Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View (Read 4157 times)

eyeeatingfish

Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« on: October 21, 2021, 08:56:45 PM »
Another good video by this doctor. This one is about the division, the two extreme sides of the covid issue.

macsak

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2021, 09:07:14 PM »
i love how he describes himself as "alt-middle", then labels one side "idiots"
it would be irritating to be around someone like that...

Another good video by this doctor. This one is about the division, the two extreme sides of the covid issue.


eyeeatingfish

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2021, 09:28:00 PM »
i love how he describes himself as "alt-middle", then labels one side "idiots"
it would be irritating to be around someone like that...

The term covidiot existed well before this guy made a video about it. In some manner he has called people from both extremes idiots. (Makese perfect sense for someone alt-middle)

If you watch more of his videos you will see that he is equally critical of both sides of this issue.

hvybarrels

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2021, 11:43:36 PM »
The term covidiot existed well before this guy made a video about it. In some manner he has called people from both extremes idiots. (Makese perfect sense for someone alt-middle)

If you watch more of his videos you will see that he is equally critical of both sides of this issue.

No he’s not. He’s a slimy smear artist using weasel words and repeating mindless slogans supported by cherry picked evidence.

Anyone who tries to give a nuanced take that doesn’t kowtow to the deep state agenda is immediately cancelled banned from every big tech platform.

They have to censor people because the false reality they are trying to sell is so ridiculous that it falls apart under the slightest scrutiny
“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

macsak

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2021, 05:27:51 AM »
The term covidiot existed well before this guy made a video about it. In some manner he has called people from both extremes idiots. (Makese perfect sense for someone alt-middle)

If you watch more of his videos you will see that he is equally critical of both sides of this issue.

please show me where i said i haven't watched more of his videos...

eyeeatingfish

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2021, 09:44:29 PM »
No he’s not. He’s a slimy smear artist using weasel words and repeating mindless slogans supported by cherry picked evidence.

Anyone who tries to give a nuanced take that doesn’t kowtow to the deep state agenda is immediately cancelled banned from every big tech platform.

They have to censor people because the false reality they are trying to sell is so ridiculous that it falls apart under the slightest scrutiny

A smear artist? Clearly you haven't seen many of his videos. He has criticized lockdowns, he has criticized school closures, he has criticized various mandates multiple times. He has defended the vaccine hesitant crowd multiple times on multiple levels. He has also criticized the crazy anti vaccine people as well, and you know why? Because he is objective enough to see past the idiots on both extremes. You talk about nuance, this is a guy who goes into the nuance, who sees behind the tribalism.

Yet he hasn't been cancelled.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2021, 09:46:06 PM »
please show me where i said i haven't watched more of his videos...

I didn't say you haven't seen any of his other videos.

I said if you watch more you will see he is critical of both sides.

macsak

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2021, 09:57:04 PM »
I didn't say you haven't seen any of his other videos.

I said if you watch more you will see he is critical of both sides.

where did i say i haven't watched more of his videos?

in your effort to constantly mansplain everything, you ignore the fact that someone may have been watching his videos since late may 2020
but hey, you do you...

hvybarrels

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2021, 12:03:27 AM »
A smear artist? Clearly you haven't seen many of his videos. He has criticized lockdowns, he has criticized school closures, he has criticized various mandates multiple times. He has defended the vaccine hesitant crowd multiple times on multiple levels. He has also criticized the crazy anti vaccine people as well, and you know why? Because he is objective enough to see past the idiots on both extremes. You talk about nuance, this is a guy who goes into the nuance, who sees behind the tribalism.

Yet he hasn't been cancelled.

Just for you I watched part of the video you posted. You are right his tone has changed, most likely because the other videos where he insults and gaslights the hell out of anyone who disagrees with him got radioed and he's at least bright enough to tell that the wind as switched directions so now he is backpedalling like a spineless coward.

That said the gaslighting continues, setting himself up as the arbiter of truth and everyone who is reasonable must meet in a middle ground that he decides otherwise they are an unhinged extremist lunatic.

No evidence reviewed, just his opinions which of course lead off into the "everything's fine" territory. Nice and safe for youtube.

I got to the part where he said "Everything on Rumble should be deleted" and called it quits. That's an outright admission to being an anti-science propagandist who thinks the first amendment is antiquated and disposable.

There is no pandemic exception to the constitution, and they had a nasty pandemic when it was written.



“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

Inspector

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2021, 05:02:28 AM »
Just for you I watched part of the video you posted. You are right his tone has changed, most likely because the other videos where he insults and gaslights the hell out of anyone who disagrees with him got radioed and he's at least bright enough to tell that the wind as switched directions so now he is backpedalling like a spineless coward.

That said the gaslighting continues, setting himself up as the arbiter of truth and everyone who is reasonable must meet in a middle ground that he decides otherwise they are an unhinged extremist lunatic.

No evidence reviewed, just his opinions which of course lead off into the "everything's fine" territory. Nice and safe for youtube.

I got to the part where he said "Everything on Rumble should be deleted" and called it quits. That's an outright admission to being an anti-science propagandist who thinks the first amendment is antiquated and disposable.

There is no pandemic exception to the constitution, and they had a nasty pandemic when it was written.
I have not watched any of this guys videos. I guess I am not open minded enough.  :rofl:

I have been a big supporter of Rumble since its inception. They allow anyone to post their videos except for porn and illegal type of stuff. If anyone says anything prejudicial of Rumble it is either because they want to post porn, illegal content or they are prejudicial themselves. If what you said is true about what he said about Rumble I won’t take the leap and try watching them.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

eyeeatingfish

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2021, 12:04:42 AM »
where did i say i haven't watched more of his videos?

in your effort to constantly mansplain everything, you ignore the fact that someone may have been watching his videos since late may 2020
but hey, you do you...

I took your comment to be saying that you didn't think he was being fair because he called some idiots so I was saying that if you watched his videos it should be evident that he is is fair to both sides. Perhaps I misunderstood your comment. What did you mean when you brought up the issue of him calling some idiots while also calling himself alt-middle?

eyeeatingfish

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2021, 12:17:16 AM »
Just for you I watched part of the video you posted. You are right his tone has changed, most likely because the other videos where he insults and gaslights the hell out of anyone who disagrees with him got radioed and he's at least bright enough to tell that the wind as switched directions so now he is backpedalling like a spineless coward.

That said the gaslighting continues, setting himself up as the arbiter of truth and everyone who is reasonable must meet in a middle ground that he decides otherwise they are an unhinged extremist lunatic.

No evidence reviewed, just his opinions which of course lead off into the "everything's fine" territory. Nice and safe for youtube.

I got to the part where he said "Everything on Rumble should be deleted" and called it quits. That's an outright admission to being an anti-science propagandist who thinks the first amendment is antiquated and disposable.

There is no pandemic exception to the constitution, and they had a nasty pandemic when it was written.

I have been watching this guys videos regularly for well over 6 months and he has consistently been critical of various decisions by the government to force lockdowns, to force vaccinations, and sometimes to force masks. He has stated he recommends adults get the vaccine but has also said he understands and supports the decisions of people who don't want to get the vaccine. I see no backpedaling that you speak of. He definitely doesn't present himself as the arbiter of truth, in fact he routinely admits when he has a confirmation bias tugging at him and he routinely acknowledges when he is not an expert in a particular area or when something comes up he doesn't know the answer to.

I went back and listened to the part you mentioned on the Rumble comment and I think you are blowing it out of proportion. I don't think he was suggesting that the conspiracy theory should be silenced, I think he was saying it is rubbish and a waste of space.

macsak

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2021, 06:15:20 AM »
I took your comment to be saying that you didn't think he was being fair because he called some idiots so I was saying that if you watched his videos it should be evident that he is is fair to both sides. Perhaps I misunderstood your comment. What did you mean when you brought up the issue of him calling some idiots while also calling himself alt-middle?

so you can make up hypothetical, BS arguments for something you don't believe in, but i cannot?
hypocrite much?

hvybarrels

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2021, 06:47:42 AM »
I went back and listened to the part you mentioned on the Rumble comment and I think you are blowing it out of proportion. I don't think he was suggesting that the conspiracy theory should be silenced, I think he was saying it is rubbish and a waste of space.

That’s not what he said. He said he would delete everything on Rumble.

You’re not very good at explaining things
“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

eyeeatingfish

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2021, 10:07:09 PM »
so you can make up hypothetical, BS arguments for something you don't believe in, but i cannot?
hypocrite much?

I don't make up BS arguments. Hypothetical yes, BS, No. Plus how was your comment a hypothetical?

I said that perhaps I misunderstood your comment and I was asking for clarification, trying to clear up any confusion here

eyeeatingfish

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2021, 10:10:09 PM »
That’s not what he said. He said he would delete everything on Rumble.

You’re not very good at explaining things

Maybe you should quote things accurately before complaining about my explanations.

8 minutes 2 seconds he said
"and anything on Rumble probably should just be deleted."

He didn't say he would delete everything on rumble.

hvybarrels

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2021, 10:24:01 PM »
Maybe you should quote things accurately before complaining about my explanations.

8 minutes 2 seconds he said
"and anything on Rumble probably should just be deleted."

He didn't say he would delete everything on rumble.

Does that make him any less of a pro-censorship anti-science smear merchant?

No. No it doesn’t.
“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

eyeeatingfish

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2021, 10:35:36 PM »
Does that make him any less of a pro-censorship anti-science smear merchant?

No. No it doesn’t.

You are taking him too literally, thats not what he meant IMHO

hvybarrels

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2021, 07:52:24 AM »
You are taking him too literally, thats not what he meant IMHO

We are living in an age of mass censorship where the first amendment is under direct threat, and you are so desperately trying to normalize this.

Of course I take him at his word. I’m done with the totalitarian frog boil.

“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

ren

Re: Covidiots Vs. Covidians? An Alt-Middle View
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2021, 07:56:07 AM »
this is dumb. label people based on a personal choice. That's just great. The 1st amendment is dead because of stupid people. Thread is nothing more than to entertain useless argument.
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