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Title: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 07, 2020, 10:10:26 AM
I saw a merged thread but I wanted to see if we can have one PURELY for posting all the (alleged) evidence. Can debate various aspects such as whether the Supreme Court will rule, or what is the role of the media in an election, etc. it on that other thread but have this one listing all the information PER SE.

Eyewitness Account of Election Fraud in Michigan

https://youtu.be/-E2QA-br9Jw?t=35

(Embedded to skip 35 seconds of ad).
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 07, 2020, 10:12:52 AM
Chinese American testimony, including BLM intimidation and blocking of observation. She says there is no way a human can actually count 50 ballots in 1 minute.

https://youtu.be/kyVjcQQ0zkc

Here is what a commenter briefly translated:

22pm-5am, Only 7K Ballots & Counting of normal Ballot stopped at 12am Midnight 🕛 due to NOTHING to count. Detroit TCF Counting Station closed at 5am.
4am, a Van came with 16 Boxes 📦.
1. That is also impossible. All Voting 🗳 Station closed at 8pm. Why there is a Gap between 8pm-4am?
2. There were absolutely no counting whatsoever with that 4am 16 Boxes 📦.
All 137 Desks were still Idle between Van came - 5am Counting Station Close.
Straightaway her Supervisor said, 16K for Joe Biden.

Then after she, the Independent Non-Party affiliated Investigator got home at 7am. All of a Sudden, the Result said, her Night 100K+ Ballot counted in her Station. That is impossible.
1. She never Saw that.
2. Please do Simple MATH. 100K/137 Desks/7Hours is 1 Minutes = 50 Ballots been checked. Impossible speed for Human.
3. Democratic Party abuse BLM ✊🏿 to hire 10+ Huge Mafia/Gangsters to assault her & other Inspectors/Investigators. Cut them off in a Circle ⭕️. Net let them oversee anything. It happens immediately when any of 137 Desks’ Inspectors/Investigators Found a Problem.
It is coordinating by an Old Little Man 👴 with In-Ear👂Bluetooth Headphone.
4. The Rate of Fraud is extremely high. Within 1 Hour of Counting (22pm-12am) = 6 Incidences for her. 25 Incidents for her Colleague Edward.
5. The Democratic Party Inspectors/Investigators have broken the Rule of
1. Not allow Bring in Phone 📱
2. Not allow to Talk to Counting Personnel
3. Not allow to take Photo.
They took Photos of all Inspectors/Investigators as soon as they Arrived. Purpose = Whoever Found out/Reported the Frauds, they will call in Mafia/Gangsters to further Blackmail/threaten/assassinate by Accident after the Counting.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 07, 2020, 10:14:52 AM
Someone who is less than neutral and seems to have scrunched up a ballot in disgust.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTKG7SwBUlI
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 07, 2020, 10:16:22 AM
Software Switched 6,000 Trump Votes to Biden in MI

https://youtu.be/pIdY-Pl61mg?t=59

(Video skipped 59 seconds of advertising)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 07, 2020, 10:20:44 AM
Not posted, a video alleging a man was burning ballots. Can't know if those were just photocopies and it was a prank video.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 07, 2020, 01:39:22 PM
An "update" to the vote count gives the D candidate more votes BUT SUBTRACTED from the R candidate, and is quickly removed from the TV screen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY_yFQKl43g

SKIP 1 MINUTE INTO THE VIDEO

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 07, 2020, 01:46:05 PM
Calling the race at this stage for either Biden OR Trump is premature.  Until all challenges and investigations are complete, the results are going to remain in question.

Of course, the same media jerks crying that Trump declared victory are now claiming Biden has won.

I don't think any state has certified their results.  WI is going to be recounted.  GA, too.  It's not over.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 08, 2020, 07:59:39 AM
unfortunately the MSM is being 100% complicit. That's what we are fighting. You think the general public, especially here in Hawaii knows anything about the electoral college? They rely on the news to tell them.
Even Fox News flipped Dem.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 08, 2020, 08:23:32 AM
https://www.oann.com/graham-senate-judiciary-committee-will-probe-voter-fraud/

Graham: Senate Judiciary Committee Will Probe Voter Fraud

UPDATED 8:31 AM PT – Sunday, November 8, 2020

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 08, 2020, 08:54:07 AM
Following
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 08, 2020, 09:08:15 AM
a little more rant...
I watched one news clip looking back at Biden and Trump rallies. They said that Biden took a chance with virtual (non existent support) rallies vs in person Trump rallies. They criticized Trump rallies in this time of COVID.
But. Fast forward to this past weekend with dense parties celebrating Dumb arse Joe. Some wore masks some didn't. Not a word from critics. Not a word about fraud. Despite all this talk about foreign interference for YEARS the election system is 100% legit because Biden won. Not a SHRED of journalistic questions of voting integrity.

Imagine if this election outcome or (perception of it) was flipped. Do you think there would be celebrations this weekend? Or do you think they will drag this on and investigate every ballot. There would be endless news stories of fraud.
Joe Biden's first attempt should have been his last. He lied to us then and he will continue to deceive us. His family cronies will rape our country for his own gain - that is proven.

Journalism is dead. All we have is propaganda.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 08, 2020, 09:21:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKXMypeXnAU
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 08, 2020, 09:21:43 AM
Please post what you guys find too.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 08, 2020, 09:24:52 AM
I see so many videos and photos of people cheering, crying, jumping with joy, generally freaking out like they slayed the great demon in the White House or something, LOL.

I laugh when I think about how they will react once Trump prevails with overwhelming evidence. Imagine their faces LOL.

It's not that I am happy for their loss. It is just that I think they have comeuppance due, for being as usual irrational and illogical and not following the factual information (i.e., they did not even bother to double check claims of fraud and just took the MSM word that it is all "unsubstantiated" with "zero proof").
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 08, 2020, 09:25:42 AM
https://youtu.be/pqZ7DPjCZjU

Nancy Pelosi's Chief of Staff Is Chief Executive and Feinstein's Husband a Shareholder at Dominion [the vote counting software]

https://www.dominionvoting.com
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 08, 2020, 09:27:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYPJTUTx-yY

Summary of the evidence to be presented, so far.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on November 08, 2020, 09:37:44 AM
unfortunately the MSM is being 100% complicit. That's what we are fighting. You think the general public, especially here in Hawaii knows anything about the electoral college? They rely on the news to tell them.
Hawaii is the epitome of the Low-Iinformation Voter syndrome.
They willingly believe the most biased sources to be found and see no reason not to.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 08, 2020, 10:00:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP5i9ykXRR8
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 08, 2020, 10:03:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB-OkQkXRII
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 08, 2020, 11:08:12 AM
This is an important thread. Search results are being skewed right now, burying all the evidence under a pile of hack punditry. Deep State is in full Orwell mode, and they will need to replace their Cancel button soon if they keep smashing it so hard.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 08, 2020, 11:15:51 AM
It is getting more and more difficult to find videos that counter the mainstream narrative

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnLQdR3pAQI
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 08, 2020, 11:26:29 AM
Whistleblower says he was asked to backdate ballots
so they did not appear to arrive after the election.


https://youtu.be/5JUZAwPHxwc
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 08, 2020, 11:33:36 AM
Stumbled across this channel.  They have some of the best videos with interviews, so it's not just a face reading words with no way to verify the sources.

The host has an impressive background.

Quote
Watch Actionable Intelligence with Eric Greitens on Real America's Voice,
weekdays at 6pm ET. For more information, visit ericgreitensmedia.com.

Eric Greitens is the host of Actionable Intelligence, a nightly program airing
on Real America’s Voice Network (RAV-TV). Eric Greitens is a Navy SEAL
with four deployments in the Global War on Terror and a recipient of the
Bronze Star and Purple Heart. Greitens is also a New York Times best-
selling author, and Rhodes Scholar who earned a PhD from Oxford University.

In 2014, Fortune Magazine named Greitens to their list of World’s 50 Greatest
Leaders for his leadership helping wounded veterans. In 2016, Greitens was
elected the 56th Governor of Missouri as a conservative outsider, having never
been in politics before.

https://youtu.be/rWSc22nDg6Y
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 08, 2020, 11:41:26 AM
Gillespie County, Texas

Even though Trump won Texas, it was close.  Not only that, but the Biden team kept saying they were going to flip Texas Blue.

I wondered how they could pull that off, and now there have been at lease 3 stories of major election fraud and tampering.

These stories need to be part of the Trump's legal team's evidence that the race nationally was being rigged against Trump.  Arguing state-by-state and only focusing on states Trump lost -- as if they weren't part of an orchestrated national effort to steal an election -- places an undue burden on the lawyers trying to show how widespread the cheating was for Biden.

https://youtu.be/vniGMtO4KuE
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 08, 2020, 11:43:28 AM
makes you wonder about our elections here in Hawaii....
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 08, 2020, 11:50:22 AM
makes you wonder about our elections here in Hawaii....

That's the real issue.  EVERY state that's under mostly Democrat rule can cheat with impunity because the employees and officials all go along to get along.

It takes actual whistleblowers with squeaky-clean backgrounds and solid evidence to even try to expose the corruption.  Who wants to be the one going against his own state's election process if (1) it could destroy their life, and (2) they might agree that the side being helped by rigging the election is their candidate, too?

If the Republicans had any sense at all, they would find insiders with financial troubles and offer to exchange a little "bail-out stimulus relief" in exchange for solid proof that the state government was rigging their own elections. 

If Soros can spread around $34B in one election, it's going to be tough to find the right people in the right positions who haven't already been paid off.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 08, 2020, 12:01:06 PM
makes you wonder about our elections here in Hawaii....

How would we know without an outside audit? The police chief and prosecutors office were running a crime syndicate here for years and it took the FBI to step in. This is a reasonable question.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 08, 2020, 12:52:55 PM
Two apparently related stories.



https://www.wnd.com/2020/09/joe-bidens-texas-director-accused-filling-ballots-dead-people/
^^^^
This was Joe Biden's Political Director in Texas, Dallas Jones (Good name for a Texan  :rofl:).

"This scheme involves voter fraud on a massive scale".

Quote
Dallas Jones and his cohorts are hoarding mail-in and absentee ballots and ordering operatives to
fill the ballots out for people illegally, including for dead people, homeless people and nursing home
residents, two private investigators have testified under oath, according to National File.

And this is more than likely someone being directed by Dallas Jones:
       vvvv
https://www.kbtx.com/2020/11/06/limestone-county-social-worker-charged-with-134-felony-counts-involving-election-fraud/

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 08, 2020, 01:06:17 PM
Would this count as evidence? Maybe anecdotal meme evidence?

(https://i.imgur.com/DZBTwId.jpg)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 08, 2020, 02:00:45 PM
Self-explanatory audio recording

https://youtu.be/2hI73AprGs4
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 08, 2020, 02:02:03 PM
This is an important thread. Search results are being skewed right now, burying all the evidence under a pile of hack punditry. Deep State is in full Orwell mode, and they will need to replace their Cancel button soon if they keep smashing it so hard.

Exactly. Some of the things posted, you can't even easily find unless someone else gave you the link.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 08, 2020, 02:04:05 PM
makes you wonder about our elections here in Hawaii....

I was thinking the same thing. Just because "historically" HI has been blue, doesn't mean it wasn't flipped this time. There are plenty of red votes this year. You can see it in the support on the streets, online, etc.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 08, 2020, 06:49:39 PM
Bill Still's program. Pretty high confidence here that Trump has won and will win in the end.

Brief summary of various evidence compiled to date.

https://youtu.be/j4SIt7PcjB0?t=39

(Skipped 39 seconds of advertising).
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on November 08, 2020, 07:14:36 PM
I was thinking the same thing. Just because "historically" HI has been blue, doesn't mean it wasn't flipped this time. There are plenty of red votes this year.
West Hawaii Today (rabid leftwing rag) had a color coded map of the BI, showing over 50% vote for Trump in most all the west side.  Even a few approaching 50% on the east side.  2016 much of the west side was around 40%, non existent IIRC on the liberal east side.

They did not bother to give the numerical data the map was based on, suspicious in itself.

https://www.westhawaiitoday.com/2020/11/08/hawaii-news/big-island-voters-not-as-quick-to-embrace-trump/ (https://www.westhawaiitoday.com/2020/11/08/hawaii-news/big-island-voters-not-as-quick-to-embrace-trump/)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 08, 2020, 07:18:21 PM
You'd think the rate of mail-in ballot rejections in this year's screwed up election would be HIGHER than 2016.  But, no, you'd be wrong.  Based on a study, the rate of rejection for mail-in ballots in 2020 was 30 times LOWER THAN 2016. 

Somehow, during a pandemic and with just a few months to plan and implement changes, the states IMPROVED the process so much that voters were able to properly complete and return correctly filled out ballots at a rate 3,000% higher than in 2016 -- with 2016 having just a fraction of 2020's mail-in ballots.

Perhaps the difference isn't in the voter's abilities to follow directions nor the state's superb instructions, but rather a lowering of the standards for what is considered a valid ballot?

 :wtf:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on November 08, 2020, 07:26:42 PM
but rather a lowering of the standards for what is considered a valid ballot?
Duh, too hard to compute.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 08, 2020, 07:43:50 PM
If you can get past the comedic embellishment, lots of specific details challenging the integrity and processes of the states' elections.

I normally watch Lowder with Crowder, but when the topic is this complex, less sarcasm would be nice.  Whatever .... still a good synopsis of so many state's questionable elections.

I'm watching now, so haven't gotten to Rudy's interview yet. 

https://youtu.be/VBysRWDu0Ug
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 08, 2020, 08:57:01 PM
Biden's brain is so dysfunctional, he admitted it.

Some of you might have already seen this. Still, much more interesting now IN CONTEXT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA8a2g6tTp0
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 08, 2020, 09:07:58 PM
Sad when goofball youtube comedians give better coverage than so-called professional journalists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBZ-KiYoU68
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 08, 2020, 09:15:58 PM
World leaders are early congratulating Biden because its going to be easier to steal from our country.The world is salivating...
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 08, 2020, 09:59:20 PM
Statistical anomalies of Biden votes

https://www.theepochtimes.com/statistical-anomalies-in-biden-votes-analyses-indicate_3570518.html
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 08, 2020, 10:09:20 PM
Statistical anomalies of Biden votes

https://www.theepochtimes.com/statistical-anomalies-in-biden-votes-analyses-indicate_3570518.html

Thanks but your link seemed to be stopped by a paywall. I managed to find the text:

Statistical Anomalies in Biden Votes, Analyses Indicate
Petr Svab
Statistical Anomalies in Biden Votes, Analyses Indicate
This post was originally published on this site

https://salars.net/statistical-anomalies-in-biden-votes-analyses-indicate/

With the 2020 elections marred by legal challenges and fraud allegations, some have used statistical analysis to try to determine if foul play was involved. In several states, analyses of election data indeed show statistically odd phenomena in the tallies of votes for the Democratic candidate, former Vice President Joe Biden.

One of the most common arguments is that vote counts for Biden in some localities violate Benford’s Law.

In simple terms, the law states that in many real-world data sets, such as demographic data, geographical data, or even sport statistics, the first digit of the numbers will more likely be 1 than 2, and 2 more likely than 3, etc. following logarithmic scale. If the first digit distribution significantly diverges from this rule, it could be evidence of artificial manipulation of the data.

The law has been used to identify fraudulent financial records and other illegal activities. Walter Mebane, political science professor at the University of Michigan, used the law to back ballot stuffing allegations in the 2009 Iran election (pdf). Some researchers also used the law to check for irregularities in the 2016 election in Wisconsin (pdf).

One GitHub user posted an analysis of the 2020 election results in Fulton County, Georgia; Miami-Dade, Florida; Milwaukee, Wisconsin; Chicago, Illinois; and Allegheny County, Pennsylvania.

While the result in Georgia and Florida generally adhered to Benford’s Law, there were significant deviations in votes for Biden in Wisconsin, Illinois, and Pennsylvania.

One Twitter user went deeper on the Milwaukee analysis and found that in many city wards, votes counted after 3 a.m. on Nov. 4 went to Biden by a much larger margin than those counted before. Sometimes the difference was as high as 40 percentage points.

Milwaukee’s county clerk didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment regarding the discrepancy. Wisconsin is headed for a recount, showing Biden slightly ahead.

Another internet sleuth noticed that in Pennsylvania, nearly 10,000 votes were removed from President Donald Trump’s count at around 9 p.m. on Nov. 4. He said the losses came from three counties: Allegheny (-1,063 votes), Bucks (-2,972 votes), and Chester (-7,135 votes).

Then, around 9 a.m. on Nov. 6, more than 27,000 votes were added to the count, nearly all of them to Biden, he said.

The office of Pennsylvania Secretary of State didn’t immediately respond to questions about the anomalies. Biden is ahead in the state, but Trump has challenged the election in court.

The results in Michigan, where Biden is ahead by a small margin, also seem to be statistically peculiar.

Around 5 a.m. on Nov. 4, data firm Decision Desk HQ updated the vote count for Michigan, adding 138,339 votes to Biden, but zero to Trump. The statistical impossibility of such a scenario prompted people to speculate that votes were illegally injected into the tally.

Within 40 minutes, Decision Desk HQ posted another update that subtracted 110,796 votes from Biden’s total and added 16,638 to Trump’s. It later said a “clerical error” in Shiawassee County caused the distribution of incorrect data and has since been fixed.

At 5:54 a.m. and 6:05 a.m., the firm posted two more updates for the Michigan race that didn’t appear to show anything unusual.

Then, at 6:18 a.m., the firm posted another update, which added 158,902 votes to the Biden tally and 29,295 votes to Trump’s. Those votes split roughly 85 percent for Biden—an exceptionally high ratio.

One explanation could be that those votes came from a deep-blue county and only included absentee ballots, which were expected to heavily favor Democrats.

However, even absentee ballots in Washtenaw County, which went for Biden by the largest margin, split in his favor by less than 82 percent. In addition, the candidate only picked up 125,927 absentee votes there, so many would have had to have come from another county less favorable to Biden.

A spokeswoman for the Michigan Secretary of State didn’t respond to questions about these votes.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 08, 2020, 10:13:24 PM
http://joannenova.com.au/2020/11/biden-votes-pattern-fails-an-easy-first-test-for-tax-fraud/

Has interesting charts
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 08, 2020, 10:25:12 PM
If you think about it, pretty much we will not be able to do any "recount." You are just recounting maybe fake votes. The ballots are all anonymous.

Basically we need a national do-over.

Maybe some geeks will suggest a blockchain type of app.

So, basically, invalidate the entire election and have a do-over. Trump stays in office until that is done and he lost fairly.

The mass Liberal meltdown will be delayed until they find out Trump actually does stay.

One thing though, this whole election bullshit mess, it totally proved the fake news is truly fake. All the major news sources, video or printed, and even including local news (even ours!) were talking about Trump having ZERO evidence. All "unsubstantiated." Any news editor cannot in good conscience say there is ZERO evidence. Maybe some liberals on this forum (and around the world) will finally wake up to their decades long brainwashing.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 08, 2020, 10:46:46 PM
World-class brainwashing. Did you expect anything less?

Everything from the excellent video graphics, to the very sensible-sounding female voice (gentle and persuasive), to the out of context conservative snippets, to the "expert" who you can almost hear shaking his head at the ridiculous and pathetic Trump lawsuits, and the foregone conclusion of Biden's win.

And cleverly twisting the debate now to TRUMP being the one cheating and stealing.

https://youtu.be/4Rnb0j-bNmM
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: bass monkey on November 08, 2020, 11:41:33 PM
Thanks but your link seemed to be stopped by a paywall. I managed to find the text:

Statistical Anomalies in Biden Votes, Analyses Indicate
Petr Svab
Statistical Anomalies in Biden Votes, Analyses Indicate
This post was originally published on this site

https://salars.net/statistical-anomalies-in-biden-votes-analyses-indicate/

With the 2020 elections marred by legal challenges and fraud allegations, some have used statistical analysis to try to determine if foul play was involved. In several states, analyses of election data indeed show statistically odd phenomena in the tallies of votes for the Democratic candidate, former Vice President Joe Biden.

One of the most common arguments is that vote counts for Biden in some localities violate Benford’s Law.

In simple terms, the law states that in many real-world data sets, such as demographic data, geographical data, or even sport statistics, the first digit of the numbers will more likely be 1 than 2, and 2 more likely than 3, etc. following logarithmic scale. If the first digit distribution significantly diverges from this rule, it could be evidence of artificial manipulation of the data.

The law has been used to identify fraudulent financial records and other illegal activities. Walter Mebane, political science professor at the University of Michigan, used the law to back ballot stuffing allegations in the 2009 Iran election (pdf). Some researchers also used the law to check for irregularities in the 2016 election in Wisconsin (pdf).

One GitHub user posted an analysis of the 2020 election results in Fulton County, Georgia; Miami-Dade, Florida; Milwaukee, Wisconsin; Chicago, Illinois; and Allegheny County, Pennsylvania.

While the result in Georgia and Florida generally adhered to Benford’s Law, there were significant deviations in votes for Biden in Wisconsin, Illinois, and Pennsylvania.

One Twitter user went deeper on the Milwaukee analysis and found that in many city wards, votes counted after 3 a.m. on Nov. 4 went to Biden by a much larger margin than those counted before. Sometimes the difference was as high as 40 percentage points.

Milwaukee’s county clerk didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment regarding the discrepancy. Wisconsin is headed for a recount, showing Biden slightly ahead.

Another internet sleuth noticed that in Pennsylvania, nearly 10,000 votes were removed from President Donald Trump’s count at around 9 p.m. on Nov. 4. He said the losses came from three counties: Allegheny (-1,063 votes), Bucks (-2,972 votes), and Chester (-7,135 votes).

Then, around 9 a.m. on Nov. 6, more than 27,000 votes were added to the count, nearly all of them to Biden, he said.

The office of Pennsylvania Secretary of State didn’t immediately respond to questions about the anomalies. Biden is ahead in the state, but Trump has challenged the election in court.

The results in Michigan, where Biden is ahead by a small margin, also seem to be statistically peculiar.

Around 5 a.m. on Nov. 4, data firm Decision Desk HQ updated the vote count for Michigan, adding 138,339 votes to Biden, but zero to Trump. The statistical impossibility of such a scenario prompted people to speculate that votes were illegally injected into the tally.

Within 40 minutes, Decision Desk HQ posted another update that subtracted 110,796 votes from Biden’s total and added 16,638 to Trump’s. It later said a “clerical error” in Shiawassee County caused the distribution of incorrect data and has since been fixed.

At 5:54 a.m. and 6:05 a.m., the firm posted two more updates for the Michigan race that didn’t appear to show anything unusual.

Then, at 6:18 a.m., the firm posted another update, which added 158,902 votes to the Biden tally and 29,295 votes to Trump’s. Those votes split roughly 85 percent for Biden—an exceptionally high ratio.

One explanation could be that those votes came from a deep-blue county and only included absentee ballots, which were expected to heavily favor Democrats.

However, even absentee ballots in Washtenaw County, which went for Biden by the largest margin, split in his favor by less than 82 percent. In addition, the candidate only picked up 125,927 absentee votes there, so many would have had to have come from another county less favorable to Biden.

A spokeswoman for the Michigan Secretary of State didn’t respond to questions about these votes.

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I've seen similar posted.
The anomalies of the election being statistically impossible,  Biden doing even better then Obama.

Those battleground states don't even follow the national trends
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: bass monkey on November 08, 2020, 11:42:28 PM
Also came across this story

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/huge-breaking-news-georgia-132000-ballots-fulton-county-georgia-identified-likely-ineligible/?fbclid=IwAR3SzQem-6v7KDfjI-oaYldDzpP_gUQuYphqKSKgFIBQUxVSxJya49uNK7Q
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aieahound on November 09, 2020, 12:21:40 AM
Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

From Flapp arguing that statistics are not valid.  (Yeah. He was arguing with me.)

I was a graduate assistant in statistics so I think this gets interesting.
And I do believe in statistically anomalies being looked at.
But would need to see raw data or data sources. Hopefully not all from internet sleuths. Or the MSM.
Where are they getting their numbers from? (Other than the “clerical error” which was acknowledged and was pretty damn huge.)

The recording of poll worker and ballot counter training was pretty interesting and should raise questions.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2020, 12:25:39 AM

From Flapp arguing that statistics are not valid.

I was a graduate assistant in statistics so I think this gets interesting.
And I do believe in statistically anomalies being looked at.
But would need to see raw data or data sources. Hopefully not all from internet sleuths. Or the MSM.
Where are they getting their numbers from? (Other than the “clerical error” which was acknowledged and was pretty damn huge.)

The recording of poll worker and ballot counter training was pretty interesting and should raise questions.

I never said that.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aieahound on November 09, 2020, 12:28:12 AM
I never said that.

Complete quote:

Percentages are meaningless when nearly 300,000 vehicle fires occur every year.  That's not a small number, unless you want it to be.  So you confuse the facts with statistics and percentages.

If I earned $100 last month making widgets, and this month I made $200, I increased by income by $100.

That's not very impressive, so I hide the raw data and say, "I doubled my income over last month."

Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=29145.msg260200#msg260200

Say again?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2020, 12:33:19 AM
If you think about it, pretty much we will not be able to do any "recount." You are just recounting maybe fake votes. The ballots are all anonymous.

Basically we need a national do-over.

Maybe some geeks will suggest a blockchain type of app.

So, basically, invalidate the entire election and have a do-over. Trump stays in office until that is done and he lost fairly.

The mass Liberal meltdown will be delayed until they find out Trump actually does stay.

One thing though, this whole election bullshit mess, it totally proved the fake news is truly fake. All the major news sources, video or printed, and even including local news (even ours!) were talking about Trump having ZERO evidence. All "unsubstantiated." Any news editor cannot in good conscience say there is ZERO evidence. Maybe some liberals on this forum (and around the world) will finally wake up to their decades long brainwashing.

There's no Constitutional provision for a general election do-over.  The law is clear.  In the case of a Presidential election failing to decide the election, it automatically falls to the Congress.

It's as if the framers created that stopgap remedy to guard against election fraud and failures.  No logical reason to run another election if the corrupt state election processes are not fixed first.

"Electoral College Tie", "Fraud" and "Contested Election" are possible reasons for throwing the decision to Congress.  As long as the Trump legal team has valid concerns, they can contest the election results.

I'd love for this to be deemed a failed election and have Congress decide.  This is still 2020.  It's almost like this has to be the outcome!   :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2020, 12:35:04 AM
Complete quote:

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=29145.msg260200#msg260200

Say again?

Bullshit.  I never said:


From Flapp arguing that statistics are not valid.  (Yeah. He was arguing with me.)

  ^== direct quote from you, not me.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aieahound on November 09, 2020, 12:47:11 AM
Easy big fella.
Clearly that part is not from you. That part is not in quotes from you. (Reading comprehension? Or did you only study spelling and grammar?)
Members can deduce whatever they want from the quotes. (Or check out the thread)
I argued statistics and that was your response.
Try to focus.
You’re deflecting again.
Pretty soon I’m gonna get an insult from you. (SOP)

( to the rest of the gang, don’t worry I’m done. Don’t want to derail this thread as I want to keep reading it.)
Title: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 09, 2020, 06:42:49 AM
BBC Article from 2016, how to spot vote rigging.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37243190

Look familiar?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 09, 2020, 06:56:16 AM
Long article from Twitchy shows some numbers for you to review.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/11/08/just-absolutely-insane-if-this-thread-doesnt-make-ya-go-hmmm-about-bidens-projected-win-nothing-will/
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 09, 2020, 07:11:37 AM
Long article from Twitchy shows some numbers for you to review.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/11/08/just-absolutely-insane-if-this-thread-doesnt-make-ya-go-hmmm-about-bidens-projected-win-nothing-will/

"Dec. 14 rolls by and the vote goes to the house.
Each house rep gets 1 vote.
Repubs have 26, Dems at 23. Even if they hold all 2018 wins, and gain Pennsylvania seat, they still end up at 26 vs. 24. 25 with Georgia iirc.

Repubs vote Trump.

2nd term for Trump."


This will be civil war. 

I factor most of these "anomalies"  are due to the fact so many first time voters and the pure hatred of trump forced people out.   I know people who just voted Biden to stop trump.  Even I didn't vote for him.   Of course statistics would be screwed up by such a unique election.  Screaming voter fraud with no proof isn't getting us anywhere or healing Americas divides.   I am still waiting on actual proof rather than articles extrapolating data or statistics.  Democrats ain't the smartest they couldn't perfectly manipulate the vote and have no evidence of it.  Just like I said to the 2016 democrats who screamed rigged, the message to the Republicans is the same, get over it.  Neither is probably rigged. 
Title: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 09, 2020, 07:31:09 AM
You’re so quick to jump to conclusions that there is no rigging even when there are red flags all over that there are anomalies in the 2020 election.  Where are you even basing your conclusion that there is no rigging?

Regarding your statement that voters are turning out because they want to vote.... How do you even explain that in some places, there are more votes (200%) than registered voters?

Pls ask yourself if you are really looking at this objectively or not. Confirmation bias is when you ignore evidence when they do not support your views.

You mention “civil war” - if the democrats rigged the election to steal the presidency, then it’s actually already started. It’s called a coup d’etat.

Anyway, back to topic.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 09, 2020, 09:08:59 AM



This will be civil war. 


We are already at a civil war.  Just not like how the one people were taught about in schools.  Cyber warefare, info warfare, just to name a few.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 09, 2020, 09:11:27 AM
There's no Constitutional provision for a general election do-over.  The law is clear.  In the case of a Presidential election failing to decide the election, it automatically falls to the Congress.

It's as if the framers created that stopgap remedy to guard against election fraud and failures.  No logical reason to run another election if the corrupt state election processes are not fixed first.

"Electoral College Tie", "Fraud" and "Contested Election" are possible reasons for throwing the decision to Congress.  As long as the Trump legal team has valid concerns, they can contest the election results.

I'd love for this to be deemed a failed election and have Congress decide.  This is still 2020.  It's almost like this has to be the outcome!   :rofl:

If he wins in the SCOTUS, this will be huge because it will dictate how all future elections are won.  DNC can cheat with zero repercussions and GOP has no hope of winning, unless they too cheat.  Then we will have all 340,000,000 citizens in the nation voting and maybe even more for every election.

Connecting the dots, Feinsteins husband owns part of the voting tally company and so does Pelosi's.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 09, 2020, 10:02:19 AM


Steve Cortez one minute video re a couple of "anomalies" re vote totals/win ratio in House races compared to presidential race.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1325865235387969536

(https://i.imgur.com/bPNVVgc.png)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 09, 2020, 10:19:18 AM
You’re so quick to jump to conclusions that there is no rigging even when there are red flags all over that there are anomalies in the 2020 election.  Where are you even basing your conclusion that there is no rigging?

Regarding your statement that voters are turning out because they want to vote.... How do you even explain that in some places, there are more votes (200%) than registered voters?

Pls ask yourself if you are really looking at this objectively or not. Confirmation bias is when you ignore evidence when they do not support your views.

You mention “civil war” - if the democrats rigged the election to steal the presidency, then it’s actually already started. It’s called a coup d’etat.

Anyway, back to topic.

All these accusations don't have any evidence in court,  I am basing everything off of that.   If they had proof, they would have made a court case.  None of the current cases that I have researched have any proof.   You can say anything you want to the public,  but in court you are under oath and so far no republicans, pundits or anyone has taken that step.  In my eyes that's because there is no proof.

I know there is some bias, but then again I said the same thing when I was on the winning side vs losing.  Russia had some influence but didn't steal the election, same thing this time around all the investigations in the world will most likely not come out with any evidence just like the democrat witch hunts.

Civil war may happen if the house votes (steals the election for trump) and they still find no evidence of voter fraud.  I will be on the side of evidence.  This is why the 2nd amendment exists.  Its not for the republicans its for democracy.  And if democracy votes for Biden I will be on the side of democracy.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 09, 2020, 10:20:55 AM
Deep dive (one hour) into potential cyber corruption by expert in the field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=emb_logo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ficae6x1Q5A&feature=emb_logo)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 09, 2020, 10:21:54 AM
All these accusations don't have any evidence in court,  I am basing everything off of that.   If they had proof, they would have made a court case.  None of the current cases that I have researched have any proof.   You can say anything you want to the public,  but in court you are under oath and so far no republicans, pundits or anyone has taken that step.  In my eyes that's because there is no proof.

I know there is some bias, but then again I said the same thing when I was on the winning side vs losing.  Russia had some influence but didn't steal the election, same thing this time around all the investigations in the world will most likely not come out with any evidence just like the democrat witch hunts.

Civil war may happen if the house votes (steals the election for trump) and they still find no evidence of voter fraud.  I will be on the side of evidence.  This is why the 2nd amendment exists.  Its not for the republicans its for democracy.  And if democracy votes for Biden I will be on the side of democracy.

Searching for articles or the like on the internet is not research
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 09, 2020, 10:22:35 AM
If he wins in the SCOTUS, this will be huge because it will dictate how all future elections are won.  DNC can cheat with zero repercussions and GOP has no hope of winning, unless they too cheat.  Then we will have all 340,000,000 citizens in the nation voting and maybe even more for every election.

Connecting the dots, Feinsteins husband owns part of the voting tally company and so does Pelosi's.

This is not democracy.  The courts do not decide the victor.  The registered voters do.  The people do.  This is a very dangerous statement. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 09, 2020, 10:24:13 AM
Searching for articles or the like on the internet is not research

Alright what is a better method?   Why is there no court cases with all this evidence you say exist?  It would be the easiest way to prove your side.  Then I can view those documents and agree with you there is fraud. Why bring dozens of court cases with no evidence of wrong doing?  If you had proof of murder you would take it to court,  if you don't well than actions speak louder than words.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 09, 2020, 10:33:30 AM
All these accusations don't have any evidence in court,  I am basing everything off of that.   If they had proof, they would have made a court case.  None of the current cases that I have researched have any proof.   You can say anything you want to the public,  but in court you are under oath and so far no republicans, pundits or anyone has taken that step.  In my eyes that's because there is no proof.

**** What are you talking about? Are you that stupid? (Rhetorical question). The Republicans were already, last Friday, granted a court order admitting them to closer observation of a ballot counting operation in Philadephia, so they must have presented "evidence" that proved to the judge that they were being denied their legal right to appropriate observation. Most of the rest of the lawsuits are being filed this week... it's hard to have courts rule on evidence before a lawsuit is filed and heard by the court. I'd think anyone would know that. There are numerous people who have signed sworn affidavits that they observed fraud or irregularities in ballot tabulation or handling. They will be part of the evidence presented in these soon upcoming lawsuits. The fact that you don't know about them, or offhandedly discount them without any evidence of your own that they are false says all we need to know about your grossly deficient concept of evidence.

I know there is some bias, but then again I said the same thing when I was on the winning side vs losing.  Russia had some influence but didn't steal the election, same thing this time around all the investigations in the world will most likely not come out with any evidence just like the democrat witch hunts.

Civil war may happen if the house votes (steals the election for trump) and they still find no evidence of voter fraud.  I will be on the side of evidence.  This is why the 2nd amendment exists.  Its not for the republicans its for democracy.  And if democracy votes for Biden I will be on the side of democracy.

**** How would the House voting be equivalent to "steals the election for trump"? The House would only be voting as a result of successful lawsuits wherein a court had deemed the evidence submitted to be valid, or the legal arguments made to be valid, and to have thus warranted the necessity for the House to determine who will take office January 20, 2021. How is that "stealing"?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 09, 2020, 10:40:15 AM
This is not democracy.  The courts do not decide the victor.  The public does.  The people do.  This is a very dangerous statement.
Goddamn you're a dumbass. The law determines the processes and procedures for determining the outcome of an election. The law is created by legislators who are elected by registered voters (not "the public" or "the people"). The law is interpreted by judges who are either elected by registered voters, or appointed and/or confirmed by legislators or executives who were elected by registered voters.

"This is not democracy." Duh dumbfuck. That's because the United States of America isn't a democracy. It's a constitutional republic ("if you can keep it" as Benjamin Franklin warned).

Almost every sentence you write shows another layer of your ignorance.

smh.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 09, 2020, 10:40:52 AM


And they won the case to observe.  This is not voter fraud.  I will wait for those cases of voter fraud with those sworn affidavits.  Until then this America, innocent until proven guilty.  Its in our constitution.  I never said to stop making court cases if you have proof,  I am only against stealing elections from either side.  If it descends to a house vote and trump wins that way, it will be fraud.   

If no candidate for president receives an absolute majority of the electoral votes, pursuant to the 12th Amendment, the House of Representatives is required to go into session immediately to choose a president from among the three candidates who received the most electoral votes.

No where does this say they must win lawsuits.   This is uncharted territory so I am not sure what will happen. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 09, 2020, 10:43:42 AM
Goddamn you're a dumbass. The law determines the processes and procedures for determining the outcome of an election. The law is created by legislators who are elected by registered voters (not "the public" or "the people"). The law is interpreted by judges who are either elected by registered voters, or appointed and/or confirmed by legislators or executives who were elected by registered voters.

"This is not democracy." Duh dumbfuck. That's because the United States of America isn't a democracy. It's a constitutional republic ("if you can keep it" as Benjamin Franklin warned).

Almost every sentence you write shows another layer of your ignorance.

smh.

I would say the same about you, the level of your bias is very apparent. 

Public is a synonym of registered voters.   Voters (registered) decide elections.  Period.    Is your argument really that America doesn't do democracy?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 09, 2020, 10:49:40 AM
I would say the same about you, the level of your bias is very apparent. 

Public is a synonym of registered voters.   Voters (registered) decide elections.  Period.    Is your argument really that America doesn't do democracy?
You're so full of shit. Do you even read the moronic shit you write?

"Public is a synonym of registered voters."

So when Fauci says "the public will be administered the vaccine" he is talking about only registered voters?! I.e. No one under 18, no convicted felons, no one who is not an American citizen, etc. etc. etc. will be allowed to receive a vaccination?

Show me a single dictionary entry, from any dictionary, anywhere that shows that one definition of "public" is "registered voters".

smh. again. and again. and again.

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 09, 2020, 10:59:51 AM
You're so full of shit. Do you even read the moronic shit you write?

"Public is a synonym of registered voters."

So when Fauci says "the public will be administered the vaccine" he is talking about only registered voters?! I.e. No one under 18, no convicted felons, no one who is not an American citizen, etc. etc. etc. will be allowed to receive a vaccination?

Show me a single dictionary entry, from any dictionary, anywhere that shows that one definition of "public" is "registered voters".

smh. again. and again. and again.


Sorry I was not literal enough for you.  In my previous statement using the world public referred to registered voters.  It was the incorrect term to use.  I apologize.

America is a democracy, registered voters decide elections.  Period.  Is that more clear for you?  I swear when you start to argue semantics you are already losing.

This is not democracy.  The courts do not decide the victor.  The registered voters do.  The people do (American voters).  This is a very dangerous statement.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 09, 2020, 11:20:06 AM
You're so full of shit. Do you even read the moronic shit you write?

"Public is a synonym of registered voters."

So when Fauci says "the public will be administered the vaccine" he is talking about only registered voters?! I.e. No one under 18, no convicted felons, no one who is not an American citizen, etc. etc. etc. will be allowed to receive a vaccination?

Show me a single dictionary entry, from any dictionary, anywhere that shows that one definition of "public" is "registered voters".

smh. again. and again. and again.
Someone is seeing the big picture. . .  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 09, 2020, 11:30:11 AM
Someone is seeing the big picture. . .  :thumbsup:
It’s too bad the person who really needs to see the big picture and would benefit the most from seeing the big picture is too stupid to see it.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 09, 2020, 12:15:44 PM
It’s too bad the person who really needs to see the big picture and would benefit the most from seeing the big picture is too stupid to see it.
They already know everything.  Their cup is already full.  They need to realize that they need to expand the depth of their cup.  Otherwise they'll remain unapologetically ignorant. . .
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 09, 2020, 12:20:30 PM
This is not democracy.  The courts do not decide the victor.  The registered voters do.  The people do.  This is a very dangerous statement.

The voters do not decide the victor.  I voted for Trump, but HI's electoral votes will go to Biden. 

I agree that cheating is dangerous.  So that's why the SCOTUS will decide if the election lost it's integrity or not.  Then the members of the house will determine who the POTUS will be.  It's in the constitution.  Like how the 2a is. 

Like you mentioned before, evidence does not equal guilt, only a conviction does.  So the SCOUTS can make a ruling which is not dangerous at all.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2020, 12:22:00 PM
Easy big fella.
Clearly that part is not from you. That part is not in quotes from you. (Reading comprehension? Or did you only study spelling and grammar?)
Members can deduce whatever they want from the quotes. (Or check out the thread)
I argued statistics and that was your response.
Try to focus.
You’re deflecting again.
Pretty soon I’m gonna get an insult from you. (SOP)

( to the rest of the gang, don’t worry I’m done. Don’t want to derail this thread as I want to keep reading it.)

Your reading comprehension is on par with your grammar.   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

What you DEDUCED from my quote was 100% wrong.  I was quoting a well-known idiom (to anyone with a medium amount of education) regarding the opinions of those who use statistics.

As a statistic-trained person, I would have thought you would know not to attribute the "Damned Lies" line to me, and then "deduce" what I mean from it.   :crazy:

Once again, your trolling is ridiculously inept.  You show how ignorant and desperate you can be when trying to troll me.

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

Now, go ahead and "deduce" what I mean with that last line.   :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 09, 2020, 12:25:11 PM
Alright what is a better method?   Why is there no court cases with all this evidence you say exist?  It would be the easiest way to prove your side.  Then I can view those documents and agree with you there is fraud. Why bring dozens of court cases with no evidence of wrong doing?  If you had proof of murder you would take it to court,  if you don't well than actions speak louder than words.

The court cases you're looking for will be submitted.  Many already have since last week.  It is possible that they're not available online. Al Gore got 37 days to contest the result.  It's only been like 1 day since all the votes in every state have been counted.  The weekend doesn't count.  Patience grasshoppah.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 09, 2020, 12:31:01 PM
I would say the same about you, the level of your bias is very apparent. 

Public is a synonym of registered voters.   Voters (registered) decide elections.  Period.    Is your argument really that America doesn't do democracy?

please show where "public" is a synonym of "registered voters"
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 09, 2020, 12:32:12 PM
And they won the case to observe.  This is not voter fraud.  I will wait for those cases of voter fraud with those sworn affidavits.  Until then this America, innocent until proven guilty.  Its in our constitution.  I never said to stop making court cases if you have proof,  I am only against stealing elections from either side.  If it descends to a house vote and trump wins that way, it will be fraud.   

If no candidate for president receives an absolute majority of the electoral votes, pursuant to the 12th Amendment, the House of Representatives is required to go into session immediately to choose a president from among the three candidates who received the most electoral votes.

No where does this say they must win lawsuits.  This is uncharted territory so I am not sure what will happen.

yet you keep posting about what will happen...
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 09, 2020, 12:33:15 PM
Until then this America, innocent until proven guilty.  Its in our constitution. 

This statement only applies depending what side you're on.  Trump had a 2 year investigation into Russia and himself.  Mueller said there was no evidence.  Yet the house democrats still voted to impeach him.  How was he proven guilty?  And all while the investigation was going on, did the fake news give him the luxury of being innocent until proven guilty?  Did any TDS people do the same?  The answer to both are no. He was guilty in their eyes from day 1.

BRB helping OJ buy the new Bronco.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on November 09, 2020, 12:42:38 PM
please show where "public" is a synonym of "registered voters"
Geezus, that pissant is ignorant.   Quite willfully it appears from quotes I see.

Voters decide nothing if their vote is stolen or deleted.  You would think even an ignorant little dork could figure that out.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2020, 12:57:57 PM
Public is a synonym of registered voters.   Voters (registered) decide elections.  Period.    Is your argument really that America doesn't do democracy?

You must have a Dummies Guide to Vocabulary dictionary, because no dictionary I ever saw said "Registered Voters" is a synonym for ANYTHING!!   :wtf:

And America (on the Federal Level) does NOT "do democracy".  The states have the task of selecting electors.  That's done however they deem appropriate.  It used to be that State Legislatures selected them (not democracy), and only 2 early states held elections.  Eventually, all states adopted a popular vote for selecting electors.  In most states, the majority gets to cast all that state's electoral votes for their candidate.  In a few states, the electors are divided based on the ratio of the top candidates in the state vote.  That can avoid disenfranchising the minority in each election for those states, but it also can split the vote to a degree that that state basically cancels itself out of the election.

So, the answer is "depends on what election you're talking about".  State elections are almost all democratic with the majority winning. 

National elections are not democratic.  You should know this by now.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2020, 12:59:25 PM
I thought this thread was supposed to be for COLLECTING the reported instances of election fraud,
not turn it into a debate (AGAIN) on the OPINIONS of a certain someone.

 :stopjack:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2020, 01:04:10 PM
And they won the case to observe. 

And then the vote counting officials moved the counting machines to the back where no one could see them.

One side can't win when the other side keeps moving the goal posts.  Those polling officials are being looked into by the FBI for ignoring the court order and election interfering -- federal charges.
Title: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 09, 2020, 01:33:05 PM
Omni your position has been noted.  You want evidence to be filed in court and people tried and prosecuted before you will believe that fraud has happened in this election.

Obviously, you’ll have to wait on that because you are asking for something that hasn’t been done yet and they are still collecting the evidence and making a case.

If you have nothing else new to add, then stop replying to every post.
Title: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 09, 2020, 01:33:17 PM
Rudy Giuliani says they have evidence of dead people voting big time in the 2020 elections.

https://youtu.be/uaVEppGkTQw
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 09, 2020, 01:36:57 PM
Omni your position has been noted.  You want evidence to be filed in court and people tried and prosecuted before you will believe that fraud has happened in this election.

Obviously, you’ll have to wait on that because you are asking for something that hasn’t been done yet and they are still collecting the evidence and making a case.

If you have nothing else new to add, then stop replying to every post.

Understood, I have cut down my reply's in general but I will refrain from posting in this thread. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: astroboy on November 09, 2020, 02:03:25 PM
No evidence of fraud? HUH

https://youtu.be/fGRzqdGycaY
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2020, 02:18:02 PM
PA took a day off from counting.  Why?  Giving the "suddenly found" ballots time to be produced?

MI did the same.  Coincidentally, the breaks occurred just as the tally reached close to 90% and Trump was way ahead -- so far ahead that if he received at least half the votes from remaining ballots, it would be mathematically impossible for Biden to make up the difference.

After the break, suddenly more ballots for Biden were counted.  Some precincts where Biden only polled in the 60% neighborhood voted 100% for Biden.   :wtf:

When you KNOW something is shady, but weren't allowed to be involved in the count closely enough to catch them redhanded, JDLR may be all you have to start an investigation with.

JDLR is a Vegas term used in many other settings.  it's why procedures exist and must be strictly followed and enforced.  These "irregularities" should set off everybody's JDLR alarms!   :shake:

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 09, 2020, 02:20:02 PM
Alright what is a better method?   Why is there no court cases with all this evidence you say exist?  It would be the easiest way to prove your side.  Then I can view those documents and agree with you there is fraud. Why bring dozens of court cases with no evidence of wrong doing?  If you had proof of murder you would take it to court,  if you don't well than actions speak louder than words.

I did not address the information you gathered - just the methodology on how you got that information. Anyone who went to graduate school knows the difference between "research" and simply searching for things on the internet. It's a rude awakening if you haven't understood it by your final thesis paper.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2020, 02:41:08 PM
I did not address the information you gathered - just the methodology on how you got that information. Anyone who went to graduate school knows the difference between "research" and simply searching for things on the internet. It's a rude awakening if you haven't understood it by your final thesis paper.

Unless you're Joe Biden, of course.  He was plagiarizing in school, and as a candidate and elected official.   

I guess when you're in the protected party, getting caught cheating is just expected.  Not even a slap on the wrist.
Title: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 09, 2020, 02:46:51 PM
Anyone have any info about this Dominion voting software?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201110/1c611fa1956a17d399c1be634b2fc673.jpg)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/in_30_states_a_computer_system_known_to_be_defective_is_tallying_votes.html
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 09, 2020, 03:12:15 PM
Anyone have any info about this Dominion voting software?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201110/1c611fa1956a17d399c1be634b2fc673.jpg)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/in_30_states_a_computer_system_known_to_be_defective_is_tallying_votes.html

I read briefly on ARFCOM that it has questionable ownership by top level Dems such as Feinstein and the like. I saw one purported screen shot that gave a partial value to a Trump vote and giving full value to Biden. it was along the lines of .86 for each Trump vote and 1.0 for a Biden vote.

https://www.dominionvoting.com/ (https://www.dominionvoting.com/)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2020, 03:18:07 PM
If you had a speeding ticket issued when you KNOW you were doing the speed limit, and the laser being used by the Cops had a known design flaw which could result in a higher-than-actual speed readout, would you just concede and pay the fine, or would you contest the ticket on the grounds that method and resources the Cops used can't be trusted?


Officials raised concerns for years about security of
US voting machines, software systems


Quote
The Dominion Voting Systems, which has been used in multiple states where fraud has been alleged
in the 2020 U.S. Election, was rejected three times by data communications experts from the Texas
Secretary of State and Attorney General’s Office for failing to meet basic security standards.


Unlike Texas, other states certified the use of the system, including Pennsylvania, where voter fraud
has been alleged on multiple counts this week.

Dominion Voting Systems, a Canadian company headquartered in Denver, is one of three companies
primarily used in U.S. elections. The others are Election Systems and Software and Texas based-Hart
InterCivic.

The Dominion system was implemented in North Carolina and Nevada, where election results are being
challenged, and in Georgia and Michigan, where a “ glitch” that occurred reversed thousands of votes for
Republican President Donald Trump to Democrat Joe Biden.

While Biden declared victory Saturday in his U.S. presidential race against Trump, the Trump campaign
is launching several challenges to vote counts in states across the country, alleging fraud.

Dominion’s Democracy Suite system was chosen for statewide implementation in New Mexico in 2013,
the first year it was rejected by the state of Texas.

Louisiana modernized its mail ballot system by implementing Dominion’s ImageCast Central software
statewide; Clark County, Nevada, implemented the same system in 2017. Roughly 52 counties in New
York, 65 counties in Michigan and the entire state of Colorado and New Mexico use Dominion systems.

According to a Penn Wharton study, "The Business of Voting," Dominion Voting Systems reached
approximately 71 million voters in 1,635 jurisdictions in the U.S. in 2016.

Dominion “got into trouble” with several subsidiaries it used over alleged cases of fraud. One subsidiary
is Smartmatic, a company “that has played a significant role in the U.S. market over the last decade,”
according to a report published by UK-based AccessWire.

Litigation over Smartmatic “glitches” alleges they impacted the 2010 and 2013 mid-term elections in the
Philippines, raising questions of cheating and fraud. An independent review of the source codes used in
the machines found multiple problems, which concluded, “The software inventory provided by Smartmatic
is inadequate, … which brings into question the software credibility,” ABS-CBN reported.

Smartmatic’s chairman is a member of the British House of Lords, Mark Malloch Brown, a former vice-chairman
of George Soros’ Investment Funds, former vice-president at the World Bank, lead international partner at Sawyer
Miller, a political consulting firm, and former vice-chair of the World Economic Forum who “remains deeply involved
in international affairs.” The company’s reported globalist ties have caused members of the media and government
officials to raise questions about its involvement in the U.S. electoral process.

In January, U.S. lawmakers expressed concern about foreign involvement through these companies’ creation and
oversight of U.S. election equipment. Top executives from the three major companies were grilled by both Democratic
and Republican members of the U.S. House Committee on House Administration about the integrity of their systems.

Also in January, election integrity activists expressed concern “about what is known as supply-chain security, the
tampering of election equipment during manufacturing,” the Associated Press reported. “A document submitted to
North Carolina elections officials by ES&S last year shows, for example, that it has manufacturing operations in the
Philippines.”

All three companies “have faced criticism over a lack of transparency and reluctance to open up their proprietary systems
to outside testing,” the Associated Press reported. In 2019, the AP found that these companies “had long skimped on
security in favor of convenience and operated under a shroud of financial and operational secrecy despite their critical
role in elections.”

In its third examination of Dominion systems in 2019, Texas officials once again rejected using it after identifying “multiple
hardware and software issues that preclude the Office of the Texas Secretary of State from determining that the Democracy
Suite 5.5-A system satisfies each of the voting-system requirements set forth in the Texas Election Code.”

The examiners raised specific concerns about whether the system “was suitable for its intended purpose; operates efficiently
and accurately; and is safe from fraudulent or unauthorized manipulation.”

They concluded that Dominion systems and corresponding hardware devices did not meet Texas Election Code certification
standards.

Last December, a group of Democratic politicians sent a letter to leaders of private equity firms that own the major election
vendors asking them to disclose information including ownership, finances and research investments.

"The voting machine lobby, led by the biggest company, ES&S, believes they are above the law,” Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore.,
a member of the Intelligence Committee and co-signer of the letter, said. “They have not had anybody hold them accountable
even on the most basic matters.”

ES&S Chief Executive Tom Burt dismissed the criticism, telling NBC News that it was “inevitable and impossible to answer,”
and called on Congress to implement “greater oversight of the national election process.”

“There are going to be people who have opinions from now until eternity about the security of the equipment, the bias of those
companies who are producing the equipment, the bias of the election administrators who are conducting the election,” Burt told
NBC News.

“What the American people need is a system that can be audited, and then those audits have to happen and be demonstrated
to the American public,” Burt said.

Burt argued last year in an op-ed published by Roll Call that national regulatory oversight was needed, including requirements
for paper backups of individual votes, mandatory post-election audits and additional resources for the U.S. Election Assistance
Commission.

NBC News examined publicly available online shipping records for ES&S and found that many parts for U.S. election machines,
including electronics and tablets, were made in China and the Philippines. When it raised concerns about the potential for
technology theft or sabotage, Burt said the overseas facilities were “very secure” and the final assembly of machines occurs in
the U.S.

The AP also surveyed the election software being used by all 50 states, the District of Columbia and territories. Roughly 10,000
election jurisdictions nationwide were using Windows 7 or an older operating system in 2019 to create ballots, program voting
machines, tally votes and report counts, the AP found. Windows 7 reached the end of its operational life in January 2020.

After Jan. 14, Microsoft stopped providing technical support and producing “patches” to fix software vulnerabilities, making
Windows 7 easy to hack unless U.S. jurisdictions paid a fee to receive security updates through 2023, the AP found.

According to its assessment, multiple states were affected by the end of Windows 7 support, including Arizona, Florida, Georgia,
Iowa, Indiana, Michigan, North Carolina, many counties in Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/officials-raised-concerns-for-years-about-security-of-us-voting-machines-software-systems/ar-BB1aQvr0
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 09, 2020, 03:22:07 PM
I did not address the information you gathered - just the methodology on how you got that information. Anyone who went to graduate school knows the difference between "research" and simply searching for things on the internet. It's a rude awakening if you haven't understood it by your final thesis paper.
You went to grad school?  :hmm:

You're practically an #almostrealdoctor too.   ;D
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2020, 03:24:57 PM
I commented 4 years ago on how you don't let a machine owned and run by people of obvious bias FOR Democrats and animus AGAINST the Republican Party sell you their voting machines.  Just the APPEARANCE of bias in the product's design is enough to cast doubt on the results if the numbers are contested.

If the DEMOCRATS want to win, and the states by machines from companies with strong DEMOCRAT ties, it's obvious this is just a ticking time bomb.  Are there no other companies in the US (versus international ones) that can produce hardware and software to count a bunch of ballots accurately and without security concerns? 

When you pick the voting system vendor, and it "just happens to be" your wife's cousin, you're going to get in trouble eventually when fraud is accused, not only for collusion, but for violating gov't spending laws.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2020, 03:31:31 PM
I searched for the URL, so I don't think this was posted yet.

The person being interviewed better hire some security for himself.  Just saying.

If you haven't watched the other videos posted, this one should be watched no matter what.

https://youtu.be/wfTvvsnGtVg
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 09, 2020, 03:33:47 PM
I searched for the URL, so I don't think this was posted yet.

The person being interviewed better hire some security for himself.  Just saying.

If you haven't watched the other videos posted, this one should be watched no matter what.
SNIP
Don't want to get "Epsteined" 

And dunno if CMO wants bedroom videos of those who might testify.   :o
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: astroboy on November 09, 2020, 06:48:03 PM
https://youtu.be/DhxqPLGs5GI
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2020, 06:58:03 PM
The sheer number and ways the Democrats cheated makes investigating each accusation or "anomaly" very difficult the do in time for the electoral college to meet.

I personally think the entire election is tainted, The entire cluster f*ck needs to be ruled FUBAR and get on with the remedy. 

If anyone in other states wants to blame someone for disenfranchising them, they have only the Democrats who tried to rig the election to blame.

When a few kids act up, the whole class is no longer allowed to take field trips.  That's how life works.  Unless these problems are eliminated, no future elections should be trusted.  It's not like these were surprises.  The cities in question have a decades long history of known voter intimidate, fraud, bribery, counting "issues", and lack of transparency.  It just that this time, the ballots Biden was behind could not be made up in a short time, so "anomalies" were required.

This crap makes me sick, and  I hope Trump never concedes. As far as I'm concerned, the Dems are trying this one last time to use the system against Trump and remove him from office.  They didn't win as much as they made it so they couldn't lose.

No one should be surprised.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: RSN172 on November 09, 2020, 08:10:04 PM
So let’s say the EC meets and votes on Dec14 and Biden is selected as POTUS.  Come Jan 20 he is sworn into office.  Shortly thereafter, positive overwhelming indisputable evidence comes out of Democratic cheating and “stealing “ the election and Trump was the rightful winner of the election.  Will Biden be removed from office and Trump reinstated as POTUS?  I kinda wish this would happen as I would love to see what will happen should such a thing occur.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 09, 2020, 09:00:42 PM
Self-explanatory audio recording

https://youtu.be/2hI73AprGs4

This audio evidence has been deleted and censored by YouTube.

Anyone who listened to it before it was deleted understand what a smoking gun it was.

I think they are going to try to remove the best evidence as quickly as possible, leaving only weak circumstantial evidence so as to make people look like stupid conspiracy theorists. They have been doing that with all the solid evidence in recent years for many things, including 9/11, Sandy Hook, Pizzagate, etc. so nobody can find the solid stuff and just say the evidence is weak.
Title: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 09, 2020, 09:04:41 PM
Folks need to post stuff for distribution using alternative sites like Parler.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2020, 09:35:37 PM
Folks need to post stuff for distribution using alternative sites like Parler.

That, and anything you want to save can be posted to https://Archive.today. 

Don't trust the WaybackMachine site, which is Archive.org.  It's been known to lose certain classifications of archived material.

This makes sure you have a true, provable snapshot of anything important.  Just have to remember to do the archiving.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2020, 09:36:17 PM
So let’s say the EC meets and votes on Dec14 and Biden is selected as POTUS.  Come Jan 20 he is sworn into office.  Shortly thereafter, positive overwhelming indisputable evidence comes out of Democratic cheating and “stealing “ the election and Trump was the rightful winner of the election.  Will Biden be removed from office and Trump reinstated as POTUS?  I kinda wish this would happen as I would love to see what will happen should such a thing occur.

There have been stolen elections ever since there was a United States of America.  I think once the election is formally judged finished, and the winner is in office, it's over.  Period.

Afterward, if fraud is found that reverses the election, the individuals caught can be prosecuted and put in prison to discourage that in future elections.  But, there will likely be no way to force Biden out unless he or his campaign are proven to have conspired or participated in the fraud, it becomes an issue of punishing the candidate for the acts of others.  Of course, a man of integrity who finds out the election was invalid would resign.  The problem there is the VP takes over or resigns.  Then the Speaker of the House.  Basically, there's no Constitutional provision to undo an election result and inaugurate the rightful winner.  Perhaps the Supreme Court could declare the electoral process invalid due to state fraud, but I'm not sure that can be done.  If it could be, then they could order the electoral college to meet a second time with the valid electors there.

Either way, Trump could sue the corrupt states for costing him the election.  At that point, he might be able to demand reimbursement of his personal funds spent on the campaign and the money spent by donors.  If a casino has irregularities during a game, they cancel the bets and give all the players their money back.  States that rig an election should be held liable for the money wasted on a no-chance-to-win election.

From a legal perspective, the states legislatures have the duty and power to select their electors.  If a state disenfranchises its voters by committing fraud, it doesn't really affect the electoral college.  It affects who the electors cast their votes for, but in the electoral process, the state did its thing -- they decided who gets their votes, and they gave their votes to that person.  So, Constitutionally and Federal-law-wise, what happened at the state level is irrelevant.  The electoral votes stand.

Now, if a state's voters were defrauded, they have the ability to throw those officials out, the state (AG) can file charges, or the FBI can come in if the election didn't follow the state's election laws.  That fixes the next election, but the damage to the recent election is done and will remain. 

Once Trump concedes, he's done.  Best thing is for him to contest the results as long as possible. 

There are remedies at the state and local level that may include voters voting the office holder out of office in a recall election.  There's no such recall provision for President.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: eyeeatingfish on November 09, 2020, 09:41:58 PM
I am going to sit and wait for the proper authorities to sort through this one. Please guys, don't jump on the conspiracy theory bandwagons with the circular logic.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 09, 2020, 09:51:40 PM
Curious to know which one is “conspiracy” and which one is conspiracy.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 09, 2020, 09:53:00 PM
I am going to sit and wait for the proper authorities to sort through this one. Please guys, don't jump on the conspiracy theory bandwagons with the circular logic.

Why are you telling anyone what to do or not do if you're not engaged enough to bother?

 :sleeping:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 09, 2020, 11:05:12 PM
From Sean Davis:

In a new sworn affidavit, a whistleblower with the Clark County Elections Department in Nevada claims Nevada poll workers fabricated proof of residence data for illegal voters. So far, Nevada Attorney General @AaronDFordNV has taken no action to investigate credible fraud claims.

(https://i.imgur.com/v6Q9G21.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/GWVIeva.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/7vMtl3t.png)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aieahound on November 10, 2020, 01:24:10 AM
Edit: this is a duplicate post from someone else. My bad.
Is it for real?
If so, unreal. (Said in pidgin accent)

https://youtu.be/fGRzqdGycaY
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 10, 2020, 01:27:14 AM
[snipped duplicate video URL]

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=38726.msg348293#msg348293
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aieahound on November 10, 2020, 01:29:51 AM
Hey Flapp,

Go check out the Demoralization trolls thread since you’re still awake. 
And answer the question.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 10, 2020, 03:00:26 AM
Hey Flapp,

Go check out the Demoralization trolls thread since you’re still awake. 
And answer the question.  :rofl:

 :stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 10, 2020, 03:01:11 AM
Excellent synopsis of ALL THE PROBLEMS in this election.

https://youtu.be/R5ki6S-WsKU
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: groveler on November 10, 2020, 03:26:32 AM
Excellent synopsis of ALL THE PROBLEMS in this election.

https://youtu.be/R5ki6S-WsKU
Thanks!  Good post.
I'm on satellite so I have no idea what the rest of America gets
in the way of news.  I get mine via internet so I can cross check
facts, but I suspect Tucker isn't widely watched, else we would
not have so many jackwagons voting Democrat, Or as I suspect
most Americans are idiots.


Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 10, 2020, 03:48:19 AM
Thanks!  Good post.
I'm on satellite so I have no idea what the rest of America gets
in the way of news.  I get mine via internet so I can cross check
facts, but I suspect Tucker isn't widely watched, else we would
not have so many jackwagons voting Democrat, Or as I suspect
most Americans are idiots.

Tucker has made some blunders, but overall, I think his reporting and commentary show the rest of the media what they ought at least try to do.

He's got fantastic ratings, so I assume if Hawaii residents aren't watching, at least half of the rest of country is. 

I like that he brings on Liberals and is very direct but polite until they start monopolizing the interview to give a bunch of lame talking points.  Then he tears into them.  I've seen the lightbulb pop up above the heads of guests after he explain to them why they were wrong or had inaccurate data.  It's a wonderful feeling when someone who thought they were just there to give their side realizes their side is just plain wrong and they admit it on the air.   :rofl:

I wish all the journalists took their jobs as seriously as Tucker seems to.  I'm not expecting perfection, just the truth -- as close to the gospel as we can get.  I want to form my own opinions so I can call them "mine."  If I only adopted the opinions of news channel show hosts, I'd be lying if I regurgitated their opinions as my own.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 10, 2020, 07:01:25 AM
Thanks!  Good post.
I'm on satellite so I have no idea what the rest of America gets
in the way of news.  I get mine via internet so I can cross check
facts, but I suspect Tucker isn't widely watched, else we would
not have so many jackwagons voting Democrat, Or as I suspect
most Americans are idiots.
In October Tucker Carlson had the largest audience rating in all of cable news shows with an average of 5.4 million viewers per night. That's a miniscule portion of the electorate, but better than nothing, which is the goal of the progressive/tech/swamp fascists.

About 90 minutes after the show airs (8-9 Eastern, 3-4 Hawaii) search for "Blue Collar" on youtube (yeah, I've asked  him to move to Rumble, but so far...). The content will be removed in less than 12 hours, because, you know...

(https://i.imgur.com/KAy2tMa.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 10, 2020, 07:05:12 AM
is there a shift on Fox News content? Last night they covered several topics of election fraud.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 10, 2020, 08:40:43 AM
That, and anything you want to save can be posted to https://Archive.today. 

Don't trust the WaybackMachine site, which is Archive.org.  It's been known to lose certain classifications of archived material.

This makes sure you have a true, provable snapshot of anything important.  Just have to remember to do the archiving.

I'd never heard of this. Looks like they are in Iceland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today

However "Archive.today records only text and images, excluding video" so that is problematic.

For downloading YouTube, "4K Video Downloader" is quite good.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 10, 2020, 08:51:00 AM
I am going to sit and wait for the proper authorities to sort through this one. Please guys, don't jump on the conspiracy theory bandwagons with the circular logic.

I am interested to know what you mean by "circular logic" after having seen all the evidence posted so far. Obviously you have seen it, for such an important topic as our national election, all posted conveniently here (except for the one censored so far).
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 10, 2020, 09:12:34 AM
"More Than 10,000 Dead People Cast Ballots in Michigan, Analysis Shows"

https://www.theepochtimes.com/10000-dead-people-returned-mail-in-ballots-in-michigan-analysis-shows_3573209.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-11-10-2 (https://www.theepochtimes.com/10000-dead-people-returned-mail-in-ballots-in-michigan-analysis-shows_3573209.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-11-10-2)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 10, 2020, 09:13:21 AM
"A Stolen Presidential Election in the Nation’s Election Fraud Capital"

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/11/stolen-presidential-election-nations-election-daniel-greenfield/ (https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/11/stolen-presidential-election-nations-election-daniel-greenfield/)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 10, 2020, 09:18:32 AM
I am interested to know what you mean by "circular logic" after having seen all the evidence posted so far. Obviously you have seen it, for such an important topic as our national election, all posted conveniently here (except for the one censored so far).
I'm surprised more "feel the Bern" types aren't questioning primary results now that some of these irregularities are coming out.  I see rumblings of it from those I know supported Bernie, but not the outrage that I thought would come for those types, which I view as leaning toward quite radical. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 10, 2020, 09:18:52 AM
"10 Reasons Pennsylvania’s Election Results May Be ‘Irredeemably Compromised’"

https://pjmedia.com/election/tyler-o-neil/2020/11/10/10-reasons-pennsylvanias-election-results-may-be-irredeemably-compromised-n1136044 (https://pjmedia.com/election/tyler-o-neil/2020/11/10/10-reasons-pennsylvanias-election-results-may-be-irredeemably-compromised-n1136044)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 10, 2020, 09:34:44 AM
An attorney and former Michigan Assistant Attorney General was a certified poll challenger at the TCF Center (Exhibit A – Affidavit of Zachary Larsen).

15. As Mr. Larsen watched the process, he was concerned that ballots were being processed without confirmation that the voter was an eligible voter in the poll book because of information he had received from other poll challengers (Exhibit A).

16. Mr. Larsen reviewed the running list of scanned in ballots in the computer system, where it appeared that the voter had already been counted as having voted. An official operating the computer then appeared to assign this ballot to a different voter as he observed a completely different name that was added to the list of voters at the bottom of a running tab of processed ballots on the right side of the screen (Exhibit A).

17. Mr. Larsen was concerned that this practice of assigning names and numbers indicated that a ballot was being counted for a non-eligible voter who was not in either the poll book or the supplemental poll book. From his observation of the computer screen, the voters were not in the official poll book. Moreover, this appeared to be the case for the majority of the voters whose ballots he personally observed being scanned (Exhibit A).

18. Because of Mr. Larsen’s concern, he stepped behind the table and walked over to a spot behind where the first official was conducting her work. Understanding health concerns due to COVID-19, he attempted to stand as far away from this official as he reasonably could while also being able to visually observe the names on the supplemental poll book and on the envelopes (Exhibit A).

19. As soon as Mr. Larsen moved to a location where he could observe the process by which the first official at this table was confirming the eligibility of the voters to vote, the first official immediately stopped working and glared at him. He stood still until she began to loudly and aggressively tell him that he could not stand where he was standing. She indicated that he needed to remain in front of the computer screen where he could not see what the worker was doing (Exhibit A).

20. Both officials then began to tell Mr. Larsen that because of COVID, he needed to be six feet away from the table. He responded that he could not see and read the supplemental poll book from six feet away, and that he was attempting to keep his distance to the extent possible (Exhibit A).

21. Just minutes before at another table, a supervisor had explained that the rules allowed Mr. Larsen to visually observe what he needed to see and then step back away. Likewise, on Election Day, he had been allowed to stand at equivalent distance from poll books in Lansing and East Lansing precincts without any problem. With this understanding, he remained in a position to observe the supplemental poll book (Exhibit A).

22. Both officials indicated that Mr. Larsen could not remain in a position that would allow him to observe their activities; the officials indicated they were going to get their supervisor (Exhibit A).

23. When the supervisor arrived, she reiterated that Mr. Larsen was not allowed to stand behind the official with the supplemental poll book, and he needed to stand in front of the computer screen. Mr. Larsen told her that was not true, and that he was statutorily allowed to observe the process, including the poll book (Exhibit A).

24. The supervisor then pivoted to arguing that Mr. Larsen was not six feet away from the first official. Mr. Larsen told her that he was attempting to remain as far away as he could while still being able to read the names on the poll book (Exhibit A).

25. The supervisor then stood next to the chair immediately to the left of the first official and indicated that Mr. Larsen was “not six feet away from” the supervisor and that she intended to sit in the chair next to the official with the poll book, so he would need to leave (Exhibit A).

26. This supervisor had not been at the table at any time during the process, and she had responsibility for numerous ACVBs. Further, the supervisor’s choice of chairs was approximately three feet to the left of the first official and therefore in violation of the six-foot distance rule (Exhibit A).

27. Accordingly, Mr. Larsen understood that this was a ruse to keep him away from a place where he could observe the confirmation of names in the supplemental poll book. The supervisor began to repeatedly tell him that he “needed to leave” so he responded that he would go speak with someone else and fill out a challenge form (Exhibit A).

28. After Mr. Larsen observed and uncovered the fraud that was taking place and had the confrontation with the supervisor, he left the counting room to consult with another attorney about the matter around 1:30 p.m. to 2:00 p.m. (Exhibit A).

29. It was at this point that election officials stopped permitting any further poll challengers to enter the counting room, including Mr. Larsen (Exhibit A).

30. Election officials never allowed Mr. Larsen to re-enter the counting room to fulfill his duties as a poll challenger after he had discovered the fraud which was taking place.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on November 10, 2020, 11:15:10 AM
Good stuff, no shock to anyone.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 10, 2020, 11:51:12 AM
Reference article at Epoch Times...

(https://i.imgur.com/rwr7ACU.png)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 10, 2020, 12:02:07 PM
Not sure how long this video will remain on youtube. The title of the story is "Social worker charged with election fraud", and is immediately followed by the youtube fact correction notification:

Robust safeguards help ensure the integrity of elections and results.

You can't make this shit up!

Plus, her being a social worker and all (all of whom are selfless with a heart of gold dedicated to helping others) for developmentally disabled people, I'm sure she was just trying to help out those 134 people and voted for whomever they told her to vote for... right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQM4FhsBsKg&feature=emb_logo
Title: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 10, 2020, 12:09:55 PM
Update from the former auditor that made a list about the red flags.

https://monsterhunternation.com/2020/11/09/election-2020-the-more-fuckery-update/

Below was his original list

https://monsterhunternation.com/2020/11/05/the-2020-election-fuckery-is-afoot/
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 10, 2020, 12:16:05 PM
Lt Gen McInerney talks about “Hammer” and “Scorecard” program developed by the CIA and how it is used to tamper with election results.

https://noqreport.com/2020/11/04/hammer-and-scorecard-lt-gen-mcinerney-explains-the-election-hack-by-democrats/
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 10, 2020, 12:28:41 PM


Lawsuit Targets Illegal Ballot Harvesting in Michigan
The fraud was committed, the suit claims, at the behest of Detroit and Wayne County officials

https://www.stevegruber.com/2020/11/lawsuit-targets-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-michigan/ (https://www.stevegruber.com/2020/11/lawsuit-targets-illegal-ballot-harvesting-in-michigan/)

Excerpt:

Among those referenced in the suit is Jessy Jacob, a woman of color who has worked for the City of Detroit for more than 3 decades. In her sworn statement she outlines  a direct attack on the election by the illegal altering of possibly tens of thousands of ballots. She says she was ordered to participate in the illegal activity beginning in September and continuing through November 4th, when she was told to leave the TCF Center in Detroit for raising too many questions about what was going on around her.

In her sworn affidavit, Jacob says the illegalities went on for weeks beginning in September when she was working at the election headquarters and was ordered along with co-workers by her supervisors to unlawfully change dates to alter ballots, instruct voters to cast ballots to vote for Democrats and were even told to follow voters into the voting booth and tell them how to vote. Jacob says voters were told specifically by employees to Vote straight Democrat or for Joe Biden. Jacob says she was among a group of 70 to 80 employees all being told to do the same thing by supervisors in Detroit.

Link to actual filing:

https://www.greatlakesjc.org/cases/costantino_v_detroit/ (https://www.greatlakesjc.org/cases/costantino_v_detroit/)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 10, 2020, 12:39:22 PM
I'm surprised more "feel the Bern" types aren't questioning primary results now that some of these irregularities are coming out.  I see rumblings of it from those I know supported Bernie, but not the outrage that I thought would come for those types, which I view as leaning toward quite radical.

Bernie was in on it.   They needed the Clintons to bail out the DNC.  So say Bernie was president, is this the kind of leader who we want?  Someone who remains silent after getting screwed.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 10, 2020, 12:50:51 PM
Giuliani outlines the current state of the lawsuits (11 minutes):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xurB9TiCWE&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 10, 2020, 12:55:48 PM
"More Than 10,000 Dead People Cast Ballots in Michigan, Analysis Shows"

https://www.theepochtimes.com/10000-dead-people-returned-mail-in-ballots-in-michigan-analysis-shows_3573209.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-11-10-2 (https://www.theepochtimes.com/10000-dead-people-returned-mail-in-ballots-in-michigan-analysis-shows_3573209.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-11-10-2)

You'd have to be brain dead anyway to vote for Biden.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 10, 2020, 12:57:12 PM
"Evidence of Voter Fraud in the 2020 US Presidential Election"

https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2020/11/10/evidence-of-voter-fraud-in-the-2020-us-presidential-election/ (https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2020/11/10/evidence-of-voter-fraud-in-the-2020-us-presidential-election/)

Excerpt:

In this article, I will argue that there are many lines of evidence the combination of which justifies us thinking that significant voter fraud occurred in the 2020 US election which increased the chances of Joe Biden winning in key swing states.

Before turning specifically to the 2020 election, it is important to note that election fraud is not unheard of in the United States. This is worth establishing because if we think election fraud almost never happens then we will have a higher bar of evidence for the justification of any particular claim of fraud.

In recent decades, there have been over 1,200 known instances of voter fraud due to which 20 US elections had to be overturned to declare a new winner (Heritage, 2020). Of these, 15 were overturned due to fraud involving mail based ballots (Lucas, 2020). This isn’t surprising since mail in ballots have long been noted to be particularly vulnerable to fraud. This is why most European nations have either banned absentee voting or require an ID for someone to obtain such a ballot (Lott, 2020).
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 10, 2020, 01:31:32 PM
Bernie was in on it.   They needed the Clintons to bail out the DNC.  So say Bernie was president, is this the kind of leader who we want?  Someone who remains silent after getting screwed.
Not about Bernie.  About his supporters.  I know one personally who was in Bernie's HI caucus in 2016.  They were very disappointed in 2016, almost rabid.  I'm surprised they are pretty quiet this year.  Yeah, if Bernie was in or not, whatevers.  His supporters aren't usually the most rational. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 10, 2020, 04:35:53 PM
Supposedly there's supposed to be coverage to expose voter fraud on Hannity.  It's on now (4-5pm).  It's also replaying at 8 pm.  I'll be at dinner at a friend's house.  Hopefully I'll catch highlight later. 

I caught part of Kayleigh McEnany a little while ago.  :hmm: 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 10, 2020, 04:48:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj4fF7RX994
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 10, 2020, 05:27:01 PM
Supposedly there's supposed to be coverage to expose voter fraud on Hannity.  It's on now (4-5pm).  It's also replaying at 8 pm.  I'll be at dinner at a friend's house.  Hopefully I'll catch highlight later. 

I caught part of Kayleigh McEnany a little while ago.  :hmm:

i'd like to catch a part of kayleigh...
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 10, 2020, 05:27:16 PM
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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 10, 2020, 05:55:12 PM
i'd like to catch a part of kayleigh...

no. mine.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 10, 2020, 06:53:39 PM
Great episode of Timcast from yesterday. Former editor of Vice did some digging and has apparently found all sorts of Chinese tentacles wrapped around our government, media, education, you name it. This raises the possibility that the stolen election has national security implications that go way beyond a dirty old man and his crackhead son stuffing their pockets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhsKxxZCwQo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Kuleana on November 10, 2020, 07:04:56 PM
Great episode of Timcast from yesterday. Former editor of Vice did some digging and has apparently found all sorts of Chinese tentacles wrapped around our government, media, education, you name it.
Question:  If the Chinese had their stooges influencing the US government all this time, how does that explain the current military provocations and surrounding China, with forward military operating bases?

Answer: The Chinese have no substantial influence, in the US empire.  If anything, the real enemy is located, within the borders.  The Chinese are nothing, but another manufactured enemy, to draw/divert attention away, from the power elites, deep state, or whatever you wish to label them that operate behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 10, 2020, 10:20:03 PM
"Office of the President Elect" not an official office by any means. Fake Seal. Fake Office.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 10, 2020, 10:31:12 PM
"Office of the President Elect" not an official office by any means. Fake Seal. Fake Office.
It all fits in perfectly with the Fake Election.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 10, 2020, 11:33:51 PM
Question:  If the Chinese had their stooges influencing the US government all this time, how does that explain the current military provocations and surrounding China, with forward military operating bases?

Answer: The Chinese have no substantial influence, in the US empire.  If anything, the real enemy is located, within the borders.  The Chinese are nothing, but another manufactured enemy, to draw/divert attention away, from the power elites, deep state, or whatever you wish to label them that operate behind the scenes.

On the contrary the colleges are all pushing Marxist indoctrination and we have BLM in the streets burning cities with some obviously significant monetary backing. Joe Biden was taking money from them and even the NBA follows their policies strictly. We know Google/Alphabet plays well with them and the tech giants are all about censorship, and even AOC is creating a list of undesirables which is the precursor to the Social Credit System. The news media that called the election for Biden wants to protect them from any criticism and even went so far as to say its a racist crime to refer to the origin country of covid-19. Put it all together and it looks like we have been fairly well infiltrated.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 11, 2020, 06:02:37 AM
I have been remiss in posting much in this thread because I think there has been a lot confusion around voter fraud compared to alleged voter fraud and the lawsuits that have been filed so far BY TRUMP. As of yesterday there have been zero lawsuits FILED BY TRUMP that allege voter fraud. They have filed lawsuits alleging voting laws and rules violations. Not actual fraud. The lawsuits attempt to make the states follow all their own laws and federal laws. This isn’t voter fraud unless votes have been changed and so far there is no allegations nor proof from any filed lawsuits BY TRUMP that allege voter fraud. There are people here who are crying out that there is no proof in the lawsuits that there is any voter fraud. These people are listening to the Main Stream Media and are idiots for doing so. The media would have you think that all the lawsuits filed so far BY TRUMP are voter fraud lawsuits. They are not. They are just to force the states to follow the law. That is until last night.

So far all the evidence presented here has been alleged as of yesterday. But TRUMP has now filed his first lawsuit alleging voter fraud in Michigan. If my memory is correct there are 5 sworn eyewitness testimonies and over 200 or 300 pages of these sworn testimonies. I have seen portions of this lawsuit and based on what I see there is eyewitness proof of voter fraud. So when some idiot people here have been saying there is no proof, it is because TRUMP has not filed any fraud lawsuits until now. And now there is eyewitness proof of voter fraud. I suspect TRUMP will file more voter fraud lawsuits against more states as his team accumulates evidence of this.

The rest of what I state here is strictly my opinion. While I feel there is a lot of voter fraud that occurred across the country, I feel it may be too little too late to do anything about it. All of the lawsuits that need to be filed need to be filed sooner. The longer the Trump team takes to file voter fraud lawsuits the better it is for the Democrats. These lawsuits, to be effective, need to be heard and ruled on and court orders made BEFORE the states vote in the electoral college. If any of the state supreme courts are dominated by Progressives I am afraid they will delay hearing these lawsuits to the point that they won’t rule until after the electoral college vote. Basically nullifying the effectiveness of the lawsuit. But my biggest concern is something that I am very much afraid of. And that is there won’t be enough proof of vote manipulation to change any results in Trump’s favor. To prove voter fraud I think is going to be quite simple and easy. To prove it is enough to change results is a monumental hill to climb. And I’m not sure it is going to happen. Don’t get me wrong, I want Trump to be the victor here. And I have faith in the system unless I see games played in the court systems. On a positive note, here in AZ as more of the votes are counted Trump continues to gain on Biden’s lead in our state. Last I heard we went from about 20k deficit to now 12k deficit. We still have 1% of the votes to count. Also, I heard that NC will go to Trump. So there still is a chance. Trump and his team are going to have to fight every tooth and nail to make sure only all legal votes are counted. I just don’t know if there is enough time and enough proof to change vote counts. We’ll just have to wait and see how this plays out.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 11, 2020, 06:04:44 AM
no. mine.

AOC gonna be all J
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 11, 2020, 09:45:53 AM
So I got a who's right and who's gonna be wrong with my co-worker.  He's saying that there will be no cases that prove there is any election fraud for any states by Jan 24 2021 starting from today and on.  So keep me posted.

I know Project Veritas is working on the MI USPS worker, but not complete yet.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 11, 2020, 10:15:07 AM
So I got a who's right and who's gonna be wrong with my co-worker.  He's saying that there will be no cases that prove there is any election fraud for any states by Jan 24 2021 starting from today and on.  So keep me posted.

I know Project Veritas is working on the MI USPS worker, but not complete yet.
You might be in trouble with the word "fraud". So far all the demonstrated "mistakes" have been attributed to "clerical errors".
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 11, 2020, 10:17:52 AM
You might be in trouble with the word "fraud". So far all the demonstrated "mistakes" have been attributed to "clerical errors".

"Not 1 court case will be upheld.  All will be thrown out" are the exact words.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 11, 2020, 11:11:05 AM
So I got a who's right and who's gonna be wrong with my co-worker.  He's saying that there will be no cases that prove there is any election fraud for any states by Jan 24 2021 starting from today and on.  So keep me posted.

I know Project Veritas is working on the MI USPS worker, but not complete yet.
I’m probably not a good source for these things as I do a lot of hit and miss these days. However, if I hear of any voter fraud cases that are ruled in Trump’s favor, I’ll post them if I see them.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 11, 2020, 11:15:13 AM
Submitted for your approval...

MIT PhD Analysis Reveals 138,000 Votes Switched from Trump to Biden in Michigan

On Tuesday Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, MIT PhD, shares the results of his team’s mathematical analysis of four major counties votes in Michigan in the Trump-Biden election that reveals an unfortunate truth of U.S. voting systems.

Dr. Shiva and his staff found evidence of Trump-to-Biden vote-switching of 138,000 VOTES in Michigan.

Here is the article about this and other anomalies:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/mit-phd-analysis-reveals-138000-votes-switched-trump-biden-michigan-must-see-video/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/mit-phd-analysis-reveals-138000-votes-switched-trump-biden-michigan-must-see-video/)

Here is the stand-alone (for the moment) youtube (70 minute) video of Dr. Ayyadurai explaining what he did and what the results of that analysis might mean:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztu5Y5obWPk&feature=emb_logo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztu5Y5obWPk&feature=emb_logo)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 11, 2020, 11:18:54 AM
Heard on the Gorka talk show this afternoon that the law in PA is that all ballots must have their signatures checked for them to be considered legitimate and then counted. He said that during the counting 2.6 million ballots were counted without validating the signature per the law.

I have not been able to verify this claim as of yet.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 11, 2020, 11:26:41 AM
Heard on the Gorka talk show this afternoon that the law in PA is that all ballots must have their signatures checked for them to be considered legitimate and then counted. He said that during the counting 2.6 million ballots were counted without validating the signature per the law.

I have not been able to verify this claim as of yet.
PA election officials: "No, we checked 'em all, every single one... go ahead, prove we didn't... just because you didn't see us check them..."

I saw that in one state (can't remember which) they had machines confirming signatures and they had the software set to the "40% match" threshold.

I have not been able to verify this claim as of yet.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 11, 2020, 11:28:51 AM
PA election officials: "No, we checked 'em all, every single one... go ahead, prove we didn't... just because you didn't see us check them..."

I saw that in one state (can't remember which) they had machines confirming signatures and they had the software set to the "40% match" threshold.

I have not been able to verify this claim as of yet.
It is going to be a tough road ahead for the Trump team.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 11, 2020, 12:27:20 PM
It is going to be a tough road ahead for the Trump team.
I recall one angle was who had authority to change procedures.  The State leg, not some elections official, Sec of State, etc.  Rules. . .

While I occasionally get energized by the "evidence" I see friends sharing, I don't think there will be some tide shift.  I do hope that more evidence of misconduct comes up for many who thought they already got away with things. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 11, 2020, 12:33:20 PM
It is going to be a tough road ahead for the Trump team.
I seriously doubt that SCOTUS will have the cojones to invalidate suspect state results... all but Alito and Thomas are squishes (I'm guessing on Barrett). I hope I'm wrong and that the Trump lawsuits have sufficient evidence to cast serious enough doubts that invalidation would be the correct legal action.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 11, 2020, 12:39:35 PM
Well, this isn't anything even vaguely approaching "evidence", but I liked it's simple graphic nature...

(https://i.imgur.com/tUvYbOs.png)

Note that out of those six states, Trump's lead was smallest (1.4 percentage-wise) in the one state whose unofficial preliminary total has him winning. Go figure. Biden came from way further behind (up to 15.2%) in the middle of the night to win all the other states. Amazing. He got more votes and a higher percentage than Obama in many of those urban precincts. Who knew he was that popular?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Rocky on November 11, 2020, 12:50:58 PM
" I do a lot of hit and miss these days."
At least your consistent in life.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 :wave:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 11, 2020, 12:59:10 PM
I recall one angle was who had authority to change procedures.  The State leg, not some elections official, Sec of State, etc.  Rules. . .

While I occasionally get energized by the "evidence" I see friends sharing, I don't think there will be some tide shift.  I do hope that more evidence of misconduct comes up for many who thought they already got away with things.
Yeah, I’m not sure there is going to be enough for there to be a tide shift either. I have to give it to Trump. He is not going down without a fight. We’lol just have to see how it plays out.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 11, 2020, 01:00:54 PM
I seriously doubt that SCOTUS will have the cojones to invalidate suspect state results... all but Alito and Thomas are squishes (I'm guessing on Barrett). I hope I'm wrong and that the Trump lawsuits have sufficient evidence to cast serious enough doubts that invalidation would be the correct legal action.
I’m with you on this. I would not be surprised if SCOTUS refuses to hear some of the cases. It is their way of weaseling out.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 11, 2020, 01:01:38 PM
At least your consistent in life.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 :wave:
Half might be blanks  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 11, 2020, 01:02:36 PM
At least your consistent in life.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 :wave:
Please don’t tell my wife!  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 11, 2020, 02:31:07 PM
The Great Lakes Justice Center has filed lawsuits (mentioned above) re irregularities in the Michigan election.

Here is their website article re this lawsuit with links to the actual complaint [https://www.greatlakesjc.org/wp-content/uploads/Complaint-Costantino-FINAL-With-Exhibits.pdf (https://www.greatlakesjc.org/wp-content/uploads/Complaint-Costantino-FINAL-With-Exhibits.pdf)] and the motion for a temporary restraining order [https://www.greatlakesjc.org/wp-content/uploads/Motion-for-TRO-Brief-Order-Costantino.pdf (https://www.greatlakesjc.org/wp-content/uploads/Motion-for-TRO-Brief-Order-Costantino.pdf)] against the state certifying the vote totals.

https://www.greatlakesjc.org/cases/costantino_v_detroit/ (https://www.greatlakesjc.org/cases/costantino_v_detroit/)

The Great Lakes Justice Center had the privilege of representing Mrs. Costantino and Mr. McCall, Jr. in their lawsuit against Wayne County for election fraud.

Full Case Name: Cheryl A. Costantino and Edward P. McCall, Jr. v. City of Detroit
File No.:
Court: Wayne County Circuit Court
Great Lakes Justice Center Role: Representing Plaintiffs.
Date: November 8, 2020.

Summary

The Great Lakes Justice Center (GLJC) filed an action in Wayne County Circuit Court alleging massive fraud in the election vote-counting procedures. The suit states Wayne County election officials allowed illegal, unlawful, and fraudulent processing of votes cast in last Tuesday’s election. Numerous witnesses have filed sworn affidavits under oath attesting to the fraudulent activities they observed directly. These acts disenfranchised lawful voters and potentially changed the outcome of the election. The various acts of fraud are itemized in the Complaint. The Complaint alleges:

Violation of Plaintiffs’ Constitutional right to Election Accuracy and Integrity.
Violation of Plaintiffs’ Quo Warranto right to a fraud-free Election.
Violation of Plaintiffs’ Constitutional Equal Protection Rights.
Violation of Statutory Election Laws.

Plaintiffs’ Complaint alleges many illegal and fraudulent actions by Defendants. For example:

Ballots were counted even though the voter’s name did not appear in the official voter rolls.
Election workers were ordered to not verify voters’ signatures on absentee ballots, to backdate absentee ballots, and to process such ballots regardless of their validity.
Election workers processed ballots that appeared after the election deadline and falsely reported that those ballots had been received prior to November 3, 2020 deadline.
Defendants used false information to process ballots, such as using incorrect or false birthdays. Many times, the election workers inserted new names into the QVF and recorded these new voters as having a birthdate of 1/1/1900.
Defendants coached voters to vote for Joe Biden and the Democrat party. Election workers would go to the voting booths with voters to watch them vote and coach them for whom to vote.
Unsecured ballots arrived at the TCF Center loading garage, not in sealed ballot boxes, without any chain of custody, and without envelopes.
Defendants refused to record challenges to their processes and removed challengers from the site if they politely voiced a challenge.

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 11, 2020, 06:02:38 PM
https://youtu.be/FIQb7nf3L6c
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 11, 2020, 06:03:07 PM
One man's view of the goals of the lawsuits being brought and the possible outcomes. 13 minutes, includes two one minute promotions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8csentEYaGg&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 11, 2020, 07:23:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88jWxiC9orM&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 11, 2020, 07:31:24 PM
Yeah, I’m not sure there is going to be enough for there to be a tide shift either. I have to give it to Trump. He is not going down without a fight. We’lol just have to see how it plays out.
Interesting what he's doing with staff changes in the last week. 

Esper is one that I'm not surprised with though. . .
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 12, 2020, 02:26:39 AM
One man's view of the goals of the lawsuits being brought and the possible outcomes. 13 minutes, includes two one minute promotions.

[SNIP]
Awesome video!  :thumbsup: This guy is up on his knowledge of how our elections work. There may be hope for us after all.

Thanks! :shaka:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 12, 2020, 02:30:41 AM
Interesting what he's doing with staff changes in the last week. 

Esper is one that I'm not surprised with though. . .
I have not kept up with what is going on with staff changes other than Esper which was expected. I’ll have to do a little research. I have the time. The problem is I am having a really tough time trying to decide what to shoot today. I’m so confused...  :P
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 12, 2020, 04:05:42 AM
Interesting what he's doing with staff changes in the last week. 

Esper is one that I'm not surprised with though. . .
After a little study, I’m not sure I see anything out of the ordinary as far as staff changes are concerned for the Trump administration. Here is why:

I see Trump as a no non nonsense narcissist. I think he gives you a chance to do what he wants. HIS WAY OR THE HIGHWAY. Take it or leave it. He micromanages most things that I see. Not necessarily the best leadership style as it doesn’t allow for people to do their jobs and grow into their position. I think he doesn’t micromanage people he trusts. And he doesn’t trust many people. This is exactly why he has surrounded himself with his family. They are allowed to do their jobs the way they see fit but they also protect him from those who cannot be trusted. Once you earn the family’s trust you are given free rein. But if you get their distrust you are given the choice of resign or being fired. And micro managers don’t keep people for very long or they don’t last long themselves. I believe this is why we see so much turnover in his administration. And I don’t see anything nefarious or out of the usual for Trump.

This is really all conjecture on my part. Just uneducated opinion. What do you see that is so interesting? I am very curious.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 12, 2020, 06:49:19 AM
I'm not contending that this is "evidence", but that it is a "data point" that could indicate something to be further investigated that will yield concrete evidence of how such an anomalie could exist other than by "coincidence".

[Steve Bannon: "There are no conspiracies, but there are no coincidences either."]

[The "People's Pundit", polling data analyst Richard Baris, has now been censored by all the major social media (he's on Parler now).]

(https://i.imgur.com/tGvCIUu.png)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 12, 2020, 07:10:44 AM
Here is the MIT PhD from the video above (reply #152) offering each campaign the opportunity to check his math.

(https://i.imgur.com/irqBQQp.png)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 12, 2020, 07:25:25 AM
"Potential problems" with the Dominion voting systems. There are many analyses of data showing "anomalies" in tabulation and totals. Those will be presented in court. Here are some general issues.

1. Votes can theoretically be ignored for individuals if a straight ticket vote is selected. This setting could very welI enable “Republican”-style typo fraud. Many complex rules decide how the “straight ticket” option works.
2. Network Security is very weak since all software access keys use the same cryptographic pair. This gives plausible deniability to whoever potentially decides to mess around with voting settings. It cant be proven who changed a setting since everybody has the same key
3. Digital certificates are not protected by password, and Dominion user manual explicitly says not to enter a password. This enables potential for bad actors to MITM attack data traveling over network between precinct tabulator and central tabulator.
4. Cryptic “split rotation” function that features the ability to “force a maximum deviation”. There is no definition of a “split rotation”, so we cannot know what “force a maximum deviation” means in this instance.
5. Local IT guys have ultimate power to clandestinely change settings, thus having the ability to potentially alter an entire election. There are no checks and balances or observers of the local IT guy when he accesses machine debug and admin settings. Its unclear if logs exist.
6. Dominion is a black box with votes ultimately tabulated in a central server system. Who has access to the central server and where is the manual and security reviews of that server software?
7. Settings could theoretically have been changed during evening downtime on first night of voting. Much easier to change settings on hundreds of machines than to forge thousands of ballots. A couple of people could have done it quickly.
8. State of Pennsylvania requested semantic changes to the Dominion voting software, possibly to aid in their lawfare efforts. The word “Cast” became “Print”, obfuscating the moment when your vote becomes officially cast. For what reason is currently unknown.
9. There is an option to force the vote scanner to “overrun” a preset amount of ballots EVERY time anybody pauses the scan mid-batch. “Overrun” is undefined. Potential for abuse is high with this function, which was added shortly after 2018 mid-term elections.

Full story:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/huge-one-many-heroes-uncovers-damning-evidence-regarding-potential-fraud-within-dominion-voting-machines/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/huge-one-many-heroes-uncovers-damning-evidence-regarding-potential-fraud-within-dominion-voting-machines/)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 12, 2020, 07:31:25 AM
Read the lawsuit filed by the Trump campaign against Michigan and Wayne County. Any credible evidence therein?

https://www.scribd.com/document/483888883/Michigan-lawsuit#download&from_embed (https://www.scribd.com/document/483888883/Michigan-lawsuit#download&from_embed)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 08:19:25 AM
After a little study, I’m not sure I see anything out of the ordinary as far as staff changes are concerned for the Trump administration. Here is why:

I see Trump as a no non nonsense narcissist. I think he gives you a chance to do what he wants. HIS WAY OR THE HIGHWAY. Take it or leave it. He micromanages most things that I see. Not necessarily the best leadership style as it doesn’t allow for people to do their jobs and grow into their position. I think he doesn’t micromanage people he trusts. And he doesn’t trust many people. This is exactly why he has surrounded himself with his family. They are allowed to do their jobs the way they see fit but they also protect him from those who cannot be trusted. Once you earn the family’s trust you are given free rein. But if you get their distrust you are given the choice of resign or being fired. And micro managers don’t keep people for very long or they don’t last long themselves. I believe this is why we see so much turnover in his administration. And I don’t see anything nefarious or out of the usual for Trump.

This is really all conjecture on my part. Just uneducated opinion. What do you see that is so interesting? I am very curious.  Thanks!
I'd have to look at the list again, but Esper was one that while I wasn't surprised that he was fired, my thoughts were why just after the election and two months left.  Yeah, a lot can happen in 2 months and that is one job that I believe doesn't hinge on one person (lots of backup, asst & under sec, etc).  However, the shake up of other positions left me scratching my head.  That said, those moves did start up a hornets nest with the Dem and media, so. . .
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 12, 2020, 08:21:02 AM
Guess there's fraud on both sides.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-supporter-voter-fraud-president-viral-video-1546876

Though this was last year, and she was caught.  Just showing that the system works.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 12, 2020, 09:19:56 AM
Dead (for three years) woman's signature match is valid according to the registrar of voters so her mail-in vote was counted, even though her husband did not receive her ballot at their address.

(https://i.imgur.com/9aq1U0e.png)

See the tweet from Richard Grenell with the embedded local news station story:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1326212952148627456 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1326212952148627456)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 09:25:38 AM
There's also level of "accuracy" set for the signature match.  I know my sig that I sent in on the card was awful and likely different from the ballot one.  But according to the website, my ballot was received and counted "properly". 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 12, 2020, 09:57:06 AM
Thought I’d throw a little levity into such a hot topic...

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 12, 2020, 10:12:35 AM
Guess there's fraud on both sides.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-supporter-voter-fraud-president-viral-video-1546876

Though this was last year, and she was caught.  Just showing that the system works.

Nobody on here EVER said there's no fraud on the Republican side.  In fact, we've posted proof of that before.  Do you even have a point?


The system only catches the few who get caught (should I explain how that's not up for debate?).  Or, is it your belief that everyone who breaks the law gets caught and punished by "the system"?  How many cold case files are in Hawaii alone?

Your logic is as illogical as usual.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 12, 2020, 10:28:06 AM
I want to ask Omnigun why Americans are allowed to have guns.

Or has that been answered before?

Seems like he/she would be the last person to buy a gun or allow others to do so.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 12, 2020, 10:31:08 AM
I want to ask Omnigun why Americans are allowed to have guns.

Or has that been answered before?

Seems like he/she would be the last person to buy a gun or allow others to do so.

2nd amendment?   Freedom?  Why the hell would I be against guns?   How did you even draw that conclusion.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 12, 2020, 11:20:05 AM
2nd amendment?   Freedom?  Why the hell would I be against guns?   How did you even draw that conclusion.

With your understanding of HD and other topics of guns and call for inclusion of people with similar thoughts like you it is concerning for the rest of us gun owners.
Yelling "Marco" and waiting for a "Polo" is going to get someone hurt, and guess what the headlines would read?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 12, 2020, 11:32:56 AM


Seems like he/she would be the last person to buy a gun or allow others to do so.

Owns lots, didn't shoot most of them.  Got ammo stock piled, yet no go range.  Probably has body armor too, that still has the tag on it.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 12, 2020, 11:34:56 AM
Owns lots, didn't shoot most of them.  Got ammo stock piled, yet no go range.  Probably has body armor too, that still has the tag on it.


He posted he not only has body armor, but also 2 biohazard suits.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 12, 2020, 11:44:51 AM
With your understanding of HD and other topics of guns and call for inclusion of people with similar thoughts like you it is concerning for the rest of us gun owners.
Yelling "Marco" and waiting for a "Polo" is going to get someone hurt, and guess what the headlines would read?

Yeah, clearly yelling "whos there" is a horrible thing to do when you don't know whos there.... :crazy: :crazy:

Owns lots, didn't shoot most of them.  Got ammo stock piled, yet no go range.  Probably has body armor too, that still has the tag on it.

I've shot all the stuff I have.  I just went to the range this past weekend.   But its true I don't go that often.  Actually don't have much ammo anymore.  Not enough to go range often.   My body armor is tagless  :rofl:

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 12, 2020, 11:56:02 AM
Yeah, clearly yelling "whos there" is a horrible thing to do when you don't know whos there.... :crazy: :crazy:

I've shot all the stuff I have.  I just went to the range this past weekend.   But its true I don't go that often.  Actually don't have much ammo anymore.  Not enough to go range often.   My body armor is tagless  :rofl:

I echo what others have stated.
You clearly don't know what you don't know and you continue with your naivete.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on November 12, 2020, 12:03:29 PM

He posted he not only has body armor, but also 2 biohazard suits.
What to you want to bet he/she wears the body armor wihile video gaming?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 12, 2020, 12:04:10 PM
VICTORY ‼️

Pennsylvania court rules in favor of the Trump Campaign, noting that the anti-Trump Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar exceeded her authority in trying to count ballots arriving AFTER Election Day.

Article 1, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution MATTERS!
https://api.parler.com/l/hQ4hg
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 12:12:06 PM
I echo what others have stated.
You clearly don't know what you don't know and you continue with your naivety.
Bazinga

He's probably of the "shoot them in the leg" mindset as well. . .
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 12:12:54 PM
VICTORY ‼️

Pennsylvania court rules in favor of the Trump Campaign, noting that the anti-Trump Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar exceeded her authority in trying to count ballots arriving AFTER Election Day.

Article 1, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution MATTERS!
https://api.parler.com/l/hQ4hg
That was one of the main things I was wondering about.  Will see what happens to those "questionable" votes. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 12, 2020, 12:25:06 PM
That was one of the main things I was wondering about.  Will see what happens to those "questionable" votes.

So, if they "destroyed" both the envelopes that came with late ballots AND the envelopes that didn't exist with the mysterious 4AM bundles for Biden, then they really can't filter out the ballots the court ruled are illegal.

In that case, the entire state's election is invalid and can't be honestly certified.

One down, two to go....
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 12, 2020, 12:44:16 PM
Bazinga

He's probably of the "shoot them in the leg" mindset as well. . .

No, if you are defending your life you shoot to end the threat.  Shooting in the leg is one of the stupidest mindsets.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 12, 2020, 01:16:02 PM
No, if you are defending your life you shoot to end the threat.  Shooting in the leg is one of the stupidest mindsets.

STOP IT. 

ARE YOU UNABLE TO REMEMBER THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR YOU TO THROW OFF OF THE TOPIC?

 :stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 02:00:56 PM
Compliance, conformity. Tomayto, tomahto

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201113/25f16e6b50910a3e71884cdd189f574a.jpg)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 12, 2020, 02:07:36 PM
So, if they "destroyed" both the envelopes that came with late ballots AND the envelopes that didn't exist with the mysterious 4AM bundles for Biden, then they really can't filter out the ballots the court ruled are illegal.

In that case, the entire state's election is invalid and can't be honestly certified.

One down, two to go....

I was thinking this.  How are they gonna separate what's there legally and not.  So all the recounts are basically checking for counting machine errors and not invalid ballots.  Even in other states like WC and MI who are doing recounts.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 12, 2020, 02:07:51 PM
Compliance, conformity. Tomayto, tomahto

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201113/25f16e6b50910a3e71884cdd189f574a.jpg)

This it the nail on the head.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 12, 2020, 02:14:49 PM
I was thinking this.  How are they gonna separate what's there legally and not.  So all the recounts are basically checking for counting machine errors and not invalid ballots.  Even in other states like WC and MI who are doing recounts.

WC?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 02:45:46 PM
WC?
I was going to point that out.  But you have to remember who is the poster. . .  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 12, 2020, 03:25:36 PM
I was thinking this.  How are they gonna separate what's there legally and not.  So all the recounts are basically checking for counting machine errors and not invalid ballots.  Even in other states like WC and MI who are doing recounts.

Justice Alito issued a stay for PA to segregate the ballots that came in after the election deadline and before the 3 day extended deadline, because even though they were already told to do this, the counting managers were reportedly ignoring that order.

If they didn't do as instructed FROM THE BEGINNING, then they messed up the process to a point that nobody can fix it short of a re-canvasing -- i.e. a do-over election.  There's not enough time to do that.  Sounds like PA won't be certifying their election.

If the election results are tossed, the legislature of PA has the right to simply decide who gets the electoral votes.  Since both the House and Senate of the General Assembly are a majority of Republicans, it might be reasonable to presume they'll pick Trump.

What a dramatic election!   :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 12, 2020, 03:30:20 PM
So, if they "destroyed" both the envelopes that came with late ballots AND the envelopes that didn't exist with the mysterious 4AM bundles for Biden, then they really can't filter out the ballots the court ruled are illegal.

In that case, the entire state's election is invalid and can't be honestly certified.

One down, two to go....
If even one state cannot certify their results the job of deciding who is president goes to the House of Representatives. If that happens Trump will win.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 03:37:20 PM
If even one state cannot certify their results the job of deciding who is president goes to the House of Representatives. If that happens Trump will win.
House of Reps = Trump advantage? 

Kindly, how so?   ???

I wouldn't think the US House would be Trump friendly. . . 

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 12, 2020, 03:37:58 PM
WC?
WI, no focus

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 12, 2020, 03:43:42 PM
House of Reps = Trump advantage? 

Kindly, how so?   ???

I wouldn't think the US House would be Trump friendly. . .

focus
we've discussed this before
they vote by state
while the democrats have the majority, they do not have the majority of states...
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 03:46:18 PM
focus
we've discussed this before
they vote by state
while the democrats have the majority, they do not have the majority of states...
I vaguely remember dat.  I will check unko. . .  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 12, 2020, 03:47:01 PM
If even one state cannot certify their results the job of deciding who is president goes to the House of Representatives. If that happens Trump will win.

I was thinking that as well, but there's another remedy.

The state legislatures have the responsibility for selecting the electors for their state.  We haven't always used popular vote elections to do that.  Most states in the early years simply voted within the legislature and cast their electorals based on that.  Therefore, if a state can't certify by the deadline, the Supreme Court could tell the state to hold a vote among legislators and substitute that result for the popular vote.  Then they CAN certify, and the electoral college process will continue.

The kicker is the balance of power in PA, GA, MI, WI and AZ.  The Legislatures in all of the swing states listed are a Republican majority.  So, if the Supreme Court cancels the results of any of their elections, they can toss the election to the legislature and make them vote for the state's electoral slate.

That at least prevents the election from destroying the outcomes from states that didn't try to cheat.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 12, 2020, 04:01:39 PM
House of Reps = Trump advantage? 

Kindly, how so?   ???

I wouldn't think the US House would be Trump friendly. . .
If the decision goes to the House of Representatives the vote is counted as one vote per state. There are 31 Republican represented States and 19 Democrat represented States in the House. Trump wins by a large margin.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 12, 2020, 04:07:42 PM
House of Reps = Trump advantage? 

Kindly, how so?   ???

I wouldn't think the US House would be Trump friendly. . .
The Republicans gained a lot of seats in the house this election. I think the number is 16? Anyway, between the number of Democrats that voted against Pelosi as Speaker in the last election and the seats gained this election and those Dems that voted against Pelosi the last time there is a good chance she may not be voted Speaker this session.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 04:08:08 PM
If the decision goes to the House of Representatives the vote is counted as one vote per state. There are 31 Republican represented States and 19 Democrat represented States in the House. Trump wins by a large margin.
Assuming states votes "as aligned". 

Then cue riots. . .

Strap up, it's gonna be a helluva ride! 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 04:09:23 PM
The Republicans gained a lot of seats in the house this election. I think the number is 16? Anyway, between the number of Democrats that voted against Pelosi as Speaker in the last election and the seats gained this election and those Dems that voted against Pelosi the last time there is a good chance she may not be voted Speaker this session.  :rofl:
I recall I read somewhere that that's almost a certainty. . .

IF that happens, I'm gonna post and play the "ding dong the witch is dead" part from Wizard of Oz! 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 12, 2020, 04:15:26 PM
Assuming states votes "as aligned". 

Then cue riots. . .

Strap up, it's gonna be a helluva ride!

if only i had firearms or ammo...
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 04:19:00 PM
if only i had firearms or ammo...
I didn't mean it that way, but that works too. . .

You should ask if your "friend" has any. . .
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 12, 2020, 04:24:54 PM
I didn't mean it that way, but that works too. . .

You should ask if your "friend" has any. . .

maybe i should get some "friends"...
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 04:34:47 PM
maybe i should get some "friends"...
quality > quantity

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 12, 2020, 04:43:37 PM
quality > quantity

i have neither...
 :( :'( >:(
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on November 12, 2020, 05:22:59 PM
quality > quantity
Yeah, well, the Germans that had the misfortune to be ordered to invade Russia might have a different opinion.     :shake:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 12, 2020, 05:25:00 PM
Yeah, well, the Germans that had the misfortune to be ordered to invade Russia might have a different opinion.     :shake:
Well, in that context, yeah  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 12, 2020, 05:38:49 PM
If the decision goes to the House of Representatives the vote is counted as one vote per state. There are 31 Republican represented States and 19 Democrat represented States in the House. Trump wins by a large margin.

This is that scenario where the smaller Red States in flyover country, the states the coastal elites always insult, get to have their turn.  This would be the reason Dems were foolish to write off these states as dumb farmers and rednecks.

“It’s a process. You dig a hole, you put a seed in, you put dirt on top, you add water, up comes the corn. You could learn that."  --Michael Bloomberg
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 12, 2020, 05:49:27 PM
If you remember in 2016, Jill Stein (Green Party Pres Candidate) requested a recount in Michigan.  It did reveal an error, just not the error she was counting on.

So, if you think voting machines improve as the bugs get worked out, think again -- unless you see the "bug" as being the fact that the machines didn't create ENOUGH fake ballots for Hillary, and the increased number for Biden shows "improvement!"   :wtf:

Quote
WASHINGTON — Green Party nominee Jill Stein’s presidential vote recount in Michigan
may have turned up massive voter irregularities — in the Democratic stronghold of Detroit.

Now it’s Republican leaders who are demanding an investigation to determine why a third
of the city’s voting machines registered more ballots than actual voters, the Detroit News
reported.

Ruth Johnson, the Republican secretary of state, is launching an audit.

Republican state Sen. Patrick Colbeck called the probe a good start on the suspicious
results turned up in Detroit, which Hillary Clinton won with 95 percent of the vote.

The Detroit News found voting scanning machines at 248 of the city’s 662 precincts —
37 percent — tabulated more ballots than the number of actual voters counted in the poll
books.

https://nypost.com/2016/12/14/michigan-recount-reveals-error-but-not-the-one-jill-stein-wanted/
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: QUIETShooter on November 12, 2020, 06:01:06 PM
Wow!  This is certainly getting interesting!  And you guys sure are smart.  And besides smart and well versed you guys are also funny!  :rofl:

Seriously, I'm learning a lot and laughing along the way.  Best way to learn things....! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on November 12, 2020, 07:07:03 PM
If you remember in 2016, Jill Stein (Green Party Pres Candidate) requested a recount in Michigan.
Because I did not GAS about either Stein or PIAPS, was not following the audit.

No shock, the DNC prima donna of the hour had the fix in.  Of course, nothing happened to correct the clear fraud.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on November 12, 2020, 07:08:59 PM
Then cue riots. . .

Strap up, it's gonna be a helluva ride!
Unfortunately for us patriots here, not much we can do to help the mainland bro's.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 12, 2020, 07:10:28 PM
Because I did not GAS about either one, was not following the audit.

No shock, the DNC prima donna of the hour had the fix in.  Of course, nothing happened to correct the clear fraud.

Yep.  And there is history in Chicago, Detroit, Philly and many other major Dem cities in swing states of election "irregularities."  Some of the people responsible for the irregularities are still serving time, because "Democracy must be preserved," or something like that.   :crazy:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 12, 2020, 08:00:14 PM
https://youtu.be/6LscOV7EBvE
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 12, 2020, 10:46:27 PM
Ill bet the envelopes will be "lost" so there is no way to verify sigs or when the ballots arrived. So a recount would be almost useless.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 12:56:19 AM
Ill bet the envelopes will be "lost" so there is no way to verify sigs or when the ballots arrived. So a recount would be almost useless.

That's my guess.  With backdated ballots, destroyed envelopes with fake/no signature, no accounting as to where they came from, polling data that includes fake, duplicate and illegal voter names, and who knows how many were simply substituted for Trump ballots, there's no real purpose in recounting an entire state that includes a bunch of invalid ballots. 

I also wonder how they would separate the 100% bogus ballots and counting machine numbers that were inflated by running Biden ballots through multiple times.  It becomes an audit procedure of massive proportions that would take months to track down every ballot and voter.  Even then, there would still be questions.

Only a revote under more controlled conditions could be trusted.  No way to accomplish that now.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 13, 2020, 07:46:40 AM
No worry beef curry. Bloomberg says election was secure.

https://apple.news/AKPb4hp3gSsaSiEY7mM5qjQ
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 13, 2020, 08:31:14 AM
because mail is so secure...
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/11/13/thieves-steal-big-blue-mail-collection-box-moiliili-post-office/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/11/13/thieves-steal-big-blue-mail-collection-box-moiliili-post-office/)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: groveler on November 13, 2020, 09:34:59 AM
Unfortunately for us patriots here, not much we can do to help the mainland bro's.
My mainland relatives are pretty well armed and "regulated".
I worry more about my ass here with all the Democrats
running the asylum. 8)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 13, 2020, 09:39:38 AM
My mainland relatives are pretty well armed and "regulated".
I worry more about my ass here with all the Democrats
running the asylum. 8)
I keep saying if I still lived in WA, I'd be shooting XXX, or doing YYY.  Sadly, I dunno.  While gun ownership used to be pretty good prior to my moving back home, a LOT of my college friends are SUPER DUPER liberal.  Like fanatic.  I have my opinions on why some of them are the way they are, but I'll save that for discussions with folks over beers.  That said, I would likely have had a much higher paying job for the lat 16 years or so. 

I think Inspector will be able to hold his own.  He might take forever to load up the flintlock, but once he does, watch out. . .  ;D

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 13, 2020, 09:52:12 AM
I keep saying if I still lived in WA, I'd be shooting XXX, or doing YYY.  Sadly, I dunno.  While gun ownership used to be pretty good prior to my moving back home, a LOT of my college friends are SUPER DUPER liberal.  Like fanatic.  I have my opinions on why some of them are the way they are, but I'll save that for discussions with folks over beers.  That said, I would likely have had a much higher paying job for the lat 16 years or so. 

I think Inspector will be able to hold his own.  He might take forever to load up the flintlock, but once he does, watch out. . .  ;D

 :rofl:

Then after the 1st volley, he can ask who's there.  This will buy him time to load the next ball.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: groveler on November 13, 2020, 09:59:45 AM
I keep saying if I still lived in WA, I'd be shooting XXX, or doing YYY.  Sadly, I dunno.  While gun ownership used to be pretty good prior to my moving back home, a LOT of my college friends are SUPER DUPER liberal.  Like fanatic.  I have my opinions on why some of them are the way they are, but I'll save that for discussions with folks over beers.  That said, I would likely have had a much higher paying job for the lat 16 years or so. 

I think Inspector will be able to hold his own.  He might take forever to load up the flintlock, but once he does, watch out. . .  ;D

 :rofl:
I'm going to try making my own black powder this weekend.  I have a call into
my brother to send me my old Hawkins 54.
Whoo Hoo!
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 13, 2020, 10:06:19 AM
Then after the 1st volley, he can ask who's there.  This will buy him time to load the next ball.
In what language?

"donde esta el banjo?"

I'm going to try making my own black powder this weekend.  I have a call into
my brother to send me my old Hawkins 54.
Whoo Hoo!
:o

Hope you have the same number of fingers and toes come Monday  ;D

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 13, 2020, 11:21:28 AM
This could literally go on for months.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 11:55:03 AM
This could literally go on for months.

The 2000 election dragged on for over a month.  There were so many things that were obviously attempted in order to swing the election to Gore. 

On election night, nearly every news agency declared Gore the winner of Florida before the polls closed in the panhandle -- a mostly Republican area.  This specifically led to the rule within the media to not call any races or states in any timezone if there are still people voting in those races/states.  With FL existing across 2 timezones, they aren't supposed to call any results until the later timezone's polls in the panhandle close.  Calling a state while people are still trying to vote can affect whether the "losing" candidate's voters will bother to go vote or not.

The original FL results were based on exit polls, not the actual ballot reporting.  Over the course of a day, the state was called for Gore, then flipped back to undecided, then to Bush, then to undecided again.

When the state was called for Bush, Gore actually called and privately conceded to him.  But as the count started to narrow to within 2000 votes, Gore withdrew his concession.

With only two hours remaining until the December 12 deadline to certify FL's results, the Supreme Court order that the Florida Supreme Court's ruling requiring a statewide recount of ballots was unconstitutional on equal protection grounds, effectively ended the recount, and the previously certified total held.  Even if the state had busted that deadline, the electors would have been chosen by the state legislature for Bush.  Gore had no real shot other than the games they played all month with hanging chads and butterfly ballots and only recounting strong Democrat-leaning counties.

The 2000 election was held Nov 7.  The final FL result was certified Dec 12.  More than a month.  We have a ways to go to see what might happen.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 11:59:15 AM
No worry beef curry. Bloomberg says election was secure.

https://apple.news/AKPb4hp3gSsaSiEY7mM5qjQ

Pure propaganda, just like the MSM labeling Trump's legal challenges "a coup attempt."  Coup? What did the Dems do for 4 years?

They are setting the narrative up that, even if Trump manages to win, the win will be illegitimate, just like his first term. 

Can we round up and exile the so-call journalists who perpetuate all this divisive BS?  We haven't even seen how far the Trump legal challenges will go, and already they are calling it a coup.

Was it a coup when Gore conceded then withdrew it before filing legal challenges to the results in Florida?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 13, 2020, 12:17:19 PM
Pure propaganda, just like the MSM labeling Trump's legal challenges "a coup attempt."  Coup? What did the Dems do for 4 years?

They are setting the narrative up that, even if Trump manages to win, the win will be illegitimate, just like his first term. 

Can we round up and exile the so-call journalists who perpetuate all this divisive BS?  We haven't even seen how far the Trump legal challenges will go, and already they are calling it a coup.

Was it a coup when Gore conceded then withdrew it before filing legal challenges to the results in Florida?
What?! You mean I can’t trust Bloomberg as a credible source? Propaganda you say?

[sarcasm]

Just in case there was doubt...
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 13, 2020, 12:46:42 PM
I keep saying if I still lived in WA, I'd be shooting XXX, or doing YYY.  Sadly, I dunno.  While gun ownership used to be pretty good prior to my moving back home, a LOT of my college friends are SUPER DUPER liberal.  Like fanatic.  I have my opinions on why some of them are the way they are, but I'll save that for discussions with folks over beers.  That said, I would likely have had a much higher paying job for the lat 16 years or so. 

I think Inspector will be able to hold his own.  He might take forever to load up the flintlock, but once he does, watch out. . .  ;D

 :rofl:
I live Arizona. I can own NFA fully automatic flintlocks.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 13, 2020, 12:50:01 PM
US election 2020: Five viral vote claims fact-checked
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54811410
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 13, 2020, 12:52:20 PM
Then after the 1st volley, he can ask who's there.  This will buy him time to load the next ball.
I don’t ask who der. I keep shoot my fully automatic flintlock til the MFer dead.  :rofl:

I forgot to mention my full auto flintlock get one suppressor!  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 12:59:55 PM
US election 2020: Five viral vote claims fact-checked
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54811410

Do you not get that even the incidents brushed aside as human error ALL -- 100% -- EVERY SINGLE TIME go in favor of BIDEN and against TRUMP?

Statistical theory tells us that random errors would be evenly distributed between the two candidates over time.  So far, it's in the range of 1:100 in favor of Biden over Trump, and that one is not even close the the magnitude of most other "errors".

It's a simple fact that bears looking into, not simply shrugging it off as "not fraud".
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 13, 2020, 01:02:37 PM
I live Arizona. I can own NFA fully automatic flintlocks.  :rofl:
Good luck wit dat!  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 13, 2020, 01:10:27 PM
Do you not get that even the incidents brushed aside as human error ALL -- 100% -- EVERY SINGLE TIME go in favor of BIDEN and against TRUMP?

Statistical theory tells us that random errors would be evenly distributed between the two candidates over time.  So far, it's in the range of 1:100 in favor of Biden over Trump, and that one is not even close the the magnitude of most other "errors".

It's a simple fact that bears looking into, not simply shrugging it off as "not fraud".

Then they are fixed?   What's your problem?  If they were not fixed I see an issue.   Just debunking alot of fake news Trump tweeting. 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-cyber-idUSKBN27T038
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 01:34:42 PM
Then they are fixed?   What's your problem?  If they were not fixed I see an issue.   Just debunking alot of fake news Trump tweeting. 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-cyber-idUSKBN27T038

I thought you were in IT.  Are you lying about that, too?

Evidence of errors means the system is FLAWED.  Fixing the errors one-by-one as they are noticed is what TESTING is for, not for nationwide deployment in real world applications.

We would never have released the AWACS operational software before it went through software change audits, simulator testing (software change tests, functional area tests and system tests), in-flight tests, and finally in-flight operational tests with a full mission crew on daily operational test flights for a month before being comfortable with global release.

Why do you think Texas rejected the Dominion election software not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES?  These "errors" are ALWAYS in one direction.  We only know about the ones that WERE CAUGHT.  There's no way to know how many more errors have not been caught.  That creates a low degree of confidence in the system's ability to ensure election integrity.

If you have to do a full recount of every state because the software can't be trusted, then I submit the entire election can't be trusted.

A week ago there were no issues with the software -- until someone spotted an anomaly.  Suddenly, that anomaly appears over and over -- and ALWAYS FOR BIDEN.

If I were the Republicans, I'd hire a forensic engineer to map out the behavior of that software/hardware system, analyze the anomalies, and report on the level of confidence they have that there are no more anomalies waiting to be found.

I keep forgetting how young you are.  You obviously have no real hands-on experience in software configuration management, quality assurance, functional and system testing methodologies, system design, system analysis, software development, software and hardware troubleshooting, certification processes, and error analysis.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 13, 2020, 01:36:26 PM
I thought you were in IT.  Are you lying about that, too?


I keep forgetting how young you are.  You obviously have no real hands-on experience in software configuration management, quality assurance, functional and system testing methodologies, system design, system analysis, software development, software and hardware troubleshooting, certification processes, and error analysis.

State of Hawaii IT I assume. Different standards as we see.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 01:38:12 PM
State of Hawaii IT I assume. Different standards as we see.

Explains why he won't show his face at gun rights hearings.  He's part of that "culture", whether he agrees with them on here or not.  He can't risk being outed at work.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 01:54:11 PM
Every single system I helped design, code, test, manage, upgrade, fix or document had this in common:  if there's a potential for human error, we created automated checks to either prevent them or flag them for review and remediation.  It's just common, professional development standards (what we call "best practices") to make sure the system can't calculate and report as factual, say, vote totals that exceed the number of registered voters in a county, etc.

If these states using the same voting systems are seeing similar "errors", whether software, hardware or human created, then the system was not designed or programmed as I think it should have been -- and as the evaluators in Texas felt.  They said they could not be confident that the system would help the state adhere to the mandated rules of the election, and that the integrity of the results could not be trusted.

One thing is for sure.  Nobody on the Democrat side is going to ask for an investigation into the voting systems, because the "glitches" are all in their favor.  It's up to the FEDS to force the states to use a certified system that everybody can trust.  I'm not usually a big fan of federally-mandated standards, but since this is about federal elections, in addition to local and state elections, the government at all levels would see cost savings by having a single source vendor demonstrate the capabilities of a well designed system every state can have confidence in. 

But, as long as the problems that we catch are being fixed one-by-one, why worry?  Imagine if this was the software your banks used, and you never noticed the balance was a dollar short each time an amount was deducted or added.  So what if the error is ALWAYS in favor of the BANK?  As long as you are watching every single transaction and immediately reporting the discrepancies, you should be okay with the bank giving that money back month .... after month .... after month .... Well, at least for the transactions you noticed were wrong.  The rest don't matter. 

What you don't know won't hurt you -- and helps the bank!
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 13, 2020, 02:17:07 PM
I thought you were in IT.  Are you lying about that, too?

Evidence of errors means the system is FLAWED.  Fixing the errors one-by-one as they are noticed is what TESTING is for, not for nationwide deployment in real world applications.

We would never have released the AWACS operational software before it went through software change audits, simulator testing (software change tests, functional area tests and system tests), in-flight tests, and finally in-flight operational tests with a full mission crew on daily operational test flights for a month before being comfortable with global release.

Why do you think Texas rejected the Dominion election software not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES?  These "errors" are ALWAYS in one direction.  We only know about the ones that WERE CAUGHT.  There's no way to know how many more errors have not been caught.  That creates a low degree of confidence in the system's ability to ensure election integrity.

If you have to do a full recount of every state because the software can't be trusted, then I submit the entire election can't be trusted.

A week ago there were no issues with the software -- until someone spotted an anomaly.  Suddenly, that anomaly appears over and over -- and ALWAYS FOR BIDEN.

If I were the Republicans, I'd hire a forensic engineer to map out the behavior of that software/hardware system, analyze the anomalies, and report on the level of confidence they have that there are no more anomalies waiting to be found.

I keep forgetting how young you are.  You obviously have no real hands-on experience in software configuration management, quality assurance, functional and system testing methodologies, system design, system analysis, software development, software and hardware troubleshooting, certification processes, and error analysis.

From what I gather its human error.  This isn't an automated process.   Also,  many systems have flaws you should know that you work in IT also.  Many of them because of budget,  a perfect world you would have all errors corrected but when you cut costs you have to cut something somewhere.  Lowest bidder wins after all.  Government isn't always the best, I've worked for private and government.  I am all for fixing the system and improve the processes but to call it call corruption without evidence is fake news. 

Explains why he won't show his face at gun rights hearings.  He's part of that "culture", whether he agrees with them on here or not.  He can't risk being outed at work.

Nothing to do with work.  Rich accusation from someone who comes from government IT also.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 13, 2020, 02:21:19 PM
From what I gather its human error.  This isn't an automated process.   Also,  many systems have flaws you should know that you work in IT also.  It all comes down for budget,  a perfect world you would have all errors corrected but when you cut costs you have to cut something somewhere.  Lowest bidder wins after all.  Government isn't always the best, I've worked for private and government.  I am all for fixing the system and improve the processes but to call it call corruption without evidence is fake news. 

Nothing to do with work.
Why are you so quick to defend that corruption is NOT happening?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 13, 2020, 02:28:39 PM
Why are you so quick to defend that corruption is NOT happening?

Because I personally hate all this fake news.  All these accusations with no viable proof, no court wins, nothing all but conspiracies. Parading as fact.  There's no logic, just personal feelings on both sides.  Trump is spreading lies, half the things he said have been proven false already.  So many of the postings in this thread have been proven wrong.  This is all a clusterfuck and I refuse to stand by and watch democracy fall.  We believe in the system till proven otherwise.  Innocent till proven guilty.  Fuck all these stupid ass conspiracy theories.  QAnon etc are stupid as hell as well.  We go further away from science and American values day by day.

If there is true corruption then, good we catch it and fix it.  But don't count the hens before they hatch.  Prove everything beyond a reasonable doubt.  Don't just make shit up.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 02:30:19 PM
From what I gather its human error.  This isnt an automated process.   Also,  many systems have flaws you should know that you work in IT also.  I am all for fixing the system and improve the processes but to call it call corruption without evidence is fake news.

Answer this:

1.  You log into your bank online.
2.  You make a withdrawal, transfer or payment that exceeds your account balance.
3.  The next time you log in, you're not only being hit with late fees, overdraft fees, and/or notices that a payment or transfer could not be completed, but you have more transactions that didn't clear because the account was overdrawn.

That's when you realize you entered $10000 when you meant to enter $1000.

Was that just user error?  Are you now going to just eat all the overdraft and late payment fees and chalk it up to "education", or are you going to complain that it's the bank's fault, because their software was flawed in that it allowed you to make a transaction 10 times larger than you had in that account?

The obvious answer is:  the software (automated process) should be designed to prevent obvious data entry errors. 

Why are you unable to grasp that simple, concept?  A Social Security number has 9 digits.  A Hawaii drivers license begins with HI.  A US phone number dialed in-country has an area code, a prefix and an exchange -- that's 10 digits, no more, no less. a zip code has 5 digits minimum, 9 if it has the Zip+4 extension.  Names are all alphabetic characters -- no digits or special characters.  Withdrawals from financial accounts are not permitted to exceed available balances.

All of these things can royally F-up a database or transaction.  So the software AUTOMATES the data entry process to prevent predictable human errors.

If you can't understand this, then you need to find another profession before you give the rest of us a black eye.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 13, 2020, 02:37:47 PM
Answer this:

1.  You log into your bank online.
2.  You make a withdrawal, transfer or payment that exceeds your account balance.
3.  The next time you log in, you're not only being hit with late fees, overdraft fees, and/or notices that a payment or transfer could not be completed, but you have more transactions that didn't clear because the account was overdrawn.

That's when you realize you entered $10000 when you meant to enter $1000.

Was that just user error?  Are you now going to just eat all the overdraft and late payment fees and chalk it up to "education", or are you going to complain that it's the bank's fault, because their software was flawed in that it allowed you to make a transaction 10 times larger than you had in that account?

The obvious answer is:  the software (automated process) should be designed to prevent obvious data entry errors. 

Why are you unable to grasp that simple, concept?  A Social Security number has 9 digits.  A Hawaii drivers license begins with HI.  A US phone number dialed in-country has an area code, a prefix and an exchange -- that's 10 digits, no more, no less. a zip code has 5 digits minimum, 9 if it has the Zip+4 extension.  Names are all alphabetic characters -- no digits or special characters.  Withdrawals from financial accounts are not permitted to exceed available balances.

All of these things can royally F-up a database or transaction.  So the software AUTOMATES the data entry process to prevent predictable human errors.

If you can't understand this, then you need to find another profession before you give the rest of us a black eye.

I've personally used bank software, that had plenty of errors.   I've heard of people having the exact same issue as you said, they made error, over drew and bank didn't stop them.  So does that mean banks are corrupt too?   All the things you are saying I agree with, they should have all of that.  But many of the times both private and public,  they just don't.   Things get fixed or improved, but to scream corruption with no proof is bad precedent.   The more complex your software, the more things can break, the more it costs.  And many times people don't do it.  Cost cutting is a major reason. 

Also you seem to thing I am in software design.  I am not.   I don't program.  When I was in private I have witnessed companies cutting things to save on project costs.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 02:38:11 PM
From what I gather its human error.  This isn't an automated process.   Also,  many systems have flaws you should know that you work in IT also.  Many of them because of budget,  a perfect world you would have all errors corrected but when you cut costs you have to cut something somewhere.  Lowest bidder wins after all.  Government isn't always the best, I've worked for private and government.  I am all for fixing the system and improve the processes but to call it call corruption without evidence is fake news. 
Are you that ignorant, or just being obtuse?  No software is perfect, but there are minimum standards they have to meet.  If you can't see how "human error" is supposed to be preventable, and that even the most rudimentary software testing would have caught the things being reported, then you have no IT training beyond "Duh Cloud".

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Nothing to do with work.  Rich accusation from someone who comes from government IT also.

I took many of my coworkers to the range for their first time shooting, including coworkers on the mainland here to visit.  I helped several buy their first guns.  Most popular:  Mosin-Nagant 91/30 and M44, S&W 686 .357 Magnum, AR-15 and Sig MK25 P226.

Where I work doesn't keep me in the closet about my hobbies and opinions.  And my company happens have been a California-based corporation until 6 years ago when they moved the corporate HQ to Virginia -- closer to the DoD customers that comprised the bulk of our work.

Obviously you lack the backbone to stand up for principles.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 02:43:52 PM
I've personally used bank software, that had plenty of errors.   I've heard of people having the exact same issue as you said, they made error, over drew and bank didn't stop them.  So does that mean banks are corrupt too?   All the things you are saying I agree with, they should have all of that.  But many of the times both private and public,  they just don't.   Things get fixed or improved, but to scream corruption with no proof is bad precedent.   The more complex your software, the more things can break, the more it costs.  And many times people don't do it.  Cost cutting is a major reason.

Wait, so did the banks explain it away as "customer error," and leave you with the fees and penalties to pay?  Did they ever fix the errors so that never happened again?  Or did they do what the States did, and never go back to fix anything even though Texas rejected the software and the 2000 election had almost the exact same problems with voting systems?

Cost?  How much does it cost to toss out a general election in a state?  How much does a recount, re-canvassing and audit cost when these errors happen?

I really think you should take some more IT courses.  Your rationalizations are not based in reality.

If I ran the testing outfit for that voting software, these things would have surfaced long before the election ever came close to starting.  Claiming it's a matter of cost is a copout.  I should know.  IT has been my life for longer than you've been alive -- including the 9 months you were alive before crying with your first real breath.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 13, 2020, 02:44:08 PM
Are you that ignorant, or just being obtuse?  No software is perfect, but there are minimum standards they have to meet.  If you can't see how "human error" is supposed to be preventable, and that even the most rudimentary software testing would have caught the things being reported, then you have no IT training beyond "Duh Cloud".

I took many of my coworkers to the range for their first time shooting, including coworkers on the mainland here to visit.  I helped several buy their first guns.  Most popular:  Mosin-Nagant 91/30 and M44, S&W 686 .357 Magnum, AR-15 and Sig MK25 P226.

Where I work doesn't keep me in the closet about my hobbies and opinions.  And my company happens have been a California-based corporation until 6 years ago when they moved the corporate HQ to Virginia -- closer to the DoD customers that comprised the bulk of our work.

Obviously you lack the backbone to stand up for principles.

Again with the assumptions when you know nothing about me,  I have also talked guns with coworkers,  they own firearms also.  Didn't I tell you it wasn't work related? 

Please tell me how voting software is supposed to predict how many votes come in from a specific county?  Knowing how many voters are, what they will vote for, etc, etc.  I don't know how the software works but shit ain't that easy.  Lets say they did create that, why would it be worth programming and spending money on?  Anyone with half a brain will catch the error,  look even you internet trump warrior in hawaii saw it.  Save 100k.  Make the program less complex.  I know from personal experience the more complex a program is the more likely it is to break . 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 13, 2020, 02:47:40 PM
Wait, so did the banks explain it away as "customer error," and leave you with the fees and penalties to pay?  Did they ever fix the errors so that never happened again?  Or did they do what the States did, and never go back to fix anything even though Texas rejected the software and the 2000 election had almost the exact same problems with voting systems?

Cost?  How much does it cost to toss out a general election in a state?  How much does a recount, re-canvassing and audit cost when these errors happen?

I really think you should take some more IT courses.  Your rationalizations are not based in reality.

If I ran the testing outfit for that voting software, these things would have surfaced long before the election ever came close to starting.  Claiming it's a matter of cost is a copout.  I should know.  IT has been my life for longer than you've been alive -- including the 9 months you were alive before crying with your first real breath.

Customer error,  they refunded on what I know about it.  Reversed the mistake.  Cost them 5min of customer support time vs X dollars to program.  Again I am not a software engineer, never was, never want to be.  But to jump to the conclusion its corruption by deep state democrats is foolish.  That's what I know. 

You might be 100% right in the end who knows,  but what I do know if there are people smarter than both you and me working on this.  The justice system will figure it out in the end.   Until them making accusations with no solid proof is foolish.  Especially when a bunch of the claims have been PROVEN to be false.
Title: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 13, 2020, 02:57:24 PM
Because I personally hate all this fake news.  All these accusations with no viable proof, no court wins, nothing all but conspiracies. Parading as fact.  There's no logic, just personal feelings on both sides.  Trump is spreading lies, half the things he said have been proven false already.  So many of the postings in this thread have been proven wrong.  This is all a clusterfuck and I refuse to stand by and watch democracy fall.  We believe in the system till proven otherwise.  Innocent till proven guilty.  Fuck all these stupid ass conspiracy theories.  QAnon etc are stupid as hell as well.  We go further away from science and American values day by day.

If there is true corruption then, good we catch it and fix it.  But don't count the hens before they hatch.  Prove everything beyond a reasonable doubt.  Don't just make shit up.
A lot of people distrust news these days and are trying to sort through the truth from the disinformation / propaganda. 

Just curious...  Do you consider mainstream media news to be “not fake” news?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 02:59:49 PM
Again with the assumptions when you know nothing about me,  I have also talked guns with coworkers,  they own firearms also.  Didn't I tell you it wasn't work related? 

Please tell me how voting software is supposed to predict how many votes come in from a specific county?  Knowing how many voters are, what they will vote for, etc, etc.  I don't know how the software works but shit ain't that easy.  Lets say they did create that, why would it be worth programming and spending money on?  Anyone with half a brain will catch the error,  look even you internet trump warrior in hawaii saw it.  Save 100k.  Make the program less complex.  I know from personal experience the more complex a program is the more likely it is to break .

OMFG!!  The voter registration and polling information is in a database.  Voter registration information from walk-ins can be added as well when they are verifying the person's information, eligibility to vote, etc.  Once they have a complete registration dataset, they know how many people voted -- no "prediction" is needed.

The information exists.  The fact they are having these "glitches" tells me they are not even trying to compare the totals at all.

"Shit ain't that easy?"  Maybe for you.  My last job with Hawaii Energy involved merging and comparing data from over a dozen sources with HECO, MECO and HELCO electricity customer accounts, identifying what energy savings measure were being installed, the comparative amount of anticipated energy that would save the customer/state, and what the cost/kWh that savings involved, because you don't want to make a customer pay more for an energy saving measure than it would save him over the life of the installed measure.  That would not be effective to make people pay to save energy.  Counter-intuitive.

From Real Estate databases with square footage, number of condo units, AC designs, weather stats to adjust for seasonal variances (apples to apples comparisons), and individual savings estimates based not only on lighting but the amount of heat no longer generated and the effect that change had on air conditioning requirements.

I understand what "complex" can be.  You seem to think it can be used as an excuse for failure and to cover up for potential election interference -- intentional or simply as a result of negligence or incompetence.

If someone at the state level didn't ask for certification testing of the system, that's on them.  But it doesn't excuse anyone for the cluster fuck they created by making the decision to use that system.  Ultimately, the states have the responsibility to make wise purchases with taxpayer funds.  We all know how inept the average state government employee appears.  If not, go get a building permit for some simple electrical changes in your house.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 13, 2020, 03:06:31 PM
A lot of people distrust news these days and are trying to sort through the truth from the disinformation / propaganda. 

Just curious...  Do you consider mainstream media news to be “not fake” news?

Mainstream news is a mixture of fake news and real.  Also depends greatly on the source.  Some like msn etc are much more fake than others.  But the way this thread is going is more like the witchhunt the democrats had for russia vs a fact finding thread.

I think people are seeking out too many unreliable sources, retransmitting un-verified news and making things up.  The justice system and government isn't perfect but that's how we as Americans judge truth.   Its a pillar of our society and to bypass it and pass accusations off as truth is incorrect in my eyes. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 03:09:23 PM
Customer error,  they refunded on what I know about it.  Reversed the mistake.  Cost them 5min of customer support time vs X dollars to program.  Again I am not a software engineer, never was, never want to be.  But to jump to the conclusion its corruption by deep state democrats is foolish.  That's what I know. 

You might be 100% right in the end who knows,  but what I do know if there are people smarter than both you and me working on this.  The justice system will figure it out in the end.   Until them making accusations with no solid proof is foolish.  Especially when a bunch of the claims have been PROVEN to be false.

Since you admit to not being a software engineer, then you should refrain from giving any opinions on how much or how little a fix for a problem might cost.

Errors exist in fielded systems because (1) the state accepted the system with known errors, (2) the errors were never tested for, (3) the procurement office only knows dollars and has no clue about software other than what the local IT guy recommended, (4) there were kickbacks from a $34B budget in a single election that wanted a system they could ensure created plausible explanations when tabulating errors were uncovered.

Software can be released with some "future planned" features missing, but bugs -- the things in software that cause errors -- must at a minimum be identified in testing.  If the problems are a high enough priority, they get fixed before release.  If not high enough, they may be fixed after the important ones are fixed and tested, or if time and money are insufficient, they may be tabled for a future maintenance release.  I highly doubt any of the errors we are discussing have been documented.  Testing never found them, and customers who already reported these problems apparently didn't pay enough to have them fixed -- they still exist.

I can't fix you.  I can only explain why you have no idea what you're saying -- even when being a non-software engineer wasn't enough to stop you.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 03:14:08 PM
Mainstream news is a mixture of fake news and real.  Also depends greatly on the source.  Some like msn etc are much more fake than others.  But the way this thread is going is more like the witchhunt the democrats had for russia vs a fact finding thread.

I think people are seeking out too many unreliable sources, retransmitting un-verified news and making things up.  The justice system and government isn't perfect but that's how we as Americans judge truth.   Its a pillar of our society and to bypass it and pass accusations off as truth is incorrect in my eyes.

Fact finding is impossible when the MSM is ignoring the facts in their reporting.

They censored the President and the White House Press Secretary in mid-press-conference using the excuse that they were about to say something about election fraud without evidence.  They didn't even wait long enough to HEAR THEIR EVIDENCE which came about a minute or less later.

Without a press that's interested in finding the facts, you will never be able to achieve your "fact finding thread".  The best alternative is look for non-MSM sources and evaluate the facts they give in context.

When the press leaves a void in their reporting, facts, both true and made-up, fill that void.  Don't blame us if the media is giving the election the same (lack of) coverage they gave the Biden laptop.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 13, 2020, 03:18:55 PM
I thought you were in IT.  Are you lying about that, too?
I have given up calling him out about his lies. Because I catch him in so many lies it is just not worth it to me any more. I can’t figure out how he is not so ashamed of himself that he continues to post here. He obviously doesn’t care about the lying. He is oblivious to the ramifications of being a constant bullshitter. Karma will catch up to him again. And again. And again. Hopefully, he will wake up one day and see the forest through the trees. Because at this time in his life he is too stupid to see and accept the truth. He claims to be this open minded person but when confronted with the truth and the facts he just ignores them. I don’t know about you, but he is not worth my time.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 13, 2020, 03:26:39 PM
You're going to have to accept the reality that some of the stuff presented on the Internet will be fake while some will be real.
But to jump to a conclusion that all the information being presented is fake (or real for that matter) is a bit naive and honestly, intellectually dishonest.

The "scientific method" is about being open to the possibility that one's assertions are incorrect.  You have a hypothesis, you observe and verify if your assertions are correct or not.
To immediately rule something out because it doesn't match your assertions is not being consistent with scientific thinking.

Unless someone here is directly involved with the election counting, the lawsuits or the courts, we won't be in a position to present first hand evidence and are going to live with second hand info regarding this election.

Everyone is asking questions and looking at presented second hand information to know if our elections were compromised or not.
It's not perfect, but it's the best option that we have.

Chill, have a good weekend and let it play out. 

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 03:34:26 PM
I have given up calling him out about his lies. Because I catch him in so many lies it is just not worth it to me any more. I can’t figure out how he is not so ashamed of himself that he continues to post here. He obviously doesn’t care about the lying. He is oblivious to the ramifications of being a constant bullshitter. Karma will catch up to him again. And again. And again. Hopefully, he will wake up one day and see the forest through the trees. Because at this time in his life he is too stupid to see and accept the truth. He claims to be this open minded person but when confronted with the truth and the facts he just ignores them. I don’t know about you, but he is not worth my time.

I like getting him on the record, for future reference.

Such as, him admitting he doesn't think voting matters since HIS vote in the state is irrelevant.  That's exactly why his opinion on the "human error" is important.  If he cared about voting across the nation, he would want to make sure ALL LEGITIMATE VOTES are properly counted and reported.  Instead, he is perfectly fine with, "Fix whatever we can find, and the rest -- meh!"

His opinion on voter fraud in general (no evidence) is bleeding over into actual inaccuracies reported in the tallies and reports (we caught and fixed them, so meh.)  He can't see past the number of problems reported to extrapolate that the CHANCE that there are MANY MORE INSTANCES of the same problem (all seemingly in Biden's favor) may be quite high.  It's not about assigning blame (conspiracy blah blah) as it is casting doubt on the accuracy of the results as reported.

He's taking what the MSM is feeding him.  They want to spin these as accusations of "voter fraud", then excusing the problems as "errors".  The reality is, we are worried about ALL causes of errors, whether it's from intentional acts, poor procurement and testing, human error, or no kidding fraud.

He apparently isn't concerned if enough votes and totals are found to be wrong even though they would have given the win to another candidate.

For someone so interested in fairness, the Constitution and Democracy, he sure doesn't seem too concerned when voters are being disenfranchised by software vendors, government workers and "glitches".
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 03:35:45 PM
You're going to have to accept the reality that some of the stuff presented on the Internet will be fake while some will be real.
But to jump to a conclusion that all the information being presented is fake (or real for that matter) is a bit naive and honestly, intellectually  dishonest  lazy.

[snippity-snip]

FIFY
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 13, 2020, 03:42:51 PM
I was gonna reply, but Jl got it pretty much covered. . .  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 13, 2020, 03:43:43 PM
State of Hawaii IT I assume. Different standards as we see.
ctrl-alt-del

solves everythang
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 13, 2020, 03:43:59 PM
I like getting him on the record, for future reference.

Such as, him admitting he doesn't think voting matters since HIS vote in the state is irrelevant.  That's exactly why his opinion on the "human error" is important.  If he cared about voting across the nation, he would want to make sure ALL LEGITIMATE VOTES are properly counted and reported.  Instead, he is perfectly fine with, "Fix whatever we can find, and the rest -- meh!"

His opinion on voter fraud in general (no evidence) is bleeding over into actual inaccuracies reported in the tallies and reports (we caught and fixed them, so meh.)  He can't see past the number of problems reported to extrapolate that the CHANCE that there are MANY MORE INSTANCES of the same problem (all seemingly in Biden's favor) may be quite high.  It's not about assigning blame (conspiracy blah blah) as it is casting doubt on the accuracy of the results as reported.

He's taking what the MSM is feeding him.  They want to spin these as accusations of "voter fraud", then excusing the problems as "errors".  The reality is, we are worried about ALL causes of errors, whether it's from intentional acts, poor procurement and testing, human error, or no kidding fraud.

He apparently isn't concerned if enough votes and totals are found to be wrong even though they would have given the win to another candidate.

For someone so interested in fairness, the Constitution and Democracy, he sure doesn't seem too concerned when voters are being disenfranchised by software vendors, government workers and "glitches".
He keeps parroting that there is no evidence. Yet there is a lot of evidence in every fraud lawsuit that Trump has filed so far. The lawsuit in MI has over 200 pages of eyewitness sworn affidavits. That is evidence one cannot deny. Yet he keeps ignoring that fact and saying it is not evidence. Stupidity reins supreme in this one.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 13, 2020, 03:46:31 PM
I have given up calling him out about his lies. Because I catch him in so many lies it is just not worth it to me any more. I can’t figure out how he is not so ashamed of himself that he continues to post here. He obviously doesn’t care about the lying. He is oblivious to the ramifications of being a constant bullshitter. Karma will catch up to him again. And again. And again. Hopefully, he will wake up one day and see the forest through the trees. Because at this time in his life he is too stupid to see and accept the truth. He claims to be this open minded person but when confronted with the truth and the facts he just ignores them. I don’t know about you, but he is not worth my time.
Beer-thirty!  Or whiskey-thirty! 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 13, 2020, 03:47:30 PM
State of Hawaii IT I assume. Different standards as we see.
The State of Hawaii IT Guys that I worked with were a bunch of lazy bums that sat on their computers on eBay, Amazon, Youtube and FB all day doing basically only an hour or so of work a day. If that much.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 13, 2020, 03:47:56 PM
Beer-thirty!  Or whiskey-thirty!
Beer -thirty.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 03:50:36 PM
He keeps parroting that there is no evidence. Yet there is a lot of evidence in every fraud lawsuit that Trump has filed so far. The lawsuit in MI has over 200 pages of eyewitness sworn affidavits. That is evidence one cannot deny. Yet he keeps ignoring that fact and saying it is not evidence. Stupidity reins supreme in this one.

Not only that, many of the lawsuits have to wait until the results are certified by the state.  Can't sue for results that haven't been posted yet.

So, until those states certify, there's not going to be a ton of evidence heard in court.

Also, PA lost in court over extended time for mail-in ballots to be received.  As expected, the court agreed that the PA Legislature, not the State Supreme Court, that sets up the election laws and rules.  The law said ballots must be received by 8PM on election day.  The 3 day extension, and then another additional extension, were deemed unconstitutional.  There are more victories coming for the Trump side, but with so many accusations in so many states, it's tough to predict which will prevail.

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 03:53:28 PM
The State of Hawaii IT Guys that I worked with were a bunch of lazy bums that sat on their computers on eBay, Amazon, Youtube and FB all day doing basically only an hour or so of work a day. If that much.

Explains how he has time to be on the forum while claiming to work 60 hours a week.

I hope we aren't picking up the tab for his overtime on top of his regular hours. 

Would be terrible to discover we are (over) paying his salary to be on here!     :shake:   :wtf:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 13, 2020, 03:55:35 PM
I'll just let this thread go jl808 said.   See you guys again when the court cases finish.   Then we won't be arguing about what ifs. But in facts. Playing devils advocate clearly isn't working here.   Trying to keep some balance to a conversation was good in theory but not in execution.   Hope this doesn't turn into a echo chamber.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 13, 2020, 03:57:09 PM
Not only that, many of the lawsuits have to wait until the results are certified by the state.  Can't sue for results that haven't been posted yet.

So, until those states certify, there's not going to be a ton of evidence heard in court.

Also, PA lost in court over extended time for mail-in ballots to be received.  As expected, the court agreed that the PA Legislature, not the State Supreme Court, that sets up the election laws and rules.  The law said ballots must be received by 8PM on election day.  The 3 day extension, and then another additional extension, were deemed unconstitutional.  There are more victories coming for the Trump side, but with so many accusations in so many states, it's tough to predict which will prevail.
I heard today that the Trump team pulled all lawsuits in AZ. Sharpiegate turned out to be too small to make any difference. As well as the other fraud accusations. This is what I feared most. It is pretty easy to prove fraud. It is monumental to prove it occurred in a quantity that makes any difference.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 13, 2020, 03:59:05 PM
He keeps parroting that there is no evidence. Yet there is a lot of evidence in every fraud lawsuit that Trump has filed so far. The lawsuit in MI has over 200 pages of eyewitness sworn affidavits. That is evidence one cannot deny. Yet he keeps ignoring that fact and saying it is not evidence. Stupidity reins supreme in this one.
Not "proven" das why.  Nevah get court order or ruling.  That's not the end all be all measure, but it arbitrarily is to some.  The evidence could whack him square in the face, but he's still argue it was a fluke or something because he doesn't believe. 

IMO, I think there's lots of evidence.  Enough to change the tide?  I don't think so.  But just because corruption isn't proven, doesn't mean it's not happening.  To argue that it's not happening is just plain naive. But I think we already know who has demonstrated now naive they are.  Then even so, they are super sure that it's not their fault.  It's the mean mean world that takes advantage of trusting angels.  GMAFB. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 13, 2020, 03:59:47 PM
The State of Hawaii IT Guys that I worked with were a bunch of lazy bums that sat on their computers on eBay, Amazon, Youtube and FB all day doing basically only an hour or so of work a day. If that much.

Sigh I guess busting out my phone to quick comment on a thread on the way to the bathroom is too much distraction.   Or posting when taking a shit.  Also works nights.  I work far more than 1 hour and all internet is monitored.... maybe I should just post less clearly everyone is hostile and I'm not getting any positive results back from my efforts. I tried to bring a more diverse and center oriented view points. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 04:04:09 PM
Sigh I guess busting out my phone to quick comment on a thread on the way to the bathroom is too much distraction.   Or posting when taking a shit.  I work far more than 1 hour and all internet is monitored.... maybe I should just post less clearly everyone is hostile and I'm not getting any positive results back from my efforts. I tried to bring a more diverse and center oriented view points.

You should think about making proctologist and gastroenterologist appointments.  You're going to the bathroom way too frequently for someone your age.

Maybe the proctologist can help you dislodge your head while he's down there.   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 13, 2020, 04:09:21 PM
Sigh I guess busting out my phone to quick comment on a thread on the way to the bathroom is too much distraction.   Or posting when taking a shit.  I work far more than 1 hour and all internet is monitored.... maybe I should just post less clearly everyone is hostile and I'm not getting any positive results back from my efforts. I tried to bring a more diverse and center oriented view points.
It is VERY clear I was not talking to you. And it should be VERY clear I was NOT talking about you. I never worked with you so how would I know you are a lazy bum and only work an hour a day. So you once again acting all butt hurt and taking something personally that is not about you personally. That is immature and shows you are insecure.

But if I had to guess, based on the number and size of your posts during the day, I would say you are taking a shit or on your way to the shitter for hours every day.  :wtf:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 13, 2020, 04:12:14 PM
Mainstream news is a mixture of fake news and real.  Also depends greatly on the source.  Some like msn etc are much more fake than others.  But the way this thread is going is more like the witchhunt the democrats had for russia vs a fact finding thread.

I think people are seeking out too many unreliable sources, retransmitting un-verified news and making things up.  The justice system and government isn't perfect but that's how we as Americans judge truth.   Its a pillar of our society and to bypass it and pass accusations off as truth is incorrect in my eyes.

It is not about the percentage of lies vs truth that has everyone concerned at the moment, but the particular thing they are lying about which could possibly cause a civil war. Activism vs journalism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6luFJvZt-og

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 04:14:48 PM
It is VERY clear I was not talking to you. And it should be VERY clear I was NOT talking about you. I never worked with you so how would I know you are a lazy bum and only work an hour a day. So you once again acting all butt hurt and taking something personally that is not about you personally. That is immature and shows you are insecure.

But if I had to guess, based on the number and size of your posts during the day, I would say you are taking a shit or on your way to the shitter for hours every day.  :wtf:

"Shit break" is the new "smoke break?"

I used to consider taking up smoking because smokers got a 10-15 minute break every hour while the rest of us continued to toil at our desks.

More of us would take hourly bathroom breaks if we could, but not many of us are as full of shit as ..... well .... you know.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 13, 2020, 04:28:19 PM
"Shit break" is the new "smoke break?"

I used to consider taking up smoking because smokers got a 10-15 minute break every hour while the rest of us continued to toil at our desks.

More of us would take hourly bathroom breaks if we could, but not many of us are as full of shit as ..... well .... you know.
Funny you mention this.

When I started working for Cisco in 1996 I had just quit smoking. And out of over 100 people working in the Irvine office the only person who smoked was my boss. And when I first started I had to go down stairs to the exit door to find him to ask him a question. And while I was standing there talking to him he was smoking. Which drove me nuts because I was still in the throngs of nicotine addiction. I look back at it now and I laugh but back then it was tough to not smoke being around my boss. And OMG he stunk like an ashtray. It was my third time quitting cold turkey and thankfully I stuck it out.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 13, 2020, 04:34:00 PM
Guess it was taken too literally I was trying to describe that I post when walking to a destination.   Restroom, call to fix something,  getting water, etc.  You know us millennials can multi task. Also 1 hr lunch and 2 mandated breaks lol.  Regardless we are pointlessly off topic and I'll refrain from further adding to the mess.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 13, 2020, 04:38:21 PM
Guess it was taken too literally I was trying to describe that I post when walking to a destination.   Restroom, call to fix something,  getting water, etc.  You know us millennials can multi task. Regardless we are pointlessly off topic and I'll refrain from further adding to the mess
Backpeddle much? You said it, I called you on it. Now you are backpeddling.  :rofl:

Lie much? Until you stop posting no one will believe what you said about not posting.  :rofl:

Maybe this post will be my last word?  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 13, 2020, 04:41:22 PM
Backpeddle much? You said it, I called you on it. Now you are backpeddling.  :rofl:

Lie much? Until you stop posting no one will believe what you said about not posting.  :rofl:

Maybe this post will be my last word?  :rofl:

With only a few minutes if that to post,  I tend to leave out details. Not really a lie, but it's my fault. Theres pros and many cons with how I post kinda realizing that now.  Only so much you can do in 60 seconds. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 13, 2020, 04:45:50 PM
With only a few minutes if that to post,  I tend to leave out details. Not really a lie, but it's my fault. Theres pros and many cons with how I post kinda realizing that now.  Only so much you can do in 60 seconds.
Based on your past record I don’t believe you. But even if it is true, YOU ARE STILL POSTING WHEN YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO STOP!

LIE MUCH?  :rofl:

The battery on my iPad is dying. You better keep lying and make another post so you can get the last word.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 13, 2020, 05:12:37 PM
US election 2020: Five viral vote claims fact-checked
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54811410

Did you guys not read the post I wrote before?

MSM news has been "fact checked" by "experts."

So you can rest assured, said experts have confirmed MSM to be fake.

Even the MSM and Big Tech fact checkers have been fact checked to be fake.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: passivekinetic on November 13, 2020, 05:19:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDcm06Qi1CA
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 05:26:00 PM
Guess it was taken too literally I was trying to describe that I post when walking to a destination.   Restroom, call to fix something,  getting water, etc.  You know us millennials can multi task. Also 1 hr lunch and 2 mandated breaks lol.  Regardless we are pointlessly off topic and I'll refrain from further adding to the mess.

Millennials know how to multitask?

It's apparent you've never been in a supervisory position, and that includes parenting!   :sleeping:

Having your attention divided between multiple devices is NOT multitasking.  That's called "being interrupt driven."  Multitasking is taking care of multiple tasks that requires disparate thought processes simultaneously. 

If you think getting a drink of water or eating lunch is a task in need of significant brain power, that tells us a lot about you.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 05:28:03 PM
With only a few minutes if that to post,  I tend to leave out details. Not really a lie, but it's my fault. Theres pros and many cons with how I post kinda realizing that now.  Only so much you can do in 60 seconds.

None of this has anything to do with election fraud evidence.

Why does every thread you post in always come back around to being about you?   :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:   

That's a rhetorical question and is not seeking a reply.

:stopjack:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 13, 2020, 05:41:45 PM
With only a few minutes if that to post,  I tend to leave out details. Not really a lie, but it's my fault. Theres pros and many cons with how I post kinda realizing that now.  Only so much you can do in 60 seconds.

that's what she said
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 13, 2020, 05:43:55 PM
Maybe he's the drink holder problem solver?

Customer: (calls IT number). Hello my drink holder broke. It wont close.

IT guy: sir what drink holder?

Customer: u know that button u push on the tower and the tray comes out. I put my drink on it and now it wont close.

IT guy: cool, towers have drink holders. Let me try.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 13, 2020, 05:52:59 PM
Again with the assumptions when you know nothing about me,  I have also talked guns with coworkers,  they own firearms also.  Didn't I tell you it wasn't work related? 


you still haven't said what other rally you attended...
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 05:55:24 PM
Maybe he's the drink holder problem solver?

Customer: (calls IT number). Hello my drink holder broke. It wont close.

IT guy: sir what drink holder?

Customer: u know that button u push on the tower and the tray comes out. I put my drink on it and now it wont close.

IT guy: cool, towers have drink holders. Let me try.

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

I have hundreds of those.  I call them "Stupid User Tricks" swiped from David Letterman's Stupid Pet Tricks.

I also have a collection of Stupid Administrator Tricks. 

All of my "Tricks" were actual things I saw or was told of right after it happened.  Some things you can't make up.

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 07:26:38 PM
MSNBC's Fact Checkers:  While there are GOP accusations that Dead People are Voting every election cycle, there is no evidence to support this claim.

When asked to prove their statement, GOP said, "We are not saying that actual dead people are voting.  We are making the claim that living people are voting under the identity of deceased voters."

Based on our investigation and the GOP's own words, the GOP claim that "Dead People are Voting" is FALSE.

 :wacko:

**Parody.  But, that doesn't mean the Fact Checkers are doing their jobs any better than this.   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 13, 2020, 07:33:49 PM
Election Data Team to Call 1.25 Million Voters Over Anomalies in 6 Contested States

https://www.theepochtimes.com/election-data-team-to-call-1-25-million-voters-over-anomalies-in-6-contested-states_3578114.html?utm_source=newsnoeshare&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-11-13-5

That's a lot of people to call!
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 07:35:50 PM
One of the arguments that caused the Supreme Court to stop the 2000 election recount in Florida was based on the 14th amendment.  Florida was counting only Dem-leaning counties.  SCOTUS ruled that equal protection under the law applied to the recount.  Therefore, they either recount ALL counties, or NO counties.

The same argument is being presented in this election soon.  There are affidavits that claim different counties were given different standards for fixing mail-in ballots.  Dem-leaning counties were instructed to contact voters via texts or phone calls to have them alter their ballots so they were counted.  Republican-leaning counties were told to just discard the ballots.

The Bush v Gore precedent should apply,
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 13, 2020, 09:03:53 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/shocking-exclusive-caught-pennsylvania-results-show-statistically-impossible-pattern-behind-bidens-steal-caught/
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 13, 2020, 09:05:42 PM
MSNBC's Fact Checkers:  While there are GOP accusations that Dead People are Voting every election cycle, there is no evidence to support this claim.

When asked to prove their statement, GOP said, "We are not saying that actual dead people are voting.  We are making the claim that living people are voting under the identity of deceased voters."

Based on our investigation and the GOP's own words, the GOP claim that "Dead People are Voting" is FALSE.

 :wacko:

**Parody.  But, that doesn't mean the Fact Checkers are doing their jobs any better than this.   :geekdanc:
Thats how fact checkers work. Find reasons.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: eyeeatingfish on November 13, 2020, 10:02:36 PM
Why are you telling anyone what to do or not do if you're not engaged enough to bother?

 :sleeping:

Your premise is flawed.

I practice temperance instead of allowing emotions to cause my to blindly jump onto one side or the other.

I take time to digest the facts separate from the claims and let investigations play out before declaring who was right or wrong. Not sure why you object to that so much.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 10:10:18 PM
Your premise is flawed.

I practice temperance instead of allowing emotions to cause my to blindly jump onto one side or the other.

I take time to digest the facts separate from the claims and let investigations play out before declaring who was right or wrong. Not sure why you object to that so much.

I don't object to anyone being objective.  Your accusation is totally "flawed" and baseless.

But, when you admonish others to not jump on "the conspiracy theory bandwagon," it's insulting to us all.  It also shows you've already decided without any discussion that what you believe is not conspiracy theory, and anything others believe probably is.

You obviously believe you're the only one here who takes "time to digest the facts separate from the claims and let investigations play out before declaring who was right or wrong."  You give opinions all the time based on a single anti-Trump article.  Don't act like you're Mister "I reserve judgement until all the facts are in" all of a sudden.

No, you should not be telling anyone here how to think or what to believe.  You don't get to do that.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: eyeeatingfish on November 13, 2020, 10:15:52 PM
I am interested to know what you mean by "circular logic" after having seen all the evidence posted so far. Obviously you have seen it, for such an important topic as our national election, all posted conveniently here (except for the one censored so far).

Not saying all of it is circular of course but I have seen circular arguments. Something along the lines of "there is voter fraud but we don't have the evidence because it was covered up and thats why we know there is voter fraud".

There is a lot to digest, so many jurisdictions involved, so many allegations, so many lawsuits, etc. Some of the accusations seem credible, some seem not so credible. Some even appear to be true instances of voter fraud but don't amount to even close to enough votes to make a difference.

I know legal investigations into this type of thing take time so authorities aren't going to be able to provide the immediate answers we all want to know, and unfortunately this fuels the conspiracy theories. I am interested in seeing how all the Trump lawsuits play out and listen to what the judge rules on each case.

I think that there are some red flags that need looking into but so far I don't see enough to prove Trump's claims of widespread voter fraud, and I don't see enough to prove democrat claims that the election was so secure it shouldn't be questioned. It may take another few weeks or even into December before we get a better idea of what is and isn't known.

Politicians and lawyers will always lead with the big claims because they all know once people get emotional they adhere to the first version of events they hear. I would rather wait and hear how the witnesses and evidence stands up in court and scrutiny.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 13, 2020, 10:17:47 PM
Fourteen minute interview with Steve Cortes re the statistical anomalies/improbabilities of voting patterns. "It is not conclusive proof, it is a circumstantial case. However, it is a very compelling circumstantial case."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukxqgwMNHbo&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: eyeeatingfish on November 13, 2020, 10:22:54 PM
I don't object to anyone being objective.  Your accusation is totally "flawed" and baseless.

But, when you admonish others to not jump on "the conspiracy theory bandwagon," it's insulting to us all.  It also shows you've already decided without any discussion that what you believe is not conspiracy theory, and anything others believe probably is.

You obviously believe you're the only one here who takes "time to digest the facts separate from the claims and let investigations play out before declaring who was right or wrong."  You give opinions all the time based on a single anti-Trump article.  Don't act like you're Mister "I reserve judgement until all the facts are in" all of a sudden.

No, you should not be telling anyone here how to think or what to believe.  You don't get to do that.

You characterized my temperance as not being engaged when my initial post was clearly encouraging objectivity. How else was I to take your response other than a criticism of my choice to be objective?

If you aren't jumping onto a conspiracy bandwagon then you have no reason to feel insulting. It was a general comment suggesting we all exercise slowing down and let investigations run their course.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 13, 2020, 10:41:46 PM
You characterized my temperance as not being engaged when my initial post was clearly encouraging objectivity. How else was I to take your response other than a criticism of my choice to be objective?

If you aren't jumping onto a conspiracy bandwagon then you have no reason to feel insulting. It was a general comment suggesting we all exercise slowing down and let investigations run their course.

That's not what you said.  You said:

Quote
I am going to sit and wait for the proper authorities to sort through this one.
Please guys, don't jump on the conspiracy theory bandwagons with the circular logic.

If you aren't engaged enough to discuss the circumstances, the history from 2000 as it's VERY relevant, the censorship of the President, his staff and everyone else on Social Media who dares to have an opinion that differs from the MSM (they declared Biden has won. Any other opinion is FAKE NEWS and DANGEROUS), then why even bother posting at all?

You're allowed to withhold your opinion as you wait for the final outcome without posting that's what you're doing while also telling us to do the same.

Could have just clicked past this thread altogether.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 14, 2020, 02:11:08 AM
Proof of election fraud:

https://youtu.be/Pq3LfPsAox0

PA Supreme Court threw out votes that were illegally accepted and counted
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 14, 2020, 05:40:30 AM
Why Pennsylvania voting doesn’t add up.

https://spectator.org/pennsylvania-voting-doesnt-add-up/


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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 14, 2020, 05:47:17 AM
If you aren't jumping onto a conspiracy bandwagon then you have no reason to feel insulting.

There’s “Conspiracy” and there’s also conspiracy.

By @DineshDsouza

All organized criminal activity is a conspiracy. Keep that in mind the next time you hear some media figure disdainfully refer to “conspiracy theories” as if the concept itself were inherently ridiculous #election2020

https://parler.com/post/bc323abb0a844239ba4d199e43757ba9


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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 14, 2020, 06:01:02 AM
Why Pennsylvania voting doesn’t add up.

https://spectator.org/pennsylvania-voting-doesnt-add-up/


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Thank you for this, it is very insightful. Based on the PA Supreme Court ruling throwing out ballots due to election fraud I think we can finally put to bed the idea that there was no fraud. Now I think the only thing that remains is how far reaching it is going to end up being. I have my beliefs but I am going to hold back until I see some proof as to whether or not there is enough to change outcomes.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 14, 2020, 09:43:42 AM
Georgia recount just as dirty as the election

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/the_georgia_recount_may_be_as_corrupt_as_the_election_itself.html
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 14, 2020, 10:45:19 AM
Radio interview of attorney Lin Wood (who won the CNN settlement for Covington's Nick Sandmann, and now represents Kyle Rittenhouse, and also represented Richard Jewel in the Olympics bombing charge) who is working in Georgia to get an actual full audit rather than merely a "recount" of "bad" ballots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLhkzKAf9f0
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Brystont1 on November 14, 2020, 11:17:08 AM
Georgia recount just as dirty as the election

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/the_georgia_recount_may_be_as_corrupt_as_the_election_itself.html

Gotta understand that conservative or not nobody wants to look bad. I find it highly unlikely that even in conservative counties they will find thousands of fraudulent ballots because it would reflect badly on the leaders in those areas. Just a cluster fuck of an election. Hopefully after this fiasco they will clean this horseshit of an election process up.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 14, 2020, 11:23:35 AM
Gotta understand that conservative or not nobody wants to look bad. I find it highly unlikely that even in conservative counties they will find thousands of fraudulent ballots because it would reflect badly on the leaders in those areas. Just a cluster fuck of an election. Hopefully after this fiasco they will clean this horseshit of an election process up.
If "they" get away with this level or fraud, malfeasance, incompetence, technical errors, etc., what would be their motive to "fix" or "clean up" anything?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Brystont1 on November 14, 2020, 11:26:54 AM
If "they" get away with this level or fraud, malfeasance, incompetence, technical errors, etc., what would be their motive to "fix" or "clean up" anything?

Idk man. It’s all just very disheartening. I really see civil war in our future.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 14, 2020, 11:33:16 AM
Idk man. It’s all just very disheartening. I really see civil war in our future.
Not trying to fan the flame, but I think one side appears to have been quite brazen, confident they either wouldn’t get caught or a true win at all cost stance. And another side that is very patriotic.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 14, 2020, 11:37:16 AM
Gotta understand that conservative or not nobody wants to look bad. I find it highly unlikely that even in conservative counties they will find thousands of fraudulent ballots because it would reflect badly on the leaders in those areas. Just a cluster fuck of an election. Hopefully after this fiasco they will clean this horseshit of an election process up.

That's interesting, since I've seen almost no evidence of multiple reports of illegal election activities in Republican areas.

The recounts are being done statewide, not just in counties run by Dems where Trump lost.

The problem with your "doubt" is it's not what's at issue.  The issue is not how many fraudulent ballots there are, but whether the process in the state is (1) Constitutional based on Article II, § 1, and (2) Constitutional based on the 14th Amendment's equal protection under the law provision. 

If ANY number of ballots shows that the process was not run in a Constitutional manner, the state's entire election is suspect and should be voided.  That gives the Legislature time to act and select a winner for the electoral college.  If the E.C. deadline is looming, and the state legislature can't meet in time, or the Supreme Court declares the state ineligible to participate in the E.C. (corrupt politicians that caused the election problems shouldn't then be given the choice to select winners), the winner will need to rely on the remaining states to push them over the finish line.

I wonder, if a state is not allowed to vote in the E.C., will the 270 threshold still apply?  The Constitution simply says a majority of votes is needed.  If, say, PA is excluded, then 20 votes are gone.  Half that would make the winning minimum EC votes 260.  The lower that majority number drops, the closer to a toss-up the final election result becomes.  That's how I think that scenario would play out.  Anything is possible at this point.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 14, 2020, 11:49:08 AM
A proposal for a solution: At 11:50 AM on January 20, 2021 no-holds-barred cage match to be followed at noon by the swearing in of the winner.

That'd be evidence of something.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 14, 2020, 12:03:12 PM
This is not evidence, but it is an opinion of a Democrat former Congressperson: Dr. (PhD) Cynthia McKinney in 50 Seconds -- Trump Won Big; Expose It All, STAY THE COURSE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYscHZPRSJc&feature=emb_logo

Here is a longer interview, 15 minutes re "deep state" etc., from July 2018:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj-41DTv1nY&feature=emb_logo

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 14, 2020, 12:04:07 PM
A proposal for a solution: At 11:50 AM on January 20, 2021 no-holds-barred cage match to be followed at noon by the swearing in of the winner.

That'd be evidence of something.

Yeah.  No push-up competition. 

Thunderdome!!
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 14, 2020, 12:04:48 PM
A proposal for a solution: At 11:50 AM on January 20, 2021 no-holds-barred cage match to be followed at noon by the swearing in of the winner.

That'd be evidence of something.
Posted before, but still :lol:

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201114/1a47abc2a944eb3288a3b519c2b444c2.jpg)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 14, 2020, 12:08:31 PM
Posted before, but still :lol:

[knock out punch meme]
Hadn't seen that. Pretty funny. I suspect there may have been a little bit of photoshop work on the Trump physique.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 14, 2020, 12:20:19 PM
Despite the endlessly repeated "no evidence of fraud" mainstream media mantra, a substantial number of insane Russian disinformation conspiracy theorists gathered today in Washington, D.C. to beg to differ...

(https://i.imgur.com/A1EJEMS.jpg)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 14, 2020, 12:29:06 PM
Despite the endlessly repeated "no evidence of fraud" mainstream media mantra, a substantial number of insane Russian disinformation conspiracy theorists gathered today in Washington, D.C. to beg to differ...

(https://i.imgur.com/A1EJEMS.jpg)

wow. I am amazed and surprised
the media will slam this event because of the Chinese virus...because its from China - Joe Biden's friends
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 14, 2020, 12:46:24 PM
wow. I am amazed and surprised
the media will slam this event because of the Chinese virus...because its from China - Joe Biden's friends
And that's the turnout without any mention of it in mainstream media, any organized mention of it being banned in all social media, and eventbrite not only removing it from their site, but then sending emails to all subscribers stating falsely that the event had been cancelled. Fuck all those motherfuckers. Trump 2020. Go Rudy, Lin, Sidney, et al.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on November 14, 2020, 12:55:01 PM
Hadn't seen that. Pretty funny. I suspect there may have been a little bit of photoshop work on the Trump physique.
And Biden's eyes (even post plastic surgery) are never that wide open.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 14, 2020, 12:56:10 PM
Evidence of the possibility of fraud?

Las Vegas Columnist Ran A Test And County Officials Accepted Fake Signatures On 8 Different Ballots

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fraud-clark-county-election-officials-accepted-my-signature-8-different-ballot-envelopes (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fraud-clark-county-election-officials-accepted-my-signature-8-different-ballot-envelopes)

Excerpt:

Clark County election officials accepted my signature on eight ballot return envelopes during the general election. It’s more evidence that signature verification is a flawed security measure.

For months, election officials have told Nevadans not to worry about ballots piling up in apartment trash cans or sent to wrong addresses.

“Discarded mail ballots cannot just be picked up and voted by anyone,” a fact sheet from the secretary of state’s office says.

“All mail ballots must be signed on the ballot return envelope. This signature is used to authenticate the voter and confirm that it was actually the voter and not another person who returned the mail ballot.”

I wanted to test that claim by simulating what might happen if someone returned ballots that didn’t belong to him or her. Plenty of people had this opportunity. Billy Geurin, a 10-year Las Vegas resident, found five loose ballots in his apartment mailroom. A reader emailed me a picture of a pile of mail on the side of the road, which included loose ballots. There are numerous pictures of similar examples on social media.

Nine people participated in this test. I wrote their names in cursive using my normal handwriting. They then copied my version of their name onto their ballot envelope. This two-step process was necessary to ensure no laws were broken.

On Monday, I asked Clark County Registrar Joe Gloria about this scenario. If ballots signed by someone else “came through, we would still have the signature match to rely on for identity,” he said. Asked if he was confident the safeguard would identify those ballots, he said, “I’m confident that the process has been working throughout this process.”

He was wrong. Eight of the nine ballots went through. In other words, signature verification had an 89 percent failure rate in catching mismatched signatures.

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 14, 2020, 01:33:50 PM
I don’t know if this is true but according to this guy, the person responsible for security of the Dominion Voting System is ANTIFA! 

https://parler.com/post/73359a4d9c384bc0877b603bd38b0714
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: QUIETShooter on November 14, 2020, 01:40:12 PM
And Biden's eyes (even post plastic surgery) are never that wide open.

I've never seen the whites of his eyes.......very creepy.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 14, 2020, 01:40:56 PM
And Biden's eyes (even post plastic surgery) are never that wide open.
More than Pelosi?  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: QUIETShooter on November 14, 2020, 02:12:32 PM
More than Pelosi?  :rofl:

Ha Ha!  Pelosi's eyes look like someone propped them open with toothpicks!
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 14, 2020, 03:09:42 PM
Hmm. Gonna have to read this one closer...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 14, 2020, 05:14:49 PM
wow. I am amazed and surprised
the media will slam this event because of the Chinese virus...because its from China - Joe Biden's friends

Every person in that picture was  6 feet from somebody else.

Social distancing at its finest!   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 14, 2020, 05:16:52 PM
And that's the turnout without any mention of it in mainstream media, any organized mention of it being banned in all social media, and eventbrite not only removing it from their site, but then sending emails to all subscribers stating falsely that the event had been cancelled. Fuck all those motherfuckers. Trump 2020. Go Rudy, Lin, Sidney, et al.

I'd sue EventBrite for putting out false information -- that the event was cancelled.

They can't be allowed to do that while taking down the event's page under the excuse of "false information."

"Sandman" needs to become a verb.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 15, 2020, 04:25:29 AM
Enjoy!

https://youtu.be/q9dFyaUrhTc
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 15, 2020, 04:48:46 AM
Enjoy!

The legislatures in most of the states being called out for election problems are a majority of Republican members.   Why are there not more legislators across all these states raising the roof screaming for the rules to be followed?

If these corrupt elections have existed for as long as people in the states/cities tell us, I wonder if any of the officials we expect to call out these cheaters have themselves benefitted from a stolen election.  Maybe they are afraid if they call out the election officials the truth will come out about their own rigged elections.

When we know there's corruption, we should not expect that corrupt system to weed out its own corruption.  "Fox guarding the henhouse" syndrome.  It's the swamp, just at a state level. 

Given the crap we just learned about the military lying to Trump about US Troop strength in Syria and Libya, I find it difficult to believe the feds can be trusted to investigate these corrupt states.  If they are in the Biden camp, we can't be sure of anything -- just like the Russia-Collusion hoax.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 15, 2020, 05:08:59 AM
The legislatures in most of the states being called out for election problems are a majority of Republican members.   Why are there not more legislators across all these states raising the roof screaming for the rules to be followed?

If these corrupt elections have existed for as long as people in the states/cities tell us, I wonder if any of the officials we expect to call out these cheaters have themselves benefitted from a stolen election.  Maybe they are afraid if they call out the election officials the truth will come out about their own rigged elections.

When we know there's corruption, we should not expect that corrupt system to weed out its own corruption.  "Fox guarding the henhouse" syndrome.  It's the swamp, just at a state level. 

Given the crap we just learned about the military lying to Trump about US Troop strength in Syria and Libya, I find it difficult to believe the feds can be trusted to investigate these corrupt states.  If they are in the Biden camp, we can't be sure of anything -- just like the Russia-Collusion hoax.
While I am pissed off at all the corruption, voter fraud, election fraud, etc. I am afraid a good part of the voter base might just be deaf to it or complacent. I have a fair amount of conservative friends that are now just so tired of the whole thing they are turning a blind eye to some or all of it and just saying “They’ll figure it out”. They think we really have lost control and they have lost faith in and no longer make a difference in the system. It’s sad but that is what I am seeing among my conservative friends. Of course my progressive friends are not pissed at all of this but rather because someone is trying to expose it. Sad.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 15, 2020, 08:39:37 AM
FRAUD?!! Whatchu talkin' 'bout Willis?


(https://i.imgur.com/YDt0P70.png)




(https://i.imgur.com/ij2Z7dm.png?2)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: groveler on November 15, 2020, 08:52:55 AM
While I am pissed off at all the corruption, voter fraud, election fraud, etc. I am afraid a good part of the voter base might just be deaf to it or complacent. I have a fair amount of conservative friends that are now just so tired of the whole thing they are turning a blind eye to some or all of it and just saying “They’ll figure it out”. They think we really have lost control and they have lost faith in and no longer make a difference in the system. It’s sad but that is what I am seeing among my conservative friends. Of course my progressive friends are not pissed at all of this but rather because someone is trying to expose it. Sad.
After spending most my life in blue states WA and HI, I have no faith whatsoever in the "system".
Yes I vote , pay my taxes, go to church, and all that stuff, but that is just all for me and my family.
Fvck everybody else because they want to be bent over and fvcked. Else they would
not be Democrats.
You are a fool if you trust the "system", comply with the "system", and support the "system".
If North Korea were to Nuke Honolulu, I'd celebrate.  I'd be pretty pissed off if they
nuked anywhere else in Hawaii.  That is where I stand.
There are millions like me that feel the same way towards large cities that rule over us.
I raised my kids that way and they are raising their kids that way.
I am angry at a system that allows for elections to be "stolen" or for minority voices not to be heard.
The majority is a mob not to be trusted, ever.  My favorite example is Socrates.
In the modern world, remember, "power comes from the barrel of a gun".
Anything you have get permission to do is not a right,
Hawaii.


Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 15, 2020, 02:01:24 PM
Enjoy!

https://youtu.be/C1X1sY035oo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 15, 2020, 02:17:58 PM
Voter Integrity Fund has found thousands of potential instances of illegal ballots.  They are calling registered voters directly to ask:

-  Did you vote in the Nov 2020 election?
-  Did you request an absentee ballot?
-  Did you return an absentee ballot?

They then cross-reference the responses against poll and voter registration records.

The double voting and "didn't vote, but a ballot was cast under their name" categories may not be proof anyone committed voter fraud, but it is EVIDENCE that there are people voting using a variety of methods and situations to cast illegal ballots -- moved from one state to another, married and is still registered under maiden name (results in duplicate registrations in 2 names), absentee ballots not requested but wound up being returned and counted anyway, etc.

https://youtu.be/KNhGbSK3gd8
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 15, 2020, 05:41:22 PM
Who owns Dominion? Then who owns that (smart hint)?. Gotta connect the dots.

Why are foreign info redacted in their bid that they won.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 15, 2020, 07:27:53 PM
https://youtu.be/YX2J8Y56jag

Front Page: Exposed: Trump votes switched to Biden. Trump won North Carolina and Alaska

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201116/717e029f2c8ff19f0904f7df810286cb.jpg)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 16, 2020, 03:58:08 AM
https://youtu.be/YX2J8Y56jag

Front Page: Exposed: Trump votes switched to Biden. Trump won North Carolina and Alaska

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201116/717e029f2c8ff19f0904f7df810286cb.jpg)
JL thanks for posting this. I think there is no doubt now that there has been election and voter fraud based on this evidence. Now I just hope there is enough time to win at least one lawsuit to overturn results of at least one state.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 16, 2020, 08:25:52 AM
Front Page: Dr. Shiva and 3 whistleblowers step forward about Dominion, the voting software switching votes.

https://youtu.be/RWBTvjgseLI
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 16, 2020, 08:31:30 AM
Lawsuits that tried to disrupt Biden's wins in four states are withdrawn
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/16/politics/lawsuits-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin-georgia/index.html
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 16, 2020, 08:47:13 AM
Lawsuits that tried to disrupt Biden's wins in four states are withdrawn
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/16/politics/lawsuits-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin-georgia/index.html

Lincoln Project asks its subscribers to harass Trump lawyers and their clients, causing the lawyers to drop the suits

https://www.rnla.org/attacks_on_lawyers_representing_president_trump_are_reprehensible

Tim Pool talks about this too. 

https://youtu.be/HbQi1WNfp0k
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 16, 2020, 08:56:39 AM
Lincoln Project asks its subscribers to harass Trump lawyers and their clients, causing the lawyers to drop the suits

https://www.rnla.org/attacks_on_lawyers_representing_president_trump_are_reprehensible

Tim Pool talks about this too. 

https://youtu.be/HbQi1WNfp0k

Interesting, Might be a mixture of no real evidence and harassment,  I know there was articles showing some lawyers dropping cases to not lose their license.  I think its revolting to see the far left do this.   They should stop at let the courts speak. 

I was looking into the cases were trump had signed affidavits the one with "200+" .  And it appears most didn't actually allege any wrong doing and were complaining about random legal things.  Like if they wore some stupid shirt.

I have been trying to have an open mind, but I have not seen any verifiable evidence nor has a court case progressed on any evidence of voter fraud.   Lets not turn this into a witch-hunt and be hypocrites like the left and the 2016 mess.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 16, 2020, 09:04:58 AM
Yes, that's certainly possible.

Lincoln Project even got locked out of their twitter account for doing the harassment.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/lincoln-project-locked-out-of-twitter-account-for-targeting-trumps-election-fraud-attorneys
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 16, 2020, 09:31:14 AM
Lincoln Project asks its subscribers to harass Trump lawyers and their clients, causing the lawyers to drop the suits

https://www.rnla.org/attacks_on_lawyers_representing_president_trump_are_reprehensible

Tim Pool talks about this too. 

https://youtu.be/HbQi1WNfp0k
That is reprehensible that they would harass voters and force them to drop their lawsuits. What do they have to hide? If the lawsuits had no merit of any sort no one would waste their energy trying to force the lawsuits to be dropped. Thank you again for providing videos that are well thought out and provide real proof of fraud.

As I am sure you remember I described in an earlier post there are 2 different types of lawsuits that have now been brought by the Trump team and the GOP. The first type of lawsuit brought by the Trump team were designed to slow or stop illegal counting and to force the states to follow their own laws in counting ballots. Most of those lawsuits have either been thrown out, ruled against or the lawsuits have been withdrawn. These lawsuits are not alleging fraud rather they are just trying to make the states run a fair election. However, in the states where willful violation of voting laws have been alleged the Trump team has won.

The second type of lawsuit have been filed by both the Trump team and the GOP are the actual lawsuits that allege election and voter fraud. And these lawsuits are the ones with actual real evidence of fraud and none of these have been ruled against nor have they been withdrawn. Also the first of the fraud lawsuits were just filed on Friday the 13th and Saturday the 14th. These real fraud lawsuits with real evidence as provided and verified by this and your previous videos have not been withdrawn so don’t be mislead by anyone saying they have. They have not. As a matter of fact I expect many more to be filed shortly.

Thanks again for posting these.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 16, 2020, 09:40:50 AM
I see the "Release the Kraken" and other types of stuff that have been posted by many I follow or am friends with on social media.  Do I believe all of that?  Not all, but I don't need the self appointed (or self anointed) thought police, who BTW is against thought policing otherwise. 

Anyways, I think many of us have experience and common sense enough to discern differences.  Don't need a damn parrot warning of conspiracy theories and other.  However, to say that there's NO evidence of fraud or wrongdoing, just because it hasn't been "proven in the court of law" is just plain naive. 

If nothing other than principle of who has the authority to adjust election procedures.  It happened and has been documented. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 16, 2020, 11:26:50 AM
I felt like being Captain Obvious for a minute ...

Even though this thread is a LIST of ELECTION FRAUD EVIDENCE, there is still JUST ONE MEMBER here who continues to argue against every report of evidence as if this is a discussion.  He posts the same rhetorical BS talking points I hear from CNN and the rest of the Lame Stream Media -- including FOX.

The swing states with "irregularities" and blatant example of ignoring the law and Constitution are FAIR GAME.  Arguing against Trump and his legal team's legal arguments is NOT what this thread is for, lest it devolve into another Merry-Go-Round of repetitive bickering.

If you want to argue over the merits of a specific post, START A SEPARATE THREAD.  Each state, and probably each accusation of fraud, criminal behavior and'/or vote "glitches" is a complete discussion on its own.

Stop trying to bury the FACTS with argumentative talking points. 

BTW, just because a law suit is dropped or dismissed does not in any way dismiss the opinion (based on actual evidence) the majority of us here have that the election as a whole was not fair, honest and/or transparent.  With all the lawsuits Trump and others won already concerning blocking GOP poll and counting room watchers, there's no argument the officials in certain states and cities were up to something.

In a courtroom, when someone disposes of evidence, it's reasonable to assume the evidence was not favorable to the "suspect".  The fact that windows were covered, machines were moved, GOP observers were barred or corralled in "media rooms"  where seeing the activities of counting was impossible, and envelopes with signatures, postmarks, etc. were segregated from ballots and destroyed, it's reasonable to assume there was something going on they didn't want people to see and report.  Some of those activities have already been called out by state and federal authorities, and changes were made to allow access -- AFTER THE DAMAGE WAS ALREADY DONE.  So, you can't say there's no evidence of these things when changes were ordered as a result of the reports.  You don't make changes if you were already performing your work with the transparency required by law.

Remember the ACB nomination?  The Democrats objected, not on her qualifications, but on PROCEDURAL (process) arguments, saying this and that meant the nomination and confirmation was not supposed to be before the election.  Well, procedures and process are exactly what the Trump legal team is focusing in on.  They don't have to prove fraud, nor prove fraud was sufficient the undo the results.  They merely have to show that the overall corrupt and improper processes employed by a few states deprived THE PEOPLE of a Constitutionally described and state-law-mandated election.  If the results are contested by Trump up until the date of the electoral college gathering, the election should be deemed "contested".  In that case, the electoral college is null and void in 2020, and the outcome will be decided by the House and Senate, as per the Constitution.

Even IF all the law suits fail and are 100% decided on by the courts, Trump can still contest the results as long as he wants.  As long as he never concedes, the electoral college's vote may never happen.

Many people wondered why Hillary said just before election day, "Joe Biden should not concede the election UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES."  She's a crafty lawyer who is still angry and shocked at losing.  She's had 4 years to stew and come up with "coulda, woulda, shoulda" scenarios.  I'm sure she now thinks she conceded too quickly which destroyed any chances of challenging the outcome.  For her, the Congress wasn't favorable for her to get the votes in the House, so that's eating at her, I'm sure (always someone else's fault!).  But for Biden, he had the CHANCE that the House would pick up more seats (thus states) to carry a House-decided election.  Now that the House Dems lost seats instead, that strategy is gone.  All Joe can do now is try to get the state's results to be certified while he's still unofficially ahead.  But after the recounts, who knows where he'll be?

This is getting to be more complicated than an NBA Finals bracket sheet.

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 16, 2020, 01:36:54 PM
I felt like being Captain Obvious for a minute ...

Even though this thread is a LIST of ELECTION FRAUD EVIDENCE, there is still JUST ONE MEMBER here who continues to argue against every report of evidence as if this is a discussion.  He posts the same rhetorical BS talking points I hear from CNN and the rest of the Lame Stream Media -- including FOX.

The swing states with "irregularities" and blatant example of ignoring the law and Constitution are FAIR GAME.  Arguing against Trump and his legal team's legal arguments is NOT what this thread is for, lest it devolve into another Merry-Go-Round of repetitive bickering.

If you want to argue over the merits of a specific post, START A SEPARATE THREAD.  Each state, and probably each accusation of fraud, criminal behavior and'/or vote "glitches" is a complete discussion on its own.

Stop trying to bury the FACTS with argumentative talking points. 

BTW, just because a law suit is dropped or dismissed does not in any way dismiss the opinion (based on actual evidence) the majority of us here have that the election as a whole was not fair, honest and/or transparent.  With all the lawsuits Trump and others won already concerning blocking GOP poll and counting room watchers, there's no argument the officials in certain states and cities were up to something.

In a courtroom, when someone disposes of evidence, it's reasonable to assume the evidence was not favorable to the "suspect".  The fact that windows were covered, machines were moved, GOP observers were barred or corralled in "media rooms"  where seeing the activities of counting was impossible, and envelopes with signatures, postmarks, etc. were segregated from ballots and destroyed, it's reasonable to assume there was something going on they didn't want people to see and report.  Some of those activities have already been called out by state and federal authorities, and changes were made to allow access -- AFTER THE DAMAGE WAS ALREADY DONE.  So, you can't say there's no evidence of these things when changes were ordered as a result of the reports.  You don't make changes if you were already performing your work with the transparency required by law.

Remember the ACB nomination?  The Democrats objected, not on her qualifications, but on PROCEDURAL (process) arguments, saying this and that meant the nomination and confirmation was not supposed to be before the election.  Well, procedures and process are exactly what the Trump legal team is focusing in on.  They don't have to prove fraud, nor prove fraud was sufficient the undo the results.  They merely have to show that the overall corrupt and improper processes employed by a few states deprived THE PEOPLE of a Constitutionally described and state-law-mandated election.  If the results are contested by Trump up until the date of the electoral college gathering, the election should be deemed "contested".  In that case, the electoral college is null and void in 2020, and the outcome will be decided by the House and Senate, as per the Constitution.

Even IF all the law suits fail and are 100% decided on by the courts, Trump can still contest the results as long as he wants.  As long as he never concedes, the electoral college's vote may never happen.

Many people wondered why Hillary said just before election day, "Joe Biden should not concede the election UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES."  She's a crafty lawyer who is still angry and shocked at losing.  She's had 4 years to stew and come up with "coulda, woulda, shoulda" scenarios.  I'm sure she now thinks she conceded too quickly which destroyed any chances of challenging the outcome.  For her, the Congress wasn't favorable for her to get the votes in the House, so that's eating at her, I'm sure (always someone else's fault!).  But for Biden, he had the CHANCE that the House would pick up more seats (thus states) to carry a House-decided election.  Now that the House Dems lost seats instead, that strategy is gone.  All Joe can do now is try to get the state's results to be certified while he's still unofficially ahead.  But after the recounts, who knows where he'll be?

This is getting to be more complicated than an NBA Finals bracket sheet.

You know evidence against your evidence is still evidence?  Right?

"Even IF all the law suits fail and are 100% decided on by the courts, Trump can still contest the results as long as he wants.  As long as he never concedes, the electoral college's vote may never happen."
So you want a dictatorship?  Interesting way of thinking.   You are saying if the courts look at everything find there is no fraud, Trump should take over America regardless? 


Everything you said all those rumors, can be taken as evidence to court,  but so far the courts have decided that's not enough.  Just face the facts you want Trump to win regardless just like the democrats wanted Hillary.  This is the new republican witchhunt.

If Georgia will all the new transparency,  hand counts and everything goes for biden, we will know if there is even a hint of fraud.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 16, 2020, 02:02:43 PM
You know evidence against your evidence is still evidence?  Right?

If your "evidence against my evidence" is NOT "ELECTION FRAUD EVIDENCE", then it's OFF TOPIC.  Why is that too difficult for you to comprehend?

"Even IF all the law suits fail and are 100% decided on by the courts, Trump can still contest the results as long as he wants.  As long as he never concedes, the electoral college's vote may never happen."
So you want a dictatorship?  Interesting way of thinking.   You are saying if the courts look at everything find there is no fraud, Trump should take over America regardless?

My goodness, your ignorance is actually GROWING.  That usually works in reverse as facts are presented.  How is following the remedies detailed in the Constitution a "dictatorship?"  You really have swallowed the full MSM load, haven't you?  Trump is a dictator.  Now we just have to wait for proof!   :wacko:


Everything you said all those rumors, can be taken as evidence to court,  but so far the courts have decided that's not enough.  Just face the facts you want Trump to win regardless just like the democrats wanted Hillary.  This is the new republican witchhunt.

This is not a witch hunt.  Trump is not targeting Biden or anyone else specifically in the law suits.  He's targeting the PROCESS.  Read the words, and stop regurgitating MSM talking points.  "Just face the facts?"  LOL!  Biden is a corrupt authoritarian who sold out the country to foreign governments.  Maybe you should be more concerned if Trump loses, because Biden is not going to be better.  We already know what his administration will do, even if he lies and says he will AND won't do them.

If Georgia will all the new transparency,  hand counts and everything goes for biden, we will know if there is even a hint of fraud.

Again, you're falling for the "fraud" trap.  It's not about fraud.  It's about process and legality of the election itself.

 :stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 16, 2020, 02:30:23 PM
Project Veritas: GA Recount Auditors Call Multiple Ballots For Joe Biden That Were Actually Marked For Donald Trump

 :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

https://youtu.be/Q1QEbDUpg1U
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 16, 2020, 02:38:01 PM
Project Veritas: GA Recount Auditors Call Multiple Ballots For Joe Biden That Were Actually Marked For Donald Trump

 :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:


Like I said already, how can we trust the same state employees we know aren't following the law and rules to do an honest & accurate recount / audit?

It's like we need to send Georgia's ballots to Texas for a recount.  Kind of like passing your test to the student on your right for grading.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 16, 2020, 02:52:29 PM
I felt like being Captain Obvious for a minute ...

Even though this thread is a LIST of ELECTION FRAUD EVIDENCE, there is still JUST ONE MEMBER here who continues to argue against every report of evidence as if this is a discussion.  He posts the same rhetorical BS talking points I hear from CNN and the rest of the Lame Stream Media -- including FOX.

The swing states with "irregularities" and blatant example of ignoring the law and Constitution are FAIR GAME.  Arguing against Trump and his legal team's legal arguments is NOT what this thread is for, lest it devolve into another Merry-Go-Round of repetitive bickering.

If you want to argue over the merits of a specific post, START A SEPARATE THREAD.  Each state, and probably each accusation of fraud, criminal behavior and'/or vote "glitches" is a complete discussion on its own.

Stop trying to bury the FACTS with argumentative talking points. 

BTW, just because a law suit is dropped or dismissed does not in any way dismiss the opinion (based on actual evidence) the majority of us here have that the election as a whole was not fair, honest and/or transparent.  With all the lawsuits Trump and others won already concerning blocking GOP poll and counting room watchers, there's no argument the officials in certain states and cities were up to something.

In a courtroom, when someone disposes of evidence, it's reasonable to assume the evidence was not favorable to the "suspect".  The fact that windows were covered, machines were moved, GOP observers were barred or corralled in "media rooms"  where seeing the activities of counting was impossible, and envelopes with signatures, postmarks, etc. were segregated from ballots and destroyed, it's reasonable to assume there was something going on they didn't want people to see and report.  Some of those activities have already been called out by state and federal authorities, and changes were made to allow access -- AFTER THE DAMAGE WAS ALREADY DONE.  So, you can't say there's no evidence of these things when changes were ordered as a result of the reports.  You don't make changes if you were already performing your work with the transparency required by law.

Remember the ACB nomination?  The Democrats objected, not on her qualifications, but on PROCEDURAL (process) arguments, saying this and that meant the nomination and confirmation was not supposed to be before the election.  Well, procedures and process are exactly what the Trump legal team is focusing in on.  They don't have to prove fraud, nor prove fraud was sufficient the undo the results.  They merely have to show that the overall corrupt and improper processes employed by a few states deprived THE PEOPLE of a Constitutionally described and state-law-mandated election.  If the results are contested by Trump up until the date of the electoral college gathering, the election should be deemed "contested".  In that case, the electoral college is null and void in 2020, and the outcome will be decided by the House and Senate, as per the Constitution.

Even IF all the law suits fail and are 100% decided on by the courts, Trump can still contest the results as long as he wants.  As long as he never concedes, the electoral college's vote may never happen.

Many people wondered why Hillary said just before election day, "Joe Biden should not concede the election UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES."  She's a crafty lawyer who is still angry and shocked at losing.  She's had 4 years to stew and come up with "coulda, woulda, shoulda" scenarios.  I'm sure she now thinks she conceded too quickly which destroyed any chances of challenging the outcome.  For her, the Congress wasn't favorable for her to get the votes in the House, so that's eating at her, I'm sure (always someone else's fault!).  But for Biden, he had the CHANCE that the House would pick up more seats (thus states) to carry a House-decided election.  Now that the House Dems lost seats instead, that strategy is gone.  All Joe can do now is try to get the state's results to be certified while he's still unofficially ahead.  But after the recounts, who knows where he'll be?

This is getting to be more complicated than an NBA Finals bracket sheet.
Flapp,

I posted evidence that this pissant can’t refute. And he just ignores it like it doesn’t exist. Then JL posts 2 or 3 excellent videos that have computer geek irrefutable evidence of votes being taken away from Trump and added to Biden. Actual Dominion Voting Machine logs that absolutely show it. And he ignores it like it doesn’t exist. Because he can’t refute it except to say a court ruled against it which we all know (except the pissant) that it’s not true because they just filed the fraud lawsuits Friday and Saturday. He said the courts have decided but he is lying again because the fraud alleging lawsuits were just filed and the courts have not even seen the fraud evidence yet. What a moron.  :rofl:

He is such an idiot he doesn’t realize that Trump and the GOP never filed lawsuits alleging fraud until Friday and Saturday. He listens to the media which is lying to him so he passes those lies to you and the rest of us. I’m done trying to talk to him. He just parrots lying media talking points and he is not offering anything that backs up what he says. After all these months, do you think it is still worth dealing with this pissant?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 16, 2020, 02:57:38 PM
Flapp,

I posted evidence that this pissant can’t refute. And he just ignores it like it doesn’t exist. Then JL posts 2 or 3 excellent videos that have computer geek irrefutable evidence of votes being taken away from Trump and added to Biden. Actual Dominion Voting Machine logs that absolutely show it. And he ignores it like it doesn’t exist. Because he can’t refute it except to say a court ruled against it which we all know (except the pissant) that it’s not true because they just filed the fraud lawsuits Friday and Saturday. He said the courts have decided but he is lying again because the fraud alleging lawsuits were just filed and the courts have not even seen the fraud evidence yet. What a moron.  :rofl:

He is such an idiot he doesn’t realize that Trump and the GOP never filed lawsuits alleging fraud until Friday and Saturday. He listens to the media which is lying to him so he passes those lies to you and the rest of us. I’m done trying to talk to him. He just parrots lying media talking points and he is not offering anything that backs up what he says. After all these months, do you think it is still worth dealing with this pissant?
It's his defense mechanism.  Probably has been that way a long time.  Only "hears" feedback that he agrees with and immediately discounts anything that counters his views. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 16, 2020, 03:07:52 PM
It's his defense mechanism.  Probably has been that way a long time.  Only "hears" feedback that he agrees with and immediately discounts anything that counters his views.
Yeah, he gets all butt hurt cuz he can’t stand the truth. Just shows how immature he still is.

Did you watch the videos JL posted? Awesome reporting and evidence that should get some results. Assuming the courts look at it in time.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 16, 2020, 03:12:37 PM
Project Veritas: GA Recount Auditors Call Multiple Ballots For Joe Biden That Were Actually Marked For Donald Trump

 :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

https://youtu.be/Q1QEbDUpg1U
More eyewitness accounts. If they are willing to swear it in an affidavit then it is evidence and should be filed in a lawsuit. Project Veritas does good work so far. I want to see more.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 16, 2020, 03:40:25 PM
Flapp,

I posted evidence that this pissant can’t refute. And he just ignores it like it doesn’t exist. Then JL posts 2 or 3 excellent videos that have computer geek irrefutable evidence of votes being taken away from Trump and added to Biden. Actual Dominion Voting Machine logs that absolutely show it. And he ignores it like it doesn’t exist. Because he can’t refute it except to say a court ruled against it which we all know (except the pissant) that it’s not true because they just filed the fraud lawsuits Friday and Saturday. He said the courts have decided but he is lying again because the fraud alleging lawsuits were just filed and the courts have not even seen the fraud evidence yet. What a moron.  :rofl:

He is such an idiot he doesn’t realize that Trump and the GOP never filed lawsuits alleging fraud until Friday and Saturday. He listens to the media which is lying to him so he passes those lies to you and the rest of us. I’m done trying to talk to him. He just parrots lying media talking points and he is not offering anything that backs up what he says. After all these months, do you think it is still worth dealing with this pissant?

My goal is to stop him from hijacking every single thread on this forum as if this site exists solely for his entertainment.

As a side goal, I hope he eventually realizes that "preaching your beliefs" in thread after thread is not what most people want to see.  We already know what he thinks due to the repetitious redundancy of his posts.  Regurgitating that same info ad nauseam is not going to add to the conversations.

There's a reason Kuleana makes people roll their eyes when he starts to preach.  Same thing now with OMiGod.

If I can save just one 20+-year-old child ....   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 16, 2020, 03:46:45 PM
This video is lengthy, but it's just chock full of great info. (Choke da kine)   :geekdanc: :thumbsup:

Lots of EVIDENCE of how the Dominion Software was designed to steal elections, and that we knew this -- even Democrats -- long before this election.  The fact that people have demonstrated how easy things in the system are vulnerable to low-tech hacks (QR Codes) is evidence of how NOT SECURE this election has been.

Crowder says they're doing "Fraud Week" on the show this week.  Each day after today will focus on the variety of fraud and irregularities in the different states under scrutiny now.  He also explains how the lawsuits being filed and dismissed now are placeholders to buy time so the real cases against the software, the election officials, and the unconstitutional behaviors combine to create an overwhelming atmosphere of questions that the integrity of the election can't possibly support a decision to certify the entire nation's results.

https://youtu.be/QJgMoQaHhPY
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 16, 2020, 04:18:23 PM
Yeah, he gets all butt hurt cuz he can’t stand the truth. Just shows how immature he still is.

Did you watch the videos JL posted? Awesome reporting and evidence that should get some results. Assuming the courts look at it in time.

I've been trying to avoid replying to you.  You are hostile.  And get angry every time I respond to you.   As to your dominion "evidence" trumps own national security org disproved that but you don't belive that so why even bother.  Along with many others disproving that.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 16, 2020, 04:21:29 PM
It's his defense mechanism.  Probably has been that way a long time.  Only "hears" feedback that he agrees with and immediately discounts anything that counters his views.

Pot calling kettle black

I don't have enough time to disprove everything.   I show what I know.   We can go back and forth forever.  So that's why I suggested courts which should not be bias decide. 
Title: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 16, 2020, 04:26:44 PM
Ok guys, let’s get back on topic. Thank you.

No need to call each other out every time.

I’m going to start another topic about what you guys are arguing about.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 16, 2020, 04:32:41 PM
I've been trying to avoid replying to you.  You are hostile.  And get angry every time I respond to you.   As to your dominion "evidence" trumps own national security org disproved that but you don't belive that so why even bother.  Along with many others disproving that.

How can they disprove something they haven't investigated?  If they did investigate, where are the details?

You really have nothing but talking points. 

When was the last time you actually put in a full day's work for a full day's pay?  Instead of posting comments when walking to/from your cubicle, maybe you should be using that time for work-related activities, since, you know, you are charging them (us?) for that time, too?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 16, 2020, 04:41:15 PM
I've been trying to avoid replying to you.  You are hostile.  And get angry every time I respond to you.   As to your dominion "evidence" trumps own national security org disproved that but you don't belive that so why even bother.  Along with many others disproving that.
well you didn’t try very hard did you? Do us both a favor and don’t engage with me ever again.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 16, 2020, 05:10:34 PM
Important point is do we have a fair and honest election? Bottom line, if we don't then we got a very big problem. Goes to the heart of our country.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 16, 2020, 05:37:14 PM
Important point is do we have a fair and honest election? Bottom line, if we don't then we got a very big problem. Goes to the heart of our country.

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I think fair and honest incorporates transparency, not having one party's political hacks count the votes while blocking the other party's legally mandated right to observe.

But, maybe that's just me.   >:D
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 16, 2020, 05:44:13 PM
I think fair and honest incorporates transparency, not having one party's political hacks count the votes while blocking the other party's legally mandated right to observe.

But, maybe that's just me.   >:D
Well, there is court filings and affidavits filed. We're just gonna have to wait for the process to play out. As far as I know, it's over when candidate concedes or results get certified.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on November 16, 2020, 05:50:31 PM
Pissant. Lol
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 16, 2020, 05:57:01 PM
How can they disprove something they haven't investigated?  If they did investigate, where are the details?

You really have nothing but talking points. 

When was the last time you actually put in a full day's work for a full day's pay?  Instead of posting comments when walking to/from your cubicle, maybe you should be using that time for work-related activities, since, you know, you are charging them (us?) for that time, too?

I've posted this before for you and inspector. 

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election

https://www.cisa.gov/rumorcontrol


Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 16, 2020, 06:03:47 PM
Well, there is court filings and affidavits filed. We're just gonna have to wait for the process to play out. As far as I know, it's over when candidate concedes or results get certified.

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That’s what I was saying, or at least getting at. To follow the evidence and then see where things fall. I was just saying that there appear to be credible evidence. I wasn’t saying it was true. But to follow procedure and investigate reports. Where it appears to be credible continue.

I wasn’t saying things are. Was just pointing out doubt. Been trying to pull up the list of approx 200k of indictments filed. Will try to post later if I can find it.

My opinion was that there’s investigations on-going. Dunno where one individual was saying otherwise.

And agreed on the certification. Enough with the “calling” or President elect. Just wait until the process per the Constitution has had a chance to play out.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 16, 2020, 06:13:24 PM
That’s what I was saying, or at least getting at. To follow the evidence and then see where things fall. I was just saying that there appear to be credible evidence. I wasn’t saying it was true. But to follow procedure and investigate reports. Where it appears to be credible continue.

I wasn’t saying things are. Was just pointing out doubt. Been trying to pull up the list of approx 200k of indictments filed. Will try to post later if I can find it.

My opinion was that there’s investigations on-going. Dunno where one individual was saying otherwise.

And agreed on the certification. Enough with the “calling” or President elect. Just wait until the process per the Constitution has had a chance to play out.
Amen!

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 16, 2020, 06:18:41 PM
That’s what I was saying, or at least getting at. To follow the evidence and then see where things fall. I was just saying that there appear to be credible evidence. I wasn’t saying it was true. But to follow procedure and investigate reports. Where it appears to be credible continue.

I wasn’t saying things are. Was just pointing out doubt. Been trying to pull up the list of approx 200k of indictments filed. Will try to post later if I can find it.

My opinion was that there’s investigations on-going. Dunno where one individual was saying otherwise.

And agreed on the certification. Enough with the “calling” or President elect. Just wait until the process per the Constitution has had a chance to play out.
Sometimes you got to keep it simple

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 16, 2020, 06:43:11 PM
Biden is not the president elect.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 16, 2020, 07:09:03 PM
Well, there is court filings and affidavits filed. We're just gonna have to wait for the process to play out. As far as I know, it's over when candidate concedes or results get certified.

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Actually, conceding has no legal or binding implications.  Look at 2000.  Gore actually called Bush and conceded.  He even planned his concession speech.

When he heard that the margin in FL had dropped to like 800 votes, he withdrew his concession, and the Democrat lawyers were on the ground in FL the next morning to start contesting the results.  Once the unofficial vote count was in his favor, Gore was named President Elect by the media for about 37 days.  It went all the way up to the Supreme Court.  The day before the deadline for FL to certify the election results, the Court agreed that the recounts in Dem counties alone violated the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.  The state had to either stop all recounts and waste the entire effort expended over the past month, or recount the state entirely -- an impossibility given the deadline to certify.

Bush became President Elect  again the next day, once FL certified the election in his favor.

Having said that, a concession usually carries with it an agreement to not contest the results.  A contested election is one situation the framers of the Constitution foresaw and for which they included a remedy.

(https://i.imgur.com/C6vhNBF.gif)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 16, 2020, 07:20:01 PM
I think fair and honest incorporates transparency, not having one party's political hacks count the votes while blocking the other party's legally mandated right to observe.

But, maybe that's just me.   >:D

apparently, omnigrub's idea of "freedom" is limited...
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 16, 2020, 07:27:34 PM
Biden is not the president elect.
That's simple enough

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 16, 2020, 07:28:13 PM
Actually, conceding has no legal or binding implications.  Look at 2000.  Gore actually called Bush and conceded.  He even planned his concession speech.

When he heard that the margin in FL had dropped to like 800 votes, he withdrew his concession, and the Democrat lawyers were on the ground in FL the next morning to start contesting the results.  Once the unofficial vote count was in his favor, Gore was named President Elect by the media for about 37 days.  It went all the way up to the Supreme Court.  The day before the deadline for FL to certify the election results, the Court agreed that the recounts in Dem counties alone violated the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.  The state had to either stop all recounts and waste the entire effort expended over the past month, or recount the state entirely -- an impossibility given the deadline to certify.

Bush became President Elect  again the next day, once FL certified the election in his favor.

Having said that, a concession usually carries with it an agreement to not contest the results.  A contested election is one situation the framers of the Constitution foresaw and for which they included a remedy.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 16, 2020, 09:01:30 PM
Attorney Lin Wood Outlines Case for Rampant Voter Fraud, GA Vote Corruption; GA Election will Be Nullified.

Interview on the John Fredericks radio show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2OHdRUM9Gc

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 17, 2020, 12:20:56 AM
I've posted this before for you and inspector. 

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election

https://www.cisa.gov/rumorcontrol

OMG!  The gov't said the gov't election systems built for and sold to not just the US, but worldwide, created by overseas companies is secure! 

That's good enough for me!  Whew!  I can sleep now!!  :sleeping:

Here's a little story.  I'll try to keep it short-ish and nontechnical.

I was a contractor at Pacific Fleet headquarters.  One system I created was a chat server using open source and off the shelf software.  It was a replacement for software our Naval Research and Development program office delivered Navy-wide before the Iraq war.  There was an urgent need to create a TESTED version that can handle over 500 users.  The current version had a compiled limit of 100 -- the original code's default.

My version was able to handle over 1,000 connections, which I tested using BOT connections.  The R&D folks sent me their upgraded version to test, with I did (they couldn't figure out how I was able to get 1,000 actual users to test it!  :rofl:).  Their new version was identical to the old one with that one limit changed.  I tried to explain that the IRC server they are delivering won't satisfy their needs, but the response was, "This change is the only official change request we've been given."  I found out that the week after an installation team traveled to the Gulf and installed the new version, that site reverted to the Linux server they'd built, abandoning a version I'm sure cost over $40K to create, test, buy hardware for, send people out to install, and document. 

The "Cadillac" of IRC servers I created included 4 individual chat servers (HPUX 3600 computers) behind 2 Pentium PCs with multiple network cards running Linux and acting as a load balancing gateway with redundant failover (one PC has problems, the other picks up in its place).  The gateway allowed a single IP address to be used by every user's IRC client application, which then picked the server with the lowest number of users to connect to.  The 4 servers were configured as a chat network, so regardless of which one you were connected to, you could chat with all the users on all servers. I also added a backup server in Wahiawa.

I won't get into the details, but we were the talk of the Pacific Fleets.  Every time there was an exercise where specialized, well-trained Cyber Defense teams tried to infiltrate our command, control, communications and intel systems, the chat system was never breached.  However, 3 times the program office sent a "replacement" server to test along side our chat system.  Operations would begin on the new system, and mine would only become active if/when the new one was compromised. 

That plan lasted about an hour at the beginning of each exercise.  The commercially developed, professionally evaluated, top of the line, state of the art chat servers were compromised to a point the "enemy" could inject misinformation, gather information on operations and plans, and even bring down the system if they wished.  Once that was apparent, they switched to my home-grown, self-compiled and integrated, fully controlled by BOTS and chat services IRC system.

So, when the gov't says that a system is secure, I have to roll my eyes and wonder what vendors are getting paid, and who has a job lined up with that vendor in a few months after retirement.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 17, 2020, 02:45:38 AM
Attorney Lin Wood Outlines Case for Rampant Voter Fraud, GA Vote Corruption; GA Election will Be Nullified.

Interview on the John Fredericks radio show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2OHdRUM9Gc
Interesting video, thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 17, 2020, 02:50:57 AM
Watching Maria this morning and GA reported it missed counting 2600 votes. The county heavily voted for Trump. And after the votes were counted Trump gained 800 votes out of that 2600. Apparently it was a memory card/stick that was never inserted into the vote counting machine. No one knows if it was an accident or if someone looked over the votes and saw a mass amount of votes for Trump over Biden and purposely didn’t count them.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 17, 2020, 03:02:18 AM
Seems that the Dominion voter software was not recertified as it is supposed to be every time it is updated. And the machines in the US elections were updated and not recertified. This coming from Dominions VP and in charge of strategy and security at Dominion. When the software is updated and not recertified it makes the election machines manipulable. There is no one in this world more qualified to make this statement than this guy is. 

https://thebl.com/us-news/electoral-fraud-dominions-vice-president-warned-in-2016-that-vote-counting-systems-are-manipulable.html

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 17, 2020, 08:52:33 AM
From Raheem Kassam's National Pulse:

New Stats Analysis Reveals Potential ‘Stuffing The Tail’ Voter Fraud Scheme Similar To 2008 Sub-Prime Mortgage Meltdown

https://thenationalpulse.com/news/stats-reveal-stuffing-the-tail-scheme-similar-to-sub-prime-scheme/ (https://thenationalpulse.com/news/stats-reveal-stuffing-the-tail-scheme-similar-to-sub-prime-scheme/)

Excerpts:

NEW ANALYSIS OF PENNSYLVANIA ELECTION DATA BUTTRESSES THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN’S ASSERTIONS THAT A HOST OF VOTING IRREGULARITIES AND POTENTIAL FRAUD CONTRIBUTED TO A VICTORY IN THE CRITICAL SWING STATE FOR JOE BIDEN.

A new report seen by The National Pulse begins: “This scientific analysis of the reported Pennsylvania (PA) 2020 Presidential voting results, is a non-partisan effort by unpaid citizens and volunteer experts. Our only objective is to play a small roll in helping assure that all legal PA votes are counted, and that only legal PA votes are counted.”

The report summarizes:

There are some major statistical aberrations in the PA voting records, that are extremely unlikely to occur in a normal (i.e. un-manipulated) setting.
The anomalies almost exclusively happened with the Biden votes. Time and again, using a variety of techniques, the Trump votes looked statistically normal.
Eleven (out of 67) Pennsylvania counties stood out from all the rest. These counties showed distinctive signs of voting abnormalities — again, all for Biden.
The total number of suspicious votes in these counties is 300,000± — which greatly exceeds the reported margin of Biden votes over Trump. (We don’t know how many of these are artificial Biden votes, or votes switched from Trump to Biden.)
These statistical analyses do not prove fraud, but rather provide scientific evidence that the reported results are highly unlikely to be an accurate reflection of how Pennsylvania citizens voted.

The report concludes: “These statistical analyses do not prove fraud, but rather provide scientific evidence that the reported results are highly unlikely to be an accurate reflection of how Pennsylvania citizens voted.”

****

The full 40 page report is embedded in the article as a Scribd document, and is available for download at: https://www.scribd.com/document/484579782/PA-2020-Voter-Analysis-Report#download&from_embed (https://www.scribd.com/document/484579782/PA-2020-Voter-Analysis-Report#download&from_embed)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 17, 2020, 08:54:35 AM
So Biden appoints 1 of the Dominion parent company to his cabinet (Smart something). Nothing to see here.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 17, 2020, 09:10:11 AM
Aggregator site for evidence. Most of what is there, especially from the past two days, has not been evaluated yet... there may be some spam in those unevaluated posts.

https://hereistheevidence.com

HERE IS THE EVIDENCE

Due to the irregularity of this current 2020 Presidential Election, this is a crowdsourcing tool for organizing anomalies and legal issues. Our desire is that more of the election process would be made transparent so there would be unquestionable confidence in our voting systems.

This is for aggregating publicly available items of evidence that would be admissible in court, not general election news stories or updates.

Submitted items may be edited or in some cases deleted by moderators to ensure quality of content.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 17, 2020, 10:04:22 AM
Here's more reports/evidence/suspicion. . .

https://www.laweekly.com/two-men-charged-for-fraudulently-submitting-voter-applications-for-homeless-people/
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 17, 2020, 11:53:54 AM
LMK when someone gets convicted of voter fraud and I win.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 17, 2020, 12:20:26 PM
LMK when someone gets convicted of voter fraud and I win.

Isn't Philadelphia in Pennsylvania?  Isn't Pennsylvania one of the most contested swing states this year?

Chicago, Philadelphia and Detroit have been on the list of the most corrupt places when it comes to government, including election tampering.  It's been a decades old problem.

Quote
A former Philadelphia election official has pleaded guilty to taking thousands
of dollars in bribes to stuff the ballot boxes for Democrats in local races
between 2014 and 2016.

Domenick J. DeMuro, 73, a former judge of elections in South Philadelphia,
pleaded guilty to conspiracy to deprive Philadelphia voters of their civil rights
when he padded the votes for the elected positions, U.S. Attorney William M.
McSwain announced Thursday.

“DeMuro fraudulently stuffed the ballot box by literally standing in a voting
booth and voting over and over, as fast as he could, while he thought the
coast was clear,” said U.S. Attorney McSwain in a statement.

“This is utterly reprehensible conduct. The charges announced today do not
erase what he did
, but they do ensure that he is held to account for those actions.”

DeMuro pocketed between $300 and $5,000 in bribes per election as he
oversaw the electoral process in his district, prosecutors said.

He rang up votes for three Democratic candidates for Common Pleas Court
judge in 2015; as well as for other Democratic candidates local, state and federal
offices in 2014 and 2016, the Philadephia Inquirer reported.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/21/ex-philly-election-official-pleads-guilty-to-voter-fraud/
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 17, 2020, 12:21:54 PM
Isn't Philadelphia in Pennsylvania?  Isn't Pennsylvania one of the most contested swing states this year?

Chicago, Philadelphia and Detroit have been on the list of the most corrupt places when it comes to government, including election tampering.  It's been a decades old problem.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/21/ex-philly-election-official-pleads-guilty-to-voter-fraud/

Would have to been for this election fraud.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 17, 2020, 12:28:58 PM
I think it has been established by all the evidence presented in this thread that election fraud and voter fraud has been committed. I think the only question now is, is there enough proven fraud to change election results in any of the battleground states that have not certified their elections yet?

The reason I ask is that proving fraud is pretty easy. Proving there was enough to change the results of an election is a huge uphill battle. And I’m not sure it can be done. I am hearing extremely conservative people on the radio now conceding that it looks too monumental to overcome the election results. Even Dennis Prager today was saying President Elect Biden won the election. Whether he won fair and square or won due to fraud is really the only question left to determine. Stewart Varney stopped talking about voter/election fraud yesterday altogether and started calling Biden President Elect this morning. Though Maria Bartiromo is still reporting on the fraud.

I am hearing rumblings that the recount in Georgia will likely not change the results even tho they found some fraudulent activity. Same goes for Arizona. So the only thing I can see that still has a chance of helping Trump is if the fraud cases in PA and MI and maybe WI that have been reported are truly on the scale that is being reported. If the lawyers can force the courts to decide the election or not have certified election results in one or two states then there is a possibility Trump can still win. But I hate to say this but it appears to be slipping further and further away as every day goes by.

What do the rest of you think?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 17, 2020, 12:47:18 PM
Would have to been for this election fraud.

There are cases being investigated, but you should know courts take more than 6 months to finish even the most straightforward cases.

There are cases of post office employees being charged with stealing, discarding or altering ballots in this election.  There won't be convictions for awhile.

Quote
Another employee for the U.S. Postal Service is facing federal charges
in the latest instance where mail-in ballots were discovered dumped in the trash
in Kentucky.

Similar cases have been seen in the key battleground state of Pennsylvania over
the past few weeks, as a record number of Americans are casting their ballots by
mail this year amid the coronavirus pandemic. Ballot drop boxes have also been
set ablaze in separate incidents in Boston and outside Los Angeles recently.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/usps-mail-in-ballots-postal-service-extra-trips-election-day


That's one of the problems with election tampering and voter fraud.  The timelines for the elections are so short, it's nearly impossible to convict anyone in court before the results are irreversibly made official.  Once the truth is discovered, the election still stands.  The fall guy is punished, but the candidates who benefited, and more importantly damaged, by the crimes can never be corrected.  I highlighted that in the last post.

If you NEED convictions for fraud in the 2020 election before believing it exists, then you shouldn't hold your breath.  Actual cases of that in the 2014 and 2016 elections are just now being sentenced in 2020. 

That's the reality.  Trump is smart to gather the evidence, then question the results, as is his right.  If the Supreme Court agrees that he's justified in contesting the results of the election, he's on a path to reelection. 

My big concern is, even if PA is not allowed to certify, he still needs get the electoral totals back to even or with him ahead. 

I don't know if PA failing to certify negates the entire electoral process.  I can see how campaigning in PA would zap resources that would have helped him win other states had he known PA was cheating.  Therefore, the entire election campaigning process was tainted by PA, thus the electoral college can't be viewed as fair.

Lots of ways to argue for voiding the entire election.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 17, 2020, 12:54:57 PM
We all need to get off the "voter fraud" train, and hop onto the "election tampering" express.

Voter fraud is usually an individual voting as someone they are not, voting when prohibited (not a resident of that state/district, a felon, ...), or voting more than once (registered in multiple states, used a maiden name and married name, etc). 

Election tampering could be anything that happens before, during and after the votes are cast.  Backdating ballots, miscounting votes, counting ballots more than once, ignoring procedures intended to protect the integrity of the election, breaking laws that allow observers.  It can also be suppressing the vote, harvesting ballots, destroying ballots from a particular party's leaning counties, "finding" tens of thousands of ballots without verifying where they came from or who cast them, and so on.

These people are tampering with the election.  So we need to stop calling it one thing when it's something different.  Otherwise, the Left will continue arguing the wrong issue, and we'll be talking about something different.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 17, 2020, 01:08:21 PM
There are cases being investigated, but you should know courts take more than 6 months to finish even the most straightforward cases.

There are cases of post office employees being charged with stealing, discarding or altering ballots in this election.  There won't be convictions for awhile.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/usps-mail-in-ballots-postal-service-extra-trips-election-day


That's one of the problems with election tampering and voter fraud.  The timelines for the elections are so short, it's nearly impossible to convict anyone in court before the results are irreversibly made official.  Once the truth is discovered, the election still stands.  The fall guy is punished, but the candidates who benefited, and more importantly damaged, by the crimes can never be corrected.  I highlighted that in the last post.

If you NEED convictions for fraud in the 2020 election before believing it exists, then you shouldn't hold your breath.  Actual cases of that in the 2014 and 2016 elections are just now being sentenced in 2020. 

That's the reality.  Trump is smart to gather the evidence, then question the results, as is his right.  If the Supreme Court agrees that he's justified in contesting the results of the election, he's on a path to reelection. 

My big concern is, even if PA is not allowed to certify, he still needs get the electoral totals back to even or with him ahead. 

I don't know if PA failing to certify negates the entire electoral process.  I can see how campaigning in PA would zap resources that would have helped him win other states had he known PA was cheating.  Therefore, the entire election campaigning process was tainted by PA, thus the electoral college can't be viewed as fair.

Lots of ways to argue for voiding the entire election.

This is nuts.....voiding the election?  Even if PA was somehow fraudulent.  Voiding an entire election because he spent some campaign time there is ludicrous.  Biden also spent time there.   You sound like the crazy liberals trying to void 2016 cause of Russia.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 17, 2020, 01:20:09 PM
This is nuts.....voiding the election?  Even if PA was somehow fraudulent.  Voiding an entire election because he spent some campaign time there is ludicrous.  Biden also spent time there.   You sound like the crazy liberals trying to void 2016 cause of Russia.

Did you look into Dominion and their parent company (Smart something)?  It's not just about PA.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 17, 2020, 01:20:35 PM
There are cases being investigated, but you should know courts take more than 6 months to finish even the most straightforward cases.

There are cases of post office employees being charged with stealing, discarding or altering ballots in this election.  There won't be convictions for awhile.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/usps-mail-in-ballots-postal-service-extra-trips-election-day


That's one of the problems with election tampering and voter fraud.  The timelines for the elections are so short, it's nearly impossible to convict anyone in court before the results are irreversibly made official.  Once the truth is discovered, the election still stands.  The fall guy is punished, but the candidates who benefited, and more importantly damaged, by the crimes can never be corrected.  I highlighted that in the last post.

If you NEED convictions for fraud in the 2020 election before believing it exists, then you shouldn't hold your breath.  Actual cases of that in the 2014 and 2016 elections are just now being sentenced in 2020. 

That's the reality.  Trump is smart to gather the evidence, then question the results, as is his right.  If the Supreme Court agrees that he's justified in contesting the results of the election, he's on a path to reelection. 

My big concern is, even if PA is not allowed to certify, he still needs get the electoral totals back to even or with him ahead. 

I don't know if PA failing to certify negates the entire electoral process.  I can see how campaigning in PA would zap resources that would have helped him win other states had he known PA was cheating.  Therefore, the entire election campaigning process was tainted by PA, thus the electoral college can't be viewed as fair.

Lots of ways to argue for voiding the entire election.

Coworker is giving me a till Jan 24th for someone to be convicted and I win.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 17, 2020, 01:27:08 PM
Coworker is giving me a till Jan 24th for someone to be convicted and I win.
Definition of somone?   ???

Anyone putting up odds for Pelosi?   ;D
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 17, 2020, 01:43:36 PM
This is nuts.....voiding the election?  Even if PA was somehow fraudulent.  Voiding an entire election because he spent some campaign time there is ludicrous.  Biden also spent time there.   You sound like the crazy liberals trying to void 2016 cause of Russia.

You're an ignorant pissant.  Prove me wrong.

What did I say, dumbass? 

"I don't know if PA failing to certify negates the entire electoral process."

The federal election is a process that involves all US states.  If the electoral college can't convene with all 50 states certifying the results, then the election AS A WHOLE can be contested, not just one state.  The right of a candidate is to contest the GENERAL ELECTION, not just an individual state's tampering.  I don't think the Constitution allows for disenfranchising an entire state from electing the president.  In case a state election fails to select their electors, either the state legislature can do that if the deadline hasn't passed, or the House can hold a vote of delegations.  In the wake of a contested election, that offers the best remedy, as all states will have been represented without the shadow of election tampering looming over the result.

Winning a case against PA doesn't give Trump a remedy in the EC, because the intentional election tampering changed the outcome of the entire election.  It's not just about their 20 electoral votes.  It's about a free, fair, open and honest process.  If the campaign was damaged in other states because PA wasted their time and money by rigging the election for Biden, how can any court possibly fix that after the fact?  The only way is to give Trump the election (Supreme Court can't do that) or hand it off to the Congress.  The Constitution allows for that under a CONTESTED ELECTION, which Trump has grounds for if/when PA is no longer able to certify the election results.

I have a strong feeling the Dominion software's lack of certification will bring many states into the election tampering ring.  If the software was updated, as we have been told, the day before (or even a week before) the election started, there was no certification as required. 

Software that requires certification must be tested AFTER IT IS UPDATED.  Any prior certifications are voided.  Of course, there needs to be an analysis of the exact changes to see if they affect certification at all, but again, there was no time for that.  There were also reports that some precincts didn't install updates.  That not only brings the software into question (what was the change?  Did it stop or worsen vote flipping?), it also goes against state laws that require all precincts in a state to adhere ti a uniform standard for voting -- that include using the same version of software.

So many questions have been raised, I really can't see how a piecemeal electoral college result can be fair or accurate.  Rather than rely on tainted states spoiling the whole election, let the House decide.  They can choose to follow their state's election results if they wish, or vote according to their conscience.  It's why they were elected to start with -- to represent the people of their state, not only the people controlling the counting rooms.

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Brystont1 on November 17, 2020, 01:54:41 PM
I think it has been established by all the evidence presented in this thread that election fraud and voter fraud has been committed. I think the only question now is, is there enough proven fraud to change election results in any of the battleground states that have not certified their elections yet?

The reason I ask is that proving fraud is pretty easy. Proving there was enough to change the results of an election is a huge uphill battle. And I’m not sure it can be done. I am hearing extremely conservative people on the radio now conceding that it looks too monumental to overcome the election results. Even Dennis Prager today was saying President Elect Biden won the election. Whether he won fair and square or won due to fraud is really the only question left to determine. Stewart Varney stopped talking about voter/election fraud yesterday altogether and started calling Biden President Elect this morning. Though Maria Bartiromo is still reporting on the fraud.

I am hearing rumblings that the recount in Georgia will likely not change the results even tho they found some fraudulent activity. Same goes for Arizona. So the only thing I can see that still has a chance of helping Trump is if the fraud cases in PA and MI and maybe WI that have been reported are truly on the scale that is being reported. If the lawyers can force the courts to decide the election or not have certified election results in one or two states then there is a possibility Trump can still win. But I hate to say this but it appears to be slipping further and further away as every day goes by.

What do the rest of you think?

I am basically in the same boat as you. I’ve been preparing myself for the fact that Biden will be our next president. It is what it is. We had our chance to really change a lot of things although I still believe Trump did an amazing job. He exposed a lot of shit in this country.

I believe the only way is if they can prove shady shit being done with the dominion voting systems. Electoral voters cannot in good faith cast their votes and it goes to the House of Representatives. What that would do to our country I’m not sure. But I am pretty sure that we conservatives are in for a rough fucken 4 years with Biden and Kamala.

If Biden does win I’ll probably walk away from politics for a while.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 17, 2020, 01:57:05 PM
Coworker is giving me a till Jan 24th for someone to be convicted and I win.

If this was a bet, you set yourself up to lose if you agreed to that date.

Conviction is never a guarantee even if the charges are true.  Too many times in a trial, a mistake sets a guilty person free, or they take a plea and the charges are adjudicated to probation with deferral of sentencing -- if you finish probation with no new complaints, the charges are dismissed, effectively no conviction and the record is expunged. 

Also, with the holidays and possible lockdowns looming, courts won't have time to get to nonviolent cases.

You might as well concede.   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: GlockNewb on November 17, 2020, 02:36:45 PM
*dons Joker mask* here...we...go...

https://patch.com/michigan/detroit/wayne-county-deadlocks-election-results-certification
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 17, 2020, 02:39:21 PM
Coworker is giving me a till Jan 24th for someone to be convicted and I win.
What year?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 17, 2020, 02:39:47 PM
Sidney Powell on Lou Dobbs today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-K62zQogLQ&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: QUIETShooter on November 17, 2020, 02:40:47 PM

What do the rest of you think?


I believe the only way is if they can prove shady shit being done with the dominion voting systems.

I think that if the dominion voting systems can be shown that it contained flaws in programming where the integrity and fairness of the voting process is questionable then the whole electoral process should be null and void.  I feel this is common sense and those disputing any kind of fraud or tampering should be more than willing to prove it to be so by testing and certifying the system before unbiased and scrutineering eyes.  Prove that once the system is in operation there is no chance of outside input or changes to procedure.  I'm not sure as to what extent that this has been addressed.

But as I mentioned earlier, I'm glad that President Trump is fighting till the end.  If anything positive comes out of this endeavor, it is to put doubt in the minds of the American people as to how fair, honest, and transparent our election process is. 

I hope that if it does comes down to a Biden/Harris administration, it is that their administration will be looked upon with skepticism instead of enthusiasm.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 17, 2020, 02:41:56 PM
*dons Joker mask* here...we...go...

https://patch.com/michigan/detroit/wayne-county-deadlocks-election-results-certification

LOL!  The party that's saying, "I smell politics!" referring to Republicans voting against certification, is the party that barred Republicans from observing the count.

Maybe that smell was already coming from them?   :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 17, 2020, 02:50:31 PM
I think that if the dominion voting systems can be shown that it contained flaws in programming where the integrity and fairness of the voting process is questionable then the whole electoral process should be null and void.  I feel this is common sense and those disputing any kind of fraud or tampering would be more than willing to prove it to be so by testing and certifying the system before unbiased and scrutineering eyes.  Prove that once the system is in operation there is no chance of outside input or changes to procedure.  I'm not sure as to what extent that this has been addressed.

But as I mentioned earlier, I'm glad that President Trump is fighting till the end.  If anything positive comes out of this endeavor, it is to put doubt in the minds of the American people as to how fair, honest, and transparent our election process is. 

I hope that if it does comes down to a Biden/Harris administration, it is that their administration will be looked upon with skepticism instead of enthusiasm.

Just like a Cop's training and his speed laser's certification and calibration, the voting software requires a specific version level and testing to be CERTIFIED for use in an election.  If that process was not adhered to, just like a traffic ticket being tossed by the judge, the election can be tossed by the Supreme Court.

The process has to be followed.  If it was not, then the integrity and fairness is in question. 

It's simple logic.  Why is the process what it is in the first place?  To ensure the election results can be trusted.

Once the results can no longer be trusted, the election itself can't be salvaged.  Too much water under the bridge -- ballots are not with the envelopes, signatures aren't being kept, dates were reportedly altered. etc.  You can't apply a bandaid.  The electoral college process has been corrupted by a software system and a few corrupt states/cities.

One bad apple  CAN  spoil the whole election.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 17, 2020, 03:21:59 PM
Parler quote from Kayleigh:

After presenting 234 pages of sworn affidavits raising allegations of fraud in Wayne County, Michigan voting, the Wayne County Board of Canvassers has DECLINED to certify their portion of the Michigan vote.

Joining @seanhannity with more at 9:00 pm ET!
https://parler.com/post/48194493ec754b7db3298b4d8790225a
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 17, 2020, 04:10:19 PM
Other than the typical "without evidence" BS qualifier, this is a pretty descent synopsis of the road ahead.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-contested-scenarios-expl-idUSKBN2781FS

I was saying before that there are lots of things that MIGHT happen, because the way the laws are written, and the fact that not all options have been tried in court, the "brackets" for "what happens if this, but not that" are many. 

OMiGod thinks I'm crazy for suggesting that the entire election could be tossed out over one or two states failing to certify the results.  After that, Congress would have to decide on the President and VP.  This article shows how crazy he is for thinking that won't be a potential outcome. 

The article backs me up, saying this has never been tried in the past, so the decision on whether we can simply exclude states and their electoral votes is untested -- basically acting as if a few states are disqualified and don't exist for electoral college purposes.  Would the 270 threshold remain, or is it recalculated as "half + 1" of the NEW TOTAL of electoral votes that are still being certified?  What if the excluded state EC vote total has an odd number of votes, causing a fractional majority?  Does the threshold round up to a whole vote requiring a majority + half, or is it enough the reach the rounded majority total but not have a whole vote to take the majority -- only half a vote above?

For example, let's say the new electoral total is 401 votes.  Half that would be 200-1/2.   Is 201 an actual majority (only half a vote above 200-1/2), or does the winner require a FULL VOTE above the minimum to win -- which means 202 is needed to win, or 200-1/2 + 1 = 201-1/2, or 202 votes required, since half votes don't exist.  The details can get pretty messy.

So many questions, so few answers.

What's obvious is OMiGod wants to call people crazy and "conspiracy theorists" for sharing information that HE believes is fake news or illogical.  We aren't making this shit up (unlike he seems to have a habit of doing).  We are just sharing it.  That's the exact kind of bullying and censorship that's happening on the Big Tech platforms right now.  Is he here to steer this forum in that same direction?

Yet, he whines that he's picked on for having a different opinion.  He can't see that him attacking ANYONE else over what they post is no different.

"Hypocrite" doesn't quite capture how he has been acting.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 17, 2020, 06:12:12 PM
Watching Maria this morning and GA reported it missed counting 2600 votes. The county heavily voted for Trump. And after the votes were counted Trump gained 800 votes out of that 2600. Apparently it was a memory card/stick that was never inserted into the vote counting machine. No one knows if it was an accident or if someone looked over the votes and saw a mass amount of votes for Trump over Biden and purposely didn’t count them.

According to normally anti-Trump Fake News MSN:

Quote
2,755 votes not previously counted were found on a memory card that an election
official reportedly failed to insert into the system for counting.

The breakdown of the uncounted ballots was 1,577 for Trump, 1,128 for Biden,
43 for Libertarian Jo Jorgensen, and seven write-in votes, Sterling said.

So, the fact that this was a heavy Republican county (Fayette) bears out the fact that Trump got more votes.  So what if it's only a few hundred?  Well, if this happened in ONE county, then how many others might have it happened in?  Obviously, the procedures in place to ensure all memory cards are securely tracked and entered into the voting system failed.  It's not that difficult.  An encrypted memory card with a tracking number stored on it would allow anyone with access to insert the card, read the vote info, and record the tracking number that was associated with it.  Matching against a list of issued tracking numbers would flag any that are missing.

How stupid are the people giving Dominion their money?  How can they have so many "glitches" that they blame on "human error"?  Isn't the entire purpose of installing these machines to eliminate human error?  Might as well go back to hand-counting paper ballots for all the good this digital vote switcher provides.

And why was there no poll watcher making sure the person added the vote data to the system?  There's no difference between a memory card and a big box of ballots other than physical size and format.  It should be just as protected and verified by all parties when moved from point to point.

Do we need to hire Loomis Security to transfer memory cards now?  Why was the info even required to be on a card? They could have uploaded the info to a secure server, and used the memory card as a backup.  An email to an auditor could bounce the totals against the file received to verify what was uploaded is correct.

So many ways to do it right.  Apparently, the integrity of the election was never in question before, so why expend the money or effort to verify and certify a machine? 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 17, 2020, 07:02:03 PM

What's obvious is OMiGod wants to call people crazy and "conspiracy theorists" for sharing information that HE believes is fake news or illogical.  We aren't making this shit up (unlike he seems to have a habit of doing).  We are just sharing it.  That's the exact kind of bullying and censorship that's happening on the Big Tech platforms right now.  Is he here to steer this forum in that same direction?

Yet, he whines that he's picked on for having a different opinion.  He can't see that him attacking ANYONE else over what they post is no different.

"Hypocrite" doesn't quite capture how he has been acting.

there is no evidence this is happening according to omni and eef
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 17, 2020, 08:04:06 PM
there is no evidence this is happening according to omni and eef

aka Team Gaslight
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: eyeeatingfish on November 17, 2020, 09:01:08 PM
That's not what you said.  You said:

If you aren't engaged enough to discuss the circumstances, the history from 2000 as it's VERY relevant, the censorship of the President, his staff and everyone else on Social Media who dares to have an opinion that differs from the MSM (they declared Biden has won. Any other opinion is FAKE NEWS and DANGEROUS), then why even bother posting at all?

You're allowed to withhold your opinion as you wait for the final outcome without posting that's what you're doing while also telling us to do the same.

Could have just clicked past this thread altogether.

Again, if you aren't jumping on the crazy conspiracy theories then my comment doesn't apply to you. Could have just scrolled past my reply altogether.

I will not apologize for advising people to exercise restraint and objectivity and I can't figure out why you are so triggered by that

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: eyeeatingfish on November 17, 2020, 09:02:58 PM
There’s “Conspiracy” and there’s also conspiracy.

By @DineshDsouza

All organized criminal activity is a conspiracy. Keep that in mind the next time you hear some media figure disdainfully refer to “conspiracy theories” as if the concept itself were inherently ridiculous #election2020

https://parler.com/post/bc323abb0a844239ba4d199e43757ba9


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That is true, I was referencing some of the crazy conspiracy theories I have seen being spread. If there is evidence of actual criminal conspiracy I am certainly interested in it.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 17, 2020, 09:20:53 PM
aka Team Gaslight

you mean team cognitive dissonance?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 17, 2020, 09:24:26 PM
you mean team cognitive dissonance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bi64CQBbV4
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 17, 2020, 09:29:16 PM
Again, if you aren't jumping on the crazy conspiracy theories then my comment doesn't apply to you. Could have just scrolled past my reply altogether.

I will not apologize for advising people to exercise restraint and objectivity and I can't figure out why you are so triggered by that

Nothing you can ever say can trigger me.  I can knock down emotional, unsubstantiated accusations of "CONSPIRACY THEORY!!  AHHHHHH!!" all day long ...


... and twice on Sunday.


Calling something a conspiracy theory is the default stance for people who require video evidence before believing there are really evil people on this planet, and many of them in positions of great power.

Look at how many Billionaires are supporting Democrats in elections -- putting out hundreds of millions, if not billions, of their wealth -- to control the political machinary.

Then Democrats go on TV and cry about getting big money out of politics ... while Wall Street is donating billions to their "cause". 

It's a shell game, and the people running it have mastered it over the last century.  Don't feel bad about being fooled.  You're in the majority.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 17, 2020, 09:39:58 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/huge-elections-security-expert-finds-wisconsin-results-complete-fraud-current-machines-not-capability-count-mass-dumps-biden-reported-time-period-video/?fbclid=IwAR3WDQ2WF8v0eYT1XrkmnVeKMviCatYZ8kISZ0AbbdskeGuJCoj4eYKZXNQ
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 18, 2020, 12:30:50 AM
Hmmm.... Now it's starting to add up.  I posted that I was wondering why the cybersecurity council and DHS had come out with a statement saying the 2020 election was the most secure in history (hard to make that claim when the election isn't even over, right?).

Turns out that Dominion and Smartmatic, the companies that are being accused of possibly tampering with votes and counts, are part of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA)! 

Well, now.  I can hear those omnitive dissonance wheels starting to turn as I type!


It Looks as Though Dominion, Smartmatic Played a Part in DHS' Election Defense

Quote
The Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security
Agency (CISA) issued a statement last week defending the integrity of the 2020 election.
The problem, however, is two of the main election software companies that have been
called into question – Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic – sit on CISA. And that
information was never disclosed, the Epoch Times reported.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/11/16/dhs-defended-election-integrity-and-multiple-software-companies-but-failed-to-disclose-pertinent-information-n2580205
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 18, 2020, 12:51:26 AM
Parler quote from Kayleigh:

After presenting 234 pages of sworn affidavits raising allegations of fraud in Wayne County, Michigan voting, the Wayne County Board of Canvassers has DECLINED to certify their portion of the Michigan vote.

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https://parler.com/post/48194493ec754b7db3298b4d8790225a
It appears that Wayne County reversed its decision and will certify its results:

Michigan’s Wayne County Certifies Election Results After Initial Deadlock

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/michigans-wayne-county-certifies-election-results-after-initial-deadlock_3583549.html
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 18, 2020, 12:54:34 AM
aka Team Gaslight
Good one!  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 18, 2020, 01:10:55 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/huge-elections-security-expert-finds-wisconsin-results-complete-fraud-current-machines-not-capability-count-mass-dumps-biden-reported-time-period-video/?fbclid=IwAR3WDQ2WF8v0eYT1XrkmnVeKMviCatYZ8kISZ0AbbdskeGuJCoj4eYKZXNQ
That is a very interesting chart. If the other states vote counts vs time coincides with MI chart I think that shows election tampering.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 18, 2020, 01:15:04 AM
Turns out a third county in GA found a memory card with votes that have a Trump majority that was not counted.

Third Georgia County Finds Memory Card With Uncounted Votes, Most for Trump

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/third-georgia-county-finds-memory-card-with-uncounted-votes-most-for-trump_3583666.html
Title: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 18, 2020, 09:14:59 AM
Ok, got forwarded this link on Rumble by a friend. . 

This seems really far out there. Is this one a “conspiracy” or a conspiracy?

Report by OAN, US Army forces grabbed CIA servers in Germany and found that Trump won the election according to data in Scytl servers. 

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201118/8aa5ed8f7ceb645ae17273611c27c15b.jpg)


https://rumble.com/vb6xa5-trumps-raids-cia-base-servers-reveal-trump-won-410-electoral-votes-more-pow.html
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 18, 2020, 09:17:28 AM
Turns out a third county in GA found a memory card with votes that have a Trump majority that was not counted.

Third Georgia County Finds Memory Card With Uncounted Votes, Most for Trump

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/third-georgia-county-finds-memory-card-with-uncounted-votes-most-for-trump_3583666.html

How come so far ever error was in Trumps favor.  Enter Forest Gump Meme "I may not be a smart man"
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: bass monkey on November 18, 2020, 09:33:23 AM
Turns out a third county in GA found a memory card with votes that have a Trump majority that was not counted.

Third Georgia County Finds Memory Card With Uncounted Votes, Most for Trump

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/third-georgia-county-finds-memory-card-with-uncounted-votes-most-for-trump_3583666.html

Interesting that all the forgotten memory cards were mostly from Trump. 

I wonder if someone was sorting them as they arrived and put on the side as it waited its turn to be read. Oh,  red county,  that bin, red counties go in that bin.

It could be a possible explanation why Biden jumped overnight,  and Trump remained the same.  They stopped counting from Trumps "favorable" areas
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 18, 2020, 11:29:26 AM
Interesting that all the forgotten memory cards were mostly from Trump. 

I wonder if someone was sorting them as they arrived and put on the side as it waited its turn to be read. Oh,  red county,  that bin, red counties go in that bin.

It could be a possible explanation why Biden jumped overnight,  and Trump remained the same.  They stopped counting from Trumps "favorable" areas

I repeat:  what's the purpose of having automated voting machines if they are still vulnerable to human error/tampering/fraud/hacking?

The obvious answer is they don't mind cruise control, as long as they can turn it off when they want.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 18, 2020, 01:50:31 PM
Ok, got forwarded this link on Rumble by a friend. . 

This seems really far out there. Is this one a “conspiracy” or a conspiracy?

Report by OAN, US Army forces grabbed CIA servers in Germany and found that Trump won the election according to data in Scytl servers. 

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201118/8aa5ed8f7ceb645ae17273611c27c15b.jpg)


https://rumble.com/vb6xa5-trumps-raids-cia-base-servers-reveal-trump-won-410-electoral-votes-more-pow.html
Someone sent me that link this morning as well. I trust OAN for their reports but I am not too sure about the validity of the results. Even blue CA went for Trump. If true, Trump should make sure this server is found and dissected.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 18, 2020, 05:40:33 PM
Leftists Harass Republicans Until They
Certified Irregular Votes In MI,
Something WEIRD Is Happening


Their logical and objective argument that swayed officials to certify the election unanimously?

RACIST!!!!    O0

https://youtu.be/iYnhr0gYdow
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 18, 2020, 07:47:24 PM
Some suggested "irregularities" that might warrant investigation.

[click on the rumble link to open in new tab... or use the embedded youtube video]

https://rumble.com (https://rumble.com/vb8ksn-drop-and-roll-how-the-2020-election-was-stolen-from-donald-trump.html)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_P3-Z2MV5I&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 18, 2020, 08:18:18 PM
OAN: Retired AF General McInerney blows whistle on CIA vote hacking system “Hammer” and “Scorecard”.

https://youtu.be/8WSDObSrKTc
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 18, 2020, 08:28:50 PM
Twenty minute interview today of attorney Lin Wood (Richard Jewell, Nicolas Sandmann, Kyle Rittenhouse) by Howie Carr. Wood isn't short on confidence. Let's hope he's even 25% accurate.

https://youtu.be/m2Bs2ovDjvw
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 19, 2020, 07:48:20 AM
The full article, including the actual affidavit itself, along with the brief interview:

BOOM: Election Fraud Expert Russ Ramsland Files Affidavit Showing ‘PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY’ of Election Results in Michigan

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/boom-election-fraud-expert-russ-ramsland-files-affidavit-showing-physical-impossibility-election-results-michigan/

Affidavit excerpts:

“My colleagues and I… have studied… the November 3, 2020, election results. Based on the significant anomalies and red flags that we have observed, we believe there is a significant probability that election results have been manipulated…”

“There are a stunning 3,276 precincts where the Presidential Votes Cast compared to the Estimated Voters based on Reported Statistics ranges from 84% to 350%… reveals 431,954 excess ballots.. This pattern strongly suggests that the *additive algorithm* was activated.”

“Until the tabulated voter turnout reached approximately 83%, Trump was generally winning between 55% and 60% of every turnout point. Then, after the counting was closed at 2:00 am, the situation dramatically reserved itself, starting with a series of impossible spikes.”

 “The final red flag is perhaps the greatest. In the data are 4 spikes totaling 384, 733 ballots allegedly processed in a combined interval of only 2 hours and 38 minutes. This is physically impossible given the available equipment at the 4 reference locations.”

“Wayne County uses Dominion Equipment, where 46 out of 47 precincts/townships display a highly unlikely 96%_ as the number of votes cast, using the Secretary of State’s number of voters in the precint/township; and 25 of those 7 precincts/townships show 100% turnout.”

“This pattern strongly suggests both the additive algorithm (a feature enhancement referred to as “ranking choice voting algorithm” or “RCV”) was activated in the code… as well as batch processing of blank votes… where 74,119 more ballots were cast than the capacity.”

The *additive algorithm* as shown in the Democracy Suite EMS Results Tally and Reporting User Guide, Chapter 11, Settings 11.2.2. It reads in part, “RCV METHOD: This will select the specific method of tabulating RCV votes to elect a winner.”


Two minute video interview segment embedded in tweet:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1327511568993701888 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1327511568993701888)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 19, 2020, 08:41:17 AM
Someone sent me that link this morning as well. I trust OAN for their reports but I am not too sure about the validity of the results. Even blue CA went for Trump. If true, Trump should make sure this server is found and dissected.
A HS classmate posts much of that stuff.  Interesting that one has to almost DIG to find even articles about that stuff.  It is "truth"?  I think there's def elements of truth in there, or at least reasonable doubt level.  When folks deal in absolutes, they tend to close their minds to things that challenge their belief structure. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 19, 2020, 11:20:04 AM
A HS classmate posts much of that stuff.  Interesting that one has to almost DIG to find even articles about that stuff.  It is "truth"?  I think there's def elements of truth in there, or at least reasonable doubt level.  When folks deal in absolutes, they tend to close their minds to things that challenge their belief structure.

(https://i.imgur.com/3oBZmYs.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 19, 2020, 11:42:07 AM
Omni, you should watch Sydney Powell's PC.  Did you look up the voting software that I mentioned previously?

-Dominion/Smartmatic used to count votes
-Developed in Venezuela for Chavez so he keeps winning
-Executives for Smartmatic in the US have disapeared and their offices closed
-States that don't use the software rejected it because of easily hackable by even a cell phone
-Vids on YT showing counting machines being hacked by cell phone
-Executive caught on tape saying don't worry, Trump won't win. We made sure of that F* Him.
-Many foreign entities have ownership of the software, why it's even allowed in the US is a huge question
-Company keeps changing their name so  they can hide
-Showing voter fraud since 2004

There's more, but I can't remember off the top of my head right now.
-Software can give Trump .7 votes and Biden 1.25 ratio
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 19, 2020, 11:51:24 AM
Omni, you should watch Sydney Powell's PC.  Did you look up the voting software that I mentioned previously?

-Dominion/Smartmatic used to count votes
-Developed in Venezuela for Chavez so he keeps winning
-Executives for Smartmatic in the US have disapeared and their offices closed
-States that don't use the software rejected it because of easily hackable by even a cell phone
-Vids on YT showing counting machines being hacked by cell phone
-Executive caught on tape saying don't worry, Trump won't win. We made sure of that F* Him.
-Many foreign entities have ownership of the software, why it's even allowed in the US is a huge question
-Company keeps changing their name so  they can hide
-Showing voter fraud since 2004

There's more, but I can't remember off the top of my head right now.
-Software can give Trump .7 votes and Biden 1.25 ratio
Lies!  Stop watching/reading the Conservative propaganda! 

[sarcasm]
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 19, 2020, 11:53:47 AM
Lies!  Stop watching/reading the Conservative propaganda! 

[sarcasm]

No convictions, so didn't happen.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 19, 2020, 11:57:07 AM
No convictions, so didn't happen.
If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit! 

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 19, 2020, 12:03:42 PM
If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit!
And, unfortunately, the mass of the American public is as moronically imbecilic as that jury.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 19, 2020, 12:20:47 PM
Omni, you should watch Sydney Powell's PC.  Did you look up the voting software that I mentioned previously?

-Dominion/Smartmatic used to count votes
-Developed in Venezuela for Chavez so he keeps winning
-Executives for Smartmatic in the US have disapeared and their offices closed
-States that don't use the software rejected it because of easily hackable by even a cell phone
-Vids on YT showing counting machines being hacked by cell phone
-Executive caught on tape saying don't worry, Trump won't win. We made sure of that F* Him.
-Many foreign entities have ownership of the software, why it's even allowed in the US is a huge question
-Company keeps changing their name so  they can hide
-Showing voter fraud since 2004

There's more, but I can't remember off the top of my head right now.
-Software can give Trump .7 votes and Biden 1.25 ratio

In Georgia they are doing a hand recount. If results don't change we have some more evidence there is no issue with voting machines.  Like I said before our cyber security division said no issues also.   Random people say shit all the time don't make it true.  I trust the experts and the courts.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 19, 2020, 12:25:04 PM
SNIP

I trust the experts and the courts.
And random people on forums. . .

Sorry, I had to. . .  :rofl:

My bad. . .  :stopjack:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 19, 2020, 12:26:36 PM
In Georgia they are doing a hand recount. If results don't change we have some more evidence there is no issue with voting machines.  Like I said before our cyber security division said no issues also.   Random people say shit all the time don't make it true.  I trust the experts and the courts.
So does experts and courts say all kinds of s##t too. Who do you believe

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 19, 2020, 12:31:35 PM
So does experts and courts say all kinds of s##t too. Who do you believe

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I tend to believe the majority of experts.  Better odds its correct.  Courts I still believe. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 19, 2020, 12:34:59 PM
So does experts and courts say all kinds of s##t too. Who do you believe

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They are doing a recount, not an audit.

Recounting illegal ballots won't change the totals.  But, continuing the find more memory cards that were NEVER counted demonstrates a lack of control over the process.

That lack of control equates to "reasonable doubt" that the totals are accurate.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 19, 2020, 12:56:49 PM
I find it quite telling that the same people who oppose voter ID laws out of some imaginary
"voter suppression" or "disenfranchisement" CONSPIRACY THEORY
are the same people who now think that finding over 7,000 uncounted ballots in an extremely
close swing state election isn't important enough to investigate before calling the winner.

Perhaps because they have a vested interest in BOTH issues, and the decision impacts
whether their party's candidate gains an advantage or not.

I say "perhaps",  but I meant "obviously".

"We will continue counting the votes until our candidate is sworn in."

Every vote must be counted ... at least once if it's for our candidate ... and as "spoiled" if not.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 19, 2020, 01:13:17 PM
I tend to believe the majority of experts.  Better odds its correct.  Courts I still believe.
Truth seems hard to find in this day and age

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 19, 2020, 01:38:50 PM
Truth seems hard to find in this day and age

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Truth exists no matter what anyone believes.

If you're seeking the truth, you consider ALL sides of the issue whether YOU believe in it or not.

The Scientific Method includes excluding as many wrong theories as possible through experimentation and empirical observation until what's left must be true.  That's different than adopting one theory and calling any opposing opinions Conspiracy Theories or "crazy".

Edison is said to have tried 100 different materials for the filament in his lightbulb before discovering tungsten was the best.  When asked why he failed 99 times before his one success, he replied that he had no failures.  He'd succeeded in discovering 99 different ways to NOT make a light bulb.

I guess some people see the first 99 tries as crazy behavior.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 19, 2020, 01:47:29 PM
Truth exists no matter what anyone believes.

If you're seeking the truth, you consider ALL sides of the issue whether YOU believe in it or not.

The Scientific Method includes excluding as many wrong theories as possible through experimentation and empirical observation until what's left must be true.  That's different than adopting one theory and calling any opposing opinions Conspiracy Theories or "crazy".

Edison is said to have tried 100 different materials for the filament in his lightbulb before discovering tungsten was the best.  When asked why he failed 99 times before his one success, he replied that he had no failures.  He'd succeeded in discovering 99 different ways to NOT make a light bulb.

I guess some people see the first 99 tries as crazy behavior.
WD40 had a similar story. True, truth is out there but it seems like not to many people looking for it. Don't confuse me with the facts my mind is already made up.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 19, 2020, 02:30:38 PM
WD40 had a similar story. True, truth is out there but it seems like not to many people looking for it. Don't confuse me with the facts my mind is already made up.

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So did the glue used for sticky notes. 

Quote
Dr. Spencer Silver, a 3M scientist, was busily researching adhesives in the laboratory.
In the process, he discovered something peculiar: an adhesive that stuck lightly to
surfaces but didn’t bond tightly to them.

"It was part of my job as a researcher to develop new adhesives, and

At that time we wanted to develop bigger, stronger, tougher adhesives,"
said Silver."This was none of those."

What Silver discovered was something called microspheres which retain their stickiness
but with a "removability characteristic," allowing attached surfaces to peel apart easily.

For years, Silver struggled to find a use for his invention. But that didn’t keep him from
touting the merits of his creation to colleagues.

"I came to be known as Mr. Persistent because I wouldn't give up.”

Meanwhile, Art Fry, another 3M scientist, was frustrated. Every Wednesday night while
practicing with his church choir, he would use little scraps of paper to mark the hymns
they were going to sing in the upcoming service. By Sunday, he’d find that they’d all
fallen out of the hymnal.

He needed a bookmark that would stick to the paper without damaging the pages.

If you can't guess what happened next, here's the rest of the story :geekdanc: ...

https://www.post-it.com/3M/en_US/post-it/contact-us/about-us/


Until then, the "truth" was that there was no adhesive compound that could do what a sticky-note now does. 

The real truth is, the compounds and processes needed to create the adhesive for a sticky-note always existed.  They were just waiting for someone to DISCOVER them.

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 19, 2020, 02:41:28 PM
Perseverance, sticking to it. Good  story.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 19, 2020, 04:22:21 PM
Not like anyone beyond the age of 9 doesn't/shouldn't know, but... "trials take time"...

For audio:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1329524226156498944

(https://i.imgur.com/fJke1wl.png)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 19, 2020, 04:37:16 PM
Sidney Powell: "It is of the greatest concern. It is the 1775 of our generation, and beyond".

1775? I vaguely recollect something happening at Lexington and Concord that year...

Time-stamped for just her final comment. Giuliani speaks for the first minute, then Powell.

https://youtu.be/UFaMSQKzwfs?t=200
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: GlockNewb on November 19, 2020, 05:17:22 PM
At 30:07, she calls it the CCP virus...insta-subscribe :D

https://youtu.be/AZGksPscmZ4

Full disclosure, it’s New Tang Dynasty Television, quite anti-China —> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Tang_Dynasty_Television
Title: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 19, 2020, 05:17:56 PM
In Georgia they are doing a hand recount. If results don't change we have some more evidence there is no issue with voting machines.  Like I said before our cyber security division said no issues also.   Random people say shit all the time don't make it true.  I trust the experts and the courts.
Scott Adams podcast yesterday (corrected) commented about about this.....

Media asks the election officials if the election officials did a good job with the election.  Election officials said “yes of course!  The election officials did a great job!   One of the best jobs ever!”

https://youtu.be/Sm1aTYSBIKY
(Around the 11 minute mark)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 19, 2020, 07:12:31 PM
NTD reports that a server related to the elections was seized in Germany. :popcorn:

https://youtu.be/AZGksPscmZ4
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 19, 2020, 07:12:51 PM
About 173,000 votes in Michigan were reported in precincts that report ZERO registered voters.

How do some of the most populated areas around Detroit not have data on how many voters are registered.

Also, in those districts, the rate of voting was 60%, 70%, 80% or higher, even though the average for the rest of the Detroit districts was around 10% - 20% with a few slightly over 20%.

Yeah, perfectly normal.  Nothing to see here.  Move along....

BTW, this is in WAYNE COUNTY, the SAME country that HALF the election officials refused to certify the results.  Half = 2 out of 4.  The 2 officials saw significant "imbalances" between ballots and the signatures being validated.  There were NO EXPLANATIONS given.  So, the Left sent them death threats, threatened their children and doxed them.  The 2 Republican officials then changed their minds and certified the results mostly on the promise that there would be a full audit of the ballots.

Now, the people promising an audit are saying it wasn't a guarantee, so the 2 officials both signed affidavits withdrawing their votes.  Of course, the Democrats are calling out, "Too late! Gotcha!!"

I think Wayne County will be plenty of evidence for the Trump team to argue against a full certification.

https://youtu.be/Jl4ZFS3xORM
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 19, 2020, 07:53:47 PM
Crowder has been doing some great work recently, but the Thomas Finnegan bits are not funny. It makes me wonder if Crowder is an a-hole boss in real life and his minions are too afraid to criticize him.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: GlockNewb on November 19, 2020, 07:56:18 PM
Crowder has been doing some great work recently, but the Thomas Finnegan bits are not funny. It makes me wonder if Crowder is an a-hole boss in real life and his minions are too afraid to criticize him.

Publicly, he’s had issues with Sven Lukas who appeared as Sven Computer on his show. Agreed, great work but my mind can’t keep bouncing back and forth between jokes and news, drowns our the gravity of the message for me.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: eyeeatingfish on November 19, 2020, 07:58:12 PM
Nothing you can ever say can trigger me.  I can knock down emotional, unsubstantiated accusations of "CONSPIRACY THEORY!!  AHHHHHH!!" all day long ...


... and twice on Sunday.


Calling something a conspiracy theory is the default stance for people who require video evidence before believing there are really evil people on this planet, and many of them in positions of great power.

Look at how many Billionaires are supporting Democrats in elections -- putting out hundreds of millions, if not billions, of their wealth -- to control the political machinary.

Then Democrats go on TV and cry about getting big money out of politics ... while Wall Street is donating billions to their "cause". 

It's a shell game, and the people running it have mastered it over the last century.  Don't feel bad about being fooled.  You're in the majority.

I mentioned conspiracy theories because I have already seen some. Crazy suggestions that were obviously true on their face.

I will believe there was massive fraud when someone actually produces proof. So far we have gotten token examples of a few votes here and a few votes there. Lots of big claims, not so much big proof
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 19, 2020, 09:11:45 PM
Crowder has been doing some great work recently, but the Thomas Finnegan bits are not funny. It makes me wonder if Crowder is an a-hole boss in real life and his minions are too afraid to criticize him.

I think they use Finnegan as a whipping boy to have someone other than the huge number of sleezey and stupid Democrats to make fun of.  I don't find it funny, either, but then I guess he's getting paid.   :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 19, 2020, 09:19:42 PM
Publicly, he’s had issues with Sven Lukas who appeared as Sven Computer on his show. Agreed, great work but my mind can’t keep bouncing back and forth between jokes and news, drowns our the gravity of the message for me.

Well, I try to remind myself it's a comedy show first, but with some very well done and often ignored by the MSM reporting on the side.  I especially like some of the Change My Mind videos.  Not all, but some.  He even spent the time to read the entire Green New Deal, as so many people assumed they knew what was in it based on "news" reports.  It's only like 2+ pages double-spaced.   :wacko:

I just heard him say last Friday or Saturday that his show is now bigger than The Young Turks, even though TYT has a massive budget.  Now that LWC has surpassed them, he's going to retire the suit he used to do his Cenk Uygur impressions and stop doing TYT jokes, as that would appear to be "punching down" now.   :thumbsup:

I like his shows, but they get too long to watch as often as I'd like.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 19, 2020, 11:07:53 PM
Looks like the other shoe was already positioned to drop .... and it's about to fall!

Virginia Delays Statewide Certification of Election Results

Virginia’s Board of Elections has delayed certifying the state’s election results
until later this week to give more time to a voter registrar’s office that had a COVID-19
outbreak.


Quote
The Board of Elections was slated to certify the results Nov. 16. State officials said
they have already received local certifications from 132 other cities and counties in
the state.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/virginia/articles/2020-11-17/virginia-delays-statewide-certification-of-election-results

Makes me wonder if more offices/states will be unable to certify on time if they, too, experience similar COVID-19 situations?

Several states are supposed to certify by 23 Nov, and some as late as 01 Dec.  There's a 2-week "buffer" between then and the 14 Dec Electoral College meeting.

It's possible this can help Trump, if states miss the certification deadlines even without courts issuing injunctions due to lawsuits.  The more screwed up the election becomes, the more likely this whole mess is thrown out, and the Congress gets to hold a special election.

 :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 20, 2020, 06:11:36 AM
Nothing you can ever say can trigger me.  I can knock down emotional, unsubstantiated accusations of "CONSPIRACY THEORY!!  AHHHHHH!!" all day long ...

... and twice on Sunday.

FLAPP

Don't forget half your brain tied behind your back to make it fair.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 20, 2020, 08:36:45 AM
GA just certified their votes after the "recount".  To me a recount means nothing if there are still invalid ballots in there.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 20, 2020, 08:57:29 AM
GA just certified their votes after the "recount".  To me a recount means nothing if there are still invalid ballots in there.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/georgia-recount-election-results/index.html

Guess that means dominion conspiracy theory is false.  Was a hand count and no changes.  If it was corrupt software it would of turned up.  Wonder what excuse flapp will create for this one. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 20, 2020, 10:17:58 AM
Dominion REFUSED to Testify Before PA House Committee Today — Lawyered Up Instead

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/update-seems-important-dominion-refused-testify-pa-house-committee-today-lawyered-instead/

As reported earlier Dominion Voting Systems backed out from testifying before a Pennsylvania House Committee on Friday.

The PA House GOP leader accused Dominion of “slapping Pennsylvanians in their face”. He went on to ask, “If they have nothing to hide, why are they hiding from us?”

We now know that Dominion not only bailed on the hearing today but they LAWYERED UP INSTEAD!

Does that sound like a company on the up-and-up?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 20, 2020, 10:25:40 AM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/georgia-recount-election-results/index.html

Guess that means dominion conspiracy theory is false.  Was a hand count and no changes.  If it was corrupt software it would of turned up.  Wonder what excuse flapp will create for this one.

https://tennesseestar.com/2020/11/14/georgia-audit-limits-monitors-and-omits-absentee-ballot-signature-matching/

It was an audit, not a recount, there was no signature matching and access to observers was limited to the point of uselessness. Why are they trying so hard to hide what they are up to? The transparency in this election is a joke and has destroyed faith in our republic, not that it matters to the folks who spent 4 years pushing the russiagate hoax.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 20, 2020, 10:40:45 AM
https://tennesseestar.com/2020/11/14/georgia-audit-limits-monitors-and-omits-absentee-ballot-signature-matching/

It was an audit, not a recount, there was no signature matching and access to observers was limited to the point of uselessness. Why are they trying so hard to hide what they are up to? The transparency in this election is a joke and has destroyed faith in our republic, not that it matters to the folks who spent 4 years pushing the russiagate hoax.
HNN called it a recount this morning. Bias? Nah, doesn’t happen.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: QUIETShooter on November 20, 2020, 11:34:40 AM
Ok.  I don't know enough of these things but I gotta get this off my mind.  Let me know if they already tried this then go easy on me.

Would they (being those in charge of voting in any state) be open to a non-partisan investigation as to the inner workings and programming of the voting machines?

I mean, have the machines tested.  For accuracy, zero tolerance for outside tampering, potential hacking, and over-riding.  Have an outside third party certify the machines

Also, did President Trump and his legal team pursue this?

I guess what bothers me is why are the democrats so upset that Trump is holding out?  What is happening now has never happened before in the history of the elections.  So what if we have to push back the certification process and the Dec. 16th meeting of the Electoral college.  There's a first time for everything.

Just f*ckn wait.  Was it that Hillary witch that said prior to the general election that Biden should never concede?  So the shoe is on the other foot and now it's a different story when Trump won't concede?  WTF democrats?  All for me and none for thee?

Wait until all the court filings and lawsuits are resolved.  President Trump is legally contesting the election.  It's his right to do so. 

Also why are the democrats harassing that GSA lady?  She's doing her job.  Leave her alone you jack-asses.  The more the dems bitch and moan and push for transition of power the more I feel they got something to hide.

I don't care what the other half of America thinks.  The lines have been drawn in the sand and this is just the beginning for the fight for America.

Sorry, all rant and no evidence or information to share.  I'm not that bright.  I just go by what's in the gut.   
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 20, 2020, 11:48:43 AM
Ok.  I don't know enough of these things but I gotta get this off my mind.  Let me know if they already tried this then go easy on me.

Would they (being those in charge of voting in any state) be open to a non-partisan investigation as to the inner workings and programming of the voting machines?

I mean, have the machines tested.  For accuracy, zero tolerance for outside tampering, potential hacking, and over-riding.  Have an outside third party certify the machines

Also, did President Trump and his legal team pursue this?

I guess what bothers me is why are the democrats so upset that Trump is holding out?  What is happening now has never happened before in the history of the elections.  So what if we have to push back the certification process and the Dec. 16th meeting of the Electoral college.  There's a first time for everything.

Just f*ckn wait.  Was it that Hillary witch that said prior to the general election that Biden should never concede?  So the shoe is on the other foot and now it's a different story when Trump won't concede?  WTF democrats?  All for me and none for thee?

Wait until all the court filings and lawsuits are resolved.  President Trump is legally contesting the election.  It's his right to do so. 

Also why are the democrats harassing that GSA lady?  She's doing her job.  Leave her alone you jack-asses.  The more the dems bitch and moan and push for transition of power the more I feel they got something to hide.

I don't care what the other half of America thinks.  The lines have been drawn in the sand and this is just the beginning for the fight for America.

Sorry, all rant and no evidence or information to share.  I'm not that bright.  I just go by what's in the gut.

Not the first time.  Rutherford B. Hayes won the Presidency in the 1876 election after a contested election became Congress' mess to sort out (before the amendment existed to handle this issue).  Congress created a bipartisan commission comprised of 5 House Representatives, 5 Senators and 5 Supreme Court justices to decide the election outcome.

Hayes won by a single electoral vote, even though his opponent won the popular vote total by a margin of over 260,000 popular votes.

Quote
In 1876, when the nation went to the polls to elect Grant’s successor, Democratic candidate Samuel Tilden,
governor of New York, emerged with a lead of more than 260,000 popular votes. But Tilden had amassed
only 184 electoral votes—one shy of the number needed to defeat his Republican opponent, Governor
Rutherford B. Hayes of Ohio. Returns from three states (Louisiana, Florida, South Carolina) were in dispute,
with both sides claiming victory. Together, the states represented a total of 19 electoral votes, which along
with one disputed elector from Oregon would be enough to swing the election Hayes’s way.

The U.S. Constitution provided no way of resolving the dispute, and now Congress would have to decide.
As Democrats controlled the House of Representatives, and Republicans dominated in the Senate, the two
sides compromised by creating a bipartisan electoral commission with five representatives, five senators
and five Supreme Court justices.

Though the commission was supposed to be comprised of seven Republicans, seven Democrats and one
independent, the independent—Supreme Court Justice David Davis—ended up dropping out when he was
offered a Senate seat, and a Republican was named to replace him. In the end, after a series of votes along
strict party lines, the commission awarded Hayes all three of the contested states in early March 1877, making
him the winner by a single electoral vote.

https://www.history.com/news/reconstruction-1876-election-rutherford-hayes
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 20, 2020, 12:01:19 PM
Ok.  I don't know enough of these things but I gotta get this off my mind.  Let me know if they already tried this then go easy on me.

Would they (being those in charge of voting in any state) be open to a non-partisan investigation as to the inner workings and programming of the voting machines?

I mean, have the machines tested.  For accuracy, zero tolerance for outside tampering, potential hacking, and over-riding.  Have an outside third party certify the machines

Also, did President Trump and his legal team pursue this?

I guess what bothers me is why are the democrats so upset that Trump is holding out?  What is happening now has never happened before in the history of the elections.  So what if we have to push back the certification process and the Dec. 16th meeting of the Electoral college.  There's a first time for everything.

Just f*ckn wait.  Was it that Hillary witch that said prior to the general election that Biden should never concede?  So the shoe is on the other foot and now it's a different story when Trump won't concede?  WTF democrats?  All for me and none for thee?

Wait until all the court filings and lawsuits are resolved.  President Trump is legally contesting the election.  It's his right to do so. 

Also why are the democrats harassing that GSA lady?  She's doing her job.  Leave her alone you jack-asses.  The more the dems bitch and moan and push for transition of power the more I feel they got something to hide.

I don't care what the other half of America thinks.  The lines have been drawn in the sand and this is just the beginning for the fight for America.

Sorry, all rant and no evidence or information to share.  I'm not that bright.  I just go by what's in the gut.
Hit the nail on the head!

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 20, 2020, 12:13:21 PM
In my personal opinion, if I'm watching a sporting event, and a team is proven to have cheated, they should be disqualified from the contest.  If they scored the most points, points that are assumed to have been legit and unrelated to the cheating, they should still be disqualified.  This would be FAIR.  Break the rules, suffer defeat.

"It's not whether you win or lose, but how you play the game." 

The same should apply to our elections.  No one should be allowed to benefit if they are cheating, even if the cheating didn't result in the number of votes the cheater won by.

We have plenty of evidence of cheating -- poll and counting area observers being obstructed/kicked out, signatures being ignored or mismatched signatures not disqualifying ballots, Democrat voters being allowed to fix ballot "errors" but Republican voters not being given equal treatment, machines which had problems the last 4 years being used in 2020, etc.

Excuses of this being human error and that being a "glitch" don't cut it.  If the opportunity to prevent these things existed and no one did it, that's allowing problems to continue which seemed to all favor Democrats.

There are way more instances of fraud than have been proven, and some are on both sides, but most of those were individual, not party, instances.  But, when 170,000 ballots for Biden were from counties reporting zero registered voters, we have to assume these "irregularities" were intentional. 

At a minimum, certification should be blocked.  Optimally, the cheaters should be ejected from the "game".
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 20, 2020, 12:15:51 PM
Ok.  I don't know enough of these things but I gotta get this off my mind.  Let me know if they already tried this then go easy on me.

Would they (being those in charge of voting in any state) be open to a non-partisan investigation as to the inner workings and programming of the voting machines?

I mean, have the machines tested.  For accuracy, zero tolerance for outside tampering, potential hacking, and over-riding.  Have an outside third party certify the machines

Also, did President Trump and his legal team pursue this?

I guess what bothers me is why are the democrats so upset that Trump is holding out?  What is happening now has never happened before in the history of the elections.  So what if we have to push back the certification process and the Dec. 16th meeting of the Electoral college.  There's a first time for everything.

Just f*ckn wait.  Was it that Hillary witch that said prior to the general election that Biden should never concede?  So the shoe is on the other foot and now it's a different story when Trump won't concede?  WTF democrats?  All for me and none for thee?

Wait until all the court filings and lawsuits are resolved.  President Trump is legally contesting the election.  It's his right to do so. 

Also why are the democrats harassing that GSA lady?  She's doing her job.  Leave her alone you jack-asses.  The more the dems bitch and moan and push for transition of power the more I feel they got something to hide.

I don't care what the other half of America thinks.  The lines have been drawn in the sand and this is just the beginning for the fight for America.

Sorry, all rant and no evidence or information to share.  I'm not that bright.  I just go by what's in the gut.

You're asking too many questions that make sense.  The DNC does not do things that way and go based on emotion and cheating.

In Powell's statement, she mentioned that many other states didn't use Dominion due to their  security issues.  I suggest you watch it.  It's like 6 mins, but very interesting.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 20, 2020, 12:16:32 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/georgia-recount-election-results/index.html

Guess that means dominion conspiracy theory is false.  Was a hand count and no changes.  If it was corrupt software it would of turned up.  Wonder what excuse flapp will create for this one.
They don't present in the court of public opinion. They present it in a court of law. Legal process still playing out.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 20, 2020, 12:18:54 PM

SNIP

Optimally, the cheaters should be ejected from the "game".
Optimally, the cheaters should be publicly hung in the town square as traitors.

FIFY.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 20, 2020, 12:20:32 PM
I will believe there was massive fraud when someone actually produces proof. So far we have gotten token examples of a few votes here and a few votes there. Lots of big claims, not so much big proof

If I wanted to watch someone put their hands over their ears and shout "lalalalalala I cant HEAR you!" then I would turn on CNN
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 20, 2020, 12:21:56 PM
What We Must Believe to Believe Biden Won

The surreal list of innumerable irregularities.

Thu Nov 19, 2020 David Catron

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/11/what-we-must-believe-believe-biden-won-david-catron/

The Democrats dismiss any mention of the innumerable irregularities that tainted the general election as little more than crackpot conspiracy theories. This is a convenient way to avoid addressing serious questions raised by serious observers, but it will further undermine confidence in key institutions that form the foundation upon which the republic stands. Public trust in government, media, and even science was already declining before Election Day. This trend will dramatically accelerate if Americans don’t get answers to questions such as the following: Why would the voters deliver the Democrats a comprehensive down-ballot drubbing yet hand the White House to the worst presidential candidate in living memory?

SNIP 

In the end, to accept Joe Biden as our legitimate Chief Executive, we must believe the voters hammered the Democrats in congressional, state, and local elections, yet decided to elect the “leader” of their party president. We must believe that he dramatically underperformed among minority voters, yet received 10 million more votes than Barack Obama. We must believe that virtually all of the reliable election bellwethers were wrong. We must believe that all of the elections in the swing states were conducted honestly and that the Venezuelan software used to tabulate the votes was secure. All of this beggars belief. Joe Biden may be inaugurated in January, but he certainly wasn’t elected president.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 20, 2020, 12:25:44 PM
What We Must Believe to Believe Biden Won

The surreal list of innumerable irregularities.

Thu Nov 19, 2020 David Catron

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/11/what-we-must-believe-believe-biden-won-david-catron/

The Democrats dismiss any mention of the innumerable irregularities that tainted the general election as little more than crackpot conspiracy theories. This is a convenient way to avoid addressing serious questions raised by serious observers, but it will further undermine confidence in key institutions that form the foundation upon which the republic stands. Public trust in government, media, and even science was already declining before Election Day. This trend will dramatically accelerate if Americans don’t get answers to questions such as the following: Why would the voters deliver the Democrats a comprehensive down-ballot drubbing yet hand the White House to the worst presidential candidate in living memory?

SNIP 

In the end, to accept Joe Biden as our legitimate Chief Executive, we must believe the voters hammered the Democrats in congressional, state, and local elections, yet decided to elect the “leader” of their party president. We must believe that he dramatically underperformed among minority voters, yet received 10 million more votes than Barack Obama. We must believe that virtually all of the reliable election bellwethers were wrong. We must believe that all of the elections in the swing states were conducted honestly and that the Venezuelan software used to tabulate the votes was secure. All of this beggars belief. Joe Biden may be inaugurated in January, but he certainly wasn’t elected president.
Is de-nial still a river in Egypt?

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 20, 2020, 12:29:50 PM
In sworn statement, prominent mathematician flags up to 100,000 Pennsylvania ballots

Federal Elections Commission Chairman Trey Trainor says new analysis by professor Steven Miller "adds to the conclusions that some level of voter fraud took place in this year's election."

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/mathematics-prof-says-sworn-statement-many-56000-gop-ballots-pa-may-be (https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/mathematics-prof-says-sworn-statement-many-56000-gop-ballots-pa-may-be)

Excerpt:

In a sworn declaration, a respected mathematician says his analysis of election data and phone interviews with Pennsylvania voters raises questions about as many as 100,000 absentee ballots requested in the key battleground state where President Trump and Joe Biden are separated by just about 82,000 votes.

Williams College Professor Steven Miller, a Yale and Princeton trained math expert, said he analyzed Pennsylvania ballot data collected by former Trump campaign data chief Matt Braynard as well as 2,684 voter interviews conducted by a phone bank and found two concerning patterns. One involved possible votes that were not counted, the other ballots that appeared to be requested by someone other than a registered voter.

"I estimate that the number of ballots that were either requested by someone other than the registered Republican or requested and returned but not counted range from 89,397 to 98,801," Miller said in the sworn statement provided to Just the News.

Link to sworn statement of professor Miller: https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2020-11/Miller_DeclarationAndAnalyisPA_GOP_BallotRequestData_2020_Final.pdf (https://justthenews.com/sites/default/files/2020-11/Miller_DeclarationAndAnalyisPA_GOP_BallotRequestData_2020_Final.pdf)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 20, 2020, 12:41:50 PM
Thirty-two minute interview with Patrick Colbeck.

Patrick is an aerospace engineer, author, former elected official, and former candidate for governor in Michigan. Served Two 4-yr Terms in Michigan Senate. Former NASA engineer (specializing in cabling) and currently Microsoft Small Business Specialist. Patrick was on the frontlines during the elections, he was a poll watcher. He describes how he noticed that the Dominion system was connected to the internet and when he questioned this they told him to not to worry about it and would not allow him to do any sort of inspection. Then he noticed ballots being dropped off in the middle of the night. He said they used covid as an excuse to keep the people watching 6 feet away. Patrick believes this is a coup and they got caught.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLsq4-nxe-0&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 20, 2020, 12:56:34 PM
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 20, 2020, 01:00:15 PM

Trey Trainor to Newsmax TV: Voter Fraud Is Taking Place

Quote
Chair of the Federal Election Commission Trey Trainor believes voter fraud is taking
place in states still counting ballots.

During a Friday appearance on Newsmax TV’s “National Report,” Trainor said locations
not granting observers access to watch the ballot counting process could be involved in
voter fraud.

“I do believe that there is voter fraud taking place in these places,” he said. “Otherwise
they would allow the observers to go in.”

Despite winning a court order, which allows the Trump campaign to send observers to
watch ballot counting in Pennsylvania from six feet away, Trainor said ballot watchers
“have not been allowed into the polling locations in a meaningful way.”

He said when observers have been permitted to watch, the goalpost has been moved
away from the six feet required by the court order.

“They have not been allowed that meaningful access,” he said, adding there has not
been transparency in the election.

“Our whole political system is based upon transparency to avoid the appearance of
corruption,” he said pointing out that Pennsylvania and other states are not conducting
counting in a transparent manner.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/trey-trainor-fec-trump-2020-election/2020/11/06/id/995772/
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 20, 2020, 01:11:52 PM
Unfortunately, The Trump legal team has pulled out the fraud lawsuits from MI, AZ and one other I can’t remember which one. It seems the fraud was pretty easy to prove but not on the scale enough to change an election. In other words, the fraud they allege only effects a few thousand votes. Not the tens or thousands or the hundreds of thousands required to change an outcome or to force the election to be thrown out. Without lawsuits that have been ruled on either way, how do we get to the Supreme Court?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 20, 2020, 01:15:24 PM
Unfortunately, The Trump legal team has pulled out the fraud lawsuits from MI, AZ and one other I can’t remember which one. It seems the fraud was pretty easy to prove but not on the scale enough to change an election. In other words, the fraud they allege only effects a few thousand votes. Not the tens or thousands or the hundreds of thousands required to change an outcome or to force the election to be thrown out. Without lawsuits that have been ruled on either way, how do we get to the Supreme Court?

They just have to block a few swing states from certifying.  That can be done if the election integrity was compromised.  Doesn't have to be enough PROVABLE ballots to swing the election results.  Just have to show the election wasn't fair, or was set up unconstitutionally.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 20, 2020, 01:33:20 PM
Unfortunately, The Trump legal team has pulled out the fraud lawsuits from MI, AZ and one other I can’t remember which one. It seems the fraud was pretty easy to prove but not on the scale enough to change an election. In other words, the fraud they allege only effects a few thousand votes. Not the tens or thousands or the hundreds of thousands required to change an outcome or to force the election to be thrown out. Without lawsuits that have been ruled on either way, how do we get to the Supreme Court?

So because they dropped the suit, you want to bypass the lower justice system to do what?  Apparently there is no mass fraud.  Small pockets of maybe but that can be delt with one by one like usual.  The Georgia audit proved that there was no "Dominion" software fraud.    Not sure what the end game is here.    I am all for making next years election even more secure but so far still no court wins or irrefutable evidence there is fraud.  Lets face the facts, Trump lost.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 20, 2020, 01:40:08 PM
National conservative group Amistad Project to challenge presidential election results in key states

The Trump campaign will join with Amistad Project on the lawsuits on case-by-case basis

https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/national-conservative-group-amistad-project-challenge-presidential-election

The national conservative legal group Amistad Project of the Thomas More Society on Friday announced that it will file federal and state lawsuits challenging the presidential election results in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, Georgia and Arizona, the group has announced.

The Trump campaign is joining with the Amistad Project on the lawsuits on a case-by-case basis, said Rudy Giuliani, who is leading the campaign’s legal efforts, the group also says.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 20, 2020, 01:53:48 PM
So because they dropped the suit, you want to bypass the lower justice system to do what?  Apparently there is no mass fraud.  Small pockets of maybe but that can be delt with one by one like usual.  The Georgia audit proved that there was no "Dominion" software fraud.    Not sure what the end game is here.    I am all for making next years election even more secure but so far still no court wins or irrefutable evidence there is fraud.  Lets face the facts, Trump lost.

please show me where he said he wants to bypass the lower courts...
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 20, 2020, 01:55:16 PM
please show me where he said he wants to bypass the lower courts...

Without lawsuits that have been ruled on either way, how do we get to the Supreme Court?

Maybe I am misinterpreting this line.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on November 20, 2020, 02:04:40 PM
Without lawsuits that have been ruled on either way, how do we get to the Supreme Court?

Maybe I am misinterpreting this line.

it's a question, not a statement
you are saying he made a statement
focus
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 20, 2020, 02:15:00 PM
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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 20, 2020, 02:23:38 PM
So because they dropped the suit, you want to bypass the lower justice system to do what?  Apparently there is no mass fraud.  Small pockets of maybe but that can be delt with one by one like usual.  The Georgia audit proved that there was no "Dominion" software fraud.    Not sure what the end game is here.    I am all for making next years election even more secure but so far still no court wins or irrefutable evidence there is fraud.  Lets face the facts, Trump lost.
Look ASSWIPE, I told you not to engage me again. What the fuck do you not understand about that? STFU. You know nothing and you embarrass yourself every time you post. WTF you complain about me being hostile to you but yet you must be in love with me because every time you do I get the opportunity to fuck with you. I don’t want to talk to you and I don’t want you talking to me. Are you that much of a fucking moron that you don’t understand that? You just are so immature you can’t control your feelings that you have to engage with me. Well this is what you are going to get every time you try. You constantly lie and you make yourself out to be the expert in all things here. Yet you constantly apologize for being wrong. Do you not get embarrassed by your stupidity? Are you that stupid and ignorant that you don’t see that? WTF?

First you say there is NO fraud. Now you admit there are pockets of it. Lie much? Backpeddling again. This is exactly why I don’t want to engage with you. You are a fucking liar and liars are not worth my time.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 20, 2020, 02:28:43 PM
Look ASSWIPE, I told you not to engage me again. What the fuck do you not understand about that? STFU. You know nothing and you embarrass yourself every time you post. WTF you complain about me being hostile to you but yet you must be in love with me because every time you do I get the opportunity to fuck with you. I don’t want to talk to you and I don’t want you talking to me. Are you that much of a fucking moron that you don’t understand that? You just are so immature you can’t control your feelings that you have to engage with me. Well this is what you are going to get every time you try. You constantly lie and you make yourself out to be the expert in all things here. Yet you constantly apologize for being wrong. Do you not get embarrassed by your stupidity? Are you that stupid and ignorant that you don’t see that? WTF?

First you say there is NO fraud. Now you admit there are pockets of it. Lie much? Backpeddling again. This is exactly why I don’t want to engage with you. You are a fucking liar and liars are not worth my time.
Take a breathe, breathe. Watch your blood pressure.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 20, 2020, 02:30:45 PM
Take a breathe, breathe. Watch your blood pressure.

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Seriously.  I've know Inspector for many years.  Always pretty darn chill. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 20, 2020, 02:34:53 PM
Take a breathe, breathe. Watch your blood pressure.
Some things are worth momentary spikes in blood pressure, including calling out uninformed and misinformed low-intelligence morons lacking any semblance of critical thinking skills.

Go Inspector. Both barrels. Or the full "high capacity magazine".
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 20, 2020, 02:37:07 PM
Some things are worth momentary spikes in blood pressure, including calling out uninformed and misinformed low-intelligence morons lacking any semblance of critical thinking skills.

Go Inspector. Both barrels. Or the full "high capacity magazine".
Well, I don't know him but wouldn't want him to blow a gasket. Only both barrels

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 20, 2020, 02:59:33 PM
Well, I don't know him but wouldn't want him to blow a gasket. Only both barrels

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Thanks but don’t worry about me. I’m not as pissed as I sound. As Flapp knows I actually get a bit of sadistic pleasure in blasting the idiot. I was leaving him alone totally. Every time he would quote me I would fuck with him. I figured he was smart enough to stop. But he isn’t. He was bitching about how I am so hostile to him. So I nicely asked the guy to not engage with me any more. And you see what he did a day later. He knows what to expect if he engages with me yet here we are. I was hoping I would be so hostile to him he would just stop trying to engage with me. But he continues. Is that considered him bullying me? 😂
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 20, 2020, 03:02:00 PM
Look ASSWIPE, I told you not to engage me again. What the fuck do you not understand about that? STFU. You know nothing and you embarrass yourself every time you post. WTF you complain about me being hostile to you but yet you must be in love with me because every time you do I get the opportunity to fuck with you. I don’t want to talk to you and I don’t want you talking to me. Are you that much of a fucking moron that you don’t understand that? You just are so immature you can’t control your feelings that you have to engage with me. Well this is what you are going to get every time you try. You constantly lie and you make yourself out to be the expert in all things here. Yet you constantly apologize for being wrong. Do you not get embarrassed by your stupidity? Are you that stupid and ignorant that you don’t see that? WTF?

First you say there is NO fraud. Now you admit there are pockets of it. Lie much? Backpeddling again. This is exactly why I don’t want to engage with you. You are a fucking liar and liars are not worth my time.

I said no MASS fraud.  I've never said there was zero fraud.  At least get your facts right if you want to insult me.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 20, 2020, 03:06:23 PM
Dominion Voting Systems Thursday night abruptly backed out of attending a fact-finding hearing that was set for Friday morning with the Pennsylvania House State Government Committee.

At a press conference Friday morning, State Govt Committee Chair Seth Grove said the 1.3. million Pennsylvanians who used Dominion’s voting machines have been “hung out to dry and slapped in their faces.”

Pennsylvania lawmakers had scheduled the hearing with the voting machine manufacturer “to help identify and correct any irregularities in the election process,” according to the House Republican Caucus.

“It is vitally important voters have faith in the machines they use to cast their ballots. On the heels of Gov. Tom Wolf unilaterally decertifying every voting machine in the Commonwealth, we need to know whether these new machines met expectations, whether they are reliable and whether they are not subject to interference,” said Rep. Grove (R-York).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QORy66SOkak
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 20, 2020, 03:16:00 PM
Seriously.  I've know Inspector for many years.  Always pretty darn chill.
Thanks man. My wife looked at me today with both eyes void of cataracts (she just had cataract surgery) and she said I look very content since I retired. It’s true. I really am very happy with my life choices. I have a bunch of guns and tons of ammo. And unlimited range time for a year. Who wouldn’t be happy? 😂

BTW I am getting to be a nervous wreck cuz we are going to be 12 strong this thanksgiving. My nephew and his wife and 6 kids just informed my wife and I they are coming for thanksgiving. Ages 1 1/2 to 12. So it’s going to be my wife and I, her niece and boyfriend and my nephew. My nephew and his wife and 6 kids just bought a 40’ 5th wheel, truck to pull it and sold their house. They are nomads for the next 2 years. They are hoping that they save enough money that they can buy a large piece of land in WY and build a homestead out there. They are hoping to farm and ranch. BTW it was his wife’s idea to do this. Where can I find a woman like that? 😂. Forgot to mention he works remotely so as long as he has a cell connection he is golden.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 20, 2020, 03:17:50 PM
I said no MASS fraud.  I've never said there was zero fraud.  At least get your facts right if you want to insult me.
Every time you engage with me you show your ignorance. And you are still a fucking liar. 😂. How much longer are you going to continue? Fucking idiot! 🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on November 20, 2020, 03:20:08 PM
Thanks man. My wife looked at me today with both eyes void of cataracts (she just had cataract surgery) and she said I look very content since I retired. It’s true.

Whew, that is far better than "Who the hell are you?"    jes jerkin' yer chain. 

Happy for you both, vision is everything.  My hearing is shot, but with good eyes, i miss nothing but noise.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 20, 2020, 03:26:08 PM
Thanks but don’t worry about me. I’m not as pissed as I sound. As Flapp knows I actually get a bit of sadistic pleasure in blasting the idiot. I was leaving him alone totally. Every time he would quote me I would fuck with him. I figured he was smart enough to stop. But he isn’t. He was bitching about how I am so hostile to him. So I nicely asked the guy to not engage with me any more. And you see what he did a day later. He knows what to expect if he engages with me yet here we are. I was hoping I would be so hostile to him he would just stop trying to engage with me. But he continues. Is that considered him bullying me?
Well, just wanted to be sure your blood pressure wasn't going up. I deal with some difficult people and mines boils over at times. My wife puts her hand on my back and says honey, just calm down.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 20, 2020, 03:26:42 PM
Thanks man. My wife looked at me today with both eyes void of cataracts (she just had cataract surgery) and she said I look very content since I retired. It’s true. I really am very happy with my life choices. I have a bunch of guns and tons of ammo. And unlimited range time for a year. Who wouldn’t be happy? 😂

BTW I am getting to be a nervous wreck cuz we are going to be 12 strong this thanksgiving. My nephew and his wife and 6 kids just informed my wife and I they are coming for thanksgiving. Ages 1 1/2 to 12. So it’s going to be my wife and I, her niece and boyfriend and my nephew. My nephew and his wife and 6 kids just bought a 40’ 5th wheel, truck to pull it and sold their house. They are nomads for the next 2 years. They are hoping that they save enough money that they can buy a large piece of land in WY and build a homestead out there. They are hoping to farm and ranch. BTW it was his wife’s idea to do this. Where can I find a woman like that? 😂. Forgot to mention he works remotely so as long as he has a cell connection he is golden.
Thanksgiving = sharing!  Especially of ammo and guns. . .  ;D

Not doing my normal Thanksgiving this year.  My sister is diabetic, so she and her husband playing it safe.  I have been going over there the last handful of years.  I have other plans this year, but just different.  I can "bless" others with my presence. . .  :rofl:

Whew, that is far better than "Who the hell are you?"    jes jerkin' yer chain. 

Happy for you both, vision is everything.  My hearing is shot, but with good eyes, i miss nothing but noise.
Bwahahahaha!  :rofl:

Inspector: Hi honey!
Mrs. AHHHHH!!! What have you done with Dave!!!




Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 20, 2020, 03:29:29 PM
I said no MASS fraud.  I've never said there was zero fraud.  At least get your facts right if you want to insult me.
News has become opinion. Your sources are very different from ours. Might want to look at both sides.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 20, 2020, 03:35:30 PM
Whew, that is far better than "Who the hell are you?"    jes jerkin' yer chain. 

Happy for you both, vision is everything.  My hearing is shot, but with good eyes, i miss nothing but noise.
My hearing is shot, too. But I got the tinnitus. So I hear hissing and whistling and weird shit constantly. Once in a while it is so loud I can’t sleep. With glasses my eyes are still pretty good. Since I have been practicing a lot I have been shooting pretty good lately.

You and the wife should take a trip out here. Even with the cold the weather has been terrific. Got up to the low 70’s today. Took my wife to her follow visit up after surgery yesterday. Went shooting. Cleaned my guns. Went out and bought beer, 2 boxes of 22 mags and a cartridge for my label maker. Oh and I processed a couple hundred 9mm cases for reloading. Ordered a pizza, been drinking the beer I bought and now we are sitting down to watch the Mandalorian. Life don’t get much better than this.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 20, 2020, 03:42:27 PM
Well, just wanted to be sure your blood pressure wasn't going up. I deal with some difficult people and mines boils over at times. My wife puts her hand on my back and says honey, just cam down.

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😂. My wife is always reminding me about “Aloha”. People honk their horns over here. I still don’t. I don’t use my finger either. And I do what I learned when I live on the big island. I always drive the speed limit no matter how slow it is and don’t let anyone pass me. 😂😂😂
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 20, 2020, 03:46:44 PM
Thanksgiving = sharing!  Especially of ammo and guns. . .  ;D

Not doing my normal Thanksgiving this year.  My sister is diabetic, so she and her husband playing it safe.  I have been going over there the last handful of years.  I have other plans this year, but just different.  I can "bless" others with my presence. . .  :rofl:
Bwahahahaha!  :rofl:

Inspector: Hi honey!
Mrs. AHHHHH!!! What have you done with Dave!!!
Come on out! We got spare bedroom. Just gotta share with the cat. 😂

Got plenty guns and ammo to share.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 20, 2020, 03:55:41 PM
Come on out! We got spare bedroom. Just gotta share with the cat. 😂

Got plenty guns and ammo to share.
cats are assholes  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 20, 2020, 05:30:09 PM
. My wife is always reminding me about “Aloha”. People honk their horns over here. I still don’t. I don’t use my finger either. And I do what I learned when I live on the big island. I always drive the speed limit no matter how slow it is and don’t let anyone pass me.
Good for you. I'm not there yet, 6 more years with city. Not sure if was the best thing to do. Alot of red tape and BS from people in charge that don't know what they're doing. I take issue when their decision could harm or kill someone. Just gone thru third nerve palsy early this year from stupid stuff work. That seem to be the only stress causing it. I took 2 1/2 weeks off, ah peace. I'll PM you later, my grandfather is from Pahoa and my sister lives in Kaumana. She teaches Hawaiian language at Kamehameha.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 20, 2020, 05:55:06 PM
Back to topic...

Michigan's Wayne County certification is such a clusterf*ck!

https://youtu.be/zGiN_JWv7WI
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 20, 2020, 05:56:34 PM
https://www.cnsnews.com/index.php/blog/lucy-collins/levin-quantity-fraud-not-test

Night time reading!

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 20, 2020, 05:57:03 PM
Back to topic...

Michigan's Wayne County certification is such a clusterf*ck!

https://youtu.be/zGiN_JWv7WI
Sorry!

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 20, 2020, 08:44:45 PM
There are more than 1 types of fraud. Dominion is 1, dead people voting, stolen ballots, filled out ballots for someone not knowing whats going on, etc...

All GA did was count the existing votes. They should have done an audit. Match mail in signatures, confirm registered voters, etc... By them just recounting, one should not expect a different result. Easy to add in ballots that will still get counted.

Lose the envelopes mail in ballots came in, makes it easier to hide the above.

If 1 can mail in vote, then a mail in drug test is g2g too right.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 21, 2020, 01:37:03 AM
cats are assholes  :rofl:
Actually she’s pretty chill. I have an old friend who had a cat that was a real asshole. It would walk up to you for no reason and just bite you and run and hide like it was a game. She finally had to find it another home because as the cat grew up it became an even bigger asshole. It started to take a dump anywhere in the house it wanted to.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 21, 2020, 01:54:25 AM
Good for you. I'm not there yet, 6 more years with city. Not sure if was the best thing to do. Alot of red tape and BS from people in charge that don't know what they're doing. I take issue when their decision could harm or kill someone. Just gone thru third nerve palsy early this year from stupid stuff work. That seem to be the only stress causing it. I took 2 1/2 weeks off, ah peace. I'll PM you later, my grandfather is from Pahoa and my sister lives in Kaumana. She teaches Hawaiian language at Kamehameha.

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Good for you. I hope you get to retirement without any physical problems. I beat my body all to hell for my work and a motorcycle accident back in the 80’s are all taking their toll now on me. I hope the City has been funding your retirement. My friends that retired about 5 years before me get their pension from CalPers which is in big trouble of not being able to make their payments to retirees. They are literally panicking right now.

I had to look up “third nerve palsy”. I am sorry that happened to you. Especially if it caused by stress from work. That really sucks. At least you got some time off to relax and rejuvenate. I hope that helped you.

When we lived on the Big Island we rented a house and lived in Fern Acres and had a house in Ocean View. I worked in Hilo for Yamada and Sons. I used to drive back and forth to do work on the house on the weekends. And of course I would go through Pahoa all the time. Beautiful town and a beautiful drive. My favorite weekends were when the wife and I needed to do our Costco shopping once a month. We would drive Kona side and do our shopping and spend the rest of the day on the beach. We would have lunch somewhere and then ice cream. It was really some of the best time of our lives living there.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 21, 2020, 07:51:11 AM
According to Tim Pool, the Federal Election Commission (FEC) chair, Trey Trainor, said there is fraud and called the presidential election “illegitimate”.

Mainstream Media: *crickets*

https://youtu.be/hAbMnv_dt2w
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 21, 2020, 08:50:44 AM
According to Tim Pool, the Federal Election Commission (FEC) chair, Trey Trainor, said there is fraud and called the presidential election “illegitimate”.

Mainstream Media: *crickets*

https://youtu.be/hAbMnv_dt2w
Good analogy. Thanks!
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 21, 2020, 11:10:40 AM
All from Mark Levin:

(https://i.imgur.com/0OcQch1.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/lF3bHZG.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/cdSFVvM.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/2AYD1zi.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/7m8woT7.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/TPqWrYJ.png)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 21, 2020, 11:16:54 AM
All from Mark Levin:

(https://i.imgur.com/0OcQch1.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/lF3bHZG.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/cdSFVvM.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/2AYD1zi.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/7m8woT7.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/TPqWrYJ.png)
Did we have dominion machines here? I voted in person at Honolulu Hale thinking of getting around the fraud. And boy did those machines look alot like dominion machines.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 21, 2020, 11:26:58 AM
https://theamericanconservatives.net/may-have-to-get-witness-protection-sidney-powell-gives-big-update-on-election-investigations/

More bombs dropping out of the sky!

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on November 21, 2020, 11:42:14 AM
cats are assholes  :rofl:
So am I.

Maybe why I cohabit with five of them right now.   They try to keep me sane.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 21, 2020, 12:06:55 PM
Did we have dominion machines here? I voted in person at Honolulu Hale thinking of getting around the fraud. And boy did those machines look alot like dominion machines.

One of the allegations from Trump's lawyers is: they had the code reviewed and found a "feature" where you can set a numerical value for each candidate's votes to be greater or less than 1.0.  For instances, A Biden vote might add 1.25 to the tally, and 0.75 for each Trump vote.  So, even though the NUMBER of votes comes up right (100 counted out of 100 ballots, for example),  The tally of actual presidential votes, if split evenly, would be 1.25 * 50 = 62.50 for Biden, and 0.75 * 50 = 37.5 for Trump.  If the algorithm were set to round Biden up and Trump down, the tally would be 63 for Biden and 37 for Trump. That adds up to 100, but the 50:50 split comes out with Biden getting 25% more and Trump 25% less than half -- a swing of roughly 50% in the margin.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 21, 2020, 12:42:59 PM
One of the allegations from Trump's lawyers is: they had the code reviewed and found a "feature" where you can set a numerical value for each candidate's votes to be greater or less than 1.0.  For instances, A Biden vote might add 1.25 to the tally, and 0.75 for each Trump vote.  So, even though the NUMBER of votes comes up right (100 counted out of 100 ballots, for example),  The tally of actual presidential votes, if split evenly, would be 1.25 * 50 = 62.50 for Biden, and 0.75 * 50 = 37.5 for Trump.  If the algorithm were set to round Biden up and Trump down, the tally would be 63 for Biden and 37 for Trump. That adds up to 100, but the 50:50 split comes out with Biden getting 25% more and Trump 25% less than half -- a swing of roughly 50% in the margin.

But the hand count disproves that in Georgia....unless ofc they only want to fraud some states and Georgia flipping was just as planned....
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 21, 2020, 12:45:08 PM
But the hand count disproves that in Georgia....unless ofc they only want to fraud some states and Georgia flipping was just as planned....
Once again they were having problems with fraud. Still going through the process.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: groveler on November 21, 2020, 01:00:15 PM
Did we have dominion machines here? I voted in person at Honolulu Hale thinking of getting around the fraud. And boy did those machines look alot like dominion machines.

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This is Hawaii.  The only people that vote here
are government and union employees, the majority of
workers in the state.  Add in a Few Republicans for show.
The only choice we get is which Democrat party member
do we get to vote for?  Even in "non-partisan" races.
Many people have given up voting and it shows.
No need to cheat.
Hawaii is run like a third world Banana Republic shithole that
happens to be lucky enough to be an American state.

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 21, 2020, 01:09:22 PM
But the hand count disproves that in Georgia....unless ofc they only want to fraud some states and Georgia flipping was just as planned....

When they say they did a hand count, it means they grabbed ballots and sorted into piles by candidate marked.

Did you miss the Veritas video where an observer said 3 ballots in a couple of minuted were misidentified as being for Biden, and when handed to the "verifier", the second person placed it in the Biden stack without even looking at it?

Pardon me if I don't have the same level of confidence in a hand count done by the same cheaters who would possibly use a machine rigged to change the tallies.

When the observer got a supervisor to intervene after reporting it TWICE, he started being eyeballed and harassed for reporting what he saw.

If they can't (won't) count ballots accurately by hand, the outcome is just as suspect as the machine count.

https://youtu.be/-6kzouJnrRQ
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 21, 2020, 01:25:02 PM
When they say they did a hand count, it means they grabbed ballots and sorted into piles by candidate marked.

Did you miss the Veritas video where an observer said 3 ballots in a couple of minuted were misidentified as being for Biden, and when handed to the "verifier", the second person placed it in the Biden stack without even looking at it?

Pardon me if I don't have the same level of confidence in a hand count done by the same cheaters who would possibly use a machine rigged to change the tallies.

When the observer got a supervisor to intervene after reporting it TWICE, he started being eyeballed and harassed for reporting what he saw.

If they can't (won't) count ballots accurately by hand, the outcome is just as suspect as the machine count.

https://youtu.be/-6kzouJnrRQ

At what point do you trust the system?  IF only republicans count?  But they can do fraud too.  Then what?  No system is perfect, but I say once again there is no mass fraud.  Small things like you pointed out if proven true (video has a guy talking no evidence of the person doing it)  is horrible but does not invalidate an entire election.  The person should be reprimanded and banned from future elections, if that's the case.   You complain when machines count, you complain when people count,  do you just want to complain because you didn't win?  Sounds like the democrats in 2016.  No election is perfect there was fraud in 2016 (when trump won), hopefully looks like less fraud in 2020.  Each year hopefully we get less fraud.  But as of this year all large scale theories on fraud have been disproven that I know of.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 21, 2020, 01:34:21 PM
At what point do you trust the system?  IF only republicans count?  But they can do fraud too.  Then what?  No system is perfect, but I say once again there is no mass fraud.  Small things like you pointed out if proven true (video has a guy talking no evidence of the person doing it)  is horrible but does not invalidate an entire election.  The person should be reprimanded and banned from future elections, if that's the case.   You complain when machines count, you complain when people count,  do you just want to complain because you didn't win?  Sounds like the democrats in 2016.  No election is perfect there was fraud in 2016 (when trump won), hopefully looks like less fraud in 2020.  Each year hopefully we get less fraud.  But as of this year all large scale theories on fraud have been disproven that I know of.

The misdirection is strong with this one
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 21, 2020, 01:40:43 PM
At what point do you trust the system?  IF only republicans count?  But they can do fraud too.  Then what?  No system is perfect, but I say once again there is no mass fraud.  Small things like you pointed out if proven true (video has a guy talking no evidence of the person doing it)  is horrible but does not invalidate an entire election.  The person should be reprimanded and banned from future elections, if that's the case.   You complain when machines count, you complain when people count,  do you just want to complain because you didn't win?  Sounds like the democrats in 2016.  No election is perfect there was fraud in 2016 (when trump won), hopefully looks like less fraud in 2020.  Each year hopefully we get less fraud.  But as of this year all large scale theories on fraud have been disproven that I know of.

No, dumbass.

Maybe INCLUDING Republicans in the process AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW would be a good start.

Are you really this blind, or just here to cause disruption?
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(Rhetorical question)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 21, 2020, 01:50:06 PM
At what point do you trust the system?  IF only republicans count?  But they can do fraud too.  Then what?  No system is perfect, but I say once again there is no mass fraud.  Small things like you pointed out if proven true (video has a guy talking no evidence of the person doing it)  is horrible but does not invalidate an entire election.  The person should be reprimanded and banned from future elections, if that's the case.   You complain when machines count, you complain when people count,  do you just want to complain because you didn't win?  Sounds like the democrats in 2016.  No election is perfect there was fraud in 2016 (when trump won), hopefully looks like less fraud in 2020.  Each year hopefully we get less fraud.  But as of this year all large scale theories on fraud have been disproven that I know of.

Hey, stupid, maybe you need to start being more specific in your phrasiology.

You dismiss witness accounts as "without evidence."

Witness testimony is, in and of itself, EVIDENCE.  It's not PHYSICAL evidence, but it's still an eyewitness account of the actions, words or other facts based on their recollection.  If TWO or more people testify to the same facts, that's called corroborated testimony.  Most courts only need on corroborating witness to remove doubt that the testimony was true.

It's up to the listener to determine if the testimony is credible.  It's obvious anything you don't already believe is going to be dismissed without high def audio & video, physical evidence (ballots sitting in the wrong pile verified by an independent auditor), tested by a climate change scientist (since those are the only true scientists), and a confession from the person or people being accused.

Just stop arguing.  We know your position before you even start typing.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 21, 2020, 01:53:24 PM
At what point do you trust the system?  IF only republicans count?  But they can do fraud too.  Then what?  No system is perfect, but I say once again there is no mass fraud.  Small things like you pointed out if proven true (video has a guy talking no evidence of the person doing it)  is horrible but does not invalidate an entire election.  The person should be reprimanded and banned from future elections, if that's the case.   You complain when machines count, you complain when people count,  do you just want to complain because you didn't win?  Sounds like the democrats in 2016.  No election is perfect there was fraud in 2016 (when trump won), hopefully looks like less fraud in 2020.  Each year hopefully we get less fraud.  But as of this year all large scale theories on fraud have been disproven that I know of.

You know you've gone from
"No evidence of fruad" to
"No evidence of WIDE SPREAD fraud" to
"No evidence of ENOUGH fraud to overturn the election.?"

Each time you change to a new qualifier, you're admitting you were wrong already -- more than once.  To keep moving the goal posts -- which is exactly what you are doing -- proves one thing:  you'll never accept the truth as long as there remains the thinnest thread of doubt that you can tie your beliefs to.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 21, 2020, 01:56:10 PM
This is what it feels like to debate lefties on election integrity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSUXXzN26zg
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 21, 2020, 02:00:57 PM
You know you've gone from
"No evidence of fruad" to
"No evidence of WIDE SPREAD fraud" to
"No evidence of ENOUGH fraud to overturn the election.?"

Each time you change to a new qualifier, you're admitting you were wrong already -- more than once.  To keep moving the goal posts -- which is exactly what you are doing -- proves one thing:  you'll never accept the truth as long as there remains the thinnest thread of doubt that you can tie your beliefs to.

No evidence of widespread fraud,  I remain that.  No backtracking.  I stick to my position.  Zero fraud was a false claim because there is never an election with ZERO fraud.  That was my bad.  And I quickly clarified my position.

There is NO EVIDENCE OF WIDESPREAD FRAUD.  Which equates to enough fraud to overturn an election. Without mass fraud there is no way to overturn the current election results. They are the same statement.  If there was 1000 people who committed fraud theoretically.  That is never enough to overturn any election with the current margins.  I stand by this statement 100%.  Until disproven in Courts. 

 
Hey, stupid, maybe you need to start being more specific in your phrasiology.

You dismiss witness accounts as "without evidence."

Witness testimony is, in and of itself, EVIDENCE.  It's not PHYSICAL evidence, but it's still an eyewitness account of the actions, words or other facts based on their recollection.  If TWO or more people testify to the same facts, that's called corroborated testimony.  Most courts only need on corroborating witness to remove doubt that the testimony was true.

It's up to the listener to determine if the testimony is credible.  It's obvious anything you don't already believe is going to be dismissed without high def audio & video, physical evidence (ballots sitting in the wrong pile verified by an independent auditor), tested by a climate change scientist (since those are the only true scientists), and a confession from the person or people being accused.

Just stop arguing.  We know your position before you even start typing.

Dude I literally bolded the proven true part....you can have "evidence" of anything.  Video tape a guy saying the moon landing was faked and that's technically "evidence"  is it true?  No...
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 21, 2020, 02:13:48 PM
No evidence of widespread fraud,  I remain that.  No backtracking.  I stick to my position.  Zero fraud was a false claim because there is never an election with ZERO fraud.  That was my bad.  And I quickly clarified my position.

There is NO EVIDENCE OF WIDESPREAD FRAUD.  Which equates to enough fraud to overturn an election. Without mass fraud there is no way to overturn the current election results. They are the same statement.  If there was 10000 people who committed fraud theoretically.  That is never enough to overturn any election with the current margins.  I stand by this statement 100%.  Until disproven in Courts. 

 
Dude I literally bolded the proven true part....you can have "evidence" of anything.  Video tape a guy saying the moon landing was faked and that's technically "evidence"  is it true?  No...

Are you saying widespread (or mass) fraud only exists if it is sufficient to change an election outcome?  Really?

Nobody is saying ANYWHERE there are enough "bad" ballots (due to fraud or ANYTHING ELSE) to over turn the state election for President.  But they HAVE overturned several state and local elections.  Is that not evidence of WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD, since we see elections being overturned?  Your definition, not mine.

One final point -- if the tallies in lower races were overturned due to recounts caused when they noticed machines switched Republican Votes to Democrat, does that not also call into question how a REPUBLICAN in a district was able to turn that race's seat RED, but the county still overwhelmingly voted for Biden?  Most voters are straight ticket voters.  You don't need EVIDENCE.  That's a fact that's been true since we've had political parties.

So, if more people in a county voted for a REPUBLICAN for state senator, let's say, and they normally vote straight party ticket, logic would lead us to predict that the winning candidate in the PRESIDENTIAL race would also be a Republican.

Yet, we see the exact opposite in many counties:  lower races went red, but presidential went blue.  even accounting for "independents" like yourself who voted for Biden and then the GOP candidate for other races, that would be against the norm -- already calculated in.

Nope, Trump should have taken many more counties that flipped RED, but he didn't.  Just one more thing to make us go "Hmmmm...."
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 21, 2020, 02:24:58 PM
No evidence of widespread fraud,  I remain that.  No backtracking.  I stick to my position.  Zero fraud was a false claim because there is never an election with ZERO fraud.  That was my bad.  And I quickly clarified my position.

There is NO EVIDENCE OF WIDESPREAD FRAUD.  Which equates to enough fraud to overturn an election. Without mass fraud there is no way to overturn the current election results. They are the same statement.  If there was 1000 people who committed fraud theoretically.  That is never enough to overturn any election with the current margins.  I stand by this statement 100%.  Until disproven in Courts. 

 
Dude I literally bolded the proven true part....you can have "evidence" of anything.  Video tape a guy saying the moon landing was faked and that's technically "evidence"  is it true?  No...

Unless you have EVIDENCE of voter fraud (the topic of this thread), or EVIDENCE that voter fraud doesn't exist (someone lied?  made up evidence?  proved Veritas paid them to make false claims on hidden camera? etc..), then you need to stop posting on this thread.  Arguing against EVERY SINGLE new bit of reported evidence not only drags this off topic, it's redundant.  You aren't saying anything that you haven't posted all the other times you were reminded to stop hijacking this thread.

You promised at least twice to stop, and yet here you are.  Your comments elicit responses which then elicit further off topic, repetitive ARGUMENTS (not new facts).

Just stop,

Thanks,

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 21, 2020, 02:43:33 PM
Unless you have EVIDENCE of voter fraud (the topic of this thread), or EVIDENCE that voter fraud doesn't exist (someone lied?  made up evidence?  proved Veritas paid them to make false claims on hidden camera? etc..), then you need to stop posting on this thread.  Arguing against EVERY SINGLE new bit of reported evidence not only drags this off topic, it's redundant.  You aren't saying anything that you haven't posted all the other times you were reminded to stop hijacking this thread.

You promised at least twice to stop, and yet here you are.  Your comments elicit responses which then elicit further off topic, repetitive ARGUMENTS (not new facts).

Just stop,

Thanks,
Maybe time to throw him back.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 21, 2020, 02:59:58 PM
https://theamericanconservatives.net/may-have-to-get-witness-protection-sidney-powell-gives-big-update-on-election-investigations/

More bombs dropping out of the sky!

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I hope what they said here is true. But I have to wait to see it before I’ll jump on that train. Saying it and bringing something substantial to court are two different things and I’ll be very happy if even half of it is true and provable. Thanks for this link.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 21, 2020, 04:10:40 PM
Very lengthy article. Of special interest to math nerds, but with explanations of the meaning of the mathematical evidence suitable for the non-numerically oriented.

Explosive: New Data From Rigorous Statistical Analysis Points to Voter Fraud in Montgomery County, PA

https://www.revolver.news/2020/11/explosive-new-data-from-rigorous-statistical-analysis-points-to-voter-fraud-in-montgomery-county-pa/

Executive Summary

We find considerable evidence consistent with the possibility of electoral fraud in vote counts in Montgomery County, PA.

In particular, we examine a highly anomalous update to mail vote totals in the NYT/Edison data which enormously benefited Biden, and which looks suspicious on a number of dimensions.

At a high level, our results are suggestive of a new and highly suspicious batch of mail ballots being added to the count sometime between Wednesday early morning and Thursday morning. These ballots are drawn from an implausible distribution that enormously favored Biden and simultaneously harmed Trump (the latter being done in addition by allocating more votes to Jorgensen). Said mail ballots end up being extremely different both from the mail ballots that came before (as measured in NYT data), and the mail ballots that came afterwards (as measured in the county’s own data).

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 21, 2020, 04:16:26 PM
Very lengthy article. Of special interest to math nerds, but with explanations of the meaning of the mathematical evidence suitable for the non-numerically oriented.

Explosive: New Data From Rigorous Statistical Analysis Points to Voter Fraud in Montgomery County, PA

https://www.revolver.news/2020/11/explosive-new-data-from-rigorous-statistical-analysis-points-to-voter-fraud-in-montgomery-county-pa/

Executive Summary

We find considerable evidence consistent with the possibility of electoral fraud in vote counts in Montgomery County, PA.

In particular, we examine a highly anomalous update to mail vote totals in the NYT/Edison data which enormously benefited Biden, and which looks suspicious on a number of dimensions.

At a high level, our results are suggestive of a new and highly suspicious batch of mail ballots being added to the count sometime between Wednesday early morning and Thursday morning. These ballots are drawn from an implausible distribution that enormously favored Biden and simultaneously harmed Trump (the latter being done in addition by allocating more votes to Jorgensen). Said mail ballots end up being extremely different both from the mail ballots that came before (as measured in NYT data), and the mail ballots that came afterwards (as measured in the county’s own data).

Sorry.  Evidence can't be based on math and science (statistics is actually a science).

If it can't be understood by people who disagree with the conclusions, it doesn't get to be called evidence.  That puts it squarely in the default column labeled "Conspiracy Theory".

 :crazy: :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 21, 2020, 05:00:42 PM
I hope what they said here is true. But I have to wait to see it before I’ll jump on that train. Saying it and bringing something substantial to court are two different things and I’ll be very happy if even half of it is true and provable. Thanks for this link.
She defended General Michael Flinn. I'll side with her to say I believe she's credible. But it still has to play out. Anything can happen at this point.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 21, 2020, 05:12:10 PM
"Evidence"

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/federal-election-commission-chairman-trump-campaign-bringing-legitimate

"The Trump campaign is bringing legitimate accusations to court through affidavits of credible witnesses and other evidence used in its challenges to electoral outcomes in various states", Federal Election Commission Chairman Trey Trainor said.

The "massive amounts of affidavits that we see in these cases show that there was in fact fraud that took place," said FEC Chairman Trey Trainor. "And the other side really needs to answer these questions."

Trainor said his review of evidence, including numerous affidavits claiming voter fraud and a sworn statement by a prominent mathematician flagging up to 100,000 Pennsylvania ballots, met the first level of legal scrutiny under what's known as motion to dismiss or Rule 12(b)(6) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which would dismiss less credible claims.

Noting the subsequent legal threshold beyond a motion to dismiss is the summary judgment phase, Trainor said that under this phase, the credibility of witnesses is presumed to be accurate, especially given the caliber of the testimonies Trainor has observed to date.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 21, 2020, 05:14:40 PM
She defended General Michael Flinn. I'll side with her to say I believe she's credible. But it still has to play out. Anything can happen at this point.

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Everyone on the talking head shows that bothered to discuss the ongoing election said she's one of the most successful lawyers in history because she represents clients who have the best cases.

If she says she sees smoke, you ought to go ahead and break out the wieners and marshmallows.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 21, 2020, 05:20:12 PM
Remember when the Democrats were demanding the process be delayed in order to completely investigate EVERY SINGLE ACCUSATION of criminal and unethical conduct made against Brett Kavanaugh over the last 30+ years?

Good times!   :geekdanc:

Now, the election results are "too important to delay" for an investigation into hundreds of accusation of criminal acts committed less than a month or two ago.  We'll do the investigation later, AFTER Biden gets sworn in.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 21, 2020, 05:32:47 PM
Sidney Powell tonight on NewsMax (19 minutes):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KgwuW_jX8A&feature=emb_err_woyt

Here's a 6 minute version of the highlights, embedded in a tweet:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1330339378892247043
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: groveler on November 21, 2020, 05:54:00 PM
Sorry.  Evidence can't be based on math and science (statistics is actually a science).

If it can't be understood by people who disagree with the conclusions, it doesn't get to be called evidence.  That puts it squarely in the default column labeled "Conspiracy Theory".

 :crazy: :geekdanc:
"Sorry.  Evidence can't be based on math and science (statistics is actually a science)"

I got an A- in "Sadistics" which is what I called it.
The history of the "science" was for gamblers to get an "edge".
That is not science, that is playing the odds in a given scenario
either now or the future.
That is Mathematics.
Science is observation, and testing forever.
Nothing is ever settled in Science.
In Mathematics,  you arrive at a solution.
that is it, till it fails.
Just saying.



Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 21, 2020, 06:25:41 PM
This is Hawaii.  The only people that vote here
are government and union employees, the majority of
workers in the state.  Add in a Few Republicans for show.
The only choice we get is which Democrat party member
do we get to vote for?  Even in "non-partisan" races.
Many people have given up voting and it shows.
No need to cheat.
Hawaii is run like a third world Banana Republic shithole that
happens to be lucky enough to be an American state.
You had to be at the rallies. In all my years living here, almost 60. I've never seen this kind of support for a president.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201122/0b7e617fdc5371aeb9e287974fe90e0b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201122/cc54916d8f8807b36fe405dca1028686.jpg)

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 21, 2020, 06:28:54 PM
Freedom!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201122/c3f4a1cdc10cab41b2225565f8340636.jpg)

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 21, 2020, 06:58:28 PM
"Sorry.  Evidence can't be based on math and science (statistics is actually a science)"

I got an A- in "Sadistics" which is what I called it.
The history of the "science" was for gamblers to get an "edge".
That is not science, that is playing the odds in a given scenario
either now or the future.
That is Mathematics.
Science is observation, and testing forever.
Nothing is ever settled in Science.
In Mathematics,  you arrive at a solution.
that is it, till it fails.
Just saying.

I disagree:  Statistics is a science.  But, like all sciences, it lends itself to fakery if in the wrong hands.  It is constantly evolving, just as any other science does, as technology and discoveries continue to be added to the disciplines.

Quote
Statistics, the science of collecting, analyzing, presenting, and interpreting data.

https://www.britannica.com/science/statistics

Science requires a well-established, provable and repeatable process that takes known and hypothesized data and seeks to discover the unknown.

With the advent of computer technology, many early theorems, principles, rules and formulas were finally able to be simulated. 

Since you mentioned gambling, many Black Jack "basic strategy" rules changed after statisticians were able to "play" millions of random hands in a short time, calculating the number of successes and failures out of millions of hands and using alternative decisions: Hit, Stand, Split, Double, Surrender or take insurance.  They also were able to calculate the variances based on changing table rules:  Dealer must hit soft 17, player can split only X number of times on one hand, BlackJack pays 3:2 versus even money unless suited ....

Atlantic City used to have worse rules for the players than Vegas.  The last time I went to Vegas, the BlackJack games had some really messed up rules except for 6-deck shoe tables, I assume rules they borrowed from AC.

Anyway, the hard part of statistics is developing a good sample.  Stats created on a fixed dataset is basically historical, but using a sample within stated parameters can be predictive (e.g. political polls).

You really can't segregate math from science anyway.  I think statistics, when used to simulate models of real world systems, like ATM and traffic queues, and, yes, the odds of drawing a heart to fill out a straight flush, are absolutely in the realm of science.  Applied Science is a "thing."   :geekdanc: :shaka:

"Random hands of Black Jack"...  Anyone who knows how computers generate random numbers knows there's really no such thing as a true random number created by a computer. But that's another subject.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 21, 2020, 07:10:44 PM

Jordan Sekulow on New Election Lawsuits: “What’s Coming in Georgia Will Be Shocking”…

Posted on November 21, 2020 by sundance

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/11/21/jordan-sekulow-on-new-election-lawsuits-whats-coming-in-georgia-will-be-shocking/

Jordan Sekulow appears with Tom Basile on NewsMax to discuss the current status of several election lawsuits.  Within the interview Sekulow notes that despite the election certification, a new lawsuit will be filed on Monday in Georgia that “will be stunning“.

The ACLJ lawyer states the lawsuit and attached evidence in the state of Georgia is unrelated to any currently known information, evidence or preceding lawsuits. The framework is entirely new. “Put-up or shut-up will be rolled out this week“…


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2Tsmrdbcyo&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 21, 2020, 07:15:21 PM


Unusual Pattern and Ratio Within Philadelphia Ballot Data Indicates Dominion Software Manipulation of Vote…

Posted on November 21, 2020 by sundance

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/11/21/unusual-pattern-and-ratio-within-philadelphia-ballot-data-indicates-dominion-software-manipulation-of-vote/

An interesting review of Philadelphia ballot uploading results indicates a pattern of manipulated results according to an independent researcher looking at raw data. The results are discussed within a video upload explaining how the data-sets were organized and manipulated in a series of timed events.

According to the analysis: “in this data, particular vote ratios are transferred between random sets of seized precincts throughout the day.”

“The Dominion System isolated a “Flip Set” from the expected vote count and the expected percentage. It then splices the Flip Set into multiple “ratio sets” and assigns them to precincts throughout the day. Once a particular “ratio set” receives the votes it needed, it releases that set, and then Dominion injects it into the city wide count.”

“To hide it’s trail, Dominion reassigns the same “ratio set” to different (random) precincts throughout the day, so that the same precinct doesn’t keep getting the exact same ratio (or the same set of precincts).”

Link to video on Rumble:

https://rumble.com/vbas2t-smoking-gun-dominion-transferring-vote-ratios-between-precincts-in-pa.-by-e.html

Smoking Gun: Dominion Transferring Vote Ratios between Precincts in PA. - By: Edward Solomon
2one3studio Published November 20, 2020

Rumble — In this video you will see data from the NYT feed from PA on November fourth.

In this data, particular vote ratios are transferred between random sets of seized precincts throughout the day (see image link below):
https://ibb.co/h1x3Xds

A total of nine exhibits are presented in this video, but there are in fact several hundred of these precincts seizures and ratio transfers on the day of November 4th alone, and the same ratios continue to be transferred for several more days within the overall dataset spanning an entire week.

Original data sets:
https://gofile.io/d/qZcQl6

"The Dominion System isolated a "Flip Set" from the expected vote count and the expected percentage.

It then splices the Flip Set into multiple "ratio sets" and assigns them to precincts throughout the day.

Once a particular "ratio set" receives the votes it needed, it releases that set, and then Dominion injects it into the city wide count.

To hide it's trail, Dominion reassigns the same "ratio set" to different (random) precincts throughout the day, so that the same precinct doesn't keep getting the exact same ratio (or the same set of precincts).

During a particular period of time while a precinct is selected, it gives Trumps an EXACT NUMBER of votes, it gives Biden a MINIMUM number of votes, and splits the small remainder to a third party or to Biden (via random assignment).

This explains why Jo Jorg got so many votes in every precinct (I'm a Libertarian and I know very few libertarians who voted for Jo this year, due to the importance of this monumental election)."
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 21, 2020, 07:51:32 PM
Side note,

My friend i went to vegas with is a stats major. He didnt understand how come i kept winning on roulette and he didnt. Black showed up like 4x in a row and kept coming. He didnt understand the "juju" which throws all math/stats to the curb.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 21, 2020, 09:27:18 PM
Side note,

My friend i went to vegas with is a stats major. He didnt understand how come i kept winning on roulette and he didnt. Black showed up like 4x in a row and kept coming. He didnt understand the "juju" which throws all math/stats to the curb.

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That's actually more of a "chaos theory" thing.  Roulette theory is based on a perfectly manufactured wheel, an absolutely spherical ball, a dealer who releases the ball with different amounts of force and at a different spot on the wheel, and no environmental forces affecting the outcome.

In reality, there are minor flaws from manufacturing, shipping, repairs, cleaning, maintenance and installation.  These factors can create a variety of imperfections that can, and do, make the wheel less random.

In short, if you see a wheel hitting the same number or group of numbers more than others, it's a good bet the wheel will continue that trend unless something changes. 

BTW, I watched a couple walk into Binion's Horseshoe to the roulette table on the other side of the Black Jack pit where I was sitting. He said, "Pick a number, Darlin' " and put $2,000 on that one number ......  and it HIT!!

Who needs a system?   :rofl:   :wtf:   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 22, 2020, 02:03:34 AM
Jordan Sekulow on New Election Lawsuits: “What’s Coming in Georgia Will Be Shocking”…

Posted on November 21, 2020 by sundance

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/11/21/jordan-sekulow-on-new-election-lawsuits-whats-coming-in-georgia-will-be-shocking/

Jordan Sekulow appears with Tom Basile on NewsMax to discuss the current status of several election lawsuits.  Within the interview Sekulow notes that despite the election certification, a new lawsuit will be filed on Monday in Georgia that “will be stunning“.

The ACLJ lawyer states the lawsuit and attached evidence in the state of Georgia is unrelated to any currently known information, evidence or preceding lawsuits. The framework is entirely new. “Put-up or shut-up will be rolled out this week“…


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2Tsmrdbcyo&feature=emb_logo
I tried to post this video last night and the damn Newsmax app kept crashing on me.

Until I watched this video last night, I didn’t know the Seklow’s and the ACLJ were on Trump’s legal team for this. I am with whomever said above if Sidney Powell is on the team it lends a lot of credit to the case being winnable. I feel the same way with the Sekulows and the ACLJ. The ACLJ and the father Jay Sekulow has a lot of experience bringing cases in front of the SCOTUS. And they have a terrific winning record in front of SCOTUS. Knowing this I feel much more energized that there is real tangible evidence. Not just eye witness, sworn affidavit evidence. And that there actually may be enough to stop the certification of a fraudulent election.

Now we have to wait for the first of the lawsuits that Jordan Sekulow said is going to be filed on Monday or Tuesday. I’m guessing we will see some real evidence in that lawsuit. Man, I feel much more confident that election tampering will be able to be proven on a scale large enough to effect the results. I hope my feelings are right.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 22, 2020, 04:56:50 AM
I tried to post this video last night and the damn Newsmax app kept crashing on me.

Until I watched this video last night, I didn’t know the Seklow’s and the ACLJ were on Trump’s legal team for this. I am with whomever said above if Sidney Powell is on the team it lends a lot of credit to the case being winnable. I feel the same way with the Sekulows and the ACLJ. The ACLJ and the father Jay Sekulow has a lot of experience bringing cases in front of the SCOTUS. And they have a terrific winning record in front of SCOTUS. Knowing this I feel much more energized that there is real tangible evidence. Not just eye witness, sworn affidavit evidence. And that there actually may be enough to stop the certification of a fraudulent election.

Now we have to wait for the first of the lawsuits that Jordan Sekulow said is going to be filed on Monday or Tuesday. I’m guessing we will see some real evidence in that lawsuit. Man, I feel much more confident that election tampering will be able to be proven on a scale large enough to effect the results. I hope my feelings are right.

I think so, too, but it get's better.  I stopped thinking a long time ago, even before election day, that there doesn't have to be fraud or tampering to the degree that it changed the outcome.  If they can show that the election was in violation of the Constitution, then the electoral votes should not be accepted, and Congress should be tasked with choosing the President and VP.  Trump's team has at least two Constitutional challenges as I see it. 

One challenge would be the way the election rules were changed by the State Supreme Court or other office besides the legislature.  The Constitution says that the rules of states' elections must be decided upon by the legislature.  The founders did this precisely so the rules are set by the people through their representatives.  Allowing any other body or individual to make the rules puts the outcome of the election at the whim of judges, Secretaries of State, Governors, unelected officials (elections directors), etc.  None of those represent the people insofar as the Constitution recognizes them.  We know PA courts changed the rules just days before election day, allowing additional time for mail-in ballots to arrive.  Not their right to do that.  Since the state also ignored Supreme Court injunctions to segregate the late ballots from the on-time ones, there's no way to correct that in the ballot count.  The damage is irreversible.

Another challenge is the 14th Amendment's equal protection under the law.  In 2000, the Bush legal team used this to successfully argue that elections must be conducted evenly and fairly among all presidential candidates and parties.  In Florida, the recount was one-sided, allowing only counties that leaned heavily Democrat to be recounted.  During the recount, ballots that were originally not included in vote totals by virtue of them having errors were being reexamined manually to ascertain what the voters' INTENTIONS were.  If the ballot failed to be processed because they made stray marks, failed to punch "chads" completely, or didn't vote for the race at all because they were confused by the layout of the ballot ("Butterfly Ballots"), or voted for too many candidates in a race, the examiner would make a judgement call in the one race -- the Presidential race -- to decipher whether the voter "intended" to mark the ballot for Gore or Bush.

Since these formerly spoiled or unreadable ballots were being resurrected only in counties that might help Gore, the Supreme Court ruled that the recount must include ALL counties regardless of party "leanings", or the recount would be invalid.  That decision came down just 2 hours before the deadline to certify the state election results.  Obviously, a full Florida statewide recount was impossible in 2 hours, so the whole recount that took over a month's effort was halted and the results never used.  The original numbers from before any recounts began were used, and Bush became the President Elect ... again!

This election, there are accusations that ballots which had errors in Democrat-leaning counties or precincts were being remedied by workers contacting the voters.  If it was a mail-in (most were), then the mismatched or missing signature, missing date, miss-marked ballot, or other mistakes were corrected so the ballot would count.  In Republican-leaning areas, the option to contact voters and correct ballots was not being offered as an option to the workers.  Sounds awfully close to the same unequal treatment of ballots as happened in 2000.  You can't spoil one party's ballots while correcting another party's.

There are all kinds of examples of how a few states, mainly PA, MI and WI, violated the Constitution as well as their own state laws.  A big one is refusing to allow GOP observers in the counting areas.  One party was allowed to run the counting (Democrat-run government) while the other party was excluded from observing and ensuring the rules were followed.  Again, this sounds like a 14th Amendment violation.  Can't give parties different treatment, even if (especially if) your party is running the state.

The best outcome for Trump would be for the Supreme Court to order the election be given to Congress to decide.  Having an electoral college perform the selection of president would be unfair if they allowed a few swing states to certify tainted results, and the electoral votes wound be incomplete if they let fewer than 50 states meet in the electoral college.  Giving it to Congress at least includes reps from all 50 states.

This is going to be an election for the history books, making 2016 look like a normal election by comparison.

Fun fact:  Chief Justice John Roberts and Associate Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett all worked on the Bush legal team that argued the Florida recount cases in Gore v. Bush.  It's going to be pretty interesting to see lawyers for Trump standing before that group arguing nearly the same facts and Constitutional points of law that they themselves argued 20 years ago.   :geekdanc: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 22, 2020, 06:26:54 AM
I think so, too, but it get's better.  I stopped thinking a long time ago, even before election day, that there doesn't have to be fraud or tampering to the degree that it changed the outcome.  If they can show that the election was in violation of the Constitution, then the electoral votes should not be accepted, and Congress should be tasked with choosing the President and VP.  Trump's team has at least two Constitutional challenges as I see it. 

One challenge would be the way the election rules were changed by the State Supreme Court or other office besides the legislature.  The Constitution says that the rules of states' elections must be decided upon by the legislature.  The founders did this precisely so the rules are set by the people through their representatives.  Allowing any other body or individual to make the rules puts the outcome of the election at the whim of judges, Secretaries of State, Governors, unelected officials (elections directors), etc.  None of those represent the people insofar as the Constitution recognizes them.  We know PA courts changed the rules just days before election day, allowing additional time for mail-in ballots to arrive.  Not their right to do that.  Since the state also ignored Supreme Court injunctions to segregate the late ballots from the on-time ones, there's no way to correct that in the ballot count.  The damage is irreversible.

Another challenge is the 14th Amendment's equal protection under the law.  In 2000, the Bush legal team used this to successfully argue that elections must be conducted evenly and fairly among all presidential candidates and parties.  In Florida, the recount was one-sided, allowing only counties that leaned heavily Democrat to be recounted.  During the recount, ballots that were originally not included in vote totals by virtue of them having errors were being reexamined manually to ascertain what the voters' INTENTIONS were.  If the ballot failed to be processed because they made stray marks, failed to punch "chads" completely, or didn't vote for the race at all because they were confused by the layout of the ballot ("Butterfly Ballots"), or voted for too many candidates in a race, the examiner would make a judgement call in the one race -- the Presidential race -- to decipher whether the voter "intended" to mark the ballot for Gore or Bush.

Since these formerly spoiled or unreadable ballots were being resurrected only in counties that might help Gore, the Supreme Court ruled that the recount must include ALL counties regardless of party "leanings", or the recount would be invalid.  That decision came down just 2 hours before the deadline to certify the state election results.  Obviously, a full Florida statewide recount was impossible in 2 hours, so the whole recount that took over a month's effort was halted and the results never used.  The original numbers from before any recounts began were used, and Bush became the President Elect ... again!

This election, there are accusations that ballots which had errors in Democrat-leaning counties or precincts were being remedied by workers contacting the voters.  If it was a mail-in (most were), then the mismatched or missing signature, missing date, miss-marked ballot, or other mistakes were corrected so the ballot would count.  In Republican-leaning areas, the option to contact voters and correct ballots was not being offered as an option to the workers.  Sounds awfully close to the same unequal treatment of ballots as happened in 2000.  You can't spoil one party's ballots while correcting another party's.

There are all kinds of examples of how a few states, mainly PA, MI and WI, violated the Constitution as well as their own state laws.  A big one is refusing to allow GOP observers in the counting areas.  One party was allowed to run the counting (Democrat-run government) while the other party was excluded from observing and ensuring the rules were followed.  Again, this sounds like a 14th Amendment violation.  Can't give parties different treatment, even if (especially if) your party is running the state.

The best outcome for Trump would be for the Supreme Court to order the election be given to Congress to decide.  Having an electoral college perform the selection of president would be unfair if they allowed a few swing states to certify tainted results, and the electoral votes wound be incomplete if they let fewer than 50 states meet in the electoral college.  Giving it to Congress at least includes reps from all 50 states.

This is going to be an election for the history books, making 2016 look like a normal election by comparison.

Fun fact:  Chief Justice John Roberts and Associate Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett all worked on the Bush legal team that argued the Florida recount cases in Gore v. Bush.  It's going to be pretty interesting to see lawyers for Trump standing before that group arguing nearly the same facts and Constitutional points of law that they themselves argued 20 years ago.   :geekdanc: :thumbsup:
I am certainly feeling much more optimistic this morning. The ACLJ does great work as well as Judicial Watch. The ACLJ are constitutional lawyers and not ambulance chasers like Gloria Allred. Excuse me if I don’t trust lawyers much. I am sure Sidney Powell is a great lawyer but I don’t know enough about her to have the confidence in her like I do the ACLJ. And so far much of what Giuliani has been saying about the Biden’s has not come to fruition. I do a lot of research on the Internet and the ACLJ is a serious non profit organization. The thing I have to keep reminding myself about is that the ACLJ is working on the constitutional side of election tampering and Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani is working on the Dominion vote tampering side. They will be filing separate lawsuits in the same states I assume. Alleging what ever evidence they have. I have a strange feeling that the server in Germany that was confiscated is in the hands of Trump’s team as it as reported that the military did the confiscation and not the CIA. I don’t think the FBI or the CIA are trustworthy at this point. I believe the evidence they have came from that server or another source or both. That would be huge if they are able to present it in a way that can be understood. I don’t blame either team for tipping their hand as to evidence so we’ll just have to wait and see.

I think you are right about the path that Trump and his 2 legal teams need to take. Of course the ultimate goal is to get to the bottom of the election and vote tampering and the corruption because we want fair elections. No matter what the outcome is. Any real American would want all allegations of fraud to be investigated no matter what the outcome. I am hoping that if the allegations are true that we will find out the extent of it and expose it what its worth. And I want anyone who committed any crimes to be brought to justice. The fact that the Dominion guys are running scared doesn’t add to their claim of fair voting practices. It does just the opposite. It appears to me they have something to hide. I want to know the truth. Just like any real American would.

What I want to see out of all of this is the truth. No matter what it is. We need to be able to trust our election process and if we can’t then whoever can cheat the most is the winner. And I have a feeling the Republicans are not as good at it as the Democrats are.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 22, 2020, 08:07:29 AM
Very brief commentary simply making the point that affidavits, sworn under penalty of perjury, are "evidence" in a court of law. This is a response to the MSM talking heads that incessantly spew "there is no evidence", "unfounded allegations", etc. Whether that evidence is sufficient to challenge various election results will be determined by the courts.

There is evidence, actually

https://spectator.us/evidence-actually-rudy-giuliani-voter-fraud/

Excerpt:

Giuliani did in fact present evidence of voter fraud today but many people simply didn’t want to hear it. He cited multiple Americans, one by name, who have signed sworn affidavits stating that they witness some type of fraud, whether it was pro-Trump ballots being thrown out without cause, ballots being backdated to before the election, poll workers being told not to ask voters for identification, and more.

As Giuliani helpfully pointed out, affidavits are considered ‘evidence’ in a court case. Whether you agree or disagree with them is a different question. And it’s reasonable that not all of the people who signed their names would be willing to go public. If you want to hear more of the evidence that was presented, just watch the first hour or so of the press conference.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 22, 2020, 12:52:51 PM
Just like Dallas Jones in TX (the Biden Campaign Director in that area), 2 men in California have been charged with 41 counts of VOTER FRAUD, after fraudulently registering 8,000 homeless people to vote.

The intent was to cheat in the Mayor of Hawthorne race in Los Angeles County.

EVIDENCE of

WIDESPREAD

VOTER FRAUD

SUFFICIENT TO CHANGE ELECTION OUTCOME.

Not necessarily a presidential election issue, since CA would never go for Trump, but is stealing a local election any better than stealing a federal election?  It still shows VOTER FRAUD.

https://youtu.be/Oe0iMw_W96I
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 22, 2020, 12:59:36 PM
Trump Requests Georgia Recount, Meaning
5 Million Votes Will Be Tabulated A 3rd Time


Quote
Georgia's nearly 5 million votes in the presidential race will be counted for a third time, as
President Trump's campaign has formally asked for a recount because his loss is within
the legal margin for that request.

Of the 4,998,482 ballots cast in the race between Trump and President-elect Joe Biden, the
president lost by 12,670 votes, or about 0.26 percentage points. State law allows a losing
candidate within 0.5 percentage points to ask for a recount within two business days of certification.

While thousands of workers spent most of the last week hand-counting every vote as part of
a newly required statewide risk-limiting audit, this recount will be different.

The law calls for a recount to be conducted by retabulating every ballot through a scanner, the
same way they were originally counted in the days following the Nov. 3 election.

Trump's campaign and his allies have launched a continuous stream of attacks against the
election integrity in states that he lost, including Georgia, where the voting laws and procedures
have been enacted and governed by fellow Republicans.

In a statement announcing the recount, the Trump campaign demanded that it include signature
matching of absentee ballots, despite repeated explanations from Secretary of State Brad
Raffensperger's office that fulfilling such a request is illegal and impossible.

"Let's stop giving the People false results," the Trump campaign said without offering any evidence.
"There must be a time when we stop counting illegal ballots."

https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-transition-updates/2020/11/22/937739336/trump-requests-georgia-recount-meaning-5-million-votes-will-be-tabulated-a-3rd-t
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 22, 2020, 02:04:40 PM
https://conservativetoday.org/rumors-fly-that-server-seized-in-raid-shows-trump-actually-got-410-electoral-votes-media-panics/

Darn conspiracy theorist, there they go again.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Brystont1 on November 22, 2020, 02:27:23 PM
?igshid=1i1xxey9i38gc

Wtf Is going on.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 22, 2020, 02:28:12 PM
https://conservativetoday.org/rumors-fly-that-server-seized-in-raid-shows-trump-actually-got-410-electoral-votes-media-panics/

Darn conspiracy theorist, there they go again.

Hillary's email server containing classified information was a conspiracy theory for years, ....

... until it was proven.

Hillary said her husband's affair was part of a "vast right wing conspiracy."  Do you think she would have been censored on Social Media for saying that?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 22, 2020, 02:35:38 PM
Georgia (on my mind)
Servers
Recounts
Misconduct

I’m just waiting for one or more to emerge and catch fire. So many opportunities...

Yeah, what’s up with the Sidney Powell situation. Hmm... Kraken went missing?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 22, 2020, 02:38:36 PM
Wtf Is going on.

LOL!  Trump knows how to lead the press by the nose.  While they are busy trying to poke holes in his strategy, he's busy working on the real strategy behind the scenes.

Throw the media hounds some red meat, and they can't smell the hunters walking directly up the front steps.

Don't get distracted by the daily "buzz".  The media hasn't been right about anything involving Trump for 5 years.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 22, 2020, 02:43:16 PM
I do not believe Sidney would torpedo her own legacy, so my guess is she is about to blow the lid off the "gentlemen's club" of election fraud that both sides participate in, whereas the Trump team is only looking to overturn his current results. All parties cheat and the history is long and sordid, but there is a general agreement that it never goes beyond a certain level in order to avoid this very scenario. It could be that Team Trump is reluctant to let go of their own fraud apparatus and/or the GOP is warning them of the consequences of truly free and fair elections.

If there is a Reset in the future it should be the declaration of National Standards for National Elections. No more of this two bit back alley hustle. This is embarrassing.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 22, 2020, 03:31:38 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/3pb2seg.png)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 22, 2020, 03:54:11 PM
I'm not sure if this is evidence of possible election tampering/fraud, or just evidence that mentally-ill people voted overwhelmingly for Joe Biden.

BREAKING REPORT: Largest Number of Cluster Votes In Wayne Co. MI Came From Psychiatric Hospital For Patients With Severe Mental Illnesses

https://100percentfedup.com/breaking-report-largest-number-of-cluster-votes-in-wayne-co-mi-came-from-psychiatric-hospital-for-patients-with-severe-mental-illnessesand-more/

Excerpt:

Yesterday, data scientist Sarah Eaglesfield tweeted about some interesting facts she uncovered while looking into Wayne County, Michigan’s voter data from the November 2020 election. Her data, so far, explores cluster votes in Michigan’s Wayne County, where hundreds of affidavits have been filed sharing eye-witness accounts of voter fraud and intimidation by paid election workers and officials and Democrat activists present at the TCF Center, where absentee ballots were processed.

Eaglesfield’s tweet reads:

In order – clusters in Wayne County, Michigan with the most votes cast in #Election2020 were:

1. A psychiatric hospital (@NedStaebler is that you?)

2. Apartment block (but no apartment number)

3. A convent

4. THE FOUR SEASONS Care facility (really!)

5. Homeless drop-in centre

(https://i.imgur.com/D8SI3Md.png)

Full report address:

https://t.co/ySskhz52UH?amp=1
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 22, 2020, 03:59:39 PM
Giulliani going after constitutionality, and powell going after dominion fraud is my take.  Powell as not part of the official team has more leeway for her suit/investigation.

4D chess. Distract the media and they jump on it. So will the TDSers. Im sure my coworker will bring it up tomorrow. Just gotta wait and see


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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 22, 2020, 04:04:12 PM
Giulliani going after constitutionality, and powell going after dominion fraud is my take.  Powell as not part of the official team has more leeway for her suit/investigation.

4D chess. Distract the media and they jump on it. So will the TDSers. Im sure my coworker will bring it up tomorrow. Just gotta wait and see


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I could be wrong but it appeared to me that Giuliani and Powell were working on the Dominion stuff and the Sekulows and the ACLJ were working on the constitutionality stuff. Not that it’s really important but I think we need a scorecard to keep track.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 22, 2020, 07:46:19 PM
Mark Levin, on his show tonight, gets a little worked up about the misinformation and disinformation being spread about the evidence and lawsuits being filed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re66NZxEKyE
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 22, 2020, 08:05:15 PM
Georgia (on my mind)
Servers
Recounts
Misconduct

I’m just waiting for one or more to emerge and catch fire. So many opportunities...

Yeah, what’s up with the Sidney Powell situation. Hmm... Kraken went missing?
She starting with exposing Monday. It should be coming.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 22, 2020, 08:17:40 PM
Blackwell: The Greatest Electoral Heist in American History

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/11/21/blackwell-the-greatest-electoral-heist-in-american-history/

Ken Blackwell, former Secretary of State of Ohio, is the Distinguished Fellow for Human Rights and Constitutional Governance, at the Family Research Council. He served as United States Ambassador to the United Nations Human Rights Commission from 1990-1993.

Excerpt:

The pieces are finally coming together, and they reveal a masterpiece of electoral larceny involving Big Tech oligarchs, activists, and government officials who prioritize partisanship over patriotism.

The 2020 election was stolen because leftists were able to exploit the coronavirus pandemic to weaken, alter, and eliminate laws that were put in place over the course of decades to preserve the integrity of the ballot box. But just as importantly, it was stolen because those same leftists had a thoroughly-crafted plan, and because they were rigorous in its implementation and ruthless in its execution.

Let’s not forget that liberals have been consumed by a fixation with removing Donald Trump from office for longer than he’s actually been in office. The sordid story of the 2020 election heist begins all the way back in January 2017, when Barack Obama’s former campaign manager and senior advisor, David Plouffe, took a job leading the policy and advocacy efforts of the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative, a “charitable” organization established by Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg and his wife, Priscilla Chan.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 22, 2020, 08:20:12 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HGMxZEl60k
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 22, 2020, 09:36:31 PM


A dozen compelling allegations of voting irregularities in 2020 election

From ejected ballot observers to fraudulently backdated mail-in votes, the evidence of irregularities is growing nationwide.

By John Solomon
Updated: November 23, 2020

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/dozen-compelling-pieces-evidence-voting-irregularities-2020-election

Excerpt:

While many Democrats and their allies in the traditional media argue there is no evidence of systemic voting irregularities in the Nov. 3 election, a mountain of evidence has been amassed in private lawsuits alleging there was, in fact, significant and widespread voting misconduct.

The question for the courts is whether the irregularities were widespread enough to impact the outcome or erase Joe Biden's lead in at least three of the six battleground states where results are being contested.

And while both President Trump's campaign and private entities like the Amistad Project are planning to file more lawsuits on Monday, Just the News reviewed the scores of filings and affidavits and declarations in the court cases.

Here are the 12 most compelling pieces of evidence presented to the courts as of Sunday night:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 23, 2020, 07:06:22 AM
Dominion stealing votes seen on CNN!

https://populist.press/dominion-caught-red-handed-stealing-votes-on-live-tv/
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 23, 2020, 07:45:20 AM
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/nov/23/barack-obama-once-again-signals-conservatives-are-/

We've got it wrong! They're not the problem, we're the problem!

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 23, 2020, 07:55:37 AM

Michigan Witness and Former US Congressional Candidate Speaks Out — Saw the Biden Ballot Dump at 4 AM and Witnessed Officials Tampering with Tabulators!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/michigan-witness-former-us-congressional-candidate-speaks-saw-biden-ballot-dump-4-witnessed-officials-tampering-tabulators/

(https://i.imgur.com/6OYEdpI.png?1)

Articia Bomer was a candidate for US Congress with the US Taxpayers Party. She is a Detroit resident, and she was present at the TCF Center on Nov. 3rd and 4th when the votes from Wayne County were tabulated.

Bomer says she witnessed MASSIVE, BLATANT VOTER FRAUD.

Bomer describes:

Hearing an announcement of 50 boxes at 4am: the Biden Ballot Dump!
Hearing that the Biden Ballot Dump was counted and processed in an impossibly short amount of time
Witnessing officials TAMPERING with tabulators at the TCF Center!
Ballot harvesting operations being done by a local Church
Poll workers overriding the actual votes, and changing Trump votes to BIDEN!
Poll workers REFUSING TO COUNT Trump votes!
Poll workers bringing in luggage and boxes that could have contained illegal ballots
Poll Workers using deceitful tactics and colluding with Democrats to try and EXPEL GOP Poll Challengers
GOP Poll Challengers being EJECTED from observing the vote count
GOP Poll Challengers were observing ILLEGAL BALLOTS and their objections were IGNORED
Poll workers being obvious Democrat PARTISANS
Suspicious meetings of the poll workers

Bomer describes a Detroit poll worker who used correction tape to rig the machines to generate errors that could be overridden by staff.

“Our goal was to secure the vote.” Bomer raised her concerns at the time with the GOP Attorneys on-site but nothing appears to have been done in response to her statements.

“Now? I don’t have faith in any election system after having witnessed this fraud happen right before my eyes,” Bomer said.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 23, 2020, 08:16:13 AM
An additional article has been posted re this statistical analysis concluding that fraud is by far the most likely explanation for the anomalies throughout the dataset.

Explosive: New Data From Rigorous Statistical Analysis Points to Voter Fraud in Montgomery County, PA

https://www.revolver.news/2020/11/explosive-new-data-from-rigorous-statistical-analysis-points-to-voter-fraud-in-montgomery-county-pa/

Statistical Analyst Reveals Scenario of How Dems May Have Pulled Off Massive Fraud in Montgomery County, PA (Part Two)

https://www.revolver.news/2020/11/one-possible-fraud-scenario-montgomery-county-pa/

Here is a time-stamped video of Darren Beattie, who published the statistical analysis on his site Revolver, interviewed on this article on Steve Bannon's War Room Pandemic:

https://youtu.be/3kA8ZxrB69E?t=2097
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 23, 2020, 08:42:17 AM
Here is another brief summary of the 40 minute video embedded above outlining the statistical analysis:

The Dominion Algorithm Used to Steal the Election

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/dominion-algorithm-used-steal-election/

By Larry Johnson
Published November 23, 2020 at 7:30am

Sorry for using the word, “algorithm.” I suspect most of you reading this struggled thru basic algebra in high school and did not deign to venture into the world of calculus and other advanced mathematics. The explanation is simple. A calculation built into the computer software was executed to produce numbers that, if unexamined, appear to secure a victory for Biden. The numbers do not lie. Votes were manufactured for Joe Biden. The citizens of Pennsylvania voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump. Joe Biden’s folks tried to steal it.

A fellow by the name of Edward Solomon has done yeoman’s work in digging into the Pennsylvania voting data and showing conclusively, in my view, how the Democrats, with the help of Dominion, rigged the vote. What was done in Pennsylvania, specifically Philadelphia, reveals how the Dominion software magically created votes for Joe Biden to swamp the actual number of votes Donald Trump was ringing up.

We shared this video a couple days ago.  The video lasts about 40 minutes. It is worth your time. Here is our first post with the video.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/exclusive-brilliant-american-minutemen-women-just-uncovered-dominion-plot-transferring-vote-ratios-pennsylvania-precincts-video/

But let me give you the Reader’s Digest version. When the early vote numbers rolled in, it was clear that Donald Trump was on his way to a major win. The task for Dominion was to manufacture votes for Biden without making it obvious. They tried, but failed.

Mr. Solomon takes the raw vote data that was being streamed by the NY Times and downloaded it into a spreadsheet. That data allows him to look at vote totals by precinct and how they changed over time. He found that a variety of ratios were used in different sets of precincts. For example, his Exhibit 1 shows a group of precincts where the votes were being recorded at the following ratio–1 vote for Trump and 48 for Biden.

The diabolical system employed by Dominion started with needing to generate a total vote total for Joe Biden. Rather than employ a single computer calculation, Dominion used a number of algorithms. Mr. Solomon identifies at least 9 different calculations used to create these votes.

Exhibit 1 Ratio of 1 to 48

Exhibit 2 Ratio of 1 to 18

Exhibit 3 Ratio of 4 to 65

Exhibit 4 Ratio of 3 to 48

Exhibit 5 Ratio 4 to 63

Exhibit 6 Ratio of 5 to 31

Exhibit 7 Ratio of 1 to 5

Exhibit 8 Ratio of 1 to 4

Exhibit 9 Ration of 1 to 6

The data examined by Mr. Solomon is only one part of the proof of the voter fraud. Data from other parts of Pennsylvania will need to be examined to determine if there is a similar pattern or if the data from Philadelphia and Pittsburgh are outliers.

The Gateway Pundit has also posted several reports on the election fraud in Pennsylvania.

And it is odd that Dominion refused to testify under oath in front of a Pennsylvania House committee.

The next evidentiary question to be asked, and answered, is whether there are actually ballots that back up the numbers reported on the computer. If there are ballots for Biden but no ballots for Trump, that is conclusive evidence of the fraud.

There are multiple sworn affidavits from witnesses of truck loads of ballots being off-loaded at the center in Philadelphia. Those ballots must be examined. If the ballots only show Joe Biden’s name and there are no ballots matching the numbers reported for Trump, that means one thing. Fraud.

The election results never made sense.  We are quickly uncovering why.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 23, 2020, 08:43:54 AM
So ALL Dominion offices across the world have been closed and their executives are no where to be found.  Nothing fishy at all.  Some people need to learn how to add multiple information together, and not just rely on what the courts rule.  Many of the elite are exempt from the court systems and correct judgements.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 23, 2020, 08:49:06 AM
So ALL Dominion offices across the world have been closed and their executives are no where to be found.  Nothing fishy at all.  Some people need to learn how to add multiple information together, and not just rely on what the courts rule.  Many of the elite are exempt from the court systems and correct judgements.
I'm sure the disappearance of all Dominion officials, and the hiring of a long time D.C. lobbyist hack (Michael Steel) to give a public "explanation" re the charges against the Dominion machines, has a totally innocent explanation. They likely had long planned that shortly after the election all the offices would close and all the personnel would go on well-deserved vacations, just coincidentally to countries lacking extradition treaties with the United States.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 23, 2020, 08:51:00 AM
So ALL Dominion offices across the world have been closed and their executives are no where to be found.  Nothing fishy at all.  Some people need to learn how to add multiple information together, and not just rely on what the courts rule.  Many of the elite are exempt from the court systems and correct judgements.
Lies!  Where's your "intel" and their sources?  Tangible evidence? 

I haven't read much into the Dominion thing, but if it does go as wide as some have said, hoelee fawking sheeeit. ..

The more crap happens, the more the movie Shooter really said many "truths". . .
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 23, 2020, 08:58:04 AM
I'm not, nor is the article, asserting that this testimony is any kind of "evidence" of fraud or anything else. Just another brick in the wall. Just a footnote.

Dominion CEO Admits In Testimony: Machines Rely On Chinese Parts From ‘Screen Interface Down To Chip Level’

https://thenationalpulse.com/news/dominion-uses-chinese-parts/

The comments came during Poulos’s sworn testimony before the House Administration Committee on January 9th, 2020.

The unearthed remarks boost claims that Dominion’s voting systems could have been influenced by a foreign actor – specifically the Biden-backing Chinese Communist Party.

Contained in the nearly three hour-long testimony, Poulos’s opening statement revealed how the company relies on parts manufactured in China for its voting machines.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 23, 2020, 09:07:20 AM
Not a presentation of evidence but the reasoning of the inevitability of a fraudulent election attempt by the forces opposed to Trump.

Trump’s Big Win and the Will of the People

Posted by RICHARD GREENHORN on NOVEMBER 23, 2020

https://theamericansun.com/2020/11/23/trumps-big-win-and-the-will-of-the-people/

Excerpt:

You should be of high spirits. Donald J. Trump, who is the only major figure American political alive interested in conserving anything, won the election. Donald J. Trump, the one figure we knew might be able to spark counter-revolutionary awareness, has sparked that change. Trump won in procedural terms—but don’t spend your time obsessing with these formalities, let the lawyers deal with that. The election crisis we face now is not the “chad counting” we witnessed in the 2000 race; it is not mere legalism. Trump won on a deeper level, one from which the springs of counter-revolution can flow. That win is in the general will of the people.

Anyone who is discouraged by the current state of lawsuits, propaganda and the rest clearly didn’t have his head together on November third. This was always going to happen. There was always going to be fraud, there was always going to be gaslighting, there was always going to be the treason of wimp conservatives. But it wasn’t clear until Trump’s huge numbers came in that the fraud would have to be so blatant, that the gaslighting would be so cartoonish, that the cucks would be such a pathetic minority. Given the situation faced on November third, things are going as well as anyone could have realistically hoped for. Since January 20, 2017 this has been inevitable.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 23, 2020, 10:07:51 AM
Lies!  Where's your "intel" and their sources?  Tangible evidence? 

I haven't read much into the Dominion thing, but if it does go as wide as some have said, hoelee fawking sheeeit. ..

The more crap happens, the more the movie Shooter really said many "truths". . .

"I've still got the shovel...."
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 23, 2020, 10:12:37 AM
"I've still got the shovel...."
"This is about evidence and the truth!"

"And I said, 'fuck you'.  The truth is what I say it is."

But seriously, lots from that movie.  The part of about the "hard" part being folks in the Gov't having to admit that they knew.  Many other examples as well.  Love that movie anyways, but so many things like :hmm: 

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 23, 2020, 10:13:16 AM
I'm sure the disappearance of all Dominion officials, and the hiring of a long time D.C. lobbyist hack (Michael Steel) to give a public "explanation" re the charges against the Dominion machines, has a totally innocent explanation. They likely had long planned that shortly after the election all the offices would close and all the personnel would go on well-deserved vacations, just coincidentally to countries lacking extradition treaties with the United States.

Funny how the CISA statement about "the most secure election in American history" has been silenced ever since it was made public Dominion and Smartmatic were on the GCC Sector Coordinating Council.  I was waiting for corroboration of that fact, and the deafening silence by the media surrounding the DHS/CISA comments is all it takes.  If this had been a real talking point for the "Biden won!" side, it would not have died such a quick and quiet death.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 23, 2020, 10:14:56 AM
"This is about evidence and the truth!"

"And I said, 'fuck you'.  The truth is what I say it is."

But seriously, lots from that movie.  The part of about the "hard" part being folks in the Gov't having to admit that they knew.  Many other examples as well.  Love that movie anyways, but so many things like :hmm:

Two things that keep real evidence from coming out are:  (1) most of it is classified, making it a federal crime to disseminate publicly, and (2) the people in a position to provide the evidence also have the power to dispose of it.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 23, 2020, 10:19:38 AM
Two things that keep real evidence from coming out are:  (1) most of it is classified, making it a federal crime to disseminate publicly, and (2) the people in a position to provide the evidence also have the power to dispose of it.
That and proving something can be at the expense of exposing how that information was obtained, or tech exists, or other "things".  Say, uh, like Benghazi. . .

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 23, 2020, 10:37:17 AM
I saw a post about a Canadian news agency that said Soro's was arrested.  The reason why they can post about it is because the US judges classified order does not apply to Canada.  And since Soro's has properties in Canada that are being raided, that's how they found out about his arrest.

Sounds too good to be true.  "google" showed up nothing.  But they again, they do delete things.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 23, 2020, 10:39:30 AM
I saw a post about a Canadian news agency that said Soro's was arrested.  The reason why they can post about it is because the US judges classified order does not apply to Canada.  And since Soro's has properties in Canada that are being raided, that's how they found out about his arrest.

Sounds too good to be true.  "google" showed up nothing.  But they again, they do delete things.
What is your “chatter” monitor picking up? :P
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 23, 2020, 12:33:01 PM
What is your “chatter” monitor picking up? :P

Getting jammed by 5G. Brb, wrapping in tin foil.  Need to use the reserve stash, had to make too many hats for others.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 23, 2020, 12:49:03 PM
Getting jammed by 5G. Brb, wrapping in tin foil.  Need to use the reserve stash, had to make too many hats for others.
Don't tighten down too much.  Gotta keep the blood flowing. . .
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 23, 2020, 01:04:26 PM
Every state judge that dismisses a Trump lawsuit gets the case one step closer to the Supreme Court.

It ain't over 'til it's over.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 23, 2020, 01:09:32 PM
Every state judge that dismisses a Trump lawsuit gets the case one step closer to the Supreme Court.

It ain't over 'til it's over.
"I ain't heard no fat lady. . . "

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 23, 2020, 01:11:03 PM
"I ain't heard no fat lady. . . "

I think she sings today after the 2 battle grounds vote to certify then its basically over.

*edit
Nvm Michigan just certified I think she just sang.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 23, 2020, 02:00:06 PM
"I ain't heard no fat lady. . . "

"Forget the fat lady!  You're obsessed with the fat lady!"   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 23, 2020, 02:02:27 PM
I think she sings today after the 2 battle grounds vote to certify then its basically over.

*edit
Nvm Michigan just certified I think she just sang.

Is that your professional opinion as a Constitutional Law Professor?

 :sleeping:

States certifying is a necessary step so Trump can request recounts where the margin is within a specific percentage depending on the state.

Baby steps...
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 23, 2020, 03:17:31 PM
Every state judge that dismisses a Trump lawsuit gets the case one step closer to the Supreme Court.

It ain't over 'til it's over.
All part of the plan. 4D.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 24, 2020, 07:51:04 AM
OAN: Dominion Exec: “Trump is not going to win. I made fking sure if that.”

https://youtu.be/qZ_ks_sNITg
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 24, 2020, 07:53:11 AM
Think I heard that fat beeeyotch humming down the hall. . .

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 24, 2020, 09:46:08 AM
Is that your professional opinion as a Constitutional Law Professor?

 :sleeping:

States certifying is a necessary step so Trump can request recounts where the margin is within a specific percentage depending on the state.

Baby steps...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gsa-chief-letter-president-elect-biden-formal-transition-process-resources

Baby steps. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 24, 2020, 10:57:29 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gsa-chief-letter-president-elect-biden-formal-transition-process-resources

Baby steps.

And your point?

Releasing funds to allow the beginning of transition IF it happens is just an administrative action.  The race is still a toss-up.

I think it's rather MATURE and REALISTIC for Trump to prepare for transition even when the final results of the Nov 3 election have still not finished being counted.

Why does anyone think that if 17,000 mysterious votes -- all for Biden -- can be "found" at 4 AM 2 days after the election, that it is not just as possible for 17,100 votes to be "found" during a recount -- all for Trump?   :crazy:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 24, 2020, 11:37:09 AM
https://theamericanconservatives.net/davidson-can-sidney-powell-deliver-the-goods/

Oh boy!

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 24, 2020, 11:39:58 AM
The GSA "transition funds" and cooperation in 2000 were not released and allowed until mid-December when the SCOTUS decision yielded a victory for Bush over Gore.

On a personal note, I think Trump should have kept telling them to shove it.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 24, 2020, 11:47:31 AM
The GSA "transition funds" and cooperation in 2000 were not released and allowed until mid-December when the SCOTUS decision yielded a victory for Bush over Gore.

On a personal note, I think Trump should have kept telling them to shove it.

Nah, he wanted to show compassion because she was being threatened.  All part of the plan.  This was if the SCOTUS does null the election and he's elected via the House, he can say he did go along with the transition until SCOTUS decided. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 24, 2020, 12:27:48 PM
 Darren Beattie on War Room Pandemic re their extensive coverage of Montgomery County "irregularities".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2jn--4xFDo&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 24, 2020, 12:47:13 PM
The GSA "transition funds" and cooperation in 2000 were not released and allowed until mid-December when the SCOTUS decision yielded a victory for Bush over Gore.

On a personal note, I think Trump should have kept telling them to shove it.

I hope he got a promissory note from Biden to repay it if the transition is scrapped!

I saw that Biden was RAISING MONEY for his transition.  Maybe that should go to the gov't if Trump is reeleected.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 24, 2020, 01:11:00 PM
I hope he got a promissory note from Biden to repay it if the transition is scrapped!

I saw that Biden was RAISING MONEY for his transition.  Maybe that should go to the gov't if Trump is reeleected.

Itemized list and detailed on every dollar spent.  No "marketing fee" of $500,000.

The Campaign was on the other night and at the end it showed how a voting machine was used to rig an election by Dan Akroid and the guy from Harry and the Hendersons.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 24, 2020, 01:17:56 PM
Itemized list and detailed on every dollar spent.  No "marketing fee" of $500,000.

The Campaign was on the other night and at the end it showed how a voting machine was used to rig an election by Dan Akroid and the guy from Harry and the Hendersons.

John Lithgow?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 24, 2020, 01:29:13 PM
John Lithgow?

Yup.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 24, 2020, 03:00:53 PM
Yup.

As a 'puter pro for over 30 years with a degree in 'puter science, I always find it educational when Hollywood actors who were born a decade before me give expert presentations on computer-base voting machines.

To think, I wasted my time in college and the military.  I could have gone to acting class, made millions in Hollywood, and just magically understood everything about computers and security.  Living near Steve Jobs must have rubbed off on them.

 :wacko:   :geekdanc:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 24, 2020, 10:29:53 PM
Twenty minute interview with Patrick Byrne, American entrepreneur who was the CEO of Overstock.com and "small l" libertarian who did NOT vote for Trump either time, explaining some elements of the election cyber fraud, using the "three buckets" of types of evidence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fs3tKtmiEA&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 25, 2020, 08:34:56 AM
Deep dive into the math and statistics demonstrating several anomalies that merit further investigation...

https://votepatternanalysis.substack.com/p/voting-anomalies-2020

Anomalies in Vote Counts and Their Effects on Election 2020

A Quantitative Analysis of Decisive Vote Updates in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia on and after Election Night

Executive Summary

In the early hours of November 4th, 2020, Democratic candidate Joe Biden received several major “vote spikes” that substantially — and decisively — improved his electoral position in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Georgia. Much skepticism and uncertainty surrounds these “vote spikes.” Critics point to suspicious vote counting practices, extreme differences between the two major candidates’ vote counts, and the timing of the vote updates, among other factors, to cast doubt on the legitimacy of some of these spikes. While data analysis cannot on its own demonstrate fraud or systemic issues, it can point us to statistically anomalous cases that invite further scrutiny.

This is one such case: Our analysis finds that a few key vote updates in competitive states were unusually large in size and had an unusually high Biden-to-Trump ratio. We demonstrate the results differ enough from expected results to be cause for concern.

With this report, we rely only on publicly available data from the New York Times to identify and analyze statistical anomalies in key states. Looking at 8,954 individual vote updates (differences in vote totals for each candidate between successive changes to the running vote totals, colloquially also referred to as “dumps” or “batches”), we discover a remarkably consistent mathematical property: there is a clear inverse relationship between difference in candidates’ vote counts and and the ratio of the vote counts. (In other words, it's not surprising to see vote updates with large margins, and it's not surprising to see vote updates with very large ratios of support between the candidates, but it is surprising to see vote updates which are both).
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 25, 2020, 08:45:00 AM
As a 'puter pro for over 30 years with a degree in 'puter science, I always find it educational when Hollywood actors who were born a decade before me give expert presentations on computer-base voting machines.

To think, I wasted my time in college and the military.  I could have gone to acting class, made millions in Hollywood, and just magically understood everything about computers and security.  Living near Steve Jobs must have rubbed off on them.

 :wacko:   :geekdanc:

But you might have to sit on the "casting couch".
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 25, 2020, 09:08:06 AM
But you might have to sit on the "casting couch".
A college buddy "invested" in the Taiwan porn industry.  Anyways, he was telling me that like life, there's always the range.  That many only tell about the "highlights".   :o
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 25, 2020, 09:09:38 AM
John Solomon with Lou Dobbs. Five minutes, video embedded in tweet:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1331372429034315777

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 25, 2020, 10:37:16 AM
https://theamericanconservatives.net/voter-integrity-project-releases-evidence-of-thousands-of-vote-fraud-issues-combined-with-affidavits-from-rudy-and-gateway-pundits-statistical-analysis-m/

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 25, 2020, 11:20:12 AM
IDK what animal, if even that's what they are.  No court proved it to anyone.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 25, 2020, 11:44:24 AM

What do you call it?

Hmmm? They're not walking. They're silent... sitting ducks?

That should be a reference to all the Democrat election fraud, but given the Democrat-heavy courts, the general reluctance of judges to get involved in (fraudulent) election overturning, and the weak-kneed RINO state legislatures in question... nothing is even close to a sure thing.

Perhaps another analogy?

(https://i.imgur.com/WsBA70Z.png?1)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 25, 2020, 11:50:12 AM
What bothers me most is the media, that 4th estate that is supposed to keep politics transparent and at least "more honest" than they otherwise would be, enabling the Dems to break the law and skate while constantly accusing the Republicans of conspiracy theories and bad behavior (also without evidence -- completely opposite standards).

"There is no voter fraud."

"There is no systemic, widespread voter fraud."

"There is not enough voter fraud to worry about."

"Okay, there's lots of voter fraud that we can't investigate because the evidence was destroyed in the process of counting.  So what?  WE WON!!"

Total bullshit.  The public wanted to rip the AFC trophy away from the Patriots for an unproven allegation that they deflated some footballs on instruction from the quarterback. 

In other words, the public understands the principle, "Cheaters never prosper."  But in this election, the cheaters are winning, and the weapons the losing side has at their disposal, i.e. state election laws, were created, and are judged, by those same corrupt Democrats. 

Might as well give the home team's Head Coach the Umpire's jersey.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 25, 2020, 12:50:55 PM
What bothers me most is the media, that 4th estate that is supposed to keep politics transparent and at least "more honest" than they otherwise would be, enabling the Dems to break the law and skate while constantly accusing the Republicans of conspiracy theories and bad behavior (also without evidence -- completely opposite standards).

"There is no voter fraud."

"There is no systemic, widespread voter fraud."

"There is not enough voter fraud to worry about."

"Okay, there's lots of voter fraud that we can't investigate because the evidence was destroyed in the process of counting.  So what?  WE WON!!"

Total bullshit.  The public wanted to rip the AFC trophy away from the Patriots for an unproven allegation that they deflated some footballs on instruction from the quarterback. 

In other words, the public understands the principle, "Cheaters never prosper."  But in this election, the cheaters are winning, and the weapons the losing side has at their disposal, i.e. state election laws, were created, and are judged, by those same corrupt Democrats. 

Might as well give the home team's Head Coach the Umpire's jersey.
I think it was cheaters never win. But all good!

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 25, 2020, 01:47:13 PM
Pennsylvania Republican state senate hearing on election vote anomalies. One minute 25 seconds.

Here's how The Conservative Treehouse puts it:

Crowd Gasps, Laughs, as PA Legislature Learns of Ballot Upload With 600,000 Votes Biden and 3,200 For Trump…

Posted on November 25, 2020 by sundance

The ballot anomalies in Pennsylvania took center stage today as the legislature heard about statistically implausible returns uploaded to the PA election system overnight from areas with very sketchy election activity.  During one segment of the testimony the data was explained leaving jaws agape.  The crowd responds to the ridiculous nature of what took place.

* * * * *

Yeah, 600,000 to 3,200 in one tally upload over a short period of time... that seems like a reasonable disparity. 187 to 1. They just really really REALLY like China Bidet in those parts. Nothing to see here.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGGlnHe3Rgc&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 25, 2020, 01:51:42 PM
Pennsylvania Republican state senate hearing on election vote anomalies. One minute 25 seconds.

Here's how The Conservative Treehouse puts it:

Crowd Gasps, Laughs, as PA Legislature Learns of Ballot Upload With 600,000 Votes Biden and 3,200 For Trump…

Posted on November 25, 2020 by sundance

The ballot anomalies in Pennsylvania took center stage today as the legislature heard about statistically implausible returns uploaded to the PA election system overnight from areas with very sketchy election activity.  During one segment of the testimony the data was explained leaving jaws agape.  The crowd responds to the ridiculous nature of what took place.

* * * * *

Yeah, 600,000 to 3,200 in one tally upload over a short period of time... that seems like a reasonable disparity. 187 to 1. They just really really REALLY like China Bidet in those parts. Nothing to see here.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGGlnHe3Rgc&feature=emb_logo
“That’s not proof” by an anonymous millennial.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on November 25, 2020, 01:53:27 PM
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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 25, 2020, 02:01:21 PM
“That’s not proof” by an anonymous millennial.
I get what you're saying.  ;)  :shaka:

Of course it's not "proof". Those testifying about that issue weren't claiming it was, but that it was a serious enough anomaly that it (among many others) requires a serious immediate thorough investigation before the results could be accurately certified. Will the legislators see that and do that, or will they fold like a house of cards? I hate to say it, but I'm guessing fold. Wish it weren't so... but the vast majority of those "Republicans" at the state and national level have either remained silent or already taken a knee. Fuckers. We need a Nationalist Populist Party... but enough pussy Republicans would remain behind to split the vote and give the Democrats a huge edge... especially if Biden does get inaugurated and legalizes the 20+ million illegals as first order of business.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 25, 2020, 02:32:20 PM
Short segment from Dan Bongino at Rumble on the difference in the "media" coverage of the election "discrepancies" in 2000 (Gore v Bush) and 2020.

https://rumble.com/vbeojr-has-the-media-always-been-like-this-on-conceding-an-election-nope-dan-bongi.html?mref=16emn&mc=6kk5f
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 25, 2020, 03:21:51 PM
I think it was cheaters never win. But all good!

I won't argue.  I'll let

https://writingexplained.org/idiom-dictionary/cheaters-never-prosper

do it for me.   :shaka:

You may be thinking of, "Winners never cheat, and cheaters never win."  I've heard that before, but never really accepted it as logical.  Too much of an absolute.  You can cheat and win if you never get caught! 

I like the prosper thing more.  You might win the contest, but you're still not as good as the people you had to cheat to defeat.  It'll come out one day, and everyone will know you're a fraud.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 25, 2020, 03:28:36 PM
I get what you're saying.  ;)  :shaka:

Of course it's not "proof". Those testifying about that issue weren't claiming it was, but that it was a serious enough anomaly that it (among many others) requires a serious immediate thorough investigation before the results could be accurately certified. Will the legislators see that and do that, or will they fold like a house of cards? I hate to say it, but I'm guessing fold. Wish it weren't so... but the vast majority of those "Republicans" at the state and national level have either remained silent or already taken a knee. Fuckers. We need a Nationalist Populist Party... but enough pussy Republicans would remain behind to split the vote and give the Democrats a huge edge... especially if Biden does get inaugurated and legalizes the 20+ million illegals as first order of business.

If only there were laws and procedures in place before the ballot counting and reporting started which mandated that all sides can observe the counting process.  Then there would be no questions about how and from where such anomalies appeared.

Oh, wait .....   :wacko:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 25, 2020, 03:42:17 PM
If only there were laws and procedures in place before the ballot counting and reporting started which mandated that all sides can observe the counting process.  Then there would be no questions about how and from where such anomalies appeared.

Oh, wait .....   :wacko:
One of the testifiers today was an official "observer". He described the room as being approximately 230 by 230 feet. They "fenced off" the observers so they were between 10-15 feet at the closest and up to 200 feet from the actual vote processing tables. Even from 10 feet an observer couldn't see whether or not a signature on a mail in ballot matched the voter rolls, much less from 200 feet away. What a joke! How can anyone take anything that happened there seriously as having taken place under observation of official trained designated observers? I mean anyone besides a Democrat.

I know, I know: There is no "proof" that an observer can't match a signature at 200 feet.  :crazy:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 25, 2020, 09:08:57 PM
Sidney Powell just filed the Georgia and Michigan lawsuits.

Let's hope something happens, sometime, somewhere... I suspect the local district judges are crooked dems... expedited appeals.

https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf

https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Michigan-Complaint.pdf
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 25, 2020, 10:03:33 PM
More testimony from the Pennsylvania Senate hearing. 14 minutes.

Data scientist testified that he observed a "forensically destructive" process on election night.

Gregory Stenstrom, a Navy veteran commanding officer, data scientist, computer forensic scientist, and expert in security and fraud from #Delaware County, testified that he observed a "forensically destructive" process on election night that should call into question anywhere from 100,000 to 120,000 votes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW3I7eFQbbo&feature=emb_logo

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 25, 2020, 10:35:10 PM
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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 26, 2020, 07:55:23 AM
Sidney Powell just filed the Georgia and Michigan lawsuits.

Let's hope something happens, sometime, somewhere... I suspect the local district judges are crooked dems... expedited appeals.

https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/COMPLAINT-CJ-PEARSON-V.-KEMP-11.25.2020.pdf

https://defendingtherepublic.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Michigan-Complaint.pdf
Nose-ringed Al-Qaida-bearded liar Jack Dorsey (aka "Twitter") doesn't want anyone to see the above lawsuits because they are "unsafe"... what a fucking asshole joke. Eliminate 230 exemption!!

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 26, 2020, 08:34:54 AM
Just for fun. Happy Thanksgiving!

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 26, 2020, 10:20:13 AM
https://theamericanconservatives.net/voter-integrity-project-releases-evidence-of-thousands-of-vote-fraud-issues-combined-with-affidavits-from-rudy-and-gateway-pundits-statistical-analysis-m/

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 26, 2020, 11:07:51 AM
Saw last night that a Congressional Candidate for the GOP filed a lawsuit -- not part of the Trump team.  He's claiming PA acted unconstitutionally by doing an all mail-in ballot election, when they already have an absentee ballot process. 

If I caught it right, the Governor tried to get an amendment to the state constitution to allow for all mail-in voting -- ballots sent to all voters whether or not they requested it.  The amendment failed.

Not one to be stopped by the process, he pushed the legislature and state supreme court to enact those rules he couldn't get into the constitution.

That means at least 160K mail-in ballots received were submitted via unconstitutional means and should be thrown out.  I think a judge issued an injunction to delay the PA election certification process until the legal arguments can be heard.

Don't hold me to the specifics.  I watched a YT video at about 1:30 AM.   :sleeping:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 26, 2020, 11:17:03 AM
Saw last night that a Congressional Candidate for the GOP filed a lawsuit -- not part of the Trump team.  He's claiming PA acted unconstitutionally by doing an all mail-in ballot election, when they already have an absentee ballot process. 

If I caught it right, the Governor tried to get an amendment to the state constitution to allow for all mail-in voting -- ballots sent to all voters whether or not they requested it.  The amendment failed.

Not one to be stopped by the process, he pushed the legislature and state supreme court to enact those rules he couldn't get into the constitution.

That means at least 160K mail-in ballots received were submitted via unconstitutional means and should be thrown out.  I think a judge issued an injunction to delay the PA election certification process until the legal arguments can be heard.

Don't hold me to the specifics.  I watched a YT video at about 1:30 AM.   :sleeping:
What about the hundreds of ballots sent to Trader Joe's, and the thousand ballots send to one P O box, and the mail-in ballots returned on a date prior to the date they were mailed out.... Etc. etc., etc.?

Nothing to see here...
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 26, 2020, 11:25:02 AM
What about the hundreds of ballots sent to Trader Joe's, and the thousand ballots send to one P O box, and the mail-in ballots returned on a date prior to the date they were mailed out.... Etc. etc., etc.?

Nothing to see here...

You'll have to ask the candidate.

All I'm sharing is that he's going for a constitutional argument, which puts the state in a worse position since they didn't have a chance to shred THAT evidence -- unlike they did with mail-in ballot envelopes.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 26, 2020, 11:26:29 PM
It is hilarious watching Biden talk like he has some sort of mandate. Major case of buyers remorse for a lot of Democrats I know right now.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 27, 2020, 12:21:17 AM
It is hilarious watching Biden talk like he has some sort of mandate. Major case of buyers remorse for a lot of Democrats I know right now.

Yep.  One survey says if Biden voters had known about the laptop and his plan to lockdown the nation -- among other issues -- over 70% would not have voted for him.

Low information voters will be the undoing of the US, caused by the public reeducation system, the Democrat Party activist media and conservative-censoring big tech.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 27, 2020, 07:06:06 AM
Yep.  One survey says if Biden voters had known about the laptop and his plan to lockdown the nation -- among other issues -- over 70% would not have voted for him.

Low information voters will be the undoing of the US, caused by the public reeducation system, the Democrat Party activist media and conservative-censoring big tech.

Uninformed and misinformed morons voted for a cognitively impaired corrupt moron. What a surprise. 

Okay, enough of that (stating the obvious), back to some evidence.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/23/5-more-ways-joe-biden-magically-outperformed-election-norms/

A non-statistician's view of some statistical improbabilities.

5 More Ways Joe Biden Magically Outperformed Election Norms

Surely the journalist class should be intrigued by the historic implausibility of Joe Biden’s victory. That they are not is curious, to say the least.

J.B. Shurk

In all the excitement among objective journalists for Joe Biden’s declared victory, reporters are missing how extraordinary the Democrat’s performance was in the 2020 election. It’s not just that the former vice president is on track to become the oldest president in American history, it’s what he managed to accomplish at the polls this year.

Candidate Joe Biden was so effective at animating voters in 2020 that he received a record number of votes, more than 15 million more than Barack Obama received in his re-election of 2012. Amazingly, he managed to secure victory while also losing in almost every bellwether county across the country. No presidential candidate has been capable of such electoral jujitsu until now.

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 27, 2020, 08:23:07 AM
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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 27, 2020, 09:24:50 AM
edited* and moved
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 27, 2020, 04:24:58 PM
All 900 Military Ballots in Fulton County, Georgia Went to Sleepy Joe Biden

President Trump won the military vote 60% to 34% in 2016.

So Trump's military vote percentage decreased by 100%, while Biden's military vote percentage TRIPLED compared to Hillary Clinton.

Yeah, like that could happen. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Nothing to see here. Occam's Razor.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 27, 2020, 04:31:57 PM
This is no doubt the lead story on CNN and MSNBC, right?

Sidney Powell Witness Whom NY Times Described as “Always the Smartest Person in the Room” Concludes Hundreds of Thousands of Votes Transferred from Trump to Biden IN ALL BATTLEGROUND STATES

A cyber-crimes expert Dr. Navid Keshavarz-Nia may be the one to save the election for President Donald Trump.

Dr. Keshavarz-Nia is not a stranger to the mainstream media. In fact The New York Times published a glowing report on Dr. Navid Keshavarz-Nia way back in September writing, “Navid Keshavarz-Nia, those who worked with him said, ‘was always the smartest person in the room.’”

In his statement to Sidney Powell, Dr. Keshavarz-Nia concludes that the election data IN ALL BATTLEGROUND STATES were altered resulting in hundreds of thousands of Trump votes transferred to Joe Biden.

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There is no evidence! He used to be the smartest guy in the room, now he's just a foaming-at-the-mouth deplorable! Nothing to see here!



Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 27, 2020, 05:09:54 PM
Dr. Steve Turley on some of the evidence of illegal ballots, the legal strategy ahead, and the domino effect (Go Wisconsin!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ltqtrJf0Ew&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 27, 2020, 06:33:37 PM
Ellis on how the PA House and Senate will introduce
resolutions to appoint presidential electors


The plot thickens ....   :geekdanc:

https://youtu.be/moSz-QQn5Sc
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 27, 2020, 09:36:37 PM
I keep forgetting:

"The Office of the President Elect"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 28, 2020, 05:59:27 AM
This might be of interest and applicable to this thread:

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=39031.msg351890#msg351890
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 28, 2020, 12:31:43 PM
CNN Admits Trump Still Has A Path To The Presidency

https://welovetrump.com/2020/11/28/cnn-admits-trump-still-has-a-path-to-victory/
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 28, 2020, 12:57:43 PM
If I remember correctly some of the contested states have laws making any electors vote for popular vote.  Didn't research all the states but that would mean trump has to convince all the battle ground states that don't have these laws there is mass fraud, they all need republicans to override.  Not seeing this happen.  We will see in about 2 weeks what happens. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 28, 2020, 01:00:41 PM
I believe this might be applicable to this thread as well...

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=39031.msg351977#msg351977
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 28, 2020, 01:02:35 PM
There's voter fraud and there's what is Constitutional.  Not the same things being argued. 

It is my understanding that the Constitution states that voting laws are to be decided by the State leg.  Not a Gov, Sec of State, etc making up the rules.  If you one can't see the issue there, then you're uber naive or purposely arguing for the sake of arguing.  No matter who ends up being the winner, this is a damn mess.  I'm more concerned that stuff like this has been happening all along, regardless of who ends up being "decided". 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 28, 2020, 01:15:29 PM
There's voter fraud and there's what is Constitutional.  Not the same things being argued. 

It is my understanding that the Constitution states that voting laws are to be decided by the State leg.  Not a Gov, Sec of State, etc making up the rules.  If you one can't see the issue there, then you're uber naive or purposely arguing for the sake of arguing.  No matter who ends up being the winner, this is a damn mess.  I'm more concerned that stuff like this has been happening all along, regardless of who ends up being "decided".
Could it be that CA went massive for Trump as the rumor mill is saying? Wouldn’t that be a kick in the head?

I am concerned as well as without faith in our system, we don’t have a republic. However, going through the methods set up by the constitution are the best remedy to bring back some confidence. No matter what the outcome. All allegations of fraud need to be investigated and thoroughly vetted in order to make sure all legal votes are counted or the remedy fits with in the solutions provided by the constitution.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 28, 2020, 01:18:48 PM
There's voter fraud and there's what is Constitutional.  Not the same things being argued. 

It is my understanding that the Constitution states that voting laws are to be decided by the State leg.  Not a Gov, Sec of State, etc making up the rules.  If you one can't see the issue there, then you're uber naive or purposely arguing for the sake of arguing.  No matter who ends up being the winner, this is a damn mess.  I'm more concerned that stuff like this has been happening all along, regardless of who ends up being "decided".

I, for  one, and very interested (excited?) to see these issues being played out FINALLY.  For too long, we let the winners decide if the WAY in which they won got investigated.  Now, Trump is shining the light of transparency on the corrupt election practices in many states, forcing us to address the problems BEFORE we let those who stole the election have the reigns of power and ignore the problems.

Democrats tend to reward those who cheat to get them power.  We need to break that cycle.

Many Constitutional "fail safes" ought to at least be argued this election.  I want to see how the courts, state governments and the feds address these obviously unusual results.  I think the Dems crossed the line between "just enough to win local elections" to "we need to ramp up our cheating because Trump is way ahead."  They got caught because the prize, and the needed "correction," was bigger than ever.  We'll see if the "system" holds anyone accountable.  Just giving Trump the win is not enough.  The election system across the country needs to be at the very least certified by a federal agency using independent professional businesses.

We need many layers of monitoring of elections.  One state or federal group will not work.  Maybe using taxes to fund each party, at least Dems and GOP, to provide their own election system certification team would be a start?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 28, 2020, 01:27:02 PM
Could it be that CA went massive for Trump as the rumor mill is saying? Wouldn’t that be a kick in the head?

I am concerned as well as without faith in our system, we don’t have a republic. However, going through the methods set up by the constitution are the best remedy to bring back some confidence. No matter what the outcome. All allegations of fraud need to be investigated and thoroughly vetted in order to make sure all legal votes are counted or the remedy fits with in the solutions provided by the constitution.
Re: CA, I saw much of that speculation and it really would be wild.  Protests galore, but will continue to expose the true nature of some segments of our society. 

Re: the system, precisely my point.  One of the true freedoms I believed we still have.  To have that tainted, or at least a LOT of smoke indicating otherwise, is a mess.  I don't get if there's enough evidence to "prove" widespread fraud that would change the tide for Trump/Biden.  I am very interested in it all playing out. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 28, 2020, 01:30:23 PM
I, for  one, and very interested (excited?) to see these issues being played out FINALLY.  For too long, we let the winners decide if the WAY in which they won got investigated.  Now, Trump is shining the light of transparency on the corrupt election practices in many states, forcing us to address the problems BEFORE we let those who stole the election have the reigns of power and ignore the problems.

Democrats tend to reward those who cheat to get them power.  We need to break that cycle.

Many Constitutional "fail safes" ought to at least be argued this election.  I want to see how the courts, state governments and the feds address these obviously unusual results.  I think the Dems crossed the line between "just enough to win local elections" to "we need to ramp up our cheating because Trump is way ahead."  They got caught because the prize, and the needed "correction," was bigger than ever.  We'll see if the "system" holds anyone accountable.  Just giving Trump the win is not enough.  The election system across the country needs to be at the very least certified by a federal agency using independent professional businesses.

We need many layers of monitoring of elections.  One state or federal group will not work.  Maybe using taxes to fund each party, at least Dems and GOP, to provide their own election system certification team would be a start?
Good to have some rational discussion on here for a change. . .

I am also looking forward to seeing how things play out.  Very much interested in things coming to light, but not holding my breath.  A part of my just wants this all to be over with and we can hopefully hang those who have tampered with the elections.  At very minimum, put things in place so this sort of mess doesn't happen again.  Is it a global cabal?  With Soros, Gates, etc pulling strings.  Dunno.  Wouldn't surprise me in the slightests, but I am realistic on expectations. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 28, 2020, 01:32:16 PM
Re: CA, I saw much of that speculation and it really would be wild.  Protests galore, but will continue to expose the true nature of some segments of our society. 

Re: the system, precisely my point.  One of the true freedoms I believed we still have.  To have that tainted, or at least a LOT of smoke indicating otherwise, is a mess.  I don't get if there's enough evidence to "prove" widespread fraud that would change the tide for Trump/Biden.  I am very interested in it all playing out.
Well at least in PA the state Supreme Court declared their election invalid. Now it is up to the state legislature to resolve it and if they can’t it will go to SCOTUS. But what this does is set precedent so the Trump legal team to come in to the other swing states and argue the same points that convinced the PA Supreme Court.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 28, 2020, 01:40:37 PM
Well at least in PA the state Supreme Court declared their election invalid. Now it is up to the state legislature to resolve it and if they can’t it will go to SCOTUS. But what this does is set precedent so the Trump legal team to come in to the other swing states and argue the same points that convinced the PA Supreme Court.

It takes too long to do state by state, but because of the complexities of trying to present overlapping accusations spanning more than 2 states, and all with a variety of problems, issues and laws, there's really no better way to go than one by one.

PA election was unconstitutional.  Their EC votes based on election results are not certifiable.  The legislature most decide on the slate of electors, or bow out of the EC altogether.

Now do MI.

Then WI.

Then NV.

Then GA.

Then every other state!  Don't leave any of them with "anomalies" free to do it again.

If the Trump campaign isn't interested/funded to go after all the corrupt states, maybe the FBI and DOJ will finally be tasked to do it.

We won't know what needs fixing until we can point to what was broken.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 28, 2020, 01:41:18 PM
Well at least in PA the state Supreme Court declared their election invalid. Now it is up to the state legislature to resolve it and if they can’t it will go to SCOTUS. But what this does is set precedent so the Trump legal team to come in to the other swing states and argue the same points that convinced the PA Supreme Court.
Yeah, I saw that.  Had been trying to find better documentation on that.  By that, I mean not from uber right wing sources.  It was Thanksgiving and I haven't had the chance to look it up further.  Not that I don't believe you, just have been lazy to look stuff up for myself the past couple of days.  Still "recovering" from Thanksgiving.   ;D

I do think the PA thing is huge though.  Sadly, crickets on the MSM, which isn't surprising.  Just that so many folks saying no smoke since "they haven't heard about it".  :facepalm:

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 28, 2020, 01:44:24 PM
It takes too long to do state by state, but because of the complexities of trying to present overlapping accusations spanning more than 2 states, and all with a variety of problems, issues and laws, there's really no better way to go than one by one.

PA election was unconstitutional.  Their EC votes based on election results are not certifiable.  The legislature most decide on the slate of electors, or bow out of the EC altogether.

Now do MI.

Then WI.

Then NV.

Then GA.

Then every other state!  Don't leave any of them with "anomalies" free to do it again.

If the Trump campaign isn't interested/funded to go after all the corrupt states, maybe the FBI and DOJ will finally be tasked to do it.

We won't know what needs fixing until we can point to what was broken.
Saw more rumblings on that angle, as well as other shakeups.  Not a whole lot of faith or expectations from the FBI.  The DoJ on the other hand, I'll give them an "I still have hope for them yet". 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 28, 2020, 01:55:12 PM
It takes too long to do state by state, but because of the complexities of trying to present overlapping accusations spanning more than 2 states, and all with a variety of problems, issues and laws, there's really no better way to go than one by one.

PA election was unconstitutional.  Their EC votes based on election results are not certifiable.  The legislature most decide on the slate of electors, or bow out of the EC altogether.

Now do MI.

Then WI.

Then NV.

Then GA.

Then every other state!  Don't leave any of them with "anomalies" free to do it again.

If the Trump campaign isn't interested/funded to go after all the corrupt states, maybe the FBI and DOJ will finally be tasked to do it.

We won't know what needs fixing until we can point to what was broken.
Not that I know anything more than anyone else. The feeling was that WI was going to go before PA. So chances are WI is next. And it was felt that NV had a good chance to do the same. Just because I live here I would love to see AZ go the same way. But now more than ever, GA and MI are also back in play. They were talking domino effect. So possibly the swing states that are in play could also go the same way. I would love to see if CA cheated massively enough to flip. That would be like the ultimate in slapping the cheaters around.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 28, 2020, 02:04:54 PM
Yeah, I saw that.  Had been trying to find better documentation on that.  By that, I mean not from uber right wing sources.  It was Thanksgiving and I haven't had the chance to look it up further.  Not that I don't believe you, just have been lazy to look stuff up for myself the past couple of days.  Still "recovering" from Thanksgiving.   ;D

I do think the PA thing is huge though.  Sadly, crickets on the MSM, which isn't surprising.  Just that so many folks saying no smoke since "they haven't heard about it".  :facepalm:
I had family this thanksgiving so I had to drink Martinelli’s!!!  :rofl:

My only recovering was catching up on some sleep. I’ll have a few tonight in your honor.

It is so obvious that the MSM is in on this whole fraud thing I don’t understand how anyone with any intelligence would rely on them for any news whatsoever. And it would lend to discredit someone who even posts links and stories from the MSM now. It has made me scramble to try and find reliable sources for news without too much of a slant.

The PA thing is going to play out the way it should now that the court saw the massive fraudulent behavior and interceded. No matter the outcome. With so much fraud now proven in a court of law I just hope the other state courts see it as well.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 28, 2020, 02:50:11 PM
https://youtu.be/VpNZattlJv4
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: MauiAxis on November 28, 2020, 03:01:41 PM
https://www2.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/203371np.pdf

Pennsylvania case

Federal appeals court rejects a Trump election lawsuit: “Calling an election unfair does not make it so”
The Trump campaign can’t stop losing election lawsuits.
President Donald Trump continued to misleadingly cast doubt on the results of the 2020 presidential election — which was won three weeks ago by President-elect Joe Biden — in the early hours of Saturday morning. But with lawsuit after lawsuit failing in courts, and the federal election certification deadline approaching, Trump is quickly running out of road to attempt overturning the election.
The president’s latest legal defeat came Friday when a three-member appeals court rejected a Trump campaign suit against Pennsylvania election officials that alleged the state engaged in “unconstitutional discrimination” against Trump voters in a scathing, unanimous decision that found the president’s lawsuit had “no merit.”
Specifically, the suit asked two things of the Third Circuit Court of Appeals: to reverse a lower court decision blocking Trump’s legal team from amending its complaint to include claims that poll watchers were barred from observing the vote counting process, and to issue an injunction “to prevent the certified vote totals from taking effect.” (Pennsylvania certified its election results on Tuesday.) The court granted neither.
In its decision, the court highlighted the Trump legal team’s lack of evidence of its claims, and rebuked the lawyers for making “vague and conclusory” allegations, and for requesting a remedy “grossly disproportionate to the procedural challenges raised.”
“The Campaign never alleges that any ballot was fraudulent or cast by an illegal voter,” Judge Stephanos Bibas, who was nominated to the court by Trump in 2017, wrote for the court. “It never alleges that any defendant treated the Trump campaign or its votes worse than it treated the Biden campaign or its votes. Calling something discrimination does not make it so.”
“Charges of unfairness are serious,” Bibas wrote. “But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”
Previously, Trump’s Pennsylvania lawsuit was dismissed in federal district court in a similar, equally scorching decision by Judge Matthew Brann, who wrote that “this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence.”
In a tweet after the decision was published, Trump campaign legal adviser Jenna Ellis, who in 2016 referred to Trump as an “unethical, corrupt, lying, criminal, dirtbag,” decried the “activist judicial machinery in Pennsylvania.”
“On to SCOTUS,” Ellis wrote Friday.
However, there’s no guarantee that the Supreme Court will accept the case if the Trump campaign follows through on an appeal, experts say, and even less that the Court would rule in its favor.
“Yes, the Trump campaign can now ‘go to #SCOTUS,’ but with what?” wrote University of Texas law professor Steve Vladeck on Twitter. “The Court is never going to take up this dumpster-fire of a lawsuit. And, as today’s unanimous Third Circuit opinion written by a Trump appointee makes clear, there’s no remote basis for an injunction pending appeal.”
The Trump campaign faces equally slim chances of success elsewhere.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 28, 2020, 04:14:25 PM
Okay. I can do a wall of text too (except this is an actual "news" story, not an editorial).

https://www.ntd.com/judge-republicans-will-likely-win-pennsylvania-election-lawsuit_533926.html

Judge: Republicans Will Likely Win Pennsylvania Election Lawsuit

The judge who ordered Pennsylvania to not certify the results of the 2020 election wrote in an opinion on Friday that the Republicans who filed the related lawsuit will likely win the case.

Pennsylvania Commonwealth Judge Patricia McCullough made the assessment as part of an opinion explaining her rationale for blocking Pennsylvania’s election certification.

A group of Republican lawmakers and candidates sued the Keystone State earlier this week, arguing that the state legislature’s mail-in voting law—Act 77—violated the commonwealth’s constitution.

“Petitioners appear to have established a likelihood to succeed on the merits because petitioners have asserted the Constitution does not provide a mechanism for the legislature to allow for expansion of absentee voting without a constitutional amendment,” McCullough wrote.

When ruling on an emergency injunction, judges have to consider whether the party which requested the injunction is likely to win the case or “succeed on the merits.” McCullough opined that the “petitioners appear to have a viable claim that the mail-in ballot procedures set forth in Act 77 contravene” the plain language of the provision of the Pennsylvania Constitution which deals with absentee voting.

Pennsylvania said that it had certified the results of the election for president and vice president on Nov. 24 while the court was reviewing briefings from both parties. In response, the plaintiffs filed a request for an emergency injunction, arguing that that state need not have acted so fast.

“It appears that respondents’ actions may have been accelerated in response to the application for emergency relief … in an effort to preclude any remedial action by this court faster than this court was able to evaluate the application for emergency relief and the answers to it,” the plaintiffs wrote.

The emergency request underlined that while Pennsylvania completed vote-counting and submitted the signed certification to the U.S. archivist, a number of steps still remain for the formal certification process to be completed.

“While Respondents may have proactively attempted to avoid potential injunctive relief granted by this Court, Respondents duties with regard to finalization of the full election results are far from complete,” the filing states.

Republican state lawmakers in Pennsylvania released a memo on Nov. 27, advising that they will soon introduce a resolution to dispute the results of the 2020 election.

The resolution states that the executive and judicial branches of the Keystone State’s government usurped the legislature’s constitutional power to set the rules of the election.

The resolution “declares that the selection of presidential electors and other statewide electoral contest results in this commonwealth is in dispute” and “urges the secretary of the commonwealth and the governor to withdraw or vacate the certification of presidential electors and to delay certification of results in other statewide electoral contests voted on at the 2020 general election.”
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on November 28, 2020, 05:27:54 PM
maybe the FBI and DOJ will finally be tasked to do it.

Snort, those clowns that refused to prosecute PIAPS for clear felonies? 
FBI is a joke these days, and DoJ is in the thrall of the globalists.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on November 28, 2020, 05:30:54 PM
Okay. I can do a wall of text too
Quite curious how these types are suddenly popping up here and there. 
Who is creating these new IDs and/or who is prompting them?
Some are clearly sock-puppets, and others come in from liberal websites to snipe.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 28, 2020, 11:29:01 PM
Quite curious how these types are suddenly popping up here and there. 
Who is creating these new IDs and/or who is prompting them?
Some are clearly sock-puppets, and others come in from other liberal websites to snipe.

I was tempted to start an account called Surrender Monkey and have a little fun mocking them.

"We should give up. The Governor is wise and just. HPD is our friend" etc
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 29, 2020, 06:27:10 AM
Okay. I can do a wall of text too (except this is an actual "news" story, not an editorial).
The problem with what MauiAxis posted is that someone else already posted a similar link to the info a few days before he/she did. So what they posted is a duplicate and old information. The speed in which we are posting information almost as it happens anything that is posted like this that is more than a day old is truly old news. And actually the information they posted is pretty irrelevant as well. The Trump team’s lawsuits were clearly designed to try and force the states to abide by their own election laws. The lawsuits have nothing to do with election fraud. The chances of the state supreme courts actually upholding the allegations are pretty low. It truly doesn’t matter if the state supreme courts rule for or against the Trump team as their ultimate goal is to take the fight to SCOTUS. So the fact the Trump Team lost just one out of dozens of lawsuits is actually playing into their hands.

Bottom line, is we have to wait and see where all of this goes.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 29, 2020, 04:45:45 PM
The problem with what MauiAxis posted is that someone else already posted a similar link to the info a few days before he/she did. So what they posted is a duplicate and old information. The speed in which we are posting information almost as it happens anything that is posted like this that is more than a day old is truly old news. And actually the information they posted is pretty irrelevant as well. The Trump team’s lawsuits were clearly designed to try and force the states to abide by their own election laws. The lawsuits have nothing to do with election fraud. The chances of the state supreme courts actually upholding the allegations are pretty low. It truly doesn’t matter if the state supreme courts rule for or against the Trump team as their ultimate goal is to take the fight to SCOTUS. So the fact the Trump Team lost just one out of dozens of lawsuits is actually playing into their hands.

Bottom line, is we have to wait and see where all of this goes.
Yeah, alot of us are very worried where this could be heading. Some of us needs to catch up on it. That's why I'm subscribed to Parler and Rumble. Watching newsmax and oan besides talk radio.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 29, 2020, 04:47:06 PM
I was tempted to start an account called Surrender Monkey and have a little fun mocking them.

"We should give up. The Governor is wise and just. HPD is our friend" etc
That's a barrel of laughs!

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on November 29, 2020, 06:19:02 PM
I was tempted to start an account called Surrender Monkey and have a little fun mocking them.

"We should give up. The Governor is wise and just. HPD is our friend" etc
A lot of us would have figured you were really that fisheye clown,
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 29, 2020, 06:30:33 PM
A lot of us would have figured you were really that fisheye clown,

Cannot take credit for that. Making hpd look bad by sticking to their own talking points is brilliant but way out of my league.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 29, 2020, 06:52:20 PM
Gotta watch this .....    :wtf:

https://youtu.be/k3WK0M4S_Qw
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: MauiAxis on November 29, 2020, 07:06:11 PM
“That's why I'm subscribed to Parler and Rumble. Watching newsmax and oan besides talk radio.”

Wow you guys are unreal.  Yes if you burrow deeply enough into extraordinarily biased web sites likenthose you listed in the quote, you can can reinforce your evho chambers of disinformation and laughable conspiracy theories.

Obviously anybody can say anything on a website or Twitter. When it gets to court there has to be some facts or evidence or these wild claims get  tossed.

Yes this is like administering medicine to the dead.  And you ill continue to insult me and others that do not have the same blinders on. How about some Aloha and an attempt at critical thinking?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 29, 2020, 07:10:43 PM
“That's why I'm subscribed to Parler and Rumble. Watching newsmax and oan besides talk radio.”

Wow you guys are unreal.  Yes if you burrow deeply enough into extraordinarily biased web sites likenthose you listed in the quote, you can can reinforce your evho chambers of disinformation and laughable conspiracy theories.

Obviously anybody can say anything on a website or Twitter. When it gets to court there has to be some facts or evidence or these wild claims get  tossed.

Yes this is like administering medicine to the dead.  And you ill continue to insult me and others that do not have the same blinders on. How about some Aloha and an attempt at critical thinking?

Oh look. The guy unquestioningly ingesting corporate mainstream hogswallop is going to tell everyone how to think critically. Apparently it is really easy. Just believe whatever the billionaires tell you.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 29, 2020, 07:29:04 PM
Oh look. The guy unquestioningly ingesting corporate mainstream hogswallop is going to tell everyone how to think critically. Apparently it is really easy. Just believe whatever the billionaires tell you.

Says the one who believes anything a certain "Billionaire" tells them
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: hvybarrels on November 29, 2020, 07:34:41 PM
Says the one who believes anything a certain "Billionaire" tells them

If the worst people in the world hate him then he must be doing something right.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on November 29, 2020, 08:55:57 PM
“That's why I'm subscribed to Parler and Rumble. Watching newsmax and oan besides talk radio.”

Wow you guys are unreal.  Yes if you burrow deeply enough into extraordinarily biased web sites likenthose you listed in the quote, you can can reinforce your evho chambers of disinformation and laughable conspiracy theories.

Obviously anybody can say anything on a website or Twitter. When it gets to court there has to be some facts or evidence or these wild claims get  tossed.

Yes this is like administering medicine to the dead.  And you ill continue to insult me and others that do not have the same blinders on. How about some Aloha and an attempt at critical thinking?
Some of us don't like to bury our head in the sand. We like hearing truth and not lies. But pick your poison.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 29, 2020, 09:07:28 PM
How about...  an attempt at critical thinking?
So your version of "critical thinking", as applied by you, has led you to conclude exactly what about the hundreds of affidavits, sworn under penalty of perjury, submitted by first person eye-witnesses to various forms of vote tabulation "irregularities"?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 29, 2020, 11:59:13 PM
“That's why I'm subscribed to Parler and Rumble. Watching newsmax and oan besides talk radio.”

Wow you guys are unreal.  Yes if you burrow deeply enough into extraordinarily biased web sites likenthose you listed in the quote, you can can reinforce your evho chambers of disinformation and laughable conspiracy theories.

Obviously anybody can say anything on a website or Twitter. When it gets to court there has to be some facts or evidence or these wild claims get  tossed.

Yes this is like administering medicine to the dead.  And you ill continue to insult me and others that do not have the same blinders on. How about some Aloha and an attempt at critical thinking?

Do you have a point, or just here to stir the pot? 

Do you have evidence that refutes all the evidence posted here so far?

Did you even bother to read the articles and watch any of the videos, or are you simply dismissing it all out of hand as "extraordinarily biased?"

The Democrats have offered NO forensic, accounting or statistical evidence that disproves the claims made by the Republicans and many poll workers, fraud and computer experts, and voters.  Just because a judge dismisses a case doesn't make the claims baseless.  It just means the judge was not inclined to agree with the plaintiff.  There was no attempt to offer opposing evidence -- you know, like logs from voting machines and counting machines, chain of custody sheets for ballots, inventory sheets for USB drives, etc, etc, etc.

It's one thing to blast people for asking questions, but quite another to offer fact-based and substantiated answers that make logical sense.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 30, 2020, 11:44:56 AM


The Democrats have offered NO forensic, accounting or statistical evidence that disproves the claims made by the Republicans and many poll workers, fraud and computer experts, and voters.  Just because a judge dismisses a case doesn't make the claims baseless.  It just means the judge was not inclined to agree with the plaintiff.  There was no attempt to offer opposing evidence -- you know, like logs from voting machines and counting machines, chain of custody sheets for ballots, inventory sheets for USB drives, etc, etc, etc.


That's the beauty of being a democrat, you don't have to do anything to get the fake news and DNC judges on your side.  Dominion closed their offices and workers all jumped ship.  Nothing to see here.  Just waiting on a "fire" to start that will magically destroy all the machines.  Like how the Clintons had a fire in their cottage next to the main home.  And fire inspector report said tons of electronic equipment in that cottage.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 30, 2020, 11:45:28 AM
If the worst people in the world hate him then he must be doing something right.

This sums it up.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 30, 2020, 11:51:50 AM
HUGE Win For Trump As Judge Orders Dominion Voting Machines in GA IMPOUNDED!!!

https://youtu.be/0YH03jBS9NQ
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on November 30, 2020, 12:10:18 PM
HUGE Win For Trump As Judge Orders Dominion Voting Machines in GA IMPOUNDED!!!

https://youtu.be/0YH03jBS9NQ

Sorry I jinxed it with my post above.

On a side note, when the FBI raided Kamaina Termite, they were bringing out CPU towers and looked liked uploading them on site.  They had a tent set up next t a big van that had all kinds of wires going into it across the street.  And under the tent was a table with tons of wires.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on November 30, 2020, 12:15:06 PM
HUGE Win For Trump As Judge Orders Dominion Voting Machines in GA IMPOUNDED!!!

https://youtu.be/0YH03jBS9NQ

How is this a win?   They did a manual count and it didn't really change the vote.  It's clearly not the machines....
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 30, 2020, 12:15:31 PM
Sorry I jinxed it with my post above.

On a side note, when the FBI raided Kamaina Termite, they were bringing out CPU towers and looked liked uploading them on site.  They had a tent set up next t a big van that had all kinds of wires going into it across the street.  And under the tent was a table with tons of wires.
If there is a fire and all the dominion voting machines in GA are burned up, it’s YOUR fault!  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on November 30, 2020, 12:23:02 PM
If you can’t figure it out, maybe you should watch the video DUMBFUCK! He explains it quite clearly. Moron!

Can lead a horse to water ....

#LazyMillennials
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 30, 2020, 12:26:42 PM
Gina Haspel now?  ???
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 30, 2020, 12:28:51 PM
Gina Haspel now?  ???
???
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on November 30, 2020, 12:30:07 PM
???
Hold one. Trying to dig up “credible” info.

She might be next to be Killaried  :o
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on November 30, 2020, 12:34:39 PM
Hold one. Trying to dig up “credible” info.

She might be next to be Killaried  :o
Sidney Powell called for her to be fired on Maria yesterday.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 30, 2020, 04:35:34 PM
In National Survey Of Favorite Foods, Lukewarm Bowl Of Porridge Wins 80 Million Votes

November 30th, 2020

(https://i.imgur.com/sk5p170.png?1)

U.S.—In a surprise result from a national survey of favorite foods, the winner, with 80 million votes -- blowing away the previous record of 69 million votes -- was a lukewarm bowl of porridge. The soggy bowl of chopped grains has apparently exploded in popularity around the country and is now handily the most beloved food of all.

“I’m a little shocked,” said Nicolas Mills, who ran the survey. “I don’t think I’ve ever once seen anyone excited for porridge. Yet you can’t argue with these results. People love themselves a bowl of wheat and barley in milk that’s slightly above room temperature.”

Some think, though, that the result of the vote wasn’t about people’s love of porridge but was instead done to make sure a fried Twinkie wrapped in bacon -- which came in second with 74 million votes -- didn’t win. Many people thought the fried Twinkie wrapped in bacon was “awesome,” but perhaps an even larger segment thought it was “disgusting” and “obnoxious” and maybe chose the porridge in response.

This isn’t the first national food survey to end in controversy. The 2016 survey was accused of Russian influence in the voting even though Borscht didn’t do particularly well.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on November 30, 2020, 05:01:40 PM
“That's why I'm subscribed to Parler and Rumble. Watching newsmax and oan besides talk radio.”

Wow you guys are unreal.  Yes if you burrow deeply enough into extraordinarily biased web sites likenthose you listed in the quote, you can can reinforce your evho chambers of disinformation and laughable conspiracy theories.

Obviously anybody can say anything on a website or Twitter. When it gets to court there has to be some facts or evidence or these wild claims get  tossed.

Yes this is like administering medicine to the dead.  And you ill continue to insult me and others that do not have the same blinders on. How about some Aloha and an attempt at critical thinking?

So your version of "critical thinking", as applied by you, has led you to conclude exactly what about the hundreds of affidavits, sworn under penalty of perjury, submitted by first person eye-witnesses to various forms of vote tabulation "irregularities"?
Still waiting for your critical thinking evidence, reasoning and conclusions.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 01, 2020, 10:49:53 AM
So in AZ, only 1 county used Dominion (Maricopa) which pretty much determines the election. All the other 15 counties used other brands.  nUthiN 2 sEe HerE
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on December 01, 2020, 11:14:00 AM
Inb4 Barr is part of the conspiracy too.
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-elections-william-barr-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 01, 2020, 11:31:21 AM
Inb4 Barr is part of the conspiracy too.
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-elections-william-barr-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d

No "uncovered" evidence.  How can evidence be found if the Dominion machines have not been examined yet, Domionion workers have not answered any questions by officials?  You're blowing your wad too early.

Also Barr isn't a fan of  the 2a,  I know lots of Trump supporters who are not fans of Barrs.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 01, 2020, 11:57:33 AM
Inb4 Barr is part of the conspiracy too.
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-elections-william-barr-b1f1488796c9a98c4b1a9061a6c7f49d

There's no "widespread election fraud" being claimed on the pro-Trump side.  What's being claimed is there was fraud in a half dozen precincts in several states -- with questionable numbers of votes for Biden that are sufficient to swing the election.

Stop buying into the MSM narratives.  You need to be more independent than that.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on December 01, 2020, 11:59:21 AM
No "uncovered" evidence.  How can evidence be found if the Dominion machines have not been examined yet, Domionion workers have not answered any questions by officials?  You're blowing your wad too early.

Also Barr isn't a fan of  the 2a,  I know lots of Trump supporters who are not fans of Barrs.


Burden of evidence is on the accuser. Supporter of 2a or not he's the head of the justice department and worked with FBI etc.   Dominion Machines are already disproven in Georgia with hand count not changing the counts.  At this point its heading to moon landing conspiracy theory territory.  There's still a chance but its pretty danm slim.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 01, 2020, 12:00:23 PM
Follow the science...


'Biggest fraud' in US history—
up to 300,000 fake people voted in Arizona election: expert | NTD


https://youtu.be/kU5tQDwjOF8
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on December 01, 2020, 12:00:41 PM
There's no "widespread election fraud" being claimed on the pro-Trump side.  What's being claimed is there was fraud in a half dozen precincts in several states -- with questionable numbers of votes for Biden that are sufficient to swing the election.

Stop buying into the MSM narratives.  You need to be more independent than that.

Barr a republican appointed by Trump on a neutral news network posted it.  Also I believe his own words said it was not enough to swing the election.

I love that you post YouTube videos by "experts"  and none of these experts apparently know enough to convince anyone but you.  The entire justice system is unconvinced so far. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 01, 2020, 12:03:29 PM
Burden of evidence is on the accuser. Supporter of 2a or not he's the head of the justice department and worked with FBI etc.   Dominion Machines are already disproven in Georgia with hand count not changing the counts.  At this point its heading to moon landing conspiracy theory territory.  There's still a chance but its pretty danm slim.

Fucking stop it!  Now!

This is NOT YOUR THREAD.  Stop posting ARGUMENTATIVE COMMENTS.  There's already a thread for you you post those. 

This is a thread for sharing FACTS and news about ELECTION FRAUD EVIDENCE, NOT your OPINION.

How many times do you need to be reminded?  Are you really this impulsive and stupid?

 :stopjack:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 01, 2020, 12:03:51 PM
Barr a republican appointed by Trump on a neutral news network posted it.  Also I believe his own words said it was not enough to swing the election.

I love that you post YouTube videos by "experts"  and none of these experts apparently know enough to convince anyone but you.  The entire justice system is unconvinced so far.

Try watching that video.  It talks about statistics, not your feelings.

 :stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 01, 2020, 12:56:20 PM
https://youtu.be/HdvvC5bgaQY
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 01, 2020, 12:57:28 PM
So in AZ, only 1 county used Dominion (Maricopa) which pretty much determines the election. All the other 15 counties used other brands.  nUthiN 2 sEe HerE
Since Maricopa County comprises the vast majority of voters in the state I would not be surprised if there was some hanky lanky with the voting machines. But we’ll see.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 01, 2020, 01:14:53 PM
"There is no evidence" (because anyone who presents evidence is banned from social media and the mainstream media is all in on the steal, so they won't even cover any sworn-under-oath affidavit signers' testimony).

Twitter suspends Arizona voter fraud witness Bobby Piton after scathing testimony

https://noqreport.com/2020/11/30/twitter-suspends-arizona-voter-fraud-witness-bobby-piton-after-scathing-testimony/

Will Twitter claim this was another "accident" like they did with Doug Mastriano?

Big Tech tyranny is alive and well in Twitterville as they have suspended Bobby Piton, a pivotal witness in today’s voter fraud hearing before the Arizona state legislature. His searing testimony pointed out blatant voter fraud through incontrovertible evidence, at one point claiming he’d stake his life on the factual nature of his testimony.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 01, 2020, 01:27:19 PM
Burden of evidence is on the accuser. Supporter of 2a or not he's the head of the justice department and worked with FBI etc.   Dominion Machines are already disproven in Georgia with hand count not changing the counts.  At this point its heading to moon landing conspiracy theory territory.  There's still a chance but its pretty danm slim.

They finished examining the machines that were just subpoenaed yesterday?  Damn, they must work super fast in GA.

BTW, recounting does nothing if fraudulent ballots are still mixed with the non fraudulent ones.  The key is the envelopes and who is registered to vote and submitted a vote.  Recounts are just for show.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 01, 2020, 01:29:17 PM
Michigan Senate Hearing this morning. 

TONS OF EVIDENCE that the election was fraudulent.

https://youtu.be/eZXkAv7yKgw
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 01, 2020, 01:29:26 PM
"There is no evidence" (because anyone who presents evidence is banned from social media and the mainstream media is all in on the steal, so they won't even cover any sworn-under-oath affidavit signers' testimony).

Twitter suspends Arizona voter fraud witness Bobby Piton after scathing testimony

https://noqreport.com/2020/11/30/twitter-suspends-arizona-voter-fraud-witness-bobby-piton-after-scathing-testimony/

Will Twitter claim this was another "accident" like they did with Doug Mastriano?

Big Tech tyranny is alive and well in Twitterville as they have suspended Bobby Piton, a pivotal witness in today’s voter fraud hearing before the Arizona state legislature. His searing testimony pointed out blatant voter fraud through incontrovertible evidence, at one point claiming he’d stake his life on the factual nature of his testimony.

Being banned for those reasons do not exist according to 1.  Banns happen only by mistake.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 01, 2020, 01:31:54 PM
Being banned for those reasons do not exist according to 1.  Banns happen only by mistake.

It's a private company, not the government.  By definition, there's no right to be on Twitter.

If anyone still trusts Social Media enough to get their news there, they get the leadership they deserve.

Unfortunately, those idiots are taking us down with them.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 01, 2020, 02:46:25 PM
7-Hour Video of the Michigan State Hearing on Election Issues.

7 Hours of "No Evidence."     :crazy:

Michigan poll challenger, who was mistaken for a Democrat,
told to get Republican challengers out
   O0

https://youtu.be/-iPVL0UV9Kw
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 01, 2020, 03:43:26 PM

Michigan Witness Says All Military Ballots She Saw Looked Like “Xerox Copies” of Each Other – 100% For Joe Biden

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/michigan-witness-says-military-ballots-saw-looked-like-xerox-copies-100-joe-biden-video/

The Michigan Senate Oversight Committee on Tuesday held a hearing in Lansing on election fraud and irregularities.

President Trump was ahead of Joe Biden in Michigan on election night when all of a sudden they stopped counting votes.

At around 4:30 AM AFTER Election Day, a massive ballot dump of more than 130,000 votes appeared for Joe Biden in Michigan.

One witness on Tuesday said all of the military ballots she saw looked like “Xerox copies” of each other – none were registered Michigan voters and 100% went for Joe Biden.

The witness, Patty, described how elections officials overrode the system to enter non-registered voters – all for Joe Biden.

“Not one of the military ballots was a registered voter and the ballots looked like they were all exactly the same Xerox copies of the ballot – they were all for Biden across the board, there wasn’t a single Trump vote and none of the voters were registered, “witness Patty said. “They had to manually enter the names, addresses, enter birthdate of 1/1/2020 which would override the system and allow them to enter non-registered voters of which I saw several that day, throughout the day, that’s how they would override voters that were neither in the electronic poll book or in the supplemental updated poll book.”

Video embedded in Team Trump tweet:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1333816290708951041

(https://i.imgur.com/zs8QYrb.png?1)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 01, 2020, 03:47:31 PM

Dominion-Trained IT Contractor Blows Up Michigan Hearing, ‘They Were Re-Scanning, Counting Ballots 8 to 10 Times’

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/dominion-trained-contractor-blows-michigan-hearing-re-scanning-counting-ballots-8-10-times-video/

The Michigan Senate Oversight Committee on Tuesday held a hearing in Lansing on election fraud and irregularities.

A Dominion-trained IT contractor named Melissa Carone absolutely blew up the Michigan hearing on Tuesday.

Melissa Carone dropped many truth bombs, blew the whistle on Dominion workers and revealed ballots were being tabulated in the Department of Elections which is completely illegal.

Ms. Carone stunned the Michigan state lawmakers when she revealed there were tabulation machines at the Department of Elections.

Carone wasn’t even supposed to talk about it today. She said it was supposed to be revealed next week but she blew the whistle today anyway.

Carone also revealed that batches of ballots were being scanned 8-10 ten times.

Ballots are supposed to drop into a sealed box after being scanned through the tabulating machine, however Melissa Carone said the ballots were accessible to the election worker after being scanned through the machine. She said the boxes that were supposed to receive the scanned ballots were moved to another part of the room and used to block poll observers.

Melissa Carone also said one of the Dominion workers disappeared to a “warehouse” for several hours right before a big data dump for Joe Biden.

Melissa Carone gave a very compelling testimony and stunned the lawmakers sitting on the panel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwbJqPlXHI&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 01, 2020, 03:58:41 PM
Attorney Phil Kline, former Kansas AG, working for the Thomas More Society’s Amistad Project today introduced two eye witnesses with sworn affidavits.

Trump Attorney Phil Kline: Two Trailers Full of Completed Ballots Were Delivered to Pennsylvania from NY — One on November 4th!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/trump-attorney-phil-kline-two-trailers-full-completed-ballots-delivered-pennsylvania-ny-one-november-4th-video/

Attorney Phillip Kline with the Amistad Project joined Lou Dobbs on Tuesday following the explosive hearing this afternoon in Arlington, Virginia.

Kline earlier at his press conference introduced two different USPS contract truck drivers who went public after they found it “unusual” and were concerned when they realized that had transferred completed ballots and fraudulent ballots to stops in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

On Tuesday night Kline described one load that was delivered to Pennsylvania in October and a second load of completed ballots that were delivered to Pennsylvania on November 4th to Delaware County.

This is outrageous Democrat corruption!

The two truck drivers and AMERICAN HEROES spoke today at the press conference.

According to Kline these shipments happened several times — hundreds of thousands of ballots!

Democrats are about to be outed for their crimes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRfF5WePmRo&feature=emb_logo








Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 01, 2020, 04:41:53 PM
No proof still. Hhahaha

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 01, 2020, 06:36:09 PM
I wish I had even just a tiny little bit of evidence that the FBI is on the side of the average American citizen and would act accordingly (they had Hunter Biden's laptop for 9 months, nothing but crickets, before others got the info and made it public).

Data Strategist Matt Braynard Tells Lou Dobbs — ‘We have turned over evidence of electoral fraud to the FBI’…

Lou Dobbs — ‘Former Trump data strategist Matt Braynard discovers thousands of illegally cast mail-in ballots and hands over evidence of electoral fraud to the FBI.’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUzCh9qwBf8&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on December 01, 2020, 06:57:14 PM
Snort, the FBI.....

Anyone really have U.S. Gov info on just who is responsible to investigate election fraud?  No, I do not trust the FBI do do a damn thing.  Certainly not the DoJ.
They are corrupt to the core, as the IRS-Lerner, PIAPS fiascos showed.

FBI, SS/Treasury, Dept of Agriculture, Dept of State (LOL!),  Dept of Education. etc? 

Anyone, or as that corrupt slob algore said:"No controlling legal authority"

Get out of jail free card........
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 01, 2020, 07:15:19 PM
Snort, the FBI.....

Anyone really have U.S. Gov info on just who is responsible to investigate election fraud?  No, I do not trust the FBI do do a damn thing.  Certainly not the DoJ.
They are corrupt to the core, as the IRS-Lerner, PIAPS fiascos showed.

FBI, SS/Treasury, Dept of Agriculture, Dept of State (LOL!),  Dept of Education. etc? 

Anyone, or as that corrupt slob algore said:"No controlling legal authority"

Get out of jail free card........

Unless federal election laws are broken, or there is a "credible" allegation that law enforcement for the state is ignoring complaints and failing to investigate, it's up to the states to take complaints.  Depending on the allegation, it'll be handled by the same corrupt government that allowed the election violations to occur from the start.

You'll be advised as to the outcome of an investigation as soon as the report of "no evidence found" is filed.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on December 01, 2020, 07:35:06 PM
Unless federal election laws are broken, or there is a "credible" allegation that law enforcement for the state is ignoring complaints and failing to investigate, it's up to the states to take complaints.  Depending on the allegation, it'll be handled by the same corrupt government that allowed the election violations to occur from the start.

IOW, a "Get out of Jail Free" card, the fix is in and no one will do a damn thing.

That meme of the veteran wanting to know "when we can go f*ck shit up ?" comes to mind when the gubermint refuses to do a thing.

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 01, 2020, 07:46:33 PM
I'm watching the MI Hearing just about 3 hours into it.

This is where yet another GOP poll worker was talking about the constant harassment of GOP workers.  The Democrats running the show were getting GOP workers kicked out BY THE POLICE one by one.  Then, it was his turn.  He was threatened by the supervisor that he'd kick the Republican's ass or get him kicked out.  This, after a counting worker came up to him to instigate a loud argument.  Once the supervisor was involved, the counter melded back into the group.

His characterization is that there were a lot of experienced instigators their who were there to set up conflicts, then supervisors who would blame the GOP worker and have them removed.  They had it down to a science.

Sounds like ANTIFA.  They goad, harass, threaten, and assault people.  As soon as the person tries to retaliate or defend themselves, that snippet of video is used to get the person arrested -- at the very least posted online to push a narrative and try to get the person fired, etc.

Same tactics, same people.  The witness also said several members of the counting teams wore BLM masks, T-Shirts, etc.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 01, 2020, 08:16:36 PM
My new Michigan Hero ....   :love:

https://youtu.be/MCWE9Qi84I8
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on December 01, 2020, 08:47:01 PM
I just kicked out Joe Biden but he forgot his double barrelled shotgun. Guess I found a genuWine AR14!  chee hoo! :love:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Mini14GB.jpg/1200px-Mini14GB.jpg)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 01, 2020, 10:43:08 PM
I just kicked out Joe Biden but he forgot his double barrelled shotgun. Guess I found a genuWine AR14!  chee hoo! :love:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Mini14GB.jpg/1200px-Mini14GB.jpg)

This is not the Drunken Posting thread .....   :crazy:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 02, 2020, 03:10:38 AM
Typical. The Main Stream Media lied about Barr’s statement. Read what Barr REALLY said:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/doj-fires-back-at-news-orgs-claiming-voter-fraud-probes-are-over-thats-not-what-ag-barr-said

Anyone who believes the MSM is telling the truth is an idiot womble.

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 02, 2020, 07:32:32 AM
Typical. The Main Stream Media lied about Barr’s statement. Read what Barr REALLY said:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/doj-fires-back-at-news-orgs-claiming-voter-fraud-probes-are-over-thats-not-what-ag-barr-said

Anyone who believes the MSM is telling the truth is an idiot womble.
Barr is a do-nothing lying fat sack of shit. He organized former AGs to provide legal assistance beyond the already-government-paid-for team of attorneys providing bullshit cover for FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi who murdered Vicki Weaver at Ruby Ridge as she stood on the house porch holding a baby. Fuck Barr.

I know.  :stopjack:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 02, 2020, 08:38:23 AM
Barr is a do-nothing lying fat sack of shit. He organized former AGs to provide legal assistance beyond the already-government-paid-for team of attorneys providing bullshit cover for FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi who murdered Vicki Weaver at Ruby Ridge as she stood on the house porch holding a baby. Fuck Barr.

I know.  :stopjack:
I didn’t know that about Barr.

I knew Barr was a lying sack of shit when he said there is not enough evidence to bring charges against Killary. But of course other lying sacks of shit believe him and the main stream media.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 02, 2020, 08:59:33 AM
Typical. The Main Stream Media lied about Barr’s statement. Read what Barr REALLY said:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/doj-fires-back-at-news-orgs-claiming-voter-fraud-probes-are-over-thats-not-what-ag-barr-said

Anyone who believes the MSM is telling the truth is an idiot womble.

Check my reply to Omni.  He also got the same idea cause Barr said they have not found anything, even though machines were just subpoenaed 18 hours prior. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 02, 2020, 09:00:06 AM
Barr is a do-nothing lying fat sack of shit. He organized former AGs to provide legal assistance beyond the already-government-paid-for team of attorneys providing bullshit cover for FBI sniper Lon Horiuchi who murdered Vicki Weaver at Ruby Ridge as she stood on the house porch holding a baby. Fuck Barr.

I know.  :stopjack:

Don't forget he was also at Waco.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on December 02, 2020, 09:05:29 AM
Check my reply to Omni.  He also got the same idea cause Barr said they have not found anything, even though machines were just subpoenaed 18 hours prior.
Just because evidence isn't public, doesn't mean something didn't happen. . . just sayin'. . .
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 02, 2020, 09:23:49 AM
Check my reply to Omni.  He also got the same idea cause Barr said they have not found anything, even though machines were just subpoenaed 18 hours prior.
I saw your reply to him. He believes the lying main stream media. That is his prerogative. But it just makes him look foolish because they purposely misquote and misinterpret the words Barr said in order to continue with their lying agenda. The article I posted just proves my point. The DOJ also stated they are sending agents out to some of the polling sites. For what reason, I don’t know. If they are not investigating widespread fraud then there is no reason to do that. Bigger picture...

The truth and the bigger picture gets lost on that guy.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 02, 2020, 09:28:15 AM
Don't forget he was also at Waco.
Yeah, there's no official record if Horiuchi murdered anyone at Waco... maybe they called in the flamethrower tank to kill those 80 people before he got to execute the Rules of Engagement (which at Ruby Ridge were, "if you see ’em, shoot ’em.”) Five FBI SWAT team members took the Fifth Amendment rather than answer any questions about what happened at Ruby Ridge. Anyone really think Barr and the FBI are seriously looking at the election fraud and "irregularities" instigated by the "deep state" operatives who hate Trump (and had Hunter Biden's laptop for 10 months without a peep before Giuliani et al. released the contents)?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 02, 2020, 11:30:09 AM
Yeah, there's no official record if Horiuchi murdered anyone at Waco... maybe they called in the flamethrower tank to kill those 80 people before he got to execute the Rules of Engagement (which at Ruby Ridge were, "if you see ’em, shoot ’em.”) Five FBI SWAT team members took the Fifth Amendment rather than answer any questions about what happened at Ruby Ridge. Anyone really think Barr and the FBI are seriously looking at the election fraud and "irregularities" instigated by the "deep state" operatives who hate Trump (and had Hunter Biden's laptop for 10 months without a peep before Giuliani et al. released the contents)?

No shots on record fired by him, but he was there too.  Even the TV series on Waco had an Asian guy.  It's all in the details.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: MauiAxis on December 02, 2020, 12:00:49 PM
Hey puna
“Still waiting for your critical thinking evidence, reasoning and conclusions.”
Sorry i have not had time to respond to your request yet.  Some of us still have to work, i will circle back to you when I have some down time. Mahalo.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 02, 2020, 06:08:35 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/XS7o6km.png?1)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 02, 2020, 06:15:20 PM
The President's speech tonight. Current "views" are 3,328,782 views. People have been tracking that number all night and the number goes up and then goes down, repeatedly. At least the video itself is still up. So far. I mean replete with warnings that the election has been decided and it was all fair and square. Goddamn I hate those people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=720O_yBLrTs&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on December 02, 2020, 07:14:46 PM
The President's speech tonight. Current "views" are 3,328,782 views. People have been tracking that number all night and the number goes up and then goes down, repeatedly. At least the video itself is still up. So far. I mean replete with warnings that the election has been decided and it was all fair and square. Goddamn I hate those people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=720O_yBLrTs&feature=emb_logo

You hate most of America and a decent chunk of the GOP then... that's alot of people. 

You think if he had so much evidence he should be winning in court....
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 02, 2020, 10:00:21 PM
You hate most of America and a decent chunk of the GOP then... that's alot of people. 

You think if he had so much evidence he should be winning in court....

GODDAMIT, DUMBASS.

I'm through asking if you really are so stupid that you can't control trying to hijack this thread.  it's obvious you are.

Just stop it.  Again!!

 :stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 03, 2020, 07:28:30 AM
Why was my response to the idiot removed?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on December 03, 2020, 08:41:57 AM
GODDAMIT, DUMBASS.

I'm through asking if you really are so stupid that you can't control trying to hijack this thread.  it's obvious you are.

Just stop it.  Again!!

 :stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack:

I've said this before and will again.  Evidence is evidence.  This is the election fraud evidence thread.  It does not say Only proof of pro election fraud evidence thread.   Evidence of it not being election fraud technically fits in this thread.  I try and stay to the other thread but when i see some ridiculous stuff I just can't ignore it.   And yes trumps video filled with his fake news is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 03, 2020, 09:49:47 AM
I've said this before and will again.  Evidence is evidence.  This is the election fraud evidence thread.  It does not say Only proof of pro election fraud evidence thread.   Evidence of it not being election fraud technically fits in this thread.  I try and stay to the other thread but when i see some ridiculous stuff I just can't ignore it.   And yes trumps video filled with his fake news is ridiculous.

Stop arguing when you know you're lying.

You hate most of America and a decent chunk of the GOP then... that's alot of people. 

You think if he had so much evidence he should be winning in court....

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what EVIDENCE?

There is no evidence in your comment. There is only YOUR OPINION!

STOP IT NOW!

 :stopjack: :stopjack: :stopjack:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Brystont1 on December 03, 2020, 09:58:03 AM
https://youtu.be/fgBwW0FpMeE

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 03, 2020, 10:04:11 AM
Trump's comment this morning on Barr's lack of investigation of allegations and evidence of election fraud and irregularities. I really like the three second frozen pause after the "Do you have confidence in Barr?" question, as he ponders what he can actually say as opposed to what he really thinks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGZZuP_gx4g&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: astroboy on December 03, 2020, 10:12:24 AM
from 2012, the Savage nation: Joseph Stalin on those who count the vote

https://youtu.be/7Sb-eNku-54



 

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 03, 2020, 10:39:48 AM
Listening to the live stream of the Georgia Senate Judiciary Committee meeting.

The state employee testifying is compelling. 

One thing that struck me:  24 employees at the ballot warehouse were OUT due to COVID-19.  They were replaced with Dominion Voting Systems employees.

Dominion employees had NO experience running an election in Georgia, and they had no training on the laws and rules for processing.  The chain of custody for ballots was nonexistent.  Ballots that were supposed to be set aside as spoiled were in boxes right next to the good ballots to count.  She was the only one who thought to tear those so they can't be fed into the counters.  After a day, the supervisor said she checked, and that was the correct thing to be doing.  Only NO OTHER WORKERS were told to tear spoiled ballots before or after that conversation.  Anyone could have accessed those stacks and run them through for counting.  Spoiled just means something about them made them invalid.  Could be signatures, dates received, etc.  But the ballot itself could be scanned without problems.

Her testimony listed problem after problem.  Fraud was not alleged.  Simply that the entire process, including Dominion having so much control over the physical and software resources, meant security was poor.  As she stated, anyone could have accessed ballots at multiple points during their handling, and there was no way to tell if it happened and no way to prevent it.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on December 03, 2020, 11:17:31 AM
fake?
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10221045904008957&set=pcb.10221045904288964
https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/129508063_10221045904048958_5045408081937260819_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=TTzf8PgACWEAX-wddf8&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=db5593ed979e1139f8102c722e582f26&oe=5FEDCCA3
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on December 03, 2020, 11:29:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keANzinHWUA
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on December 03, 2020, 11:44:16 AM
Why was my response to the idiot removed?
I would like to know why that little pissant has not been removed?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 03, 2020, 11:48:57 AM
fake?
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10221045904008957&set=pcb.10221045904288964
https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/129508063_10221045904048958_5045408081937260819_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=TTzf8PgACWEAX-wddf8&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=db5593ed979e1139f8102c722e582f26&oe=5FEDCCA3

I would say FAKE.

The letter states Dominion is listed on the New York Stock Exchange with ticker symbol "D".  Symbol "D" is used by a different company, Dominion Energy, and public news reports correctly state that Dominion Voting is a private company -- so no stock ticker symbol.

If they got the basics wrong, then the rest is 99%+ likely to be fake, too.

If they WERE on the exchange, there would be filings with the SEC to verify what was posted.  Not on the exchange = no requirement to file such changes in company officers.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 03, 2020, 11:53:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keANzinHWUA

There is no proof what was in those suit cases because the video is not zoomed in close enough.  It could be mass mailers for a Chinese take out restaurant.  Also the location could have been altered.  What we are watching could be the back of the Chinese restaurant, their marketing department.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 03, 2020, 11:57:01 AM
There is no proof what was in those suit cases because the video is not zoomed in close enough.  It could be mass mailers for a Chinese take out restaurant.  Also the location could have been altered.  What we are watching could be the back of the Chinese restaurant, their marketing department.

She's testifying to what witnesses have sworn in affidavits. 

What she testified to must be taken as the truth in absence of evidence to the contrary.

BTW, the photos are panned out showing the same ugly-ass carpet as the one zoomed in.  Have to stipulate it's the same location -- not a Chinese menu printing activity -- because nobody would have the exact same ugly-ass carpet!   :geekdanc: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 03, 2020, 12:13:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keANzinHWUA

If that's not proof of election tampering, nothing is.

As the person giving testimony said, that number of people working for that number of hours would have been able to scan enough ballots to swing the election to Biden giving him the margin of victory Georgia reported.  That's 3 machines x 3000 ballots/hour x 2 hrs = 9,000 ballots/hour x 2 hours = 18,000 ballots total over 2 hours.

Quote
A "risk-limiting audit" found Biden won Georgia by 12,284 votes, a narrower margin than the 14,196-vote lead he held immediately following the election.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 03, 2020, 01:06:03 PM


n -- not a Chinese menu printing activity -- because nobody would have the exact same ugly-ass carpet!   :geekdanc: :thumbsup:

Don't underestimate the pakeness of pake's.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on December 03, 2020, 01:07:03 PM
Don't underestimate the pakeness of pake's.

you paken waycist....
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 03, 2020, 01:12:48 PM
Don't underestimate the pakeness of pake's.

Stipulated .... BUT

You can't watch the video and say it was anything OTHER than the counting rooms for the election.

Not unless Chinese Menus have 2020 General Election ballots printed on them.   :crazy:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 03, 2020, 01:14:38 PM
Don't underestimate the pakeness of pake's.
Money makes the world go round for them

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on December 03, 2020, 02:19:12 PM
Money makes the world go round for them

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my cousin explaining
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_KpLrHCAx0
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Kuleana on December 03, 2020, 02:32:33 PM
Don't underestimate the pakeness of pake's.
That's why they are poised to be the most dominant nation, in this century, and will forever be the oldest surviving human civilization, on this planet.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on December 03, 2020, 02:35:19 PM
That's why they are poised to be the most dominant nation, in this century, and will forever be the oldest surviving human civilization, on this planet.
Qing or Manchu? 

I vote for Egyptians. . .

But I digress. . .  ;D

Anyways  :stopjack:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 03, 2020, 02:52:11 PM
This is what REAL voter suppression looks like ...

https://youtu.be/ByMv6Y4klGg
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on December 03, 2020, 03:17:56 PM
testimony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vjy3rCnmgE

I'm so disgusted. I'm tired.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 03, 2020, 03:34:36 PM
testimony

I'm so disgusted. I'm tired.

For the committee member that complained about "These people are not sworn in," and are lying, and "I only see one Detroiter in the group..."

First, every single one of them signed affidavits of their testimony under penalty of perjury.

Second, why did she not insist on swearing in the witnesses BEFORE giving testimony?

And third, the whole city of Detroit is corrupt.  It appears to take non-Detroiters to blow the whistle on them.  Duh!!

I'm sure she had ample opportunity to submit her own list of "Detroiters" to testify, but then they would all be subject to perjury laws, too.  Any takers, you think?

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on December 03, 2020, 04:04:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQsNkt9yuKI
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 03, 2020, 04:52:37 PM
...

From an IT perspective, there are lots of real points touched on in that video that should have been addressed for real long ago.

The States run their own elections.  Why would the Feds provide funding for those elections?  The Feds f*uck up everything they try to control, and funding gives them a hook into controlling state elections.  So ... no!
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 03, 2020, 07:58:26 PM
If Kemp is taking action, after his hiding in his basement for a month, you know something is up (let's see if he actually follows up or if he's just flapping his lips before the President arrives on Saturday)... but, I'm sure the video with the 4 suitcases of ballots being opened when there are no observers present is all above board... right?

Governor Kemp Calls on Secretary of State Raffensperger to Call for a “Signature Audit” in the State

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-governor-kemp-calls-secretary-state-raffensperger-call-signature-audit-state/

Then earlier today video was released of Democrat operatives removing GOP observers on election night and then pulling out SUITCASES FULL OF BALLOTS to steal the Georgia election from Donald Trump!

Tonight crooked Governor Brian Kemp from Georgia told Laura Ingraham he is calling on his derelict Secretary of State to call for a “Signature audit” of the votes.

He was willing to allow the fraud to slide until today’s video.

Kemp is either caught up in this scandal or he is extremely weak.

Video as embedded in tweet: https://twitter.com/i/status/1334569329334083586
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 04, 2020, 07:32:19 AM
Submitted to the court... I hear that in Nevada there's a higher chance (than the other swing states) of getting a local judge who might be fair in examining the evidence...

(https://i.imgur.com/L8Om2PB.png?1)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 04, 2020, 07:38:06 AM
Video testimony of numerous sworn affidavit-signing eyewitnesses to vote tabulation irregularities or outright fraud, the full PA and AZ hearings, and President Trump's speech of two days ago. All in one convenient location.

https://fraudscrookscriminals.com/2020/12/03/
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 04, 2020, 08:00:51 AM
Just some right wing news guy reporting a likely unsubstantiated Russian disinformation counterintelligence psy op... but... maybe not. Note that a Democrat claimed "that's already been debunked!" even though the evidence had been made available at 11 PM the night before and it was only noon of the next day. I guess they spew the talking points regardless of the facts. Maybe she meant "Even someone before me has claimed that evidence has been debunked".

Trump Team Has Dominion Machine from Small Georgia County – Shows Votes Flipped from Trump to Biden

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-huge-trump-team-dominion-machine-small-georgia-county-shows-votes-flipped-trump-biden/

The Trump team has obtained a Dominion voting machine in Georgia.  The machine shows votes were moved from President Trump to Joe Biden.  BOOM.

Yesterday on the War Room it was reported that the Trump team has obtained a Dominion voting machine in Georgia:

At the 52:30 mark in the video below, John Fredericks shares the news on the War Room with Steve Bannon:

According to Fredericks, there were 37 votes that flipped in this small Georgia County on the machine.  However, this represents only .26% of the Georgia ballots.  When extrapolating to the entire state, this equals more than 14,000 votes and Georgia was stolen by only 10,000 votes by Biden.

Video embedded in tweet. Start at 52:30

https://t.co/NFCygALvGk?amp=1

or here, time stamped:

https://youtu.be/HwL8EfOt2Ks?t=3149

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 04, 2020, 09:59:04 AM
Okay, I admit this is peripheral evidence of fraud/irregularities in the Presidential election, but still... where there's smoke...

138,000 Kids Suddenly Added To Santa's Nice List In Middle Of Night

December 4th, 2020

(https://i.imgur.com/2PuHZMh.png?1)

NORTH POLE—Santa Claus's nice list is said to be run on trustworthy software, safe and secure on an unhackable server under his workshop.

But some are questioning the legitimacy of the nice list after the tally suddenly spiked in the middle of the night, adding over 138,000 kids to the good side of the list.

After sorting kids according to their niceness or naughtiness for hours, Santa had abruptly stopped counting and gone to bed, saying he was tired and taking a break for the night, even though he is magical and does not need to sleep.

A team of unsupervised elves reportedly continued the counting against North Pole guidelines, and around 3 a.m. there was a sudden dump of over 138,000 kids put on the nice list. The software also switched kids over from the naughty to the nice list at random.

Big Tech companies quickly fact-checked the claim, assuring parents and children that the sudden jump of hundreds of thousands of kids added to the nice list is a normal part of kid sorting and that Santa's methods are trustworthy and reliable.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: GlockNewb on December 04, 2020, 10:17:28 AM
Oh Georgia, Georgia...

https://youtu.be/-lRfVS_aNX8
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 04, 2020, 11:05:43 AM
Oh Georgia, Georgia...

One female Democrat Representative in the hearing tried to say the Secretary of State had already debunked the story in the video.  Some of the SOS people actually testified to the opposite (nobody was running ballots without supervision at State Farm Center).

None of those people had seen the video, since it was just provided to the Republican team the night before. 

Or, had they?

It took over a month for the video to be made available to the people looking for evidence of fraud.  No one in government ever made that footage available to the public.  It took a private lawyer to present the evidence to the Georgia lawmakers.

Accusations of the late night, unobserved, unmonitored counting session of ballots hidden under a table came out soon after the election.  This was not a new "thing".  My sinister mind tells me the SOS had the video yet released a "debunked" statement 180 degrees from what the video shows to deny the truth. 

Now that the bombshell video is public, and the Georgia SOS testifiers could not have possibly debunked the story told on the video THAT NONE OF THOSE PEOPLE COULD HAVE POSSIBLY WATCHED unless they kept quiet about seeing it, it "feels" like the lawmakers are seriously taking a look at what they can do at this stage in terms of the electors.

The Republicans in the hearing said they haven't received calls from their constituents on any other issue like they have on this election.  The vast majority of those contacting representatives have no confidence that the election was honest and they feel the results can't be trusted.

The Democrat woman I mentioned thinks there was no reason for having that hearing at all .... for any reason .... move along.   :wacko:

I also feel that the only reason the video survived a Democrat "Oopsie!  My bad!" Bleach Bit accident is that the counting occurred in State Farm Stadium, and the government has no legal or physical access to the security areas where the video recordings are kept.  Good thing for the country, no one in the counting room knew what a camera looks like.   :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 04, 2020, 11:30:25 AM
Updates for some of the lawsuits progressing in some states. I really like this guy. I think he is being forthcoming with the information we are waiting to hear about. Along with his narrative of what it all means. Based on the judges rulings, there looks like there is a chance Trump can still win the election. But certain cards have to fall in place before that happens.

It’s HAPPENING! Trumps legal team and the other legal teams are closing in on the Democrats:

https://youtu.be/jv1xOO7lKfg
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 04, 2020, 11:48:04 AM
My friend on FB posted the vid. He's a gun owner also.  FB had a "fact check" warning that basically stated no context for the vid. It's not possible to see clearly that those are ballots.  Which what I was saying  a some post ago would be the excuse.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 04, 2020, 12:02:10 PM
My friend on FB posted the vid. He's a gun owner also.  FB had a "fact check" warning that basically stated no context for the vid. It's not possible to see clearly that those are ballots.  Which what I was saying  a some post ago would be the excuse.
Yep. They (state officials) checked it all out. Nothing to see here. It's all legit. Those are the normal ballot transportation containers, hidden stored in the normal place beneath a table. Well, except for saying they were closing due to a water leak that never happened and removing all the reporters and observers. Oh, wait, that never happened either. Everything you know is wrong.


Raffensperger Responds To Video — ‘Those were not suitcases, and it wasn’t fraud’…

Griff Jenkins [Faux News reporter], after speaking with Georgia officials, said on Friday morning that reports claiming the video showed unsupervised voter fraud were “simply not true.”

“I just got off the phone with a senior source in the Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger’s office, who says they had a designated observer at that spot all night, the entire time, and they’ve seen this video, they’re familiar with the claims, and they said that they’re simply not true,” Jenkins said in a report on Friday morning. “The suggestion that Georgia vote counters were sent home and ballots were brought in in suitcases, also not true.”

“What appears is reported as suitcases are actually the normal containers that ballots are put in,” he continued. “That is not unusual, they say, for them.”

“If you look at the videotape, the work you see is the work you would expect, which is you take the sealed suitcase looking things in, you place the ballots on the scanner in manageable batches and you scan them,” Sterling said.

Frances Watson, the chief investigator for the Georgia secretary of state office, confirmed that the containers seen in the video weren’t suitcases, but rather the normal bins used for the ballot counting process.

“There wasn’t a bin that had ballots in it under that table. It was an empty bin and the ballots from it were actually out on the table when the media were still there, and then it was placed back into the box when the media were still there and placed next to the table.”

Watson added that the media were never told to leave as the claims indicate, but rather that the location “was still open for them or the public to come back in to view at whatever time they wanted to, as long as [election workers] were still working.” She said that the ballots that had already been opened in front of the observers were the only ones scanned after the media and other observers left.

The office of Georgia’s Republican Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger, has already looked into the claims, and found nothing, WSB, the ABC affiliate in Atlanta reported.  ‘The 90 second video of election workers at State Farm arena, purporting to show fraud was watched in its entirety (hours) by @GaSecofState investigators. Shows normal ballot processing. Here is the fact check on it,’ he tweeted.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 04, 2020, 12:32:03 PM
"90 Second video?"  LOL!  I guess they are counting on the press to parrot these lies, and the public to be too disinterested to watch the video for themselves.

The video shown in the hearing spanned over 2 hours of elapsed time where it can be seen that the place was effectively shutdown until after the observers were gone.  Only then did the Pelican cases come out from under the table, where no other ballots had been taken and processed the entire day.  The table was put in place at 08:22 AM.  The team didn't have time to watch the entire recording between then and 10:30 PM to see when the cases were placed under the table, but that's next on their to-do list. 

Why have tablecloths on some tables and not others?  When counting money, ballots, or anything of value, businesses do not put anything on the tables that might obscure them from observation.  Common sense.  The fewer places people can hide what they are doing, the lower the risk that someone will try to do just that.

Who are we supposed to believe .... you, or my lying eyes?   :wacko:

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 04, 2020, 12:38:36 PM
Reminds me of  a friend who found another girls underwear in her bf's room.  He denied knowing how it got there.  Maybe it got mixed up in the laundry and a panty was added in his 3 pack of underwear by mistake at the factory.  Cause he does wash them before using, so didn't notice the extra panty inside the package when dumping the entire package into his laundry basket.  Or maybe was from an ex gf long time ago and didn't find it until now.  Could be a friend playing a joke on him and left it behind knowing his gf would find it.

She broke up with him.

See how anything can be covered up by an explanation that sounds reasonable.

 I remember being at a hearing to testify and the case before me had a guy busted for having meth on him at a park.  The defense atty asked the cop how he tested the contents of the pipe (scrapings). Cop said he used a paperclip to scrape the residue off the pipe.  Defense atty then asked where he got the paper clip from and if it was in a sterile container prior to him taking 1 and if he kept it in a sterile container in his car.  Cop said he got it from the box at another cops desk.  For all we know, the guy packing the paper clips at the plant could have been smoking meth at the time, so there was a transfer.  The judge didn't believe the defense atty.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 04, 2020, 01:41:29 PM
Reminds me of  a friend who found another girls underwear in her bf's room.  He denied knowing how it got there.  Maybe it got mixed up in the laundry and a panty was added in his 3 pack of underwear by mistake at the factory.  Cause he does wash them before using, so didn't notice the extra panty inside the package when dumping the entire package into his laundry basket.  Or maybe was from an ex gf long time ago and didn't find it until now.  Could be a friend playing a joke on him and left it behind knowing his gf would find it.

She broke up with him.

See how anything can be covered up by an explanation that sounds reasonable.

 I remember being at a hearing to testify and the case before me had a guy busted for having meth on him at a park.  The defense atty asked the cop how he tested the contents of the pipe (scrapings). Cop said he used a paperclip to scrape the residue off the pipe.  Defense atty then asked where he got the paper clip from and if it was in a sterile container prior to him taking 1 and if he kept it in a sterile container in his car.  Cop said he got it from the box at another cops desk.  For all we know, the guy packing the paper clips at the plant could have been smoking meth at the time, so there was a transfer.  The judge didn't believe the defense atty.

"Reasonable man" standard.  No matter how many lies they come up with to explain away the evidence, it's hard to argue with the facts as testified to by many, many witnesses.  The lady presenting the video said reporters told her someone was still counting after everyone left, and she rushed down there just as everyone was almost gone.  She spoke to one of the workers who confirmed they had been counting ballots.  No Chinese Menus were involved.   :rofl:  Why would she return if they left of their own accord and not that they were told to leave?

There are enough reporters and observers to testify to what they were told when they left that day.  Do these state officials really think no one will contradict their lies?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 04, 2020, 02:02:46 PM


  Do these state officials really think no one will contradict their lies?

Yes they do, because there are many suffering from TDS and lack of critical thinking that will believe them and anything they say.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 04, 2020, 03:15:18 PM
In all those 20 binders, it's all fake. Figures. Obama appointed judge in Nevada denies case. On to the state supreme court.

(https://i.imgur.com/ikfmAey.png?1)

Obama Judge in Nevada Denies Trump Campaign’s Lawsuit – Ignores 20 Books Full of Evidence

Another win for the fraud and criminal conduct.

Judge James Russell tossed the Trump Campaigns lawsuit on Friday.

The Trump campaign presented over 20 binders of evidence to a court in Nevada earlier this week calling for the state to overturn the fraudulent election.

In his decision Judge James Russell ruled the mountain of evidence presented by the Trump campaign to “have little value.”

Judge James Russell is an Obama appointee.

This is just the latest evidence that Democrats approve of and promote election fraud.

The Nevada Independent reported:

President Donald Trump’s legal effort to overturn presidential results in Nevada has fallen short after a Carson City District Court judge rejected his team’s request to award the state’s six electoral votes to the incumbent.

Judge James Russell ruled Friday against the Trump campaign’s unprecedented request to either block certification of the state’s presidential election results or award the state’s electoral votes to Trump, saying in a written order that the campaign’s claims of voter fraud to the level needed to bring the state’s presidential results into question fell far short of the evidentiary standard needed to contest the results of the presidential election.

In his 35-page order, Russell wrote that he found the evidence offered by the Trump campaign to have “little to no value,” and failed to provide under any standard of proof that the campaign’s long list of alleged fraud and vote irregularities could be backed up under any evidentiary standard.

Tweet with a few seconds of video re the binders: https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1334593336120733696?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1334995729576833027%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2020%2F12%2Fobama-judge-nevada-denies-trump-campaigns-lawsuit-ignores-20-books-full-evidence%2F
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 05, 2020, 03:54:15 AM
Enjoy!
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 05, 2020, 10:30:21 AM
"Election tampering" is the new "voter fraud."

As usual, the press decided long ago to label all accusations of election crimes as "fraud", so when it's finally discovered and proven, they can still report "no voter fraud."

The video from GA is an example.  Obvious evidence of election tampering.  The law was ignored (no GOP or press observers) while 18K-24K ballots were scanned by 3 counters. 

Were the ballots all for Biden?  According to what I saw reported, there was  12:25-ish update in the tally that showed Biden's numbers jumped by roughly the amount claimed to be scanned at the State Farm Stadium at that same time.  Haven't verified it, but if true, is shows the results of the secretive counting session swung the election to Biden.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on December 05, 2020, 01:37:10 PM
Remember that whole omg they kicked out the poll watchers and suit case conspiracy?

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/04/facebook-posts/no-georgia-election-workers-didnt-kick-out-observe/
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 05, 2020, 01:52:47 PM
Oh boy!

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on December 05, 2020, 02:02:34 PM
Oh boy!

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
Whut? 

PolitiFACT. . . they MUST only post facts about politics. . . right? 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 05, 2020, 02:33:51 PM
Whut? 

PolitiFACT. . . they MUST only post facts about politics. . . right?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 05, 2020, 02:48:43 PM
Whut? 

PolitiFACT. . . they MUST only post facts about politics. . . right?
They get 4 🤥 🤥 🤥 🤥
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on December 05, 2020, 03:03:59 PM
You know there's plenty of sources and references but feel free to continue the echo chamber.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 05, 2020, 03:04:46 PM
We should totally trust the same people who told us about a burst water "main" at the State Farm Arena counting room when they tell us nothing illegal happened in the unsupervised 2 hours of scanning hidden ballots.

Right.   :wacko:

What we were told:

Quote
A burst pipe has slowed the counting of absentee-by-mail ballots in the Georgia
county that includes Atlanta by four hours — likely ruining any hope that the state’s
election results will be known on Tuesday night.

No ballots were damaged in the mishap in Fulton County, which is home to a tenth
of all Georgians, officials told the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

The water pipe burst happened in a procession center at State Farm Arena in Atlanta,
the report said.

“There was a pipe that burst in the room where we actually had ballots; thank goodness
that none of those ballots were damaged,” county election official  Dwight Brower told
the paper.

https://nypost.com/2020/11/03/burst-pipe-delays-count-of-absentee-ballots-in-georgia/

However, what really happened:

Quote
In response the only public records generated as a result of the alleged “burst pipe” that
halted the counting of ballots in Atlanta (Fulton Co.) were a few text messages.  These
messages were with the Sr. Vice President of the Atlanta Hawks, Geoffrey Stiles, who
called it a “slow leak” that was “contained quickly,” and he said the entire thing was
“highly exaggerated.”
...
No repair orders or work orders or invoices from a plumber associated with this “burst pipe”
were provided. Nothing.

Dzikowski also filed a similar request with the Fulton County Board of Registrations and
Elections which resulted in no records being located per their response.

What really happened on election night in Atlanta and what was the real reason they
stopped counting tens of thousands of absentee votes until the next day?


https://gellerreport.com/2020/11/when-georgia-halted-counting-open-records-request-finds-no-invoices-or-work-orders-reported-on-election-day-water-main-break-in-atlanta-highly-exaggerated-slow-leak-we-contained-it-quickly.html/

These people are lying liars.  If you continue to listen to what they are telling us, you're blind as a f*cking bat!

‘Slow leak’: Text messages cast doubt on Georgia officials’
‘burst pipe’ excuse for pause in counting


https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/slow-leak-text-messages-cast-doubt-on-georgia-officials-burst-pipe-excuse-for-pause-in-counting/news-story/19176f5113512210517c82debe684392
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 05, 2020, 03:16:49 PM
When the SOS in GA tells you they debunked reports of illegal ballot counting soon after the election was done -- weeks before the video was released this week -- either they sat on the video after seeing it and created a story to match the images, or they never saw the video and are now doubling down on the story that is obviously false based on the video AND sworn testimony taken together.

They can say "not suitcases" if they want -- semantics ... quibbling ... irrelevant. 

They can say, "Nobody told them to leave," if they want -- what was said exactly is irrelevant.  They were told the COUNTING HAD STOPPED.  Implication:  "Go home.  No need to stay."

When the facts are obvious, they will argue details.  Just like any lawyer:  When the facts are not on your side, argue the law.  When the law is not on your side, argue the facts.

The counting was illegally performed.  Period.  End of story.

Why were the ballot cases under the table at all?  Plenty of room on top of that table.  Nobody was using it for anything else based on the video.  The table was not set up before that day, so there's really no logical reason for it being there to start with, much less to obscure cases of ballots until after the press and observers had left the building.

Looks like a duck to me.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 05, 2020, 03:34:25 PM
Two polls in Georgia have 53% of all voters want the results overturned. And a super majority of all Georgia voters want the results investigated. That’s all Georgia voters.

It’s interesting to see that 53% of all Georgia voters don’t trust their own politicians. They are seriously not getting their information from CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Fox News, ABC, NBC or CBS. All it took was that fake video to convince the politicians to further investigate and for the people to finally see the truth for themselves. The people of Georgia have spoken!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 05, 2020, 04:21:45 PM
Two polls in Georgia have 53% of all voters want the results overturned. And a super majority of all Georgia voters want the results investigated. That’s all Georgia voters.

It’s interesting to see that 53% of all Georgia voters don’t trust their own politicians. They are seriously not getting their information from CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, Fox News, ABC, NBC or CBS. All it took was that fake video to convince the politicians to further investigate and for the people to finally see the truth for themselves. The people of Georgia have spoken!  :thumbsup:

We live in a time when "if there's no video, it didn't happen."  Critical thinking, deductive reasoning, etc. all all gone because it's become too easy to deceive the public when the media beats a narrative drum so loudly that it drowns out the truth.

Tell a lie enough times, and it becomes the truth.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 05, 2020, 05:26:06 PM
A few tidbits...

Skeptical of Voter Fraud in 2020? Here’s Your Evidence.

https://thomisticthinker.com/skeptical-of-voter-fraud-in-2020-heres-your-evidence/

Has anyone ever told you that “You can’t do it” and “You’re crazy” over and over? Perhaps they’ve told you this so many times, you’ve started to believe it yourself. This is what’s happening in our election today. The media is telling us “There is no evidence. You can’t prove it” and “You are just a crazy conspiracy theorist” over and over again. They’re gaslighting, ridiculing, and dismissing. But we all know something is up. 70% of Republicans suspect foul play; far higher than it has ever been in the history of U.S. elections. Something doesn’t smell right, even if we can’t quite put our finger on it. Can we do better than that though? Can we provide evidence? I will argue that we most certainly can. If you suspect fraud or you are open to the possibility, this article is for you.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 06, 2020, 07:11:06 AM
He's just sayin'...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31obYct7Q7I&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 06, 2020, 11:40:42 AM
I am very proud of AZ today. One judge allowed the Trump lawyers to examine 100 random ballots. What they found is not shocking to me but will be shocking to those who don’t believe there has been any type of ballot tampering. They found one ballot that was fraudulent and one ballot that had been switched from Trump to Biden. And that constitutes a 3% rate of fraudulent votes. The judge has now ordered a larger random sampling of 2,500 ballots to be examined. If the 3% fraudulent votes holds, and if my memory serves me correctly, the 3% constitutes approximately 18,000 fraudulent votes that should be thrown out. Considering Biden leads Trump by 10000 votes currently, this places Trump squarely as the winner of AZ. And rightfully so.

There is also some good news out of Georgia where the voters are demanding that all counts of fraud be investigated. They just opened up 250 investigations into election tampering and ballot tampering. Also, the PA Supreme Court ruled against Lin Wood and his team. So it looks like there might be a SCOTUS decision on the horizon. Assuming they take the case. If they do I think they stand a good chance of a ruling in favor of an invalid election. But that is JMHO.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 06, 2020, 11:54:57 AM
We live in a time when "if there's no video, it didn't happen."  Critical thinking, deductive reasoning, etc. all all gone because it's become too easy to deceive the public when the media beats a narrative drum so loudly that it drowns out the truth.

Tell a lie enough times, and it becomes the truth.
What I like about the results of these polls is it shows that the majority of people are getting their truthful reports from alternate sources. Which is the beauty of the Internet, right? The conservative media can and is being censored and silenced on Twitter and Facebook but the independent sources that don’t rely on those SM platforms cannot be silenced. At least we can still get truthful reporting even if it means not getting it from our old trustworthy sources.

The results of these two polls are not just republican voters but also include democrat voters who feel the same way. As a matter of fact I expect every red blooded American, no matter who they voted for, WANTS all these lawsuits and investigations to occur because we will finally get down to the truth. And we all know it is more important to know the truth of who truly won this election than it is for your favorite candidate to win.
Title: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on December 06, 2020, 12:44:37 PM
https://youtu.be/UbVtOffRYdM

Breaking news in Georgia 12/6/2020 - CPA FIRM results.

Something about a CPA Firm auditing a Dominion machine in Georgia, running equal number of votes for Trump and Biden results in a 26% lead for Biden.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on December 06, 2020, 12:52:16 PM
and Guiliani got the COVID
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: groveler on December 06, 2020, 01:50:35 PM
https://youtu.be/UbVtOffRYdM

Breaking news in Georgia 12/6/2020 - CPA FIRM results.

Something about a CPA Firm auditing a Dominion machine in Georgia, running equal number of votes for Trump and Biden results in a 26% lead for Biden.
Interesting video.
The biggest problem we all have,  is assuming
Democrat Party and RINOs are ethical
and moral people. It doesn't work that way.
People in our government aren't your friends.
I suggest you prepare.



Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 06, 2020, 02:32:46 PM
There is also some good news out of Georgia where the voters are demanding that all counts of fraud be investigated. They just opened up 250 investigations into election tampering and ballot tampering. Also, the PA Supreme Court ruled against Lin Wood and his team. So it looks like there might be a SCOTUS decision on the horizon. Assuming they take the case. If they do I think they stand a good chance of a ruling in favor of an invalid election. But that is JMHO.
Hey Inspector, I know there's a lot to keep track of... the lawsuit that Alito just changed the date for the state response to a day earlier, now Dec. 8, is the PA lawsuit brought by Mike Kelly and Sean Parnell. I suspect we will know about that moving on to SCOTUS by Tuesday afternoon or Wednesday morning... since the electors are scheduled to meet on the 14th. Lin Wood is doing a Georgia lawsuit. Lawsuits lawsuits everywhere!  :shaka:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 06, 2020, 02:40:21 PM
The GA Secretary of State has been pushing hard to get the results for the General certified, because his next order to carry out is to RESET THE MACHINES for the upcoming special election for two Congressional seats.

Reseting the machines would delete all information of the votes, tallies AND SOFTWARE on the machines.  If there are "glitches" that are flipping votes, the evidence would be neatly destroyed.

If the machines have removable media where all that data and software resides, AT A MINIMUM, the media needs to be removed and preserved for future investigation, not destroyed.  Then new media can be loaded for the special election.

Why does it always appear as if politicians find ways to destroy digital evidence (hard drives, cell phones, tablets, backups, ...) when the shit's just about to hit the fan?  All the while, they are saying they don't know how any of it could happen!  Give me a break!!
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 06, 2020, 02:42:16 PM
Hey Inspector, I know there's a lot to keep track of... the lawsuit that Alito just changed the date for the state response to a day earlier, now Dec. 8, is the PA lawsuit brought by Mike Kelly and Sean Parnell. I suspect we will know about that moving on to SCOTUS by Tuesday afternoon or Wednesday morning... since the electors are scheduled to meet on the 14th. Lin Wood is doing a Georgia lawsuit. Lawsuits lawsuits everywhere!  :shaka:
At least someone is able to keep track of them. Thanks!  :shaka:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 06, 2020, 02:49:05 PM
At least someone is able to keep track of them. Thanks!  :shaka:

I just saw the Alito news, too.  He recommended it be moved, but hasn't gotten it done yet, from what that report said.  May be an update since that report.

He's doing this because the 8th is the "safe harbor" day, meaning any challenges to the certified results after that date automatically fall under the laches defense.  Basically you waited too long to act, so your right to bring legal action is forfeit.

Many defendants have been banking on the safe harbor/laches defense to get all claims dismissed, since the original timing put the SCOTUS hearing after that date.  By moving the hearing to the morning of the 8th, the complaints are still alive.

Such drama!   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 06, 2020, 02:53:39 PM
Hey Flapp... according to this article, the docket has been changed.

"Though Alito originally called for response arguments from the Commonwealth to be filed by 4 p.m. on Wednesday, Dec. 9th, the case docket was changed Sunday morning to move that deadline up to Tuesday, Dec. 8, by 9 a.m."

Alito Demands Briefs in Pennsylvania Congressman’s Lawsuit to Flip the Election

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/alito-demands-briefs-in-pennsylvania-congressmans-lawsuit-to-flip-the-election/
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on December 06, 2020, 03:26:07 PM
The GA Secretary of State has been pushing hard to get the results for the General certified, because his next order to carry out is to RESET THE MACHINES for the upcoming special election for two Congressional seats.

Reseting the machines would delete all information of the votes, tallies AND SOFTWARE on the machines.  If there are "glitches" that are flipping votes, the evidence would be neatly destroyed.

If the machines have removable media where all that data and software resides, AT A MINIMUM, the media needs to be removed and preserved for future investigation, not destroyed.  Then new media can be loaded for the special election.

Why does it always appear as if politicians find ways to destroy digital evidence (hard drives, cell phones, tablets, backups, ...) when the shit's just about to hit the fan?  All the while, they are saying they don't know how any of it could happen!  Give me a break!!

nope
"baseless claims"
"disproven conspiracy theories"
nothing to see here...
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: macsak on December 06, 2020, 03:27:58 PM
I just saw the Alito news, too.  He recommended it be moved, but hasn't gotten it done yet, from what that report said.  May be an update since that report.

He's doing this because the 8th is the "safe harbor" day, meaning any challenges to the certified results after that date automatically fall under the laches defense.  Basically you waited too long to act, so your right to bring legal action is forfeit.

Many defendants have been banking on the safe harbor/laches defense to get all claims dismissed, since the original timing put the SCOTUS hearing after that date.  By moving the hearing to the morning of the 8th, the complaints are still alive.

Such drama!   :popcorn:

nope
the cases have been dismissed
no evidence...
(according to our resident lawyer-at-heart)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: ren on December 06, 2020, 05:05:07 PM
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/ratcliffe-trump-biden/2020/12/06/id/1000275/ (https://www.newsmax.com/politics/ratcliffe-trump-biden/2020/12/06/id/1000275/)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: QUIETShooter on December 06, 2020, 05:39:38 PM
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/ratcliffe-trump-biden/2020/12/06/id/1000275/ (https://www.newsmax.com/politics/ratcliffe-trump-biden/2020/12/06/id/1000275/)

The article mentioned that Ratcliffe said that the Trump legal team should be heard in court.  I agree.  If they are denied this I believe it will impact the American people's trust in the electoral system.

He also believes that there is a lot of people who question the integrity of how the elections were run.  Whether they are right is not the issue.  If there was no wrongdoing done in the election then the officials and heads of state where there was speculation would not hesitate to have an investigation so that the American people can be satisfied and the country can move on.

Like he mentioned, the American people deserve this.  There is just too much of them that doubt the way the election was held.  70% of republicans think the election was stolen alone.  A sizable percent of democrats also believe the same thing.  If the heads of state and other leaders continue to take the attitude of no wrongdoing and continue to scoff and belittle all of the allegations (like a lot of them are doing disrespectfully along with the f*ckn MSM), then it will seed mistrust and it will grow.
,
America will become more polarized, weaker, and unorganized.  I guarantee that those 2 yo-yos joe and kamala, if they ever become president and vice president, will lose the respect and cooperation of the American people.

I'm wondering there must be a way to postpone all these election deadlines to certify and electoral college voting until the courts hear and resolve all lawsuits.

What depresses me is that all of these heads of state and election officials cannot see the potential damage to the people and our country's future by refusing to see it this way.

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 06, 2020, 09:30:15 PM
What i dont get is why TF aint the feds investigating? Seems like most is done by private parties. I mean, its not like some nobody in front the gas station  is calling fraud. The leader of the US is saying it.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 07, 2020, 02:58:30 AM
Great video explaining a lot of stuff going on. It debunks the MSM’s debunking of the election fraud tape. It explains why Bill Barr and the DOJ are not too involved. It goes into the deep corruption in Georgia which I think PunaPerson has posted a lot of articles about, etc. It also explains what is happening in the DS and that Obama is sending them a message.

https://rumble.com/vblm1p-ep.-2345b-ds-panics-sends-message-everything-is-about-to-change.html
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 07, 2020, 07:36:02 AM

Here Molly Henimgway of The Federalist debunks the purported debunking of the Georgia video surveillance tape showing containers of ballots being removed and counted after all but 5 poll workers were sent home and the observers were told that ballot counting had ended for the night (and thus left), when in fact the skeleton crew continued counting the under-the-table ballots for at least two hours.


No, The Georgia Vote-Counting Video Was Not ‘Debunked.’ Not Even Close

A Big Tech-backed 'fact' 'checking' outfit claimed to debunk explosive evidence for Republicans' claims of significant election problems in Georgia. It didn't.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/12/07/no-the-georgia-vote-counting-video-was-not-debunked-not-even-close/

Here's the video of the 12 minute testimony by the Trump campaign laying out one version of what is going on in the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keANzinHWUA&feature=emb_logo
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 07, 2020, 09:17:09 AM
Read both articles, watch the six minute video, then robotically mouth the words "There is no evidence. All claims of irregularities or fraud are baseless allegations. Reboot as necessary. Signing off."

A six-minute video sums up 2020’s impossible election paradoxes

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/12/a_sixminute_video_sums_up_2020s_impossible_election_paradoxes.html

Patrick Basham, the founding director of the Democracy Institute, while on the Mark Levin show, gave a remarkably lucid explanation for the peculiarities surrounding the election. He did not focus specifically on the allegations of election fraud. Instead, he explained that traditional markers associated with an incumbent’s almost inevitable victory were all lined up to result in an overwhelming Trump win. That Trump did not, in fact, win simply makes no sense.

Basham first set out his arguments in a November 27 essay at The Spectator, entitled “Reasons why the 2020 presidential election is deeply puzzling: If only cranks find the tabulations strange, put me down as a crank.” [https://spectator.us/reasons-why-the-2020-presidential-election-is-deeply-puzzling/] One of his main points in that article was that Trump’s standing with various groups improved across the board.

(https://i.imgur.com/G1byY1Z.png)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSGRJgvCPg4
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 07, 2020, 10:17:56 AM
Oh boy!


Boy is the right way of putting it!

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 07, 2020, 01:00:15 PM
Boy is the right way of putting it!

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Funny you mentioned that. He is still upset at all the spankings he has gotten here. Not just from me but from others. Obviously he is not mature enough to deal with it and he obviously still harbors anger towards everyone who has exposed his lies, hypocrisy and just plain ignorance. That is why he feels he must continue to retaliate.

But he really got tweaked when Flapp insinuated he could be a girl. Oh Boy, his reaction was priceless and verified he is insecure about his own sexuality. But of course this is JMHO.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 07, 2020, 01:22:57 PM
Funny you mentioned that. He is still upset at all the spankings he has gotten here. Not just from me but from others. Obviously he is not mature enough to deal with it and he obviously still harbors anger towards everyone who has exposed his lies, hypocrisy and just plain ignorance. That is why he feels he must continue to retaliate.

But he really got tweaked when Flapp insinuated he could be a girl. Oh Boy, his reaction was priceless and verified he is insecure about his own sexuality. But of course this is JMHO.  :rofl:
Which gender? Last I heard, people like him said there were 6 different kinds. When I researched in a genetics lab at UH, there were only two.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 07, 2020, 01:28:12 PM

Expert Identifies 200,000 Votes Hi-Jacked from Trump to Biden in Georgia at the Precinct Level

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-expert-identifies-200000-votes-net-hi-jacked-trump-biden-georgia-precinct-level/

Data Expert Edward Solomon analyzed the 2020 election results in Georgia and identified another pattern in the data showing ultimately 200,000 votes transferred from President Trump to Joe Biden at the precinct level.

President Trump was reportedly ahead in the 2020 election in Georgia on Election night by over 100,000 votes.  But within hours his lead was diminished.  It’s likely even when President Trump was hundreds of thousands of votes ahead, he had already had 200,000 votes (net) moved from his totals to Joe Biden.

Then when this was not enough to steal the election for Biden, the Democrats implemented emergency measures in Atlanta, making up a water main break story in an effort to vacate the State Farm Center where absentee ballots were being counted.  Once alone, a few individuals stuck around and pulled suitcases full of ballots out from under a table and added thousands of ballots for Joe Biden to the system.  Eventually the election was stolen for Biden in Georgia by 10,000 votes.

Previous work

For weeks we knew that votes were moved from President Trump to Joe Biden through the voting applications used in the election.  We saw this and reported this at a high level after reporting on numerous glitches and then discovering some work at the Donald website where  a group of individuals uncovered millions of votes transferred at the state level:

Then we were introduced to another Internet genius who took a look at the data reported from election night and using a script he developed, identified hundreds of thousands of votes moving from President Trump to Joe Biden (often times through third party candidates).  These transfers occurred in every state.

The next day we were introduced to Edward Solomon’s work in Pennsylvania where he shows how votes are systematically transferred at the precinct level from President Trump to Joe Biden.  Once a precinct would reach a level where the percent of voters voting in a precinct reached near 100%, the shift would move to other precincts.  Solomon’s initial work was in Pennsylvania.

Expert Solomon again has located votes that were switched from President Trump to Joe Biden.  This time in Georgia.  Using the same approach, the same pattern is identified and ultimately 200,000 votes (net) were moved from President Trump to Joe Biden:

Biden is only ahead in Georgia by 10,000 votes.  There is so much fraud in Georgia that it was criminal for the ‘Republican’ state leaders to sanction the 2020 election and claim Joe Biden won the state.  This is absolutely not true.

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 07, 2020, 01:30:42 PM

Statement From Plaintiff on Antrim County, MI Lawsuit Reveals He Was Able To Get “Damning Evidence” That “Points to Election Tampering”
 
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/statement-plaintiff-antrim-county-mi-lawsuit-reveals-able-get-damning-evidence-points-election-tampering/

Michigan Judge Kevin Elsenheimer ruled on Friday that Antrim County resident William Bailey has the right to a forensic examination of voting machines in Antrim County.

Trump team lawyer Jenna Ellis appeared on Fox & Friends this morning where she explained that a judge granted access to their team of lawyers to perform a forensic examination of 22 Dominion Voting machines.

The full examination of 22 Dominion Voting machines was expected to take about 8 hours. According to Ellis, the results are expected to be released in about 48 hours.

The lawsuit Ellis mentioned was filed by William Bailey on November 23, 2020. Bailey’s lawsuit resulted in Judge Elsenheimer’s ruling for the forensic examination of Dominion Voting Systems.

Bill Bailey, a Central Lake Township resident, has filed a lawsuit against Antrim County for voting fraud in the Nov. 3 general election, saying he has evidence to prove his point (complete statement below).

The Review reports that Bailey, in a statement he released over the weekend, says he believes “voter fraud may have happened” in Antrim county using the “Dominion Voting Systems and other electronic voting equipment.”

Because of the lawsuit, Bailey could not go into detail about evidence he has, but he says he can show voting in the county may have been compromised:

“I do have evidence that you don’t know about that you haven’t seen. I can’t go beyond that. It will be introduced into my case. My attorney’s working on it now. Everybody wants the same thing I want; it doesn’t matter…Democrat, Libertarian, Republican…we’ve got to know we can trust our electoral process. It’s really that simple. I can tell you I have evidence that points to a pretty serious issue.”
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 07, 2020, 01:33:05 PM
“They Didn’t Disqualify a Single Ballot” – MICHIGAN WITNESS Claims He Also saw Systemic Voter Fraud in Detroit (Video)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/didnt-disqualify-single-ballot-michigan-witness-claims-also-saw-systemic-voter-fraud-detroit-video/

Chris Schnorak saw votes being tabulated at the TCF Center in Detroit, the day after election day last month that did not match the poll book of legal voters.

“I saw a ballot for Taniqua Haynes, it comes up in the computer as the wrong ballot number. They mailed her ballot number 5748, but that’s not what she sent back.”

Challenges by Schnorak were ignored. “They refused to put challenges in the electronic log.”

Schnorak says he was only able to get the Detroit officials to log two ballot challenges, “and I had to fight for those.”

The Detroit election officials assigned Haynes’ ballot a new ballot number according to Schnorak and ran Haynes’ ballot through, at counting table 89. “It should have been a spoiled ballot.”

“They didn’t disqualify a single ballot” even though many ballots did not have voters who were on the list of legal voters published by the Secretary of State. “They did some funky monkey stuff.”

Detroit poll workers “circumvented” the process “in order to make ballots go through. This affected THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of ballots that were no good, and were counted, and could not be authenticated as legitimate voters.” Even though the tabulators were not supposed to accept ballots that were flawed, Schnorak saw illegal ballots that went through anyway and ended up in the final vote count from Wayne County.

“If you follow the rules, there’s no cheating.” Schnorak described witnessing a ballot process in Royal Oak, Michigan, the previous day that had only 10 challenged ballots out of 25,755 counted.

He said that the fraud was systemic: “I kept seeing a voter birthdate of 1900. I could tell it wasn’t right. I tried to document it, but so many things were going on and I was flustered. I think they were just creating a record for those people in order to process their ballots. They had a systematic way of doing it, they were good at it. It was coordinated and it was organized.”

There was no way for challengers to see if the voter signatures matched, according to Schnorak. “They would not let us get anywhere near close enough to do that.”

Schnorak also describes the culture of intimidation against GOP Poll Challengers at the TCF Center, and his statements match those from many others, suggesting there was an active campaign of voter intimidation and harassment of challengers in order to remove Republicans from the room using social pressure and power.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on December 07, 2020, 01:41:15 PM
I believe so far no trump lawsuits have been won,  most have been dismissed or dropped.  With such "evidence" everywhere I wonder why....what possible logical reasoning could there be? 

Anyone have any evidence of anything progressing in court?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 07, 2020, 01:43:00 PM
Hey Punaperson, thanks for posting all of this evidence. It’s starting to flow out like water out of a spigot. I see GA and PA are in disarray. And AZ and NV are not far behind. Still wanting to see more out of MI and WI but I’ll wait. I’m patient. In the meantime I try and read everything you post but there is so much of it that I can’t take it all in and keep track of it all. So thanks for keeping up and keeping track of everything. And please correct me if I’m wrong about something. I assume I’ll get some facts wrong again. :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 07, 2020, 01:44:38 PM
And he still doesn’t get it...

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 07, 2020, 01:52:58 PM
As they say, there's no evidence .... of a properly run election!

Georgia County Can’t Find Chain of Custody Records for Absentee Ballots...

or if they even exist!!

https://gellerreport.com/2020/12/georgia-county-cant-find-chain-of-custody-records-for-absentee-ballots-exist.html/

The regular MSM suspects are eerily quiet.  Whenever Biden farts, they report on the lovely fragrance.  But, when more evidence that the election was shady comes out -- *crickets*.

Without a chain of custody form, which is required by law, there's no way to tell who handled the ballots nor whether the seal numbers on the ballot boxes even match the one's used and removed.

In all my days of dealing with numbered tags and seals -- mostly in the military -- whenever something is sealed (like classified material being transported), the seal number is recorded on a transfer record.  The next person in the chain visually inspects the seal to make sure it's undamaged then signs the next line on the form/record as receiving the container with the proper seal -- intact with the correct number. 

If the seal is removed to inspect and/or inventory the contents, the recipient and courier both record that the seal was removed, the broken seal is retained in a clear plastic bag that's kept with the form (keeping it inside the container would be stupid), and the new seal number is recorded on the form when the container is resealed.   The custody form is managed separate and apart from the container, so if the container is tampered with or missing, the chain of custody record is not also changed or missing.

Basically, there is a procedure.  If the procedure is ignored or bypassed, the chain of custody cannot be verified.  Most times, the last person to have verifiable custody is hung out to dry if they failed to ensure the chain remained unbroken.

There's no way to recreate the form, as anyone who did anything wrong would be as likely to lie about their recollection. 

Either they find the actual form, or they decertify Dekalb County.   No other options IMHO.

Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on December 07, 2020, 02:01:22 PM
And he still doesn’t get it...

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9mf3Bypyk8

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 07, 2020, 02:14:21 PM
:rofl:
Shhhhhhhh!!! Don’t tell him that! I want him to keep thinking that keeping score is important! It makes him feel better when he thinks he won!!!  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on December 07, 2020, 02:21:23 PM
Shhhhhhhh!!! Don’t tell him that! I want him to keep thinking that keeping score is important! It makes him feel better when he thinks he won!!!  :rofl:
He already believes he wins at everything.  Even when he bets, but then retracts.  He wins even then. . .
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: bass monkey on December 07, 2020, 04:49:24 PM
And he still doesn’t get it...

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

I was just thinking, what will happen when everyone stops responding to him?
Will he just make a new account? Keep talking to himself thinking he's winning?  Mac & Drck will keep him entertained?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on December 07, 2020, 05:00:46 PM
I was just thinking, what will happen when everyone stops responding to him?
Will he just make a new account? Keep talking to himself thinking he's winning?  Mac & Drck will keep him entertained?
Haha, guilty.  I've been mostly ignoring him.  Well, trying to. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 07, 2020, 05:08:44 PM
I was just thinking, what will happen when everyone stops responding to him?
Will he just make a new account? Keep talking to himself thinking he's winning?  Mac & Drck will keep him entertained?
You may be right. He’s just looking for attention.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 07, 2020, 07:03:30 PM
I believe so far no trump lawsuits have been won,  most have been dismissed or dropped.  With such "evidence" everywhere I wonder why....what possible logical reasoning could there be? 

Anyone have any evidence of anything progressing in court?
Not us. We're conspiracy theorists, remember!

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Flapp_Jackson on December 07, 2020, 07:09:48 PM
Good synopsis of PA election fraud.

Yes, FRAUD!

https://youtu.be/burQI9vFIMs
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Jl808 on December 07, 2020, 07:35:06 PM
OAN's Chanel Rion on massive Georgia voting fraud!
Dominion 'Vote Flip': Fact vs Fiction in Ware County, GA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-wBJsqMVuI
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on December 07, 2020, 07:47:43 PM
I was just thinking, what will happen when everyone stops responding to him?
Will he just make a new account? Keep talking to himself thinking he's winning?  Mac & Drck will keep him entertained?

I'm not flapp I don't make new accounts.  I will post regardless I am here to try bring some balance to the lurkers and the forum in general.  Not all 2a supporters are conservatives clones.  If I have to be the independent voice so be it. 
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: robtmc on December 07, 2020, 07:57:32 PM
You may be right. He’s just looking for attention.  :rofl:
Y'all taking about that little pissant?

Or one of the other blocked liberals?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: changemyoil66 on December 07, 2020, 08:36:15 PM
Judges are in on it. How many are barry appointees?

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 07, 2020, 09:07:01 PM
I believe so far no trump lawsuits have been won,  most have been dismissed or dropped.  With such "evidence" everywhere I wonder why....what possible logical reasoning could there be? 

Anyone have any evidence of anything progressing in court?
Was that your great great great great grandfather who quipped, "I believe so far no Dred Scott lawsuits have been won,  most have been dismissed or dropped.  With such "evidence" everywhere I wonder why....what possible logical reasoning could there be?  Anyone have any evidence of anything progressing in court?"
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 07, 2020, 10:17:22 PM
Texas files election lawsuit against Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin at Supreme Court…

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/breaking-texas-files-election-lawsuit-against-georgia-michigan-pennsylvania-and-wisconsin-at-supreme-court/

The State of Texas filed a lawsuit directly with the U.S. Supreme Court shortly before midnight on Monday challenging the election procedures in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin on the grounds that they violate the Constitution.

Texas argues that these states violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because they made changes to voting rules and procedures through the courts or through executive actions, but not through the state legislatures. Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause. Finally, Texas argues that there were “voting irregularities” in these states as a result of the above.

Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors.

“Certain officials in the Defendant States presented the pandemic as the justification for ignoring state laws regarding absentee and mail-in voting. The Defendant States flooded their citizenry with tens of millions of ballot applications and ballots in derogation of statutory controls as to how they are lawfully received, evaluated, and counted. Whether well intentioned or not, these unconstitutional acts had the same uniform effect—they made the 2020 election less secure in the Defendant States. Those changes are inconsistent with relevant state laws and were made by non-legislative entities, without any consent by the state legislatures. The acts of these officials thus directly violated the Constitution.”

“This case presents a question of law: Did the Defendant States violate the Electors Clause by taking non-legislative actions to change the election rules that would govern the appointment of presidential electors? These non-legislative changes to the Defendant States’ election laws facilitated the casting and counting of ballots in violation of state law, which, in turn, violated the Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens’ vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution.”
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 07, 2020, 10:35:08 PM

Sidney Powell — ‘We should have at least 3 states before the Supreme Court by the end of the week’…

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/sidney-powell-we-should-have-at-least-3-states-before-the-supreme-court-by-the-end-of-the-week/

Sidney Powell with Greg Kelly earlier tonight

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFNCCnpejdQ&feature=emb_logo

Sidney discusses next steps after a judge dismissed the Kraken case earlier today — ‘There should be at least 3 states before the Supreme Court with enough electoral votes to change the outcome before the end of the week.’
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 08, 2020, 02:37:35 AM
Finally seeing some traction towards the end goal. I am glad to see Texas stepping up and Sidney Powell getting to SCOTUS is a good thing. Slowly grinding our way to the top.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 08, 2020, 04:19:48 AM
Senator Ted Cruz agreed to argue the election tampering case against PA if SCOTUS takes the case. I think he is articulate enough to argue a case in front of SCOTUS. I’m not sure if he has any experience in front of SCOTUS however. Maybe someone from the ACLJ will assist him?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: omnigun on December 08, 2020, 06:19:10 AM
Judges are in on it. How many are barry appointees?

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Some but there are also Bush and even Trumps own appointments that voted against or to dismiss...
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 08, 2020, 07:17:20 AM
Senator Ted Cruz agreed to argue the election tampering case against PA if SCOTUS takes the case. I think he is articulate enough to argue a case in front of SCOTUS. I’m not sure if he has any experience in front of SCOTUS however. Maybe someone from the ACLJ will assist him?
Cruz also clerked for Chief Justice William Rehnquist. The article below has the oral arguments for each of the cases he argued at SCOTUS.

In Nine Trips to Supreme Court, Ted Cruz Saw Mixed Results

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/01/24/ted-cruz-supreme-court-cases/

U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz belongs to an elite club of lawyers who have repeatedly argued before the U.S. Supreme Court. A closer look at the nine times the Texan argued before the justices shows wins and losses as he challenged legal limits.

Before he was a U.S. senator or a candidate for president, Ted Cruz argued before the U.S. Supreme Court nine times, putting the Texas Republican in an exclusive club.

“Most lawyers in America will never argue in front of the Supreme Court, much less do it nine times,” said Paul Collins, director of legal studies at the University of Massachusetts Amherst.

For all but one of his nine cases before the nation’s highest court, Cruz represented the state of Texas as its solicitor general. It was a role that allowed him to challenge the legal limits of hot-button issues such as the Voting Rights Act and states’ rights.

Over nine trips to the Supreme Court, Cruz clearly lost four cases and won two. The other three rulings were less clear-cut.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on December 08, 2020, 08:00:13 AM
Senator Ted Cruz agreed to argue the election tampering case against PA if SCOTUS takes the case. I think he is articulate enough to argue a case in front of SCOTUS. I’m not sure if he has any experience in front of SCOTUS however. Maybe someone from the ACLJ will assist him?

Quote
The plaintiffs argue that the state does not have grounds to allow non-absentee vote-by-mail without a constitutional amendment. Nearly 30 Republican members of the state legislature have signed a document in amicus with Kelly and Parnell's case.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ted-cruz-pennsylvania-election-case-supreme-court

That is what I noted from the subject being brought up numerous times starting the day after the election, but only now seems to be getting coverage by the "larger" media outlets.  It was pretty much blackout on the topic other than going through not as main stream sources.  I am NOT saying that automatically state credibility, just it doesn't take a Jenius to think "this is too important an issue to not be in the national spotlight".  Yet, the stupid story of college admissions scandals and two has beens going to jail for it is front and center.  Who gives a shit about those has beens? 

To me, that was the point of the rush for TV and sports to return.  To get the attention off of more significant issues.  Americans, and people in general love distractions and there are many who thrive on giving that to us.  I'm not all "everything is a false" flag tinfoil conspiracist, but. . .
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 08, 2020, 09:12:59 AM


Republicans Who Think Election Recount Is Still Ongoing Found Deep In Jungle
December 8th, 2020

(https://i.imgur.com/MCsHqM4.png?1)

U.S.—With the 2020 election certified in all the contentious states, most weak-willed Republican squishes have resigned themselves to the fact that Joe Biden has successfully stolen the election and that it’s time to focus on the Georgia runoff races and holding the Senate. Still, there are some remote areas of the country that word of surrender has not reached. In these American jungles, Trump loyalists continue their guerrilla campaign, thinking that a recount is still ongoing and that the election results are still in doubt.

“We’ve just got to keep our eyes open for illegal ballots,” said MAGA hat-wearing patriot Jon Marsh, hiding deep in the bushes, his only contact with the outside world being Charlie Kirk’s newsletter. “Any day now, Georgia is going to get put into Trump’s column. And then Pennsylvania. And then I guess either Arizona or Michigan. Maybe both. Landslide!”

Some Republican emissaries have been sent to try to reach these holdouts. Bill Kristol ventured deep into one jungle to whine to them that it was over and that they needed to give up and embrace Biden. He was later found wedgied with a note taped to his shirt that said, “As soon as Sidney Powell presents all her evidence, you’ll look like a fool!”

It’s unclear if any message of the election’s end will ever be able to reach these Republicans, especially with their ringleader, President Trump, hiding out in the jungle with them. He hasn’t been seen in some time, though his last tweet read, “It’s all in the bag. Definitely got this. Holding a rally soon. And make sure to donate!”
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 08, 2020, 11:34:58 AM
Michigan House Chairman Tells Dominion CEO to Appear or Be Subpoenaed

https://www.theepochtimes.com/michigan-house-chairman-tells-dominion-ceo-to-appear-or-be-subpoenaed_3609633.html?utm_source=news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-12-08-3

A Michigan lawmaker leading the investigation into the 2020 election threatened Dominion Voting Systems CEO with a subpoena if he doesn’t appear before his committee voluntarily.

State Rep. Matt Hall, a Republican who chairs the Michigan House Oversight Committee, said in a Dec. 7 letter obtained by The Epoch Times that he sent a missive last month asking Dominion CEO John Poulos to testify before the committee.

“I have not received an answer to my request. I am writing again to request your appearance before the House Oversight Committee so that we can further investigate Dominion’s role in the election,” Hall wrote to Poulos in the new letter.

The representative said there have been a number of claims and accusations regarding Dominion’s software and the results of the election and that Poulos could help lawmakers and voters better understand the election software.

If Poulos cannot make it in person, testimony via Zoom would serve.

“If Dominion chooses to ignore this second request to come before the committee I am prepared to seek legislative subpoena power to compel your appearance before the House Oversight Committee,” Hall wrote. “I am hopeful that it would not come to this.”

Dominion didn’t respond to a request for comment.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: aletheuo137 on December 08, 2020, 11:37:14 AM
Michigan House Chairman Tells Dominion CEO to Appear or Be Subpoenaed

https://www.theepochtimes.com/michigan-house-chairman-tells-dominion-ceo-to-appear-or-be-subpoenaed_3609633.html?utm_source=news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-12-08-3

A Michigan lawmaker leading the investigation into the 2020 election threatened Dominion Voting Systems CEO with a subpoena if he doesn’t appear before his committee voluntarily.

State Rep. Matt Hall, a Republican who chairs the Michigan House Oversight Committee, said in a Dec. 7 letter obtained by The Epoch Times that he sent a missive last month asking Dominion CEO John Poulos to testify before the committee.

“I have not received an answer to my request. I am writing again to request your appearance before the House Oversight Committee so that we can further investigate Dominion’s role in the election,” Hall wrote to Poulos in the new letter.

The representative said there have been a number of claims and accusations regarding Dominion’s software and the results of the election and that Poulos could help lawmakers and voters better understand the election software.

If Poulos cannot make it in person, testimony via Zoom would serve.

“If Dominion chooses to ignore this second request to come before the committee I am prepared to seek legislative subpoena power to compel your appearance before the House Oversight Committee,” Hall wrote. “I am hopeful that it would not come to this.”

Dominion didn’t respond to a request for comment.
You know the Dems lost the election when they start leaving the country.

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Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on December 08, 2020, 11:38:30 AM
You know the Dems lost the election when they start leaving the country.

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You mean the ones that threatened to leave in 2016-2017?  Whoopie et al?

Bye Felcia
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: punaperson on December 08, 2020, 11:45:28 AM
There are some extant records and reports that some of these drop box ballots were returned to the tabulation centers as much as 24 hours after (supposedly) being picked up. The law requires that they be immediately taken to the vote tabulation center. Also, many of the mandated video security systems were solar powered with no battery storage system, so there is no video of near/after dark deposits. The boxes and security systems in the contested swing state counties and cities were largely funded by Zuckerberg. Nothing to see here.

Here is Fulton county giving the finger to Trump and all citizens who want all legal votes to count, and no illegal votes to count.

(https://i.imgur.com/995DdQx.png?1)
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: drck1000 on December 08, 2020, 11:56:07 AM
Lousiana joining Texas. Florida next?
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on December 08, 2020, 12:08:36 PM
Y'all taking about that little pissant?

Or one of the other blocked liberals?
The Pissant.
Title: Re: Election Fraud Evidence Thread
Post by: Inspector on Decemb