? If he loses big again in the next set of primaries I think he will give up. My original prediction was the race was going to be closer and it would go to the convention where Bernie would lose to the super delegates.
Tulsi is still in it. They changed the debate rules again to leave her out. She should just melt away gracefully.
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So Bernie says he is going to continue. For how long, I don’t know? If he loses big again in the next set of primaries I think he will give up. My original prediction was the race was going to be closer and it would go to the convention where Bernie would lose to the super delegates.
Tulsi is still in it. They changed the debate rules again to leave her out. She should just melt away gracefully.
He and Tulsi are both hoping Biden implodes before the convention. It's possible the Hunter-Ukraine-China stuff gets too hot for Joe, and he has to withdraw knowing he can never win with that albatross around his neck. Then again, winning may be his only hope of putting the lid back on that can of worms.
Of course, Joe could "lose it" altogether, and the DNC may decide they have no choice but to pass him over in spite of the primary results.
In Tulsi's case, she's hoping if Biden fumbles, Bernie may still be passed over by the party again, setting her up as the lone not-a-Socialist candidate. Will the party nominate her over someone who didn't run in the primary? Maybe they would pick someone who did run but dropped out?
The party can nominate anybody they wish, as long as the majority of delegates agree to it. If the Super Delegates get together and decide on a name, the other delegates would have a tough time fighting it.
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Remember, Tulsi's still in this, officially, and
pandering proposing real world realistic policy positions for votes.
Here she is advocating a "Universal Basic Income" payment of $1,000 per month to every adult American (citizen?) to assist with the issues created by the "virus".
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6141133100001#sp=show-clips
Do I have to sign up somewhere, or will it just automatically appear in my mailbox or bank account?
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Remember, Tulsi's still in this, officially, and pandering proposing real world realistic policy positions for votes.
Here she is advocating a "Universal Basic Income" payment of $1,000 per month to every adult American (citizen?) to assist with the issues created by the "virus".
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6141133100001#sp=show-clips
Do I have to sign up somewhere, or will it just automatically appear in my mailbox or bank account?
You have to suck on the government teet to get it. 😂
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Biden.
Good chance Killary will be named as his VP choice. { He's declared for a female VP }
He will then die from "Carona Virus", or some other easily explainable malady. { Should they manage to manipulate the election in their favor }
Leaving Killary in the position she's always coveted.
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Biden.
Good chance Killary will be named as his VP choice. { He's declared for a female VP }
He will then die from "Carona Virus", or some other easily explainable malady. { Should they manage to manipulate the election in their favor }
Leaving Killary in the position she's always coveted.
It's against federal law to give hiring preference based on sex.
Every male who was considered and passed over should sue for illegal discrimination -- assuming Sleepy Joe ever has that decision to make.
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With the many, many cringe-worthy, touchy-feely situations Creepy Joe has been observed initiating, I think he really can't help himself! Having a woman as his VP would surprise no one.
"Hey, VP Gal! You look tense. Come over here, and I'll treat you to one of my world-famous shoulder rubs!" :shake:
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Well, it’s now just a 2 person race. Bernie just announced he is suspending his campaign.
So who do you think it is going to be? Joe Biden or Tulsi Gabbard? :rofl:
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Well, it’s now just a 2 person race. Bernie just announced he is suspending his campaign.
So who do you think it is going to be? Joe Biden or Tulsi Gabbard? :rofl:
Tulsi, over Joe's dead body... especially if some guy 1/3 his age takes him up on one of his offers to "go outside"... :shaka:
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Well, it’s now just a 2 person race. Bernie just announced he is suspending his campaign.
So who do you think it is going to be? Joe Biden or Tulsi Gabbard? :rofl:
Nope he's back after winning Commifornia
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Well, it’s now just a 2 person race. Bernie just announced he is suspending his campaign.
So who do you think it is going to be? Joe Biden or Tulsi Gabbard? :rofl:
Bernie said he's "reassessing" his campaign, but NOT suspending at this time.
AXIOS apologized for reporting he suspended -- fake news is real!
https://www.foxnews.com/media/axios-correction-bernie-sanders-suspends-campaign
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Bernie said he's "reassessing" his campaign, but NOT suspending at this time.
AXIOS apologized for reporting he suspended -- fake news is real!
https://www.foxnews.com/media/axios-correction-bernie-sanders-suspends-campaign
I actually got that from Fox News this morning. :rofl:
They didn’t mention that it came from Axios. So it was even more fake news! :rofl:
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Fake FAKE news
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I actually got that from Fox News this morning. :rofl:
They didn’t mention that it came from Axios. So it was even more fake news! :rofl:
We live in a time of needing to be first with a story, and if not first, at least not last.
The news agencies trust other news agencies to verify their facts unless that agency has been caught telling major lies on major stories.
Even the best make mistakes. I can't see MSNBC or CNN apologizing for getting a story wrong. If they did, it'll eat up 2/3 of their online posts!
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Tulsi finally quit. Endorses Biden.
I almost threw up several times trying to watch her to the end of the 4 minutes. Does anybody really buy the bullshit she's slinging? Good grief.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/tulsi-gabbard-just-quit/
https://youtu.be/iPklvZ-Q36s (https://youtu.be/iPklvZ-Q36s)
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Tulsi finally quit. Endorses Biden.
I almost threw up several times trying to watch her to the end of the 4 minutes. Does anybody really buy the bullshit she's slinging? Good grief.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/tulsi-gabbard-just-quit/
https://youtu.be/iPklvZ-Q36s (https://youtu.be/iPklvZ-Q36s)
The people that elect her!
Hawaii is full of idiots except for a very few of us.
I have 6 months worth of TP which is my normal stash.
a Lifetime of food is in the paddocks.
My problem is that I haven't figured out how to
legally obliterate our local Democrat infection.
Perhaps this latest flu infection will do it for us.
I won't miss them.
As Ren says I'm a little rough around the edges.
Born and raised in SE LA.
South East Los Angeles.
County. My Step mother graduated from
Compton High school.
I'm one of your neighbors.
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Aaccording to Tulsi's brother she tried to endorse Bernie, but he refused to accept it. She then goes on to say how great Sanders is, and how great Biden will be as president. Just sayin'... bullshit.
(https://i.imgur.com/xA5PPoU.png)
Full (very brief) article:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/19/tulsi-gabbard-suspends-campaign-endorses-joe-biden-report-bernie-refused-endorsement/
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Creepy Joe would enjoy having Tulsi as vp. :D
Much better than Hillary.
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Creepy Joe would enjoy having Tulsi as vp. :D
Much better than Hillary.
If that were to happen, they should avoid having HRC back as Secretary of State, or other high position. Will start seeing a series of unfortunate suicides. . .
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She was not in a position of power when Epstein got suicided. The Clinton foundation coffers are empty, but she can still gangsta
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She was not in a position of power when Epstein got suicided. The Clinton foundation coffers are empty, but she can still gangsta
I was more thinking line of succession, with Sec of State being #4 or 5 ish.
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It wasn't just me who saw Tulsi as full of shit for her Biden endorsement...
https://babylonbee.com/news/joe-biden-is-the-best-choice-for-our-nation-says-tulsi-gabbard-as-dnc-completes-assimilation-process
'Joe Biden Is The Best Choice For Our Nation,' Chants Tulsi Gabbard After DNC Completes Assimilation Process
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WASHINGTON, D.C.—The DNC Collective has assimilated yet another species, the Borg King Joe Biden proudly announced Thursday morning.
Species 10027, Tulsi Gabbard, was successfully injected with nanoprobes and assimilated into the Borg's campaign, according to Biden's statement. Gabbard quickly lost all principles and independent thought and began tirelessly working to further the purposes of the mysterious Borg species, sources inside the Borg Cube indicated.
"We will add your biological and political distinctiveness to our own," the Borg King told Gabbard in a speech celebrating the acquisition of her body into the Borg Collective. "Your campaign will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile." The crowd of gathered Borg erupted in drone-like applause to indicate their approval of the new addition.
"Joe Biden is the best choice for our nation," she said dutifully as soon as the process was complete. "There are five lights. War is good. Biden is good."
Gabbard—or Species 10027, as she is now known—was spotted shortly afterward distributing campaign buttons for the Borg King, who sneered at his new prize, "Human. We used to be exactly like them. Flawed, weak, organic. But we evolved."
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The primary is over. One good thing Coronavirus did for us.
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I got an announcement about an emergency town hall from Ed Case and he won’t even mention Tulsi’s name event though they did it together. He referred to her only as his colleague. She is now a political untouchable, but that could change as the Democrats stick to their Suck and Fail agenda. Americans love a good underdog story almost as much as we despise sore losers.
Speaking of which Joe Biden plans to ride out the next few months at home releasing videos that take potshots at the president’s response to the national emergency. Anything can happen but looks more and more like Trump will cruise into a second term.
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Looks like Trump is now running unopposed .... :rofl:
Why now?
Sanders’ abrupt dropout came ahead of
more bad news likely for campaign
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sanders-abrupt-dropout-bad-news-for-campaign
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Looks like Trump is now running unopposed .... :rofl:
Why now?
Sanders’ abrupt dropout came ahead of
more bad news likely for campaign
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sanders-abrupt-dropout-bad-news-for-campaign
"It isn't over till the fat lady sings"
Never underestimate Democrats.
CV19, virtual Convention vote, and ?
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"It isn't over till the fat lady sings"
Never underestimate Democrats.
CV19, virtual Convention vote, and ?
Sleepy Joe can't even string half a dozen words together in a coherent sentence -- even when he's reading them on a prompter.
His first podcast was a total disaster. This was his second, and it wasn't much better.
At least Trump figured out how to use Social Media to his advantage. :rofl:
If the incompetence exhibited in the Democrat primaries (how hard is it to count people standing in a corner?) and his two abysmal podcast episodes are what we have to look forward to from a Biden administration as it tries to continue the fight against a pandemic and clean up the economic disaster left in its wake, I don't think there's any doubt that a Trump landslide is inevitable.
The 2016 "Bernie or Bust" motto was changed this year to "Bernie or Nothing". The die hard Bernie supporters are threatening to either vote for Trump, a write-in of their choice (Bernie) or skip voting altogether. Some are even threatening to cause havoc at the convention.
The only way Biden makes any points in a debate with Trump is if Trump feels pity for him and refuses to beat up on him for fear it makes him look merciless. Otherwise, just stick a fork in him. Joe's done before he even gets started.
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Here's a sample of the Biden Social Media team on Twitter, talking about snack foods while people are worried about their jobs and maybe dying from a disease ...
(https://i.imgur.com/pzKx0LP.png)
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1247540886885543936
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Hmmm. Watched a little of the Trump presser today, and he mentioned Bernie hasn't officially dropped out of the race, which Trump called "a weird deal."
Bernie not only is keeping his delegates, but he said he'd like to GET MORE before the convention.
Sounds like he want's to hold the nomination process hostage to get some sort of deal for himself if Biden wins the general. Then again, maybe he wants another, better "Summer Camp"? :rofl:
I'm not sure about his statement that he wants to exert "significant influence over the party platform". He's trying to further hijack the Democrat Party OF WHICH HE'S NOT EVEN A MEMBER!!
Biden would be ill advised to adopt the far left, progressive, socialist, bigger government type of platform issues if he doesn't want to totally alienate the moderates in the party.
Bernie Sanders vows to stay on upcoming ballots
and continue to gather delegates so he can
'exert significant influence over the party platform'
https://www.businessinsider.com/sanders-will-continue-gathering-delegates-to-influence-dnc-platform-2020-4
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Now the question is who is going to be his VP. He pretty much painted himself into a corner when he foolishly said he will select a woman.
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Now the question is who is going to be his VP. He pretty much painted himself into a corner when he foolishly said he will select a woman.
All depends .... on what gender the selectee identifies as!
In an age of Liberal madness that teaches us "gender is a social construct," and that "all genders are equal," how can the same people clamor for a WOMAN to be President or VP?
The illogical logic of the looney left!
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Next thing you know Tulsi comes back and says she never dropped out. April Fools! :rofl:
Isn’t this just like the Democrat Party? Bernie’s out, but not really. Trump’s a racist for closing the borders because of the virus. Now he didn’t close them soon enough. :wtf:
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Burnee not dropping out cuz Old Joe just might not make it more than a few months more with out literally drooling on himself during an interview or be found at the local mall butt naked in the fountain. :sleeping:
Even if he does last that long, he will get eaten alive at the first debate and the dems may have no choice but to pull him. :o
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Biden Losing It:
Two Video Clips That Should Pull Good Old Joe from the Race
https://youtu.be/b7mT5z5ZbiE