Bidens Speech 4-28-21 (Read 7744 times)

Kuleana

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #40 on: April 30, 2021, 10:08:48 AM »
Taiwan was formed after a civil war.  They believe themselves to be independent.  Enough to break off from China.
Stop embarrassing your lack of Chinese history.

The KMT fled to Taiwan after loosing the Chinese Civil War.  At the time of KMT's defeat, Taipei became the de-facto capital, of the officially recognized government of CHINA, not an independent Taiwan.  The government in Beijing was later recognized, as the official government of China, once the rest of the World realized that the cause of KMT was over.  Throughout the rest of the 20th century, the KMT still maintained that they were the rightful government of CHINA.

The pipedreams, of an independent Taiwan, was created and primarily fueled, by US imperial policy, in the region to contain China.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Kuleana

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2021, 10:14:48 AM »
America has paid reparations to those effected by its past,
We Hawaiians don't want reparations.  We want de-occupation, from the US empire.



China is currently engaging in the activities in the present.
Are you getting that information, from the same news source that spoke of Saddam's nuclear weapons or from the CIA Factbook?



As for the banking system, I have no issue with them.
Well, I guess you just showed where your true loyalty lies.

omnigun

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2021, 10:24:29 AM »
Stop embarrassing your lack of Chinese history.

The KMT fled to Taiwan after loosing the Chinese Civil War.  At the time of KMT's defeat, Taipei became the de-facto capital, of the officially recognized government of CHINA, not an independent Taiwan.  The government in Beijing was later recognized, as the official government of China, once the rest of the World realized that the cause of KMT was over.  Throughout the rest of the 20th century, the KMT still maintained that they were the rightful government of CHINA.

The pipedreams, of an independent Taiwan, was created and primarily fueled, by US imperial policy, in the region to contain China.  Nothing more, nothing less.

All they need to do is officially declare themselves independent again and they will be.  But that doesn't change the fact they are defacto independent.  Similar to getting married vs BF/GF long term with mortgages and kids.

Kuleana

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2021, 10:35:14 AM »
All they need to do is officially declare themselves independent again and they will be.  But that doesn't change the fact they are defacto independent.  Similar to getting married vs BF/GF long term with mortgages and kids.
If that was all they needed, why did they not do so already?

Could it be that the US empire themselves, do not want Taiwan to be independent, for fear they loose their bargaining chip, in China-US business negotiations?

omnigun

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2021, 10:46:55 AM »
If that was all they needed, why did they not do so already?

Could it be that the US empire themselves, do not want Taiwan to be independent, for fear they loose their bargaining chip, in China-US business negotiations?

No if they did China would go to war with them to officially take them back.  It's a pride thing. 

Kuleana

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #45 on: April 30, 2021, 10:50:42 AM »
No if they did China would go to war with them to officially take them back.  It's a pride thing.
Quit reading, from the US empire's CIA playbook, and placating and stirring-up emotions, into your flawed arguments.

The reunification of Taiwan with the Chinese Mainland is purely an internal legal matter.

ren

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #46 on: April 30, 2021, 11:27:23 AM »
From Biden’s speech to Congress:
This is what he said, according to a New York Times transcript of the president’s remarks: "The United States accounts, as all of you know, for less than 15 percent of carbon emissions. The rest of the world accounts for 85 percent. That’s why I kept my commitment to rejoin the Paris Accord, because if we do everything perfectly, it’s not going to matter."
Deeds Not Words

changemyoil66

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2021, 11:33:03 AM »
From Biden’s speech to Congress:
This is what he said, according to a New York Times transcript of the president’s remarks: "The United States accounts, as all of you know, for less than 15 percent of carbon emissions. The rest of the world accounts for 85 percent. That’s why I kept my commitment to rejoin the Paris Accord, because if we do everything perfectly, it’s not going to matter."


I thought the US was lower than that.  But if we're at 15%, then China must be at 40 and India at 30.  So that doesn't leave much for everybody else.

hvybarrels

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2021, 12:03:49 PM »
The reunification of Taiwan with the Chinese Mainland is purely an internal legal matter.

It is already a foregone conclusion. Their new generation of hypersonic missiles makes our bases in the area sitting ducks. I would be very worried if I knew someone stationed on a base in Okinawa. China could smoke that whole place in seconds and there is nothing we could do about it besides nukes (game over for everyone). The USA no longer has enough resources for conventional warfare. Our military is handicapped by bad tech that was designed to send money to Congressional districts, not fight wars. Now we are even losing to small countries with no conventional military. We outsourced our industrial base and 34% of the population currently relies on government spending for survival, and that will not last once the dollar gets replaced as the world reserve currency.

Stop these fever dreams of empire while there is still time to consolidate what we have left and learn live within our means. Pushing forward means the end of the Republic.



“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

omnigun

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #49 on: April 30, 2021, 12:44:53 PM »
It is already a foregone conclusion. Their new generation of hypersonic missiles makes our bases in the area sitting ducks. I would be very worried if I knew someone stationed on a base in Okinawa. China could smoke that whole place in seconds and there is nothing we could do about it besides nukes (game over for everyone). The USA no longer has enough resources for conventional warfare. Our military is handicapped by bad tech that was designed to send money to Congressional districts, not fight wars. Now we are even losing to small countries with no conventional military. We outsourced our industrial base and 34% of the population currently relies on government spending for survival, and that will not last once the dollar gets replaced as the world reserve currency.

Stop these fever dreams of empire while there is still time to consolidate what we have left and learn live within our means. Pushing forward means the end of the Republic.



We have the same weapons if not better, we can destroy their bases too.  Didn't sports teach you to never give up.  Or parents to never submit to a bully?

Kuleana

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2021, 12:51:58 PM »
We have the same weapons if not better, we can destroy their bases too.  Didn't sports teach you to never give up.  Or parents to never submit to a bully?
What bully are you referring?

The only real bully on this planet is the US empire and its delusional ambitions.

hvybarrels

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2021, 01:14:54 PM »
The only real bully on this planet is the US empire and its delusional ambitions.

There are plenty of bullies, but some are patient and play the long game while others arm themselves with "exceptionalism" and F35 Penguins

“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

hvybarrels

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2021, 01:21:54 PM »
We may have lost to Afghanistan but we definitely have what it takes to beat Mainland China


“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

omnigun

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #53 on: April 30, 2021, 02:08:11 PM »
We may have lost to Afghanistan but we definitely have what it takes to beat Mainland China



We have no focus in Afghanistan, against an enemy with no uniform.  Much different than a standing army or navy.  Destroy all of china's equipment and you win.  You will never win a land war.

Glasser

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #54 on: April 30, 2021, 07:00:59 PM »
Yeeeesh, the intermediate school world history lesson is pretty sad. There is a whole giant internet with parts of it that big tech havent censored yet with real people with actual knowledge about the history and politics of other countries. Maybe start learning something about the world instead of puking up wikipedia level gloss over B.S., Arm Chair Generals are more pathetic than Monday Morning Quarterbacks or Internet lawyers.

ren

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #55 on: April 30, 2021, 08:27:45 PM »
a person going through boot camp in any of the services has more cred than at least one person posting here...
Deeds Not Words

hvybarrels

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #56 on: May 01, 2021, 12:09:56 AM »
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So what will China do about Taiwan? China could take it right now, if it wanted to pay the price. Everyone knows that, though many fake-news sites have responded with childish, ridiculous gung-ho stories about how “Taiwan Could Win.”

But will China invade? No. Not right now anyway. It doesn’t need to. The Chinese elite has its own constituencies, like all other polities (including “totalitarian” ones), and has to answer to them as circumstances change.

So far China has been extraordinarily patient, a lot more patient than we’d be if China was promising to fight to the death for, say, Long Island. But that can change. Because, as I never tire of repeating, the enemy of the moment has constituencies too. And has to answer to them.

So what happens if the US succeeds in hamstringing China’s economy? Welp, what’s the most reliable distraction a gov’t can find when it wants to unite a hard-pressed population against some distant enemy?

That’s when China might actually do something about Taiwan. Oh, not the silly 20th c. style invasion the USN dreams about. That’s nonsense. The PLA has contingency planners too, and they won’t want to play those retro games. There’s a whole new military technology and an evolving strategy to optimize it, and it includes dozens of ways to neutralize carrier battle groups. Planning that campaign is probably the most requested assignment among ambitious PLA planners.

And that’s how this looks, when you stare coldly: If our military and media elites are very lucky, China will zoom ahead and ignore the endless woofing. But if US/NATO somehow succeed in crippling China’s economy, then, as Mao might put it, the flabby Golden Retriever woofing behind its picket fence at the pit bull might find that the yard gate is open.

http://exiledonline.com/the-war-nerd-taiwan-the-thucydides-trapper-who-cried-woof/
“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”

Kuleana

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #57 on: May 01, 2021, 08:44:21 AM »
We have no focus in Afghanistan, against an enemy with no uniform.  Much different than a standing army or navy.  Destroy all of china's equipment and you win.  You will never win a land war.
You think a war between two nuclear armed peers will stay conventional?

ren

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #58 on: May 01, 2021, 09:13:35 AM »
You think a war between two nuclear armed peers will stay conventional?

Why ask a preschooler on foreign policy? You'd get a better response talking at a drive thru McD's
Deeds Not Words

hvybarrels

Re: Bidens Speech 4-28-21
« Reply #59 on: May 01, 2021, 10:05:48 AM »
Hiring candidates who lack critical thinking skills and empathy has was common long before Snowden shook up the ant farm, but now with Biden's Woke Purge of the military and intelligence agencies our institutions are are almost exclusively stocked with low-level thinkers who are just bright enough to follow orders but never question them. Are they clever and dangerous? Absolutely. Davos needs dedicated men just smart enough to operate the machines that will impose Great Reset Communism on the West. It's not like Soros will kick in your door or Bill Gates will monitor your movements themselves.

On the positive side Vasili Arkhipov was able to slip through the ranks in similar political climate in the Soviet Union. We all owe our very existence to the officers who screwed up and promoted him. 

“Wars happen when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolutions happen when you figure it out for yourselves.”