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Off Topic / Re: Swords: Buying and Training
« Last post by Q on Today at 02:59:39 AM »
The main thing to remember is that to be good at using a katana, it takes much more practice than a European type sword.  Katana's are made to slash and not hack. This means the swinging motion is to pull away as you make contact.  Compare this to a EU type sword where you just swing away (like an axe).

But I get why you would want a katana over a EU type sword.  Our family had one, but my grandma gave it away in the 70's due to it having bad karma cause it spilled blood generations ago. #facepalm.

European swords actually require equally, if not more skill to master. Most people have only been exposed to Hollywood portrayals of European weapons, which is why they think they are "hacky"; same goes with the perspective that the katana is superior because of how romanticized it is in action movies.

The only weapons that generally required low skillsets were clubs, spears and axes, in that order. All were the cheapest to produce and required little training to become proficient in the applications they were used in throughout the centuries.
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Off Topic / Re: Swords: Buying and Training
« Last post by Q on Today at 02:53:01 AM »
I am by no means an expert but I have learned a few things.

If you just want to practice movements you can get a solid wood training sword. If you want to spar then there are a number of training options made of rubber or plastic which you can swing around and bang on stuff all day long. Some material is so hard though that you would need to get protective gloves and a mask/helmet.

If you want to practice cutting things I know there are different grades of katana. Probably want to start out with something affordable, like $500 range to go cut the tatami mats and stuff like that. Cold steel has a variety, Hanwei is another well known sword brand that makes useable replicas. Cult of Athena (a retailer) has a lot of sword options.  I would say pay attention to the steel because that will probably tell you a good deal. A lot of swords are made of 1055 which is very durable but not as hard.

Traditional katana have soft steel sandwiching a hard steel compared to European swords which tend to be a tempered monosteel. The harder edge of a katana would be more likely to chip than the tempered edge of a european style.

There is no sandwiching. The blade is differentially tempered with the edge forged at higher temperatures than the body/spine, which allows the edge to be sharpened and maintain a cutting edge while preventing the rest of the blade to becoming too brittle and snapping.

European swords (for which I think you are referring to longswords) are tapering spring monosteels, which is essentially spring steel.

A katana has some advantages and some drawbacks. Their curve could make it harder to thrust but at the same time, the wedge shape of a katana blade actually helps to make a cut easier by keeping the blade centered whereas a thinner angle european blade has more chance at deflecting. I think both could hack just fine though, given a sharp edge and similar weight to a comparable sword. I think the slash just improves the strike. Some european swords are curved too like the german messers

This isn't correct. Blade curve evolved over the centuries to accommodate application. Not all katana are hyper curved, with some not being curved at all. It's the same with the kissaki (point of the sword), which went through multiple different configurations to accommodate needs of the time. For instance, the chu-kissaki is the form most people see on modern katana because it provides more structure to the kissaki to resist breaking, at the expense of less penetration potential. Compare that to my preferred style of kissaki, shobu zukuri, which is exponentially. better for penetration at the expense of being significantly more brittle.

With centering, you're referring to what people call self/auto alignment on cuts, which has already been disproven. Blade geometry and weight distribution have more impact on cut alignment than sword type.

The Messer is a solid choice. I would recommend a quality Messer over most katana produced today as it's design is more ergonomic and realistic for combat
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Off Topic / Re: Swords: Buying and Training
« Last post by Q on Today at 02:23:55 AM »
I want to buy a Katana and do some training with it, at least to a novice level.  Need some recommendations on what to buy and where to train at.

On my research, I've seen that Katana's can be damaged very easily and it requires a good amount of skill to cut things properly.  So I'm considering starting with a cheap used monosteel Katana like a Dojo Pro for around $200.  Then later on look at a Motohara or similar that looks nice but can still be used.  Am I on the right track?

You are talking about multiple different things.

If you want to train how to use a katana as martial "art", it's one thing. To use it for actual combat, another. If you want to become proficient at cutting, it's totally different from the latter two.

Recommending katana is difficult because it's not one size fits all; you choose the katana based on your intention and your personal physical characteristics, which affects the length of both the blade and tsuka (grip), blade characteristics (i.e. width, thickness, cutting edge geometry), tsuba (hand guard) dimensions, etc.

To answer your question better, will need to know what your intentions are.
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Got it today.

Came out to around 15.5" of real barrel, 17.5" with the Little Bastard brake welded on, and overall length is around 26 1/8". As long as the butt pad doesn't fall off I should be all set.

How's the muzzle flash on that puppy?
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The best method IMO is a stream.  It has a longer reach so you don't have to be as close.  It has better aim than a broad spray (doesn't get on people relatively near the target).  It also delivers a more concentrated load of spray.

I think a fog might surprise someone and maybe make them pause, but it's probably not intense enough to incapacitate an attacker long enough to escape to safety.


The reason I said I would prefer a fogger is because if you miss someone with a stream then there is a good chance you have no effect. With a fogger you can let out a whole cloud and they will get hit with some of it. Get some on the skin, the eyes and the lungs.  The main problem is the wind can be your enemy, but it can also be your friend, the cloud can travel pretty far, even 100 feet.

Pepper spray is more effective than CS gas generally speaking.
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Federal law says if one has been convicted of “a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year,” they are prohibited from possessing firearms or ammunition.  [18 USC 922(g)]

As far as I can see, the lowest class of felony offense in Hawaii is Class C, which is punishable by a term of between one and five years.

Am I missing something?

I am working off of memory here so you will have to forgive me but I recall a case a few years back where the person was convicted of a federal felony that did not take away his gun rights however state law said felons can't own guns so the fight was whether the state law applied to a federal conviction even though the federal conviction didn't take away his gun rights. Have to see if I can find the details. Of course that was a while ago so maybe the law changed since then?
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General Discussion / Re: "I am going to the range today"
« Last post by oldfart on May 17, 2024, 10:19:41 PM »
How easy is it to show up without a reservation and get a slot? I forgot to make a reservation but wanted to sight in my new glock and take my kid shooting.
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Generally, the morning is packed. People tend to leave around noon.
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but yeah, keep up about it being easiest to prove...

Some of the things you mentioned are procedural mistakes from my understanding. Doesn't look good but not necessarily going to sink the case.
Some of the other issues really are going to depend on the facts of the case, such as searching the other rooms.

As far as Trump people were "making arrangements" I question this one. Doesn't seem like a lot of prep to call the FBI and tell them come pick the stuff up, but maybe I am missing something there.

So you think the other cases are easier to prove?
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You have no idea how they try to win.  The anti 2a lawyers do the same tactic. Guess what I'm referring to.

I do know how they try to win. In an overzealous manner, blind to how they are shooting themselves in the foot
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Hahahhaha, I figured this would be the repy. Someone wasn't paying attention at all to what's what.

Feel free to point out anything I said that is incorrect.
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